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Quote from: scrybe on November 05, 2012, 11:19:04 PM

Quote from: Unacceptable on November 05, 2012, 10:27:32 PM

Well,I have to say I'm very dissapointed in Cablepair,running to the mods & crying Sad

I have to hand it to Inaba for "fighting" back & he held his tongue as far as I'm concerned Cool

Won't be buying any bASIC's either,I'll stick with BFL Grin

His thread was turning over a ton of pages about several topics, some troll, some real.

Tom got big enough that just having a single thread was not working (mods came, but only very late in the 100+ page point)

He's put up a physical location and is running a permanent business, so it makes sense to have his own forums.

Inaba was pretty inappropriate for encouraging and continuing to engage the trolls, but the overall thread had become too unwieldy about 30 pages ago, so it's not unexpected that it was continuing downhill.

I'm buying from both because I'm not going to put all my eggs all in one basket, one or both may get a lot of follow-on business from me, or none by their behavior in public. Inaba has not always helped BFL's cause with me, but it's more about how the engagement happens rather than the content that is the issue. Some of the downright name-calling was pretty ridiculous and Inaba participated heavily.

So feel free to be critical of Tom's actions, but I certainly would uphold his motivations and would encourage folks to hold both parties accountable for how they treat others.

Thats great that he finally got his own forum,really is.

So standing up for yourself/company is trolling,whatever..................

Well,BFL has been getting shit on since the get go,did Inaba/BFL_Josh go crying to the mods,not that I know of...............they probably wouldn't of helped any how Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Unacceptable on November 05, 2012, 10:27:32 PM

Well,I have to say I'm very dissapointed in Cablepair,running to the mods & crying Sad

I have to hand it to Inaba for "fighting" back & he held his tongue as far as I'm concerned Cool

Won't be buying any bASIC's either,I'll stick with BFL Grin

His thread was turning over a ton of pages about several topics, some troll, some real.

Tom got big enough that just having a single thread was not working (mods came, but only very late in the 100+ page point)

He's put up a physical location and is running a permanent business, so it makes sense to have his own forums.

Inaba was pretty inappropriate for encouraging and continuing to engage the trolls, but the overall thread had become too unwieldy about 30 pages ago, so it's not unexpected that it was continuing downhill.

I'm buying from both because I'm not going to put all my eggs all in one basket, one or both may get a lot of follow-on business from me, or none by their behavior in public. Inaba has not always helped BFL's cause with me, but it's more about how the engagement happens rather than the content that is the issue. Some of the downright name-calling was pretty ridiculous and Inaba participated heavily.

So feel free to be critical of Tom's actions, but I certainly would uphold his motivations and would encourage folks to hold both parties accountable for how they treat others.

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Quote from: BitCoiner2012 on November 05, 2012, 04:41:47 PM

Quote from: AndrewBUD on November 05, 2012, 04:38:43 PM

Right but when you pre order a videogame it's already created/packaged/shipped to distributors until release day.

None of this Monthly update of a new ship date..... or when they might be able to assemble their first unit....... 1 small hiccup could cause additional months of waiting.

Not necessarily true regarding the games.

Duke Nukem Forever + GameStop.
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/05/still-got-your-duke-nukem-receipt-from-1997/

Q.E.D

WARNING: Quit whining, or your miner will be karmicly transformed into a copy of Daikatana. Wink

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Well,I have to say I'm very dissapointed in Cablepair,running to the mods & crying Sad

I have to hand it to Inaba for "fighting" back & he held his tongue as far as I'm concerned Cool

Won't be buying any bASIC's either,I'll stick with BFL Grin

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Quote from: Inaba on November 05, 2012, 09:46:42 PM

Tom. Tom doesn't like a good rant. I can say this with some authority.

+1
rofl

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Quote from: Badonkadonk on November 05, 2012, 06:18:26 PM

who doesnt like a good rant Grin

Tom. Tom doesn't like a good rant. I can say this with some authority.

