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September 11, 2014, 04:03:16 PM
What a fucking scam-fest! I've been following the BA debacle for months whilst waiting for my miner, only just stumbled into the AMT shenanigans. I'd better get myself some popcorn...
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September 11, 2014, 10:14:12 AM
The calm before the storm........
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September 10, 2014, 10:48:45 PM
A fun little google search. I think most of the customers will appreciate this.

http://bit.ly/1tLXxKm
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September 10, 2014, 09:01:12 PM
Let me explain the stakes here....did you read when Josh outed me on page 14? Mentioned the government connections? High level ones? Something I NEVER told him nor is true? First it is illegal to expose even if he did know and doing it under false pretense is even worse. And to do it at all involves federal prison time. This does not mean I don't know people in US Government positions Wink I just dont do the "high level" work he implies I do as a subcontractor.

Unfortunately you are starting to appear guilty by association and clearly trying to discredit me (poorly at that). And the fact you think I am Josh's "alter ego" just proves how pathetic the attempt is.... the whole internet now knows who I am thanks to your buddy Joshua Zipkin. Give it up and go away. If you still feel this is necessary then maybe we need to start looking at technobit's practices with it's customers? And the 6month failure rate of your hardware that is mentioned by Josh.......hmm. He seemed to know ALOT about what is going on your side of things.

But like I said. Address it with Josh, HE is the one saying these things. I mean those are HIS words there. Take it up with him. Not me. Altho it does not matter. Noone believes anything he says anyway in public anymore.

Let me be perfectly clear Marto74......ANOTHER post trying this crap, and I will certainly expose more information (as there is more) about your connection to Joshua Zipkin. And just for the hell of it in the form of a screenshot. So everyone can see it as it was written. I really am done dicking around with you as well. You come to his defense expect the same treatment.
Ohhhhh
OK
go it is interesting .
Are you sure you are not Josh Zipkin ?
Cheesy
You are just messenger ?But in the same time are threatening me, right
I still think you are just another Josh product in his own  world Cheesy
Anyway I'm out of your drama here.
And please do not show me more of JZ lies and chats ( or yours Wink )

Again I have no busines with JZ You have.


Let me be clear here. That was no threat, you have nothing to worry about if it is as you said and all they did was buy a license then there is no problem, a normal business transaction and thats it. It is just another lie Joshua Zipkin made up that I am exposing which sadly also puts you in a bad spot. I am making no threats. If in the event it does come out that you are associated with him in more than just said license. Then you will unfortunately be a part of that. That is not a threat. Its an unfortunate fact.
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September 10, 2014, 08:37:17 PM
Let me explain the stakes here....did you read when Josh outed me on page 14? Mentioned the government connections? High level ones? Something I NEVER told him nor is true? First it is illegal to expose even if he did know and doing it under false pretense is even worse. And to do it at all involves federal prison time. This does not mean I don't know people in US Government positions Wink I just dont do the "high level" work he implies I do as a subcontractor.

Unfortunately you are starting to appear guilty by association and clearly trying to discredit me (poorly at that). And the fact you think I am Josh's "alter ego" just proves how pathetic the attempt is.... the whole internet now knows who I am thanks to your buddy Joshua Zipkin. Give it up and go away. If you still feel this is necessary then maybe we need to start looking at technobit's practices with it's customers? And the 6month failure rate of your hardware that is mentioned by Josh.......hmm. He seemed to know ALOT about what is going on your side of things.

But like I said. Address it with Josh, HE is the one saying these things. I mean those are HIS words there. Take it up with him. Not me. Altho it does not matter. Noone believes anything he says anyway in public anymore.

Let me be perfectly clear Marto74......ANOTHER post trying this crap, and I will certainly expose more information (as there is more) about your connection to Joshua Zipkin. And just for the hell of it in the form of a screenshot. So everyone can see it as it was written. I really am done dicking around with you as well. You come to his defense expect the same treatment.
Ohhhhh
OK
go it is interesting .
Are you sure you are not Josh Zipkin ?
Cheesy
You are just messenger ?But in the same time are threatening me, right
I still think you are just another Josh product in his own  world Cheesy
Anyway I'm out of your drama here.
And please do not show me more of JZ lies and chats ( or yours Wink )

Again I have no busines with JZ You have.


