Topic: AMT fucks us over again - page 16. (Read 44813 times)
You know the hilarity of it all? Is that in 1/3rd the time it took AMT to ship an order of 2 miners (just over 6 months) I had placed 5 orders with Bitmain for nearly 20 miners. And I have them all. The orders went out shortly after the orders were put in. Days...usually no more than a difficulty change away from the order time.....In most of that I have made most of my money back on nearly ALL of those miners (as some are very recent orders). It just shows how shitty AMT is as a company. Altho even calling them a company is a stretch. Maybe in the legal sense. For any newbies reading go with bitmaintech if you are going to mine at all.
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Biggest lesson from this thread. Only deal with companies that really have a clean record. There are some that are definitely able to deliver on time and to specification. Bitmaintech are really one of the best in that regard.
Vleisides: Lottery scheme.
Sovu: Credit card scheme.
Ver: Served time for shipping dynamite.
The latter two are somewhat pillars of the Bitcoin space, one fully declaring, will the other has no need to be revealed unless its highly regarded entity goes belly up, but at this penning it's rather sound and I trust.
The former two opted to obfuscate and/or sugarcoat their respective crimes.
Even with that said, I'll be special leery if the following dude enters the Bitcoin space:
You know the hilarity of it all? Is that in 1/3rd the time it took AMT to ship an order of 2 miners (just over 6 months) I had placed 5 orders with Bitmain for nearly 20 miners. And I have them all. The orders went out shortly after the orders were put in. Days...usually no more than a difficulty change away from the order time.....In most of that I have made most of my money back on nearly ALL of those miners (as some are very recent orders). It just shows how shitty AMT is as a company. Altho even calling them a company is a stretch. Maybe in the legal sense. For any newbies reading go with bitmaintech if you are going to mine at all.
+1
Biggest lesson from this thread. Only deal with companies that really have a clean record. There are some that are definitely able to deliver on time and to specification. Bitmaintech are really one of the best in that regard.
I checked my order status 13XX and it changed from processing to Publish today,anyone else notice this....even though I asked for a refund and have not received a reply.
Also, went by both of AMTs offices in PA and no one home.
Just checked my AMT Order status and still says:Also, went by both of AMTs offices in PA and no one home.
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Order Date Status Total
#1565 February 27, 2014 on-hold $4,089.00 for 1 item
#1565 February 27, 2014 on-hold $4,089.00 for 1 item
Rather amusing considering I finally got my miner (upgraded to 1.2TH as well the few other 520's) about 2 weeks ago and the psu for it a week after that...
Im in for just over $6100+, hope they will either go to jail or be forced to repay everyone plus damages.
I wonder when the prosecutor will get tired of the same case over and over again.
"I ordered BFL and they scammed me!"
"I ordered ScamMinerXx420xXBitcoinMiner and they scammed me!"
"I ordered AMT and they scammed me!"
I ordered from AMT (Advanced Mining Technologies) even after I read the following, for I surely thought that it was a different Harrison Zachariah Zipkin (Harry Zipkin) than the one we were lead to believe was JUST a friend of the family of one of the of owners, later learning that the owner of AMT (Advanced Mining Technology) was a one Joshua Zipkin and that Harry Z Zipkin truly is his dad who, by the way, is currently pulling a major scam in Philly, both Jewish Bulgarians operating under the guise of being Freemasons, with Josh Zipkin having his AMT office IN the Masonic Temple while he's in Bulgaria hunting down his wife on its streets.
http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=WdidKSV2G7BvnS3D%252b0xFcw%253d%253d
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3155 EAST PATRICK LANE SUITE 1
LAS VEGAS NV
89120-3481
LAS VEGAS NV
89120-3481
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Grant-Instructor-LLC-Grant-Resource-Center/Las-Vegas-Nevada-89120/Grant-Instructor-LLC-Grant-Resource-Center-UNAUTHORIZED-charges-to-my-account-Las-Vegas-335041
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On 5-14-08 I was online and received a pop-up ad for FREE grant information $2.95 for shipping. There were other options to choose other packages the highest being $49.50, but I chose the lesser option just for the information (so I thought). My account was debited 2.95 and a few days later there were other UNAUTHORIZED charges from Grant Resource in the amount of 49.50, plus 1.49 for international service fee (whatever that means). I received the CD but could not access the information without a unsername/password, which was not provided. Therefore, the CD is useless.
