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November 08, 2019, 04:51:32 AM
There is such a statement that Joshua will lose the fight to Ruiz, because some facts speak about this, after the analysis of which one can come to this conclusion.  First of all, I want to note that the rematch will take place in Saudi Arabia, where no battles have been fought before.  In addition, it is very revealing that the fighter who lost in the first battle will receive $ 75 million for the second rematch, which is much more than in the first battle.  This of course is information for thought only.
Although Ruiz can be consider as the favourite here but there was news regarding the payment from both of fighters that Ruiz payment will be so low compare to Joshua payment that he will only get 9 million pounds for this rematch and for Joshua payment it will be doubled or triples from Ruiz money but i don't think it will be reach to $75 million
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November 07, 2019, 04:24:17 PM
There is such a statement that Joshua will lose the fight to Ruiz, because some facts speak about this, after the analysis of which one can come to this conclusion.  First of all, I want to note that the rematch will take place in Saudi Arabia, where no battles have been fought before.  In addition, it is very revealing that the fighter who lost in the first battle will receive $ 75 million for the second rematch, which is much more than in the first battle.  This of course is information for thought only.

Where did you see that Joshua will be receiving $75 million for the rematch? That sounds highly unlikely even if AJ is one of the UK's top prize fighters.

I mean we can assume that AJ and Ruiz are getting 50:50 for the next fight, do you really think Ruiz is getting paid $75m... I highly doubt that.

I think it's probably somewhere more like $25-$30 million for the pair if 50:50, or $35m and $25m if not.
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November 07, 2019, 02:55:29 PM
There is such a statement that Joshua will lose the fight to Ruiz, because some facts speak about this, after the analysis of which one can come to this conclusion.  First of all, I want to note that the rematch will take place in Saudi Arabia, where no battles have been fought before.  In addition, it is very revealing that the fighter who lost in the first battle will receive $ 75 million for the second rematch, which is much more than in the first battle.  This of course is information for thought only.
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November 07, 2019, 01:47:00 PM
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Heavyweight contender Tyson Fury would like to see his countryman Anthony Joshua get revenge against Andy Ruiz - but he doesn't expect that scenario to take place.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-i-hope-joshua-wins-i-see-ruiz-doing-same-thing--144072

Fury wanted Joshua to win, however, he thinks that Ruiz will make it 2-0.

Of course, if Joshua win then it's going to be a mega fight between the two. But a Ruiz win will put them in collision course, and for me it will be a very easy fight for him because we all know that Fury has different tools, jabs and good defense that can overwhelm Ruiz.
Don't talk of Tyson Fury fighting Andy Ruiz first. You should know that Deontay Wilder and Andy Ruiz are under PBC, so they are easier to match. And PBC is hard to negotiate with other promoters. Much more harder if we talk about Ruiz vs Fury, because everyone knows PBC is in a disadvantage.

I also thought that Ruiz would win this fight.but after seeing the odds on Sportsbetio (https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/joshua-anthony-ruiz-jr-andy-5d4e7739a0de2962b0cbecf7) I'm not too sure anymore Ruiz will win. the Odds are too different, I think this fight will be a trilogy fight.

Who cares about the odds. Bookmakers will drop AJ odds because he got more betting fans and supporters than Ruiz. This is why odds are sometimes deceiving due to supply and demand. 
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November 07, 2019, 07:51:34 AM
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Heavyweight contender Tyson Fury would like to see his countryman Anthony Joshua get revenge against Andy Ruiz - but he doesn't expect that scenario to take place.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-i-hope-joshua-wins-i-see-ruiz-doing-same-thing--144072

Fury wanted Joshua to win, however, he thinks that Ruiz will make it 2-0.