If you are not in his business then you are good to go. No hard feelings. I just posted what he thought of you and whatever claims he is making. If you have done everything legal as you have said it was then you are in good shape and nothing to worry about and it's Joshua and the lies he is telling about things you are doing you need to be concerned about Wink when the shit hits the fan....and I assure you it will, you won't be a part of it unless you really are involved him. Simple.
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September 10, 2014, 07:14:39 PM
Let me explain the stakes here....did you read when Josh outed me on page 14? Mentioned the government connections? High level ones? Something I NEVER told him nor is true? First it is illegal to expose even if he did know and doing it under false pretense is even worse. And to do it at all involves federal prison time. This does not mean I don't know people in US Government positions Wink I just dont do the "high level" work he implies I do as a subcontractor.

Unfortunately you are starting to appear guilty by association and clearly trying to discredit me (poorly at that). And the fact you think I am Josh's "alter ego" just proves how pathetic the attempt is.... the whole internet now knows who I am thanks to your buddy Joshua Zipkin. Give it up and go away. If you still feel this is necessary then maybe we need to start looking at technobit's practices with it's customers? And the 6month failure rate of your hardware that is mentioned by Josh.......hmm. He seemed to know ALOT about what is going on your side of things.

But like I said. Address it with Josh, HE is the one saying these things. I mean those are HIS words there. Take it up with him. Not me. Altho it does not matter. Noone believes anything he says anyway in public anymore.

Let me be perfectly clear Marto74......ANOTHER post trying this crap, and I will certainly expose more information (as there is more) about your connection to Joshua Zipkin. And just for the hell of it in the form of a screenshot. So everyone can see it as it was written. I really am done dicking around with you as well. You come to his defense expect the same treatment.
Ohhhhh
OK
go it is interesting .
Are you sure you are not Josh Zipkin ?
Cheesy
You are just messenger ?But in the same time are threatening me, right
I still think you are just another Josh product in his own  world Cheesy
Anyway I'm out of your drama here.
And please do not show me more of JZ lies and chats ( or yours Wink )

Again I have no busines with JZ You have.




I certainly hope not for your sake. Besides we don't want to take down all of Bulgaria in just one day ;-)
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September 10, 2014, 06:43:16 PM
Let me explain the stakes here....did you read when Josh outed me on page 14? Mentioned the government connections? High level ones? Something I NEVER told him nor is true? First it is illegal to expose even if he did know and doing it under false pretense is even worse. And to do it at all involves federal prison time. This does not mean I don't know people in US Government positions Wink I just dont do the "high level" work he implies I do as a subcontractor.

Unfortunately you are starting to appear guilty by association and clearly trying to discredit me (poorly at that). And the fact you think I am Josh's "alter ego" just proves how pathetic the attempt is.... the whole internet now knows who I am thanks to your buddy Joshua Zipkin. Give it up and go away. If you still feel this is necessary then maybe we need to start looking at technobit's practices with it's customers? And the 6month failure rate of your hardware that is mentioned by Josh.......hmm. He seemed to know ALOT about what is going on your side of things.

But like I said. Address it with Josh, HE is the one saying these things. I mean those are HIS words there. Take it up with him. Not me. Altho it does not matter. Noone believes anything he says anyway in public anymore.

Let me be perfectly clear Marto74......ANOTHER post trying this crap, and I will certainly expose more information (as there is more) about your connection to Joshua Zipkin. And just for the hell of it in the form of a screenshot. So everyone can see it as it was written. I really am done dicking around with you as well. You come to his defense expect the same treatment.
Ohhhhh
OK
go it is interesting .
Are you sure you are not Josh Zipkin ?
Cheesy
You are just messenger ?But in the same time are threatening me, right
I still think you are just another Josh product in his own  world Cheesy
Anyway I'm out of your drama here.
And please do not show me more of JZ lies and chats ( or yours Wink )

Again I have no busines with JZ You have.


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September 10, 2014, 06:10:58 PM
Alright lets get this in high gear. You just don't screw with motivated people. And you never screw with a motivated person's family.