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who doesnt like a good rant Grin

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Quote from: Badonkadonk on November 05, 2012, 07:16:49 AM

why do pepople that have not invested a single friggin dime in something, bother to scream out over and over and over and over again
that its a scam or its vaporware or its gonna be delayed 1000000000 years! "your never gonna see your money again!" etcetcetc

if you have nothing invested in this, and you see others happily investing, grown sound people that can think for them selfs,
why tha f*ck do you bother?

god some people are so friggin annoying.....
its allmost as annoying as the freaks trying to push there god damn religion on others... just give it up allready!

I did not start this thread and i am on topic.
I enjoyed your rant though. Nothing like a good rant.
I am a miner and what is going on concerns me. In the end i will buy from the company that seems the best.

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Quote from: AndrewBUD on November 05, 2012, 04:38:43 PM

Right but when you pre order a videogame it's already created/packaged/shipped to distributors until release day.

None of this Monthly update of a new ship date..... or when they might be able to assemble their first unit....... 1 small hiccup could cause additional months of waiting.

Not necessarily true regarding the games.

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Right but when you pre order a videogame it's already created/packaged/shipped to distributors until release day.

None of this Monthly update of a new ship date..... or when they might be able to assemble their first unit....... 1 small hiccup could cause additional months of waiting.

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Quote from: Aseras on November 05, 2012, 12:52:18 PM

Quote from: Meatball on November 04, 2012, 08:10:35 PM

Quote from: fcmatt on November 04, 2012, 04:53:21 PM

I am not in the habit of giving six plus month loans interest free.

Anyway... I was not the first to gpu mine and i still did just fine. Asic will be no different.

It was a serious question though. Many did calcs based on getting in on 50 btc reward time frame which is quickly slipping away. Now it seems we have 25 block reward and price that is flat for future asic miners. Getting hardware first is becoming uber critcal for quick roi. If all ship in same time frame you essentially swapped gpu for asic with no quick roi as diff will adjust oh so fast instead of slower ramp up due to just bfl hardware coming first.

Tons of people preorder MMO's and video games all the time way before release date, so it's not unheard of for that to happen. As for RoI, anyone that calculated RoI and assumed the 50 BTC rewards for anything more than 1 difficulty level is an idjit. All my RoI calculations were done assuming 25x to 50x difficulty increase/reward drop calculations.

When you preorder a video game or pretty much anything they don't charge you until it ships.They may charge a initial deposit of a couple dollars are most.

Yea, but you are not just preorder some fun like its with videogames. You preorder non existing product, which needs serious investment to be made. Besides that, you are gonna make some coins too.

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Quote from: Meatball on November 04, 2012, 08:10:35 PM

Quote from: fcmatt on November 04, 2012, 04:53:21 PM

I am not in the habit of giving six plus month loans interest free.

Anyway... I was not the first to gpu mine and i still did just fine. Asic will be no different.

It was a serious question though. Many did calcs based on getting in on 50 btc reward time frame which is quickly slipping away. Now it seems we have 25 block reward and price that is flat for future asic miners. Getting hardware first is becoming uber critcal for quick roi. If all ship in same time frame you essentially swapped gpu for asic with no quick roi as diff will adjust oh so fast instead of slower ramp up due to just bfl hardware coming first.

Tons of people preorder MMO's and video games all the time way before release date, so it's not unheard of for that to happen. As for RoI, anyone that calculated RoI and assumed the 50 BTC rewards for anything more than 1 difficulty level is an idjit. All my RoI calculations were done assuming 25x to 50x difficulty increase/reward drop calculations.

When you preorder a video game or pretty much anything they don't charge you until it ships.They may charge a initial deposit of a couple dollars are most.

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lol, you guys are hilarious. I've only read the last couple entries, but I imagine its all troll/counter-troll all the way up.

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that attitude? what attitude?
all i did was order myself a few products that i acctualy think will some day show up on my door step...
and you didnt,
so why tha hell do you even bother? for "making fun of pepole"?
you dont see me trolling your ass when you preorder your crap do you?

the only person with attitude here would be you and others like you, that just doesnt know how to stop trolling...
every day theres a new thread about this shit...