Of course, if Joshua win then it's going to be a mega fight between the two. But a Ruiz win will put them in collision course, and for me it will be a very easy fight for him because we all know that Fury has different tools, jabs and good defense that can overwhelm Ruiz.
I also thought that Ruiz would win this fight.but after seeing the odds on Sportsbetio (https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/joshua-anthony-ruiz-jr-andy-5d4e7739a0de2962b0cbecf7) I'm not too sure anymore Ruiz will win. the Odds are too different, I think this fight will be a trilogy fight.
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November 07, 2019, 07:29:00 AM
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Heavyweight contender Tyson Fury would like to see his countryman Anthony Joshua get revenge against Andy Ruiz - but he doesn't expect that scenario to take place.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-i-hope-joshua-wins-i-see-ruiz-doing-same-thing--144072

Fury wanted Joshua to win, however, he thinks that Ruiz will make it 2-0.

Of course, if Joshua win then it's going to be a mega fight between the two. But a Ruiz win will put them in collision course, and for me it will be a very easy fight for him because we all know that Fury has different tools, jabs and good defense that can overwhelm Ruiz.
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November 05, 2019, 09:14:48 AM
And when it comes to strength and speed, I would say Joshua has it but lacks stamina in long fights and Ruiz Jr are a combination of speed, strength, and stamina.

He just lost once against Ruiz, I think Joshua would not like that, he will still be more confident that he has all the skills needed to be champ again.
Both fighters are doing their best in the training for this fight and I am pretty sure because of that, they will be able to give a good fight.

But let's see this upcoming fight and I am very excited.

We will see who's gonna dominate but I would always love to place my bet on the underdog all day, I like him staying the way he is and he is confident to win the fight again, actually I don't need to listen to his words, his action is enough for me to believe that he will again knock joshua.

Right, who wouldn't love to put on the underdog here? I mean Ruiz already prove that in their previous fight and he can replicate it. And definitely everyone is excited to see this rematch, It's gonna be a game changing fight for this two, more so though on Anthony Joshua, pressure still on him and not on Andy Ruiz. If Ruiz losses this one, I think he can live with that and continue to fight. But for Joshua, it will be devastating.
The chance for Ruiz to replicate the same previous fight is tiny and I think he understand that which is why he trained a lot these days cause Anthony underestimated him then.
@d3nz, what do you mean by staying the way he's cause the fighter in subject have lost huge pounds.
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November 04, 2019, 07:41:33 PM
And when it comes to strength and speed, I would say Joshua has it but lacks stamina in long fights and Ruiz Jr are a combination of speed, strength, and stamina.

He just lost once against Ruiz, I think Joshua would not like that, he will still be more confident that he has all the skills needed to be champ again.
Both fighters are doing their best in the training for this fight and I am pretty sure because of that, they will be able to give a good fight.

But let's see this upcoming fight and I am very excited.

We will see who's gonna dominate but I would always love to place my bet on the underdog all day, I like him staying the way he is and he is confident to win the fight again, actually I don't need to listen to his words, his action is enough for me to believe that he will again knock joshua.

Right, who wouldn't love to put on the underdog here? I mean Ruiz already prove that in their previous fight and he can replicate it. And definitely everyone is excited to see this rematch, It's gonna be a game changing fight for this two, more so though on Anthony Joshua, pressure still on him and not on Andy Ruiz. If Ruiz losses this one, I think he can live with that and continue to fight. But for Joshua, it will be devastating.
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November 04, 2019, 07:15:18 PM
Correct, this is a must win for Joshua here, he had a lot of sponsors outside of boxing and making huge money as an endorser. If he losses this fight, then it's possible that those companies will pull out one by one so his golden days of making easy money will be over. And just by looking at the odds, he is still the favorite, meaning boxing fans believed that he can still salvage his career by winning big against Ruiz.

Ruiz will take all the sponsors, its alright for him to assume them, lol.

As much as Joshua wants to win this rematch, the other side are already enjoying being a champ so it will be a great fight as Ruiz will not juts easily give the belt back, this is also a great opportunity which could change his life if he can prove beating Joshua twice, with that said, I am supporting Ruiz here.

