Topic: AMT fucks us over again - page 19. (Read 44813 times)

That is a fair assessment. Not everyone sees it that way. And anyone not watching for more than a month? They would be easily fooled hence the need for these kinds of threads. I for one had plans to build my own personal industrial mining operation early on, I have the skills and knowhow to do it. I naively did not do my research.  Fact is IF the whole 3 week shipment promise that AMT had made initially to not just me but everyone, had been true, then they would not have these problems. But I agree I want someone who has an on hand stock.

Fact is the new people coming in here start seeing messages about the AMT "Beam" or other scammy front company posts by other shady outfits (or one of Josh Zipkins front companies which he admitted he would set up) get fooled and what have you, then they make the mistake alot of noobs make. They buy into the marketing. Joshua Zipkin is good at SEO and manipulating his image on google, his crunchbase profile has been santized but used to be full of buzzwords (not much actual experience). What he did not count on is there are a group of people on here who kept clamoring and complaining to the point where google just has to search it out which screwed him up. He cant manipulate that.

The fix would have been easy. Refund the money and be on your merry way and start over. But instead he threatened (all on record and publicly available info) exposed, and essentially censored (or tried to) anyone who would not march to his tune. A real hitler of an individual. Pompus, arrogant, and a dictator of the worst kind. If you do not march to his tune, he will take action to make sure you are out of the picture. He has already noted his intent to kill Bruno. Even detailed it to one of the forum members in a chat he denies...But well cannot remove as it is a skype chat he already tried to bribe me twice to hack BCT for 5k which I declined and instead offered legal alternatives that he chose not to avail of himself of..... all just to get at PG...Again just shows the lengths a person like him will go to, to destroy someone. Even in word its enough.

These are the kinds of scumbags we are dealing with not just Josh Zipkin of AMT but all the other companies who have been consistently screwing their customers around. Joshua Zipkin in my opinion just happens to be the dumbest of the bunch and easiest to catch with his antics. So the low hanging fruit is the best option here.

I don't understand all this.

Everyone that's been viewing this forum for more than a month probably knows not to preorder from a Bitcoin company.

Everyone that's been viewing this forum for more than a month probably knows that mining is dead for profit and buying Bitcoin is a much better bet.

I get Bruno doing it. I think he likes being fucked over by Bitcoin long cons. He's been screwed by every one since MyBitcoin. Hell, I think Bruce Wagner still owes him a couple of coins. What I don't understand is all the Godlike Legends in their own minds falling for this shit. Bitcoinica was enough for me. I swore to myself that I would never deal with anyone using Bitcoin again unless I could walk in the businesses front door, make the exchange and have cash or product in my hands before I leave.

Think its time for the Joshua Zipkin meme? Remember hand your money to Joshua Zipkin which means:

http://i.imgur.com/ruJ7WxA.jpg

....Josh Zipkin....and just as much an asshole while getting new customers and screwing them the same way.
http://www.southpark.nl/clips/27im67/the-importance-of-saving-money

Ah well interesting thanks for the correction. Again even more so that is a good sign. That they have to do that very little is also a good sign, means they listen to their users, and try to do right by them and work with them to resolve issues instead of ignoring them and dimissing them by deleting their comments. So it shows they have a good handle on how to work with their customers.

Small correction: Spondoolies have a self moderated thread but they have used that feature very little.

I think its critically important to note. The non-moderated threads run by both spondoolies and BITMAIN have very little in terms of complaints. Both companies are responsive and listen to their customers. ON TOP of that, they deliver. I imagine there are others but right now those are the only two companies that consistently have good work going. Good mining hardware. Note that they did not have to do self-moderated threads to censor discussion. Because they stand on the confidence of the quality of their service AND products.

Lets put this into start contrast with AMT (and others) who have to start sock-puppet accounts and self-moderated threads. Those actions alone are incredibly shady in and of themselves and of a questionable nature. Joshua Zipkin has a history of erasing what he does not like in order to increase his search ranking on Google. Ultimately its about duping more people into buying from him. But the shady actions have made it so he should NOT be trusted under any circumstances, as it is patently obvious he misleads consistently. At least that much can be shown with ease based on public statements made. Even public statements compared to each other.

I thought it would be good to get a rational statement so anyone new looking can see this for what it is and make informed decisions.

Looks like the press is having some time with this.
http://bitcoinschannel.com/amt-ceo-joshua-zipkins-naughty-and-nice-list/

The english in the article is terrible, but readable. And the point is clearly made.

Well he posted it in a different subforum. It got moved into hardware. The rest just happens

Oh the best part is, "Hash Master" (I think we all know who that really is) deleted ALL but one of my posts. The one about Joshua Zipkin speaking at the EU conference.......so I deleted it myself. Not gonna give him any press and make him look good at all. All I know is this is pathetic and desperate. And after everything how the hell are they even allowing this _________ to speak at any conference? You would think with just what is being said about him......but then Josh Zerlan is also on the list. Seems like maybe the btc community needs to start looking closley at itself and boycotting these events when people like that are on the roster for giving advice on anything considering their unethical activity.

Yeah, why make a self-moderated thread if you are just doing a testimonial.
Had to know ahead of time he would need to delete the truth

That would be great!!! Well let's see what happens. Oh and the OP "Hash Master" of the "Beam" miner curiously deleted all of my posts. Seems like a very Joshy thing to do.

Someone should expose Zipkin in person at the conference.

Indeed. Well Joshua Zipkin can enjoy the run for now. Bonnie and Clyde had their time in the spotlight too. So did Al Capone.

and i have a feeling marto you are just as big a crook as joshua zipkin. wanna talk about anymore "feelings"?

Look who is at the conference this weekend?

http://www.bitcoin-conference.eu/

AMT Miners Joshua Zipkin is at the conference.

Anyone going to be there? This is his presentation....kinda interesting seeing as he built that on our hard earned money. Would be interesting to see a video of what he has to say on the matter.

The evolution of industrial mining: Past, Present, and Future.

Josh Zipkin, CEO of (AMT) Advanced Mining Technologies

Isn't that cute. He's spending your money.

http://www.bitcoin-conference.eu/

Well lookee who's at the bottom of the list.

People should probably see this thread with the other new "testimonial" thread.