I began searching online to locate this company and found several complaint sites on this company. However, I could not find the original site and ad I ordered the CD through. I got the company's phone number through one of the complaints and called to request a refund. Needless to say, I was told they could not refund my money because I had agreed to a membership when I ordered the CD for 2.95. The lady said the terms of agreement were right there on the website, right below the options. "You can't miss it" she said. I told her there were no terms of agreement in the ad I saw. I told her it was unfair and a rip off! She said it didn't matter what I thought I could NOT get my money back because it was a binding agreement. She was rude and unprofessional, and stated I should have read the fine print. Well, I did not AGREE to 49.50. She said she would cancel my membership and I would not be charged any additional money. She said I would receive an email confirming the cancellation, which I did not receive. I ended the call and contacted my bank.
I decided to call back and try again, this time speaking to a man. I explained the situation to him and got the same response. He said the "system" would not allow him to refund my money. He too, insisted that the terms and agreement were there, and he directed me to a website that was totally different from the ad I had received. I told him that was not the website I saw, and he replied that I must have been on some other site. I gave the company name and address that was on the CD I received and he confirmed it was the same company. I told him how unfair the company's practice is and he said we could talk all day but it wouldn't change anything because he could not refund my money. RIP OFF!!! Again, he said he would cancel the membership and send me a confirmation email, which I still have not received. It is shameless that someone can get away with taking money from consumers accounts UNAUTHORIZED!!!
There are 2 other companies associated with this same address and suite number; Talkpath, LLC, which has one complaint for unauthorized credit card charges; and Zen Marketing, LLC, which ironically has a website -- www.makemoneywithcreditcards.com. Whose credit cards are they making money with --- YOURS! Also, the BBB has been unable to confirm if these two companies are licensed. I could not find a report through BBB on Grant Instructor LLC, but I have filed one and I encourage you to also.
I am still requesting a refund of my money --- all of it! However, I have been warned that once they debit your account, they continue to debit your account even though they tell you the membership has been cancelled. So I have taken care of that. Do not do business with any of these companies. if you have encountered problems with this company -- please, file a report with the BBB.
The company is:
Grant Instructor, LLC
Grant Resource Center
3155 East Patrick Lane, Suite #1
Las Vegas, NV 89120
I began searching online to locate this company and found several complaint sites on this company. However, I could not find the original site and ad I ordered the CD through. I got the company's phone number through one of the complaints and called to request a refund. Needless to say, I was told they could not refund my money because I had agreed to a membership when I ordered the CD for 2.95. The lady said the terms of agreement were right there on the website, right below the options. "You can't miss it" she said. I told her there were no terms of agreement in the ad I saw. I told her it was unfair and a rip off! She said it didn't matter what I thought I could NOT get my money back because it was a binding agreement. She was rude and unprofessional, and stated I should have read the fine print. Well, I did not AGREE to 49.50. She said she would cancel my membership and I would not be charged any additional money. She said I would receive an email confirming the cancellation, which I did not receive. I ended the call and contacted my bank.
I decided to call back and try again, this time speaking to a man. I explained the situation to him and got the same response. He said the "system" would not allow him to refund my money. He too, insisted that the terms and agreement were there, and he directed me to a website that was totally different from the ad I had received. I told him that was not the website I saw, and he replied that I must have been on some other site. I gave the company name and address that was on the CD I received and he confirmed it was the same company. I told him how unfair the company's practice is and he said we could talk all day but it wouldn't change anything because he could not refund my money. RIP OFF!!! Again, he said he would cancel the membership and send me a confirmation email, which I still have not received. It is shameless that someone can get away with taking money from consumers accounts UNAUTHORIZED!!!
There are 2 other companies associated with this same address and suite number; Talkpath, LLC, which has one complaint for unauthorized credit card charges; and Zen Marketing, LLC, which ironically has a website -- www.makemoneywithcreditcards.com. Whose credit cards are they making money with --- YOURS! Also, the BBB has been unable to confirm if these two companies are licensed. I could not find a report through BBB on Grant Instructor LLC, but I have filed one and I encourage you to also.
I am still requesting a refund of my money --- all of it! However, I have been warned that once they debit your account, they continue to debit your account even though they tell you the membership has been cancelled. So I have taken care of that. Do not do business with any of these companies. if you have encountered problems with this company -- please, file a report with the BBB.