I think Josh should make it a point to make the Bitcoin conference he obviously feel he did nothing wrong. I would love to see him go there and try hawking his wares. Maybe he can put all our money on black, then if he wins he can just refund us. That's probably his actual plan and that is why he hasn't told us yet.

I'd still like the power supply that never came with my order.
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September 10, 2014, 05:43:07 PM
Let me explain the stakes here....did you read when Josh outed me on page 14? Mentioned the government connections? High level ones? Something I NEVER told him nor is true? First it is illegal to expose even if he did know and doing it under false pretense is even worse. And to do it at all involves federal prison time. This does not mean I don't know people in US Government positions Wink I just dont do the "high level" work he implies I do as a subcontractor.

Unfortunately you are starting to appear guilty by association and clearly trying to discredit me (poorly at that). And the fact you think I am Josh's "alter ego" just proves how pathetic the attempt is.... the whole internet now knows who I am thanks to your buddy Joshua Zipkin. Give it up and go away. If you still feel this is necessary then maybe we need to start looking at technobit's practices with it's customers? And the 6month failure rate of your hardware that is mentioned by Josh.......hmm. He seemed to know ALOT about what is going on your side of things.

But like I said. Address it with Josh, HE is the one saying these things. I mean those are HIS words there. Take it up with him. Not me. Altho it does not matter. Noone believes anything he says anyway in public anymore.

Let me be perfectly clear Marto74......ANOTHER post trying this crap, and I will certainly expose more information (as there is more) about your connection to Joshua Zipkin. And just for the hell of it in the form of a screenshot. So everyone can see it as it was written. I really am done dicking around with you as well. You come to his defense expect the same treatment.
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September 10, 2014, 05:26:23 PM
So using Josh words as a truth (!!!!) You make statements .
Really ?
Again
Amt is just a customer , that is all.
And if you insist there is partnership you should prove it.



I just did...read above. As I said. If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about.

Again with the "just a customer" thing. Josh pulled the same crap too.
I already posted the proof. The fact Josh mentioned you are investing already makes you a partner.
Take it up with him. He said it all I did was repost his words. You are defending him when he is there insulting you and outing your business arrangements that clearly are not what you represented as far as a license. There is talk of investment which is usually partnership words on quite a few levels.
Hahaha
and you or Josh Zipkin can prove that I invested in something together with him , right ?
Do you believe that somebody with brain in his head will invest in a venture with somebody that bought a lot of A1 chips and sit on them for months
Cheesy

Oh I won't be doing the proving.....you will see soon enough Wink
?
I still had a feeling that you are just another Zipkin's alter ego.
Smiley
If so ..............
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September 10, 2014, 05:22:08 PM
So using Josh words as a truth (!!!!) You make statements .
Really ?
Again
Amt is just a customer , that is all.
And if you insist there is partnership you should prove it.



I just did...read above. As I said. If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about.

Again with the "just a customer" thing. Josh pulled the same crap too.
I already posted the proof. The fact Josh mentioned you are investing already makes you a partner.
Take it up with him. He said it all I did was repost his words. You are defending him when he is there insulting you and outing your business arrangements that clearly are not what you represented as far as a license. There is talk of investment which is usually partnership words on quite a few levels.
Hahaha
and you or Josh Zipkin can prove that I invested in something together with him , right ?
Do you believe that somebody with brain in his head will invest in a venture with somebody that bought a lot of A1 chips and sit on them for months
Cheesy

Oh I won't be doing the proving.....you will see soon enough Wink
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September 10, 2014, 05:21:12 PM
So using Josh words as a truth (!!!!) You make statements .
Really ?
Again
Amt is just a customer , that is all.
And if you insist there is partnership you should prove it.



I just did...read above. As I said. If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about.

Again with the "just a customer" thing. Josh pulled the same crap too.
I already posted the proof. The fact Josh mentioned you are investing already makes you a partner.
Take it up with him. He said it all I did was repost his words. You are defending him when he is there insulting you and outing your business arrangements that clearly are not what you represented as far as a license. There is talk of investment which is usually partnership words on quite a few levels.
Hahaha
and you or Josh Zipkin can prove that I invested in something together with him , right ?
Do you believe that somebody with brain in his head will invest in a venture with somebody that bought a lot of A1 chips and sit on them for months
Cheesy
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September 10, 2014, 05:09:50 PM
So using Josh words as a truth (!!!!) You make statements .
Really ?
Again
Amt is just a customer , that is all.
And if you insist there is partnership you should prove it.



