I don't understand all this.
Everyone that's been viewing this forum for more than a month probably knows not to preorder from a Bitcoin company.
Everyone that's been viewing this forum for more than a month probably knows that mining is dead for profit and buying Bitcoin is a much better bet.
I get Bruno doing it. I think he likes being fucked over by Bitcoin long cons. He's been screwed by every one since MyBitcoin. Hell, I think Bruce Wagner still owes him a couple of coins. What I don't understand is all the Godlike Legends in their own minds falling for this shit. Bitcoinica was enough for me. I swore to myself that I would never deal with anyone using Bitcoin again unless I could walk in the businesses front door, make the exchange and have cash or product in my hands before I leave.
That is a fair assessment. Not everyone sees it that way. And anyone not watching for more than a month? They would be easily fooled hence the need for these kinds of threads. I for one had plans to build my own personal industrial mining operation early on, I have the skills and knowhow to do it. I naively did not do my research. Fact is IF the whole 3 week shipment promise that AMT had made initially to not just me but everyone, had been true, then they would not have these problems. But I agree I want someone who has an on hand stock.
Fact is the new people coming in here start seeing messages about the AMT "Beam" or other scammy front company posts by other shady outfits (or one of Josh Zipkins front companies which he admitted he would set up) get fooled and what have you, then they make the mistake alot of noobs make. They buy into the marketing. Joshua Zipkin is good at SEO and manipulating his image on google, his crunchbase profile has been santized but used to be full of buzzwords (not much actual experience). What he did not count on is there are a group of people on here who kept clamoring and complaining to the point where google just has to search it out which screwed him up. He cant manipulate that.
The fix would have been easy. Refund the money and be on your merry way and start over. But instead he threatened (all on record and publicly available info) exposed, and essentially censored (or tried to) anyone who would not march to his tune. A real hitler of an individual. Pompus, arrogant, and a dictator of the worst kind. If you do not march to his tune, he will take action to make sure you are out of the picture. He has already noted his intent to kill Bruno. Even detailed it to one of the forum members in a chat he denies...But well cannot remove as it is a skype chat
he already tried to bribe me twice to hack BCT for 5k which I declined and instead offered legal alternatives that he chose not to avail of himself of..... all just to get at PG...Again just shows the lengths a person like him will go to, to destroy someone. Even in word its enough.
These are the kinds of scumbags we are dealing with not just Josh Zipkin of AMT but all the other companies who have been consistently screwing their customers around. Joshua Zipkin in my opinion just happens to be the dumbest of the bunch and easiest to catch with his antics. So the low hanging fruit is the best option here.