Topic: AMT fucks us over again - page 35. (Read 44952 times)

Well at least you didn't order from Hash Fast...

I got screwed up also with preorders:

$12K AMT miners Josh that son of the bitch.
$4500 BFL fucked me over.
$12K Cointerra with pre-orders late..and not the speed that they promised.

How many of these American Junky companies are outhere? And No one seems to not be able to stop them!

Yeah
That would be it
However a free genno stake for opium2 can do the job and save some bug for pre-payed lawyers. More over opium2 assumptions will be warmed welcomed by the jury
Zipkin Poserko
Visit Genno's pub urgently and prepay all stakes for ever and ever

I am wandering when hiding tax charges will come to light? That will put Zipkin's ass in jail for no time
To refresh everybody memories Zipkin clearly offered money under the table to ISAWHIM here in public. I am dam sure that his greedy ass is doing something illegal concerning taxes.
To all of you who is considering/taking law actions against AMT. Ask your layers how a tax investigation can be started against AMT. This will make Zipkin much more polite. I think that he will start with refunds immediately
And zipkin i will put this in amt fuks us over again so you will not be able to delete it

that AMT official thread is just... WOW.  hope they end up in jail for this shit.  Wire fraud and mail fraud are serious charges.

i really feel for the guys who are out thousands of dollars.  that money is most likely gone forever. 

AMT has the gall to blame this board for their misfortune.  lol.  Everything they get is self-inflicted, and could have been easily avoided.

About that experience staff at Svengoolie, I just happen know the inside scoop there, one aspect of which they were picking the brains of engineers about trivial things that most laymen, sans myself, in the Bitcoin community consider common knowledge. As we've all seen, and my source confirms, they're excellent in marketing. If you happen to visit their office on the Gaza Strip (I do mean ON), make sure you take a selfie in front of the two blown-up buses outside their office door. (seriously, for I'm not making this shit up)

Apologize for the aside, but I deemed it important to share.

that's some serious bullshit.

i was order #928, ordered on Dec 9.  i too got the repeated assurances that my order would ship on time.  2 weeks after it should have shipped, i see Biomech posting on here about the FREE, unsolicited, rig they sent him.  i have no gripes against biomech personally, he's great dude.  My gripe is ntirely against AMT.  WTF is that shit?  sending free machines to people, when you have paying customers waiting for theirs?  I'd never heard of such a fucked up business practice as this, until i started eading about AMT.  they did the same thing with Phinn(Bruno).   giving out free shit, trying to save face, when they have a line of customers who already paid.

i joined the class action too.  my gripe is ovr $160 shipping refund that they got from fedex for my fucked up order, and the failure to comply with their MPP.  Per the MPP i should have been sent a 220GH rig, or at least been offered the chance to upgrade, like they say in the MPP.   i had to bug the shit out of them just to get a response about my tracking number, which conveniently shipped the day after i started spamming them about the MPP upgrade.  i guess its too difficult to ship a 2nd package with the extra parts.  2 extra boards would have made me happy, and i would have gushed about what a great company they are.   now they get bashed every time i get the chance.  fuck those crooked bastards.  pardon my french.

You are correct in that it doesnt affect customers. My point is its an industry thing that the makers of ASICs dont really count on. (minus spondoolies seeing who they have on their staff and are already experienced in this area hence why their preorders have gone so phenomenally well).


But the pre-order system is a mess overall.

delays and what not don't affect AMD and Intel's customers, other than the customers having to wait longer to purchase the next best thing.    The customers lose nothing with that model, and that's why those companies are still in business and thriving.  The pre-order model that has popped up in the mining hw space is ridiculous, and will stop very soon.  People are being given many choices for hw purchases, and that choice should be to not put money up front for technology that has yet to be proven.

i pre-ordered once.  that's it.  learned my lesson.   i dont care what they promise, i will not pre-order again.  

fool me once, shame on you.  fool me twice, shame on me.

LOL.  no refunds, no MPP upgrades, for the most part... no tech support on miners that manage to get shipped.  I got  support with mine, but from what i can tell, i am the exception rather than the rule.  Most folks report zero tech support on their broken miners.

no testing at the manufacture facility, or very little, or they ship them whether they work or not, in which case, why bother testing.

i, along with most others in this thread, who've purchased miners from AMT have joined the class action lawsuit against AMT.

To my knowledge everyone who's asked for a refund has not been given one. Myself included. Can't even get a reply to my request(s) for a refund.

Does AMT issue refunds?

Actually I got the impression they were in WAY over their heads. And they were not expecting the problems they had like chip delays and all that (which is something that can even happen to companies like Intel and AMD). Compounded by the community reactions and all that yea it was just a recipe for disaster. Its a business, and people are right to be mad, I know I was with the fail communication. But at the end of the day they seem to be working to deliver and correct the problems even if slowly. Alot more of it seems to be happening in the background outside this forum. I spoke to Josh personally on this and mentioned communication needs to improve. It seems to be that he is more interested in working directly with the people who are not suing him, as legally he cannot talk to them unless the legal teams agree on it. But at the end of the day I get the impression he is working to make this right. Does not sound shady to me.

Most of the ASIC companies are having these problems. Delays. But the worst part is a result of the pre-orders. That is what is causing it. Obviously its a shit model to follow in this situation because its playing with peoples money. And in the US as well as the rest of the world its a stupid thing to do. With all the consumer protections its just not a smart thing. SO in the end all these pre-order companies, that did not deliver on time or delivered worse than expected, pay the price. Its economic darwinism in effect. Survival of the fittest. This is why Spondoolies is doing so well. They had an excellent release and preorder. Lets hope they maintain that pace.

That's why people need to stop funding shady people...

Update guy's

According to this post

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6290134

Even guys who met Zipkin the clown in person and received miners in hand are not able to make AMT crap work

0GH issue sounds like they got 100% not working crap from Zipkin hands
UPDATE
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6301060
Some background is required to solve it

I do have following questions for AMT:
WRONG see UPDATE
1. Zipikin poserko how your hands could give 100% not working crap when you are  meeting face to face with customer?
We all know that you have no dignity and owner but you are loosing even common sense. I just can not get it. You meet the guy, knowing that the crap that you are giving is not working and you still gave the miner to him?
What do you think gonna happen if by accident you meet him or someone else from your customers in Genno's pub
I do not want to think when gonna happen
the below two questions remain
2. Zipkin poserko how long it is taking for you to give just simple update what PSU guy's do need
Have in mind that they are spending 300-500 USD on top just for PSU which supposed to be delivered with the crap
I know you do not care sure....

3. Zipkin POSERKOOOOOO when you are gonna pay me the 10 BTC you own me. I am totally fucked

4. Zipkin Poserko it is about time to confess that you do not have a single working blade amongst your CRAP

Here is one of mine posts kindly moderated from Zipkin

i have been following that thread since late last year, debating whether to take a chance on them. its just sad to see the way they lead people and then ship crap. you are right, they did me a favor.

Fuck them dude
Buy something else they just made you a BIG favor

i received an email saying that the moderator (amt) deleted my post and i have been requested not to post again.  i just asked them a question about the mythical 3.4Ths miners. i guess my money is not good enough for them.