The company is:
Grant Instructor, LLC
Grant Resource Center
3155 East Patrick Lane, Suite #1
Las Vegas, NV 89120
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-213-228-8111/37
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Global Reach International, part of doing business as Grant Instructor LLC 800-235-1364
2780 S. Jones Blvd. #3487, Las Vegas, NV 89146
Additional DBA Names:
Internet Profit Gene
My Internet Payday
Turner XP1
Recissionproof360.com
Online Market System
The Grant Secret
Grant For Me
USA Best Grant
The Grant Secret Club
Paymetolist.com
New Grants
Speedy Pay Check
Federal Help Online
Google Gem
Federal Money Network
Grant Fam
Federal Government Grant
Grant Resource Guide
Global Reach International
Hot Business Market Pro
The Listing Lounge
Payday from Home
Blazing Words
Money Market Club
The US Grant Club
Learn, Sell, Profit
Grantdollarstoday
American Grant Club
American Grant Club
Grant Dollars
Grant For You Today
Business Resource
Get My Grant
Grant Resource Center
Grant Research Guide
GRC
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Grant Access Club
Grant Danger
SBA Connections
Secure Grant Now
Breakshaw
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Best Grant For You
Your USA Grant
Grants Are Easy
Government Funded Grants
Mygrantdollars.com
Your American Grant
2008 Grant Instructor
2780 S. Jones Blvd. #3487, Las Vegas, NV 89146
Additional DBA Names:
Internet Profit Gene
My Internet Payday
Turner XP1
Recissionproof360.com
Online Market System
The Grant Secret
Grant For Me
USA Best Grant
The Grant Secret Club
Paymetolist.com
New Grants
Speedy Pay Check
Federal Help Online
Google Gem
Federal Money Network
Grant Fam
Federal Government Grant
Grant Resource Guide
Global Reach International
Hot Business Market Pro
The Listing Lounge
Payday from Home
Blazing Words
Money Market Club
The US Grant Club
Learn, Sell, Profit
Grantdollarstoday
American Grant Club
American Grant Club
Grant Dollars
Grant For You Today
Business Resource
Get My Grant
Grant Resource Center
Grant Research Guide
GRC
Every Day Grant 2008
Grant Access Club
Grant Danger
SBA Connections
Secure Grant Now
Breakshaw
Mycalendarwizard.com
Best Grant For You
Your USA Grant
Grants Are Easy
Government Funded Grants
Mygrantdollars.com
Your American Grant
2008 Grant Instructor
Harrison Zipkin registered several entities in LV while maintaining an office in Philly with his special ADHD son, Joshua Zipkin, making sure his doesn't touch the hot stove or stick a finger in his eye.
"Daddy, Daddy! Watch this!"
You know the hilarity of it all? Is that in 1/3rd the time it took AMT to ship an order of 2 miners (just over 6 months) I had placed 5 orders with Bitmain for nearly 20 miners. And I have them all. The orders went out shortly after the orders were put in. Days...usually no more than a difficulty change away from the order time.....In most of that I have made most of my money back on nearly ALL of those miners (as some are very recent orders). It just shows how shitty AMT is as a company. Altho even calling them a company is a stretch. Maybe in the legal sense. For any newbies reading go with bitmaintech if you are going to mine at all.
"I ordered ScamMinerXx420xXBitcoinMiner and they scammed me!"
I thought the name was just a joke.
I thought the name was just a joke.
I checked my order status 13XX and it changed from processing to Publish today,anyone else notice this....even though I asked for a refund and have not received a reply.
Also, went by both of AMTs offices in PA and no one home.
Just checked my AMT Order status and still says:Also, went by both of AMTs offices in PA and no one home.
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Order Date Status Total
#1565 February 27, 2014 on-hold $4,089.00 for 1 item
#1565 February 27, 2014 on-hold $4,089.00 for 1 item
Rather amusing considering I finally got my miner (upgraded to 1.2TH as well the few other 520's) about 2 weeks ago and the psu for it a week after that...
Im in for just over $6100+, hope they will either go to jail or be forced to repay everyone plus damages.
I wonder when the prosecutor will get tired of the same case over and over again.
"I ordered BFL and they scammed me!"
"I ordered ScamMinerXx420xXBitcoinMiner and they scammed me!"