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Quote from: Badonkadonk on November 05, 2012, 07:16:49 AM

why do pepople that have not invested a single friggin dime in something, bother to scream out over and over and over and over again
that its a scam or its vaporware or its gonna be delayed 1000000000 years! "your never gonna see your money again!" etcetcetc

if you have nothing invested in this, and you see others happily investing, grown sound people that can think for them selfs,
why tha f*ck do you bother?

god some people are so friggin annoying.....
its allmost as annoying as the freaks trying to push there god damn religion on others... just give it up allready!

No we are making fun of you.

You see that attitude, "it is this way, and I am certain of it" usually comes from those who support BFL & Co. You are right it's like a religion, and we are the anti-theists making fun of you theists.

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why do pepople that have not invested a single friggin dime in something, bother to scream out over and over and over and over again
that its a scam or its vaporware or its gonna be delayed 1000000000 years! "your never gonna see your money again!" etcetcetc

if you have nothing invested in this, and you see others happily investing, grown sound people that can think for them selfs,
why tha f*ck do you bother?

god some people are so friggin annoying.....
its allmost as annoying as the freaks trying to push there god damn religion on others... just give it up allready!

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Trust me, these default swaps will limit the risks

Quote from: fcmatt on November 04, 2012, 08:27:59 PM

That is true about vid games. But tossing around 50 bucks is very different then 1000s to a small biz that could be gone tomorrow if some major screw up takes place. I secured a very in demand car a few years back by putting down a very small fee to hold my spot that was non refundable. Why do these companies not do that? Instead they want it all up front which worried me enough not to get involved.

Then I guess you have nothing to worry about.

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Quote from: Meatball on November 04, 2012, 08:10:35 PM

Quote from: fcmatt on November 04, 2012, 04:53:21 PM

I am not in the habit of giving six plus month loans interest free.

Anyway... I was not the first to gpu mine and i still did just fine. Asic will be no different.

It was a serious question though. Many did calcs based on getting in on 50 btc reward time frame which is quickly slipping away. Now it seems we have 25 block reward and price that is flat for future asic miners. Getting hardware first is becoming uber critcal for quick roi. If all ship in same time frame you essentially swapped gpu for asic with no quick roi as diff will adjust oh so fast instead of slower ramp up due to just bfl hardware coming first.

Tons of people preorder MMO's and video games all the time way before release date, so it's not unheard of for that to happen. As for RoI, anyone that calculated RoI and assumed the 50 BTC rewards for anything more than 1 difficulty level is an idjit. All my RoI calculations were done assuming 25x to 50x difficulty increase/reward drop calculations.

That is true about vid games. But tossing around 50 bucks is very different then 1000s to a small biz that could be gone tomorrow if some major screw up takes place. I secured a very in demand car a few years back by putting down a very small fee to hold my spot that was non refundable. Why do these companies not do that? Instead they want it all up front which worried me enough not to get involved.

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Quote from: fcmatt on November 04, 2012, 04:53:21 PM

I am not in the habit of giving six plus month loans interest free.

Anyway... I was not the first to gpu mine and i still did just fine. Asic will be no different.

It was a serious question though. Many did calcs based on getting in on 50 btc reward time frame which is quickly slipping away. Now it seems we have 25 block reward and price that is flat for future asic miners. Getting hardware first is becoming uber critcal for quick roi. If all ship in same time frame you essentially swapped gpu for asic with no quick roi as diff will adjust oh so fast instead of slower ramp up due to just bfl hardware coming first.

Tons of people preorder MMO's and video games all the time way before release date, so it's not unheard of for that to happen. As for RoI, anyone that calculated RoI and assumed the 50 BTC rewards for anything more than 1 difficulty level is an idjit. All my RoI calculations were done assuming 25x to 50x difficulty increase/reward drop calculations.

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