I just saw the odds and it looks like Ruiz Jr is still the underdog just like the last fight. I would say that this will be an exciting match and we don't know who will win. I already bet for Ruiz Jr and hoping he will defend the belt.

And when it comes to strength and speed, I would say Joshua has it but lacks stamina in long fights and Ruiz Jr are a combination of speed, strength, and stamina. But let's see this upcoming fight and I am very excited.
I also check the odds now either and it was still in favor of Anthony but Ruiz don't want to give the belt back as Ziskinberg said because hes doing everything possible, training hard these days and he have loose so much weight lately.
Meanwhile, you can't say Anthony lack stamina because he didn't study Ruiz fight before the match and Ruiz wasn't the person he ought to fight in the first place.
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November 04, 2019, 06:28:55 AM
And when it comes to strength and speed, I would say Joshua has it but lacks stamina in long fights and Ruiz Jr are a combination of speed, strength, and stamina.

He just lost once against Ruiz, I think Joshua would not like that, he will still be more confident that he has all the skills needed to be champ again.
Both fighters are doing their best in the training for this fight and I am pretty sure because of that, they will be able to give a good fight.

But let's see this upcoming fight and I am very excited.

We will see who's gonna dominate but I would always love to place my bet on the underdog all day, I like him staying the way he is and he is confident to win the fight again, actually I don't need to listen to his words, his action is enough for me to believe that he will again knock joshua.
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November 04, 2019, 03:09:18 AM
Correct, this is a must win for Joshua here, he had a lot of sponsors outside of boxing and making huge money as an endorser. If he losses this fight, then it's possible that those companies will pull out one by one so his golden days of making easy money will be over. And just by looking at the odds, he is still the favorite, meaning boxing fans believed that he can still salvage his career by winning big against Ruiz.

Ruiz will take all the sponsors, its alright for him to assume them, lol.

As much as Joshua wants to win this rematch, the other side are already enjoying being a champ so it will be a great fight as Ruiz will not juts easily give the belt back, this is also a great opportunity which could change his life if he can prove beating Joshua twice, with that said, I am supporting Ruiz here.

I just saw the odds and it looks like Ruiz Jr is still the underdog just like the last fight. I would say that this will be an exciting match and we don't know who will win. I already bet for Ruiz Jr and hoping he will defend the belt.

And when it comes to strength and speed, I would say Joshua has it but lacks stamina in long fights and Ruiz Jr are a combination of speed, strength, and stamina. But let's see this upcoming fight and I am very excited.
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November 03, 2019, 06:54:48 PM
Correct, this is a must win for Joshua here, he had a lot of sponsors outside of boxing and making huge money as an endorser. If he losses this fight, then it's possible that those companies will pull out one by one so his golden days of making easy money will be over. And just by looking at the odds, he is still the favorite, meaning boxing fans believed that he can still salvage his career by winning big against Ruiz.

Ruiz will take all the sponsors, its alright for him to assume them, lol.

As much as Joshua wants to win this rematch, the other side are already enjoying being a champ so it will be a great fight as Ruiz will not juts easily give the belt back, this is also a great opportunity which could change his life if he can prove beating Joshua twice, with that said, I am supporting Ruiz here.
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November 03, 2019, 06:39:07 PM
Again, lots of stake in this fight for both fighters, if Joshua win this one, then he has a chance to face the winner of Fury vs Wilder rematch, which has been in the talks until Ruiz derail that plan. But if Ruiz then definitely it will be an easy fight for either Fury and Wilder and I think both of them can defeat Ruiz easily.
There is a lot of stakes for Anthony Joshua to win the fight and i hope he will be prepared for this one if not his golden days of making easy money will be over, he was selling record tickets for all of his fights but the loss has dented his plans and hence this rematch is a must win for Anthony Joshua and if he losses this one then his selling power will be a big issue.