I just did...read above. As I said. If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about.

I already posted the proof. The fact Josh mentioned you are investing already makes you a partner.
Take it up with him. He said it all I did was repost his words. You are defending him when he is there insulting you and outing your business arrangements that clearly are not what you represented as far as a license. There is talk of investment which is usually partnership words on quite a few levels.

But for the sake of repetition you should re-read his words carefully:

JOSHUA ZIPKINS OWN WORDS take it up with him. Don't shoot the messenger.

[5/31/2014 12:28:50 AM] Joshua: in general the previous guys hacked the firmware tplink came with and moded a new update which we install
[5/31/2014 12:28:53 AM] Joshua: which is illegal
[5/31/2014 12:30:10 AM] Joshua: but.. yea, it works. But the think is technobit/martin is a dick and locks him firmware/software on his boards and his connectivity devices. And because he got into an argument with ckolvakis (cgminer author) he wont inlcude technobit drivers in cgminer
[5/31/2014 12:46:36 AM] Joshua: they heatup to much because technobit takes the same board and mods it per chip over and over, often skipping steps or think about alternative components
[5/31/2014 12:47:18 AM] Joshua: but martin listens to me a bit, like the whole "make it the size of the HDD hardrive and make sure all the connectors are faces on side" is a major improvement
[6/4/2014 10:24:36 PM] Joshua: the wifi miner has a big potential, martin from technobit is 100% on board with it and will invest a bit in the production
[6/12/2014 11:57:49 AM] Joshua: Yea martin's not pissed, he said he figure it out pretty quick. All is wel
[6/12/2014 11:58:17 AM] Joshua: its kinda hard to break up two guys who's wive's are friends. Its what they are trying to do it seems

An investment is not just a license. You are actively participating in the financial success of a business venture as a stake holder and financial beneficiary. Do you really want to keep this going? I will back off mentioning your name. But you certainly are not being forthcoming about your "relationship" with AMT. Let me be VERY clear here. If you are found to have ANYTHING to do with Joshua Zipkin, you too will be held criminally liable, IF not then again, you have NOTHING to worry about.
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September 10, 2014, 05:07:09 PM
So using Josh words as a truth (!!!!) You make statements .
Really ?
Again
Amt is just a customer , that is all.
And if you insist there is partnership you should prove it.

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September 10, 2014, 04:25:43 PM
For anyone with issues and who felt they have been defrauded by Joshua Zipkin please send me a PM with the details of your situation (no personal information required) just the order number and the amount. If you have been in other ways defrauded or somehow illegally acted upon by him feel free to also put that information in the PM. I will reply with the information you will require to make sure action can be taken. If you are international, this matter can still apply you as well.
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September 10, 2014, 03:41:09 PM
Joshua Zipkin you have a habit of dealing in sock puppets here is a bit more. Here is some more evidence that you know how the SEO system works and that you used it to dox me and a few other people. Oh and another reference to hacking BCT there int he second line, also how I tried helping you SO you could get the more sales you actually claim you got. Which means we still have no refunds. Where are they? Hmmm.....

A reminder of how Joshua Zipkin operates. This is not the only instance where he makes this offer. There was another one in the group chat that was leaked. Just to show the level of shadiness Josh will stoop to.

[6/2/2014 9:04:50 PM] Joshua: can you hack bitcoin talk?
[6/2/2014 9:05:23 PM] Joshua: ill give 5k if you do
[6/2/2014 9:05:42 PM] Joshua: dont take it down
[6/2/2014 9:06:01 PM] Joshua:  just delete phineauses posts, he has ruined mynamed on google

[6/2/2014 9:15:24 PM] Joshua: a bank declined my application because they googled my name and "advanced mining technologies
[6/2/2014 9:15:57 PM] Joshua: im sure that if it was hacked on his posts were deleted the administration would not go through the whole restoration of the backup just for a few of his posts

Some more:

[6/4/2014 10:03:35 PM | Edited 10:03:46 PM] Joshua: I just need the right people, and i need to not be the one to manage them. Smiley
[6/4/2014 10:03:37 PM] Opieum2: Considering the digital alzhiemers people seem t have at times repeating the same stuff.
[6/4/2014 10:03:51 PM] Opieum2: This is where outsourcing works best lol
[6/4/2014 10:03:57 PM] Joshua: right
[6/4/2014 10:04:15 PM] Joshua: so the east europe thing works and i depating wiether or not to go there now or to china
[6/4/2014 10:05:04 PM] Joshua: china fascilities the product 10 day build, east europe fascilities the other business models (minerhelp.com, comparisson website) and customer support
[6/4/2014 10:05:56 PM] Joshua: im thinking china - then east europe, then back to philly
[6/4/2014 10:06:59 PM] Joshua: but i have to do this wifi thing immediately
[6/4/2014 10:07:10 PM] Opieum2: An idea here is get enough of a product run to sort out the current mess....with that you get the china thing started. It covers the current situaiton niceley make sure everyone here or most everyone walks away happy. Its one good way to start rebuilding credibility lost because of all the nonsense. Once thats done start regular in-stock sales. Then you can phase in the support with all that.
[6/4/2014 10:07:26 PM] Joshua: and i need to focus on new interesting products digital or physical which will appeal to new consumer segments - thats the one thing no one is doing
[6/4/2014 10:08:11 PM] Joshua: i dont think eveyrone will be happy
[6/4/2014 10:08:14 PM] Opieum2: Of course not
[6/4/2014 10:08:22 PM] Joshua: maybe understanding, but not happy
[6/4/2014 10:08:25 PM] Opieum2: Right
[6/4/2014 10:08:27 PM] Opieum2: and thats fine
[6/4/2014 10:08:27 PM] Joshua: like lets say we did a recall
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September 10, 2014, 02:37:39 PM
I think up to this point I have proven how far I am willing to go to ensure Joshua Zipkin gets justice for his actions. This is just the beginning since he still has to this point not removed the offending information or even apologized for posting information that is blatantly false and puts my family and I into extreme danger....not that it matters as it has already been mirrored elsewhere and can and will be used against him in a court of CRIMINAL law. So that is how the matter is being perused. My guess is he will be too "busy" to show up at the inside bitcoins conference in Vegas in October.
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September 10, 2014, 02:32:15 PM
There appears to be a clear case of collusion among these vendors. Joshua Zipkin mentions these business relationships with other vendors who should be competitors. This could be a disturbing situation for us all who are customers of any of these "troubled" companies. Of course all this is based on the available information that has been posted and Josh's words themselves. While he never outright mentions collusion he does say he has business relationships...which is odd considering they would in effect be competitors. Its like Ford and Chevy working together to sell cars. They could be pooling resources to build "petahash farms" and such to enrich themselves at our expense. An action like this could cause major problems in the mining community. And it's all our worst fears realized. It would also explain the delays we have had as well. Worth looking into if it is the case.

Oh and since Joshua Zipkin and his mentality attitude is of any indication....seeing how he edited the alliance he had with BA (just like Black Arrow has also been doing), Here is the ORIGINAL information that someone else waybacked..

http://web.archive.org/web/20140906213337/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569926.260

At this point his nonsense editing cannot be taken back. Sucks for me because my info stays out there, but sucks worse for him because its evidence against his hostile and vindictive actions against his clients who gave him money. ALSO the admission that he does indeed work with Black arrow and Technobit. At any rate it might be good for some BA customers and AMT customers to start comparing notes. There could be a collusion here to collectivly rip us off considering the history that the CEO of BA already has with the alleged credit fraud in Romania.
Just be careful when you follow Bicknelski's hate and try to put us into this mess !
And please Josh Zipkin is not a Bulgarian in any way, so stop using "Bulgarian" as an offence

Uh yeah, he is Bulgarian. In fact, he's in Bulgaria right now - hiding from his customers.

Regardless that fact right now is irrelevant. He is still a US citizen...or at the very least has some legal tie to the USA. Plus a registered business in the United States, which makes him subject to United States laws.  Religion, race, whatever all that right now is irrelevant except for his legal national status. IF not him then they arrest Jim Brown/Tyler Loomis as the partner who I imagine to get leniency will gladly drop the dime on Joshua Zipkin.
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