"I ordered AMT and they scammed me!"
So have you guys decided what you're going to do to them at the conference? I vote for the glass of warm piss idea.
Hey Bruno, am I going to see you again at this conference in Vegas?
Hey Bruno, am I going to see you again at this conference in Vegas?
I vote liquid ass
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuDQbDdrRO8
I checked my order status 13XX and it changed from processing to Publish today,anyone else notice this....even though I asked for a refund and have not received a reply.
Also, went by both of AMTs offices in PA and no one home.
Just checked my AMT Order status and still says:Also, went by both of AMTs offices in PA and no one home.
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Order Date Status Total
#1565 February 27, 2014 on-hold $4,089.00 for 1 item
#1565 February 27, 2014 on-hold $4,089.00 for 1 item
Rather amusing considering I finally got my miner (upgraded to 1.2TH as well the few other 520's) about 2 weeks ago and the psu for it a week after that...
Im in for just over $6100+, hope they will either go to jail or be forced to repay everyone plus damages.
So have you guys decided what you're going to do to them at the conference? I vote for the glass of warm piss idea.
Hey Bruno, am I going to see you again at this conference in Vegas?
Hey Bruno, am I going to see you again at this conference in Vegas?
I vote liquid ass
So have you guys decided what you're going to do to them at the conference? I vote for the glass of warm piss idea.
Hey Bruno, am I going to see you again at this conference in Vegas?
Hey Bruno, am I going to see you again at this conference in Vegas?
Feels good to not have my posts randomly deleted by AMT_Miners aka Joshua Zipkin, does anyone feel the same way?
I feel sick to my stomach that Black Arrow is allowed to stay permanently logged in to run their bot to automatically delete posts every 15 minutes of their naysayers.
Feels good to not have my posts randomly deleted by AMT_Miners aka Joshua Zipkin, does anyone feel the same way?
That's because we probably are all on the naughty list. I'm pretty sure the "nice" list right now consists of about one person. Joshua Zipkin.
They still haven't sent me a PSU, nor answered my e-mails about one. Which of course means they've still breached their contract. I mean they breached it other way too so really they have no leg to stand on.
These chips are available for immediately delivery after your purchase is verified and confirmed. Methods of payment include Wire Transfer, ACH Transfers, BTC payment, LTC payment, and of course we accept all forms of checks as well.
Another lie from Josh Zipkin and his AMT scam machine. I know for a fact they can't accept reality checks.
But they did take personal checks though have trouble remembering which bank(s) they are deposited in... Probably still the same.Another lie from Josh Zipkin and his AMT scam machine. I know for a fact they can't accept reality checks.
That one is easy. If you paid with check, just have your bank check which it was cashed with. Thats the nice thing about checks. They can be checked and traced
You can do the remembering if they can't or won't.
These chips are available for immediately delivery after your purchase is verified and confirmed. Methods of payment include Wire Transfer, ACH Transfers, BTC payment, LTC payment, and of course we accept all forms of checks as well.
Another lie from Josh Zipkin and his AMT scam machine. I know for a fact they can't accept reality checks.
But they did take personal checks though have trouble remembering which bank(s) they are deposited in... Probably still the same. Another lie from Josh Zipkin and his AMT scam machine. I know for a fact they can't accept reality checks.
I checked my order status 13XX and it changed from processing to Publish today,anyone else notice this....even though I asked for a refund and have not received a reply.
Also, went by both of AMTs offices in PA and no one home.
Just checked my AMT Order status and still says:Also, went by both of AMTs offices in PA and no one home.
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Order Date Status Total
#1565 February 27, 2014 on-hold $4,089.00 for 1 item
#1565 February 27, 2014 on-hold $4,089.00 for 1 item
Rather amusing considering I finally got my miner (upgraded to 1.2TH as well the few other 520's) about 2 weeks ago and the psu for it a week after that...
AMT just like a shit, they own me 5 BTC long long ago.
These chips are available for immediately delivery after your purchase is verified and confirmed. Methods of payment include Wire Transfer, ACH Transfers, BTC payment, LTC payment, and of course we accept all forms of checks as well.
Another lie from Josh Zipkin and his AMT scam machine. I know for a fact they can't accept reality checks.
Another lie from Josh Zipkin and his AMT scam machine. I know for a fact they can't accept reality checks.
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