Correct, this is a must win for Joshua here, he had a lot of sponsors outside of boxing and making huge money as an endorser. If he losses this fight, then it's possible that those companies will pull out one by one so his golden days of making easy money will be over. And just by looking at the odds, he is still the favorite, meaning boxing fans believed that he can still salvage his career by winning big against Ruiz.
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November 03, 2019, 04:02:23 PM
Mate you are wrong. AJ and Eddeh were gunning for a Tyson Fury fight for the longest time since Tyson returned from retirement. But it is obvious that Fury needs more tune ups because he was out of his form. Wilder was supposed to be lucky by having a shot at an out of form Fury, but instead was schooled and salvaged a draw with a dramatic and controversial knockdown.
That's correct but is not because Tyson Fury needs more turn-ups as you said cause he actually embarked on the journey with the WWE against Braun Strowman but the reason why he didn't plan to fight Anthony was because of his loss to Ruiz and if Anthony win the next fight Tyson Fury will later fight Anthony as he said.

Sorry but it is either you haven't clearly read my comment or you obviously haven't followed boxing for a while. The tune ups I mentioned was after Tyson Fury announced his return to boxing after nearly three years of retirement/inactivity.

You guys need to stop worrying for Tyson Fury fighting Anthony Joshua. Andy Ruiz took AJ's soul already.     
I'm a boxing fan and I follow almost all the fighters you mention on Instagram so I only miss whats going on in the boxing if unable to check my Instagram account.
I misunderstand what you mean by turn up when you said because you don't explain it clearly. However, I don't see Ruiz taking Anthony cause Anthony don't feel bothered about his lost cause it long gone and what matters is their next fight.
Its impossible for us to think on that previous fight was already completely gone on AJ's side.I can rather say that he do made this
thing to be his motivation to beat him up on their rematch.Yeah the next match would be important but going back into the thing where
he committed loss because he was minding too much of future fights with other boxers is really a big mistake.
I'm not saying the previous was completely all gone on Anthony's side. What I'm trying to say is that he accept his mistakes, don't let it weigh him down and he's doing his best to learn and also correct it which his also the reason he's not bothered while he stay focus on what matters the most.
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November 03, 2019, 11:27:20 AM
Again, lots of stake in this fight for both fighters, if Joshua win this one, then he has a chance to face the winner of Fury vs Wilder rematch, which has been in the talks until Ruiz derail that plan. But if Ruiz then definitely it will be an easy fight for either Fury and Wilder and I think both of them can defeat Ruiz easily.
There is a lot of stakes for Anthony Joshua to win the fight and i hope he will be prepared for this one if not his golden days of making easy money will be over, he was selling record tickets for all of his fights but the loss has dented his plans and hence this rematch is a must win for Anthony Joshua and if he losses this one then his selling power will be a big issue.

I will vote for the biggest odds. Last time i voted Ruiz and and got a huge profit and for now i think joshua could win if he will not lose his stamina quickly. I hope joshua will have the biggest odd than ruiz but let's see.

But i'm all in with joshua that i think he will get his revenge.
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November 03, 2019, 10:40:56 AM
Mate you are wrong. AJ and Eddeh were gunning for a Tyson Fury fight for the longest time since Tyson returned from retirement. But it is obvious that Fury needs more tune ups because he was out of his form. Wilder was supposed to be lucky by having a shot at an out of form Fury, but instead was schooled and salvaged a draw with a dramatic and controversial knockdown.
That's correct but is not because Tyson Fury needs more turn-ups as you said cause he actually embarked on the journey with the WWE against Braun Strowman but the reason why he didn't plan to fight Anthony was because of his loss to Ruiz and if Anthony win the next fight Tyson Fury will later fight Anthony as he said.

Sorry but it is either you haven't clearly read my comment or you obviously haven't followed boxing for a while. The tune ups I mentioned was after Tyson Fury announced his return to boxing after nearly three years of retirement/inactivity.

You guys need to stop worrying for Tyson Fury fighting Anthony Joshua. Andy Ruiz took AJ's soul already.     
I'm a boxing fan and I follow almost all the fighters you mention on Instagram so I only miss whats going on in the boxing if unable to check my Instagram account.
I misunderstand what you mean by turn up when you said because you don't explain it clearly. However, I don't see Ruiz taking Anthony cause Anthony don't feel bothered about his lost cause it long gone and what matters is their next fight.
Its impossible for us to think on that previous fight was already completely gone on AJ's side.I can rather say that he do made this
thing to be his motivation to beat him up on their rematch.Yeah the next match would be important but going back into the thing where
he committed loss because he was minding too much of future fights with other boxers is really a big mistake.
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November 03, 2019, 10:14:37 AM
Mate you are wrong. AJ and Eddeh were gunning for a Tyson Fury fight for the longest time since Tyson returned from retirement. But it is obvious that Fury needs more tune ups because he was out of his form. Wilder was supposed to be lucky by having a shot at an out of form Fury, but instead was schooled and salvaged a draw with a dramatic and controversial knockdown.
That's correct but is not because Tyson Fury needs more turn-ups as you said cause he actually embarked on the journey with the WWE against Braun Strowman but the reason why he didn't plan to fight Anthony was because of his loss to Ruiz and if Anthony win the next fight Tyson Fury will later fight Anthony as he said.

Sorry but it is either you haven't clearly read my comment or you obviously haven't followed boxing for a while. The tune ups I mentioned was after Tyson Fury announced his return to boxing after nearly three years of retirement/inactivity.

You guys need to stop worrying for Tyson Fury fighting Anthony Joshua. Andy Ruiz took AJ's soul already.     
I'm a boxing fan and I follow almost all the fighters you mention on Instagram so I only miss whats going on in the boxing if unable to check my Instagram account.
I misunderstand what you mean by turn up when you said because you don't explain it clearly. However, I don't see Ruiz taking Anthony cause Anthony don't feel bothered about his lost cause it long gone and what matters is their next fight.
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November 01, 2019, 02:50:01 PM
Again, lots of stake in this fight for both fighters, if Joshua win this one, then he has a chance to face the winner of Fury vs Wilder rematch, which has been in the talks until Ruiz derail that plan. But if Ruiz then definitely it will be an easy fight for either Fury and Wilder and I think both of them can defeat Ruiz easily.
There is a lot of stakes for Anthony Joshua to win the fight and i hope he will be prepared for this one if not his golden days of making easy money will be over, he was selling record tickets for all of his fights but the loss has dented his plans and hence this rematch is a must win for Anthony Joshua and if he losses this one then his selling power will be a big issue.
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November 01, 2019, 12:24:03 PM
I would not say that AJ is underrated because of his lost to Ruiz.
Ruiz is underrated I guess, this is base on the betting odds, he was the champion and AJ now is the challenger but still he remains the underdog in this 2 fights. Odds does not matter at all, its just the opinion of the majority of people (that's how odds maker make the odds), what matters is my analysis and my belief that Ruiz has a big shot of beating AJ twice.
Each does have their own insights though and also to our favorites.Once you loss then its considered that the opponent is much better than you.
Some say that their last fight was a fluke but it isnt really actually yet AJ was just too careless yet he do mind up things which he plans in the future about
other fight on other boxer without even thinking or making himself safe in front of his opponent and now AJ becomes the challenger but i do also believe that he would able
to get it back but not would really be an easy job to do.
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November 01, 2019, 09:34:21 AM
I would not say that AJ is underrated because of his lost to Ruiz.
Ruiz is underrated I guess, this is base on the betting odds, he was the champion and AJ now is the challenger but still he remains the underdog in this 2 fights. Odds does not matter at all, its just the opinion of the majority of people (that's how odds maker make the odds), what matters is my analysis and my belief that Ruiz has a big shot of beating AJ twice.
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