Andy Ruiz vs Anthony Joshua II - page 8.

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Really looking forward to this, I’m expecting AJ to win quite comfortably. He looks a lot slimmer, he’s clearly lost weight in an attempt to be quicker I guess.

Assuming that he will use his height and reach advantage over Ruiz, he can pull off this one. He need also to be quicker in this match, that may be the reason why he is slimmer than before and avoid in-brawl early in the fight. That crispy jab must be the weapon of choice for AJ, effective and can file points for him.

Can't wait to see this fight and see how AJ will deal with Ruiz. Career defining fight for both of them.

Career defining for Ruiz and a chance for redemption for Joshua, the pressure is so high on Joshua now, because he must prove to critic that he is not a weak champion, I seldom saw a champion giving a fight and this is 4 title that he gave up, champions will fight to the death just to retain the title, only a knock out can take that away, but we have not seen that on Joshua.

Definitely because if Ruiz loss in this fight, expect that this will become a trilogy and still the pressure is on Joshua as he is always the favorites in this fight. They are really hyping this one and I feel that people starting to believe that Ruiz can beat AJ for the 2nd time around.

The odds of Ruiz is stable though he is a clear underdog but that's the right odds, can't wait for this one, really.

For those people who eye for AJ before their 1st match for sure would really have that kind of view that ruiz win was a fluke and so sure that on the rematch
he would able to beat up ruiz and claim back on whats for him. Possible trilogy? Yes, it could happen yet we know if the said fight would tie up 1-1 and if this would
continue to be hyped up then for sure it would proceed to the 3rd match up to prove out anything.We know that boxing is business and the more it is being hyped the more
money it could generate. lol

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Quote from: stadus on December 03, 2019, 06:59:03 AM

If you bet on AJ to win the fight whether through decision or KO, you will only get 1.44 odds, I think that's too cheap.

Maybe you'll consider betting on AJ to win via decision @ 5.40 because he might not be too confident in this fight trying to knock out the champ, maybe he will just use his length and consistently score throughout the 12 rounds.

AJ by decision @5.60, that's my bet. I'm also thinking that Joshua will just use his jab in this fight to win, which in the first fight is effective and might soften Ruiz in the later rounds. This might be a boring fight as i see Joshua will not slug it out with Ruiz. Jab, jab and clinch if Ruiz would go inside, that would be the game plan of AJ.

Right, this is so attractive to bet and I'm thinking that AJ would just wanted to get a win by decision if the KO is not presented to him. He might utilises in jab in this second fight to at least put Ruiz at bay and score points. Of course, AJ won't slug it out because he knows what happen to him in their first fight. Might used all this tools to defeat Ruiz by decision, and then talk for a trilogy.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on December 04, 2019, 02:38:18 AM

Really looking forward to this, I’m expecting AJ to win quite comfortably. He looks a lot slimmer, he’s clearly lost weight in an attempt to be quicker I guess.

Assuming that he will use his height and reach advantage over Ruiz, he can pull off this one. He need also to be quicker in this match, that may be the reason why he is slimmer than before and avoid in-brawl early in the fight. That crispy jab must be the weapon of choice for AJ, effective and can file points for him.

Can't wait to see this fight and see how AJ will deal with Ruiz. Career defining fight for both of them.

Career defining for Ruiz and a chance for redemption for Joshua, the pressure is so high on Joshua now, because he must prove to critic that he is not a weak champion, I seldom saw a champion giving a fight and this is 4 title that he gave up, champions will fight to the death just to retain the title, only a knock out can take that away, but we have not seen that on Joshua.

Definitely because if Ruiz loss in this fight, expect that this will become a trilogy and still the pressure is on Joshua as he is always the favorites in this fight. They are really hyping this one and I feel that people starting to believe that Ruiz can beat AJ for the 2nd time around.

The odds of Ruiz is stable though he is a clear underdog but that's the right odds, can't wait for this one, really.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on December 04, 2019, 02:38:18 AM

Really looking forward to this, I’m expecting AJ to win quite comfortably. He looks a lot slimmer, he’s clearly lost weight in an attempt to be quicker I guess.

Assuming that he will use his height and reach advantage over Ruiz, he can pull off this one. He need also to be quicker in this match, that may be the reason why he is slimmer than before and avoid in-brawl early in the fight. That crispy jab must be the weapon of choice for AJ, effective and can file points for him.

Can't wait to see this fight and see how AJ will deal with Ruiz. Career defining fight for both of them.

Career defining for Ruiz and a chance for redemption for Joshua, the pressure is so high on Joshua now, because he must prove to critic that he is not a weak champion, I seldom saw a champion giving a fight and this is 4 title that he gave up, champions will fight to the death just to retain the title, only a knock out can take that away, but we have not seen that on Joshua.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on December 04, 2019, 02:38:18 AM

Really looking forward to this, I’m expecting AJ to win quite comfortably. He looks a lot slimmer, he’s clearly lost weight in an attempt to be quicker I guess.

Assuming that he will use his height and reach advantage over Ruiz, he can pull off this one. He need also to be quicker in this match, that may be the reason why he is slimmer than before and avoid in-brawl early in the fight. That crispy jab must be the weapon of choice for AJ, effective and can file points for him.

Can't wait to see this fight and see how AJ will deal with Ruiz. Career defining fight for both of them.

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Really looking forward to this, I’m expecting AJ to win quite comfortably. He looks a lot slimmer, he’s clearly lost weight in an attempt to be quicker I guess.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on December 03, 2019, 10:25:10 PM

@posi. I am not certain if this is true, however, there were some stories that said Anthony Joshua had a panic attack during training and he also did not want to fight on that night. He did not underestimate Andy Ruiz. He was not ready.

He has a lot of fights and he's been to a lot of wars if he has a once of panic attack then he is in trouble, a good fighter is always ready to fight anywhere, all the time to any opponent and never give up and will fight to the death for his title, then this is not good maybe because he is in an unknown territories, like he is now fighting outside of UK.

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@posi. I am not certain if this is true, however, there were some stories that said Anthony Joshua had a panic attack during training and he also did not want to fight on that night. He did not underestimate Andy Ruiz. He was not ready.

In any case, ring girls are part of boxing culture. If the princes of Saudi Arabia do not like it, I reckon boxing should stay where the whole culture is welcome.

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Quote from: narcopop on December 03, 2019, 08:47:57 AM

Well then, that's interesting. Nor ring girls mean no ring emotions as well? What do you think? Wink

But being serious, as each day goes by and brings us closer to this fight, I have much more doubts about AJ-s performance. He's a fantastic athlete, one of the best of his generation but there's something magical in this American-Mexican podge. He has so much power, so much flex, so much swag.

When he destroyed AJ in June, I was totally shocked. Now i see chances even at 50/50.

No doubt that Ruiz is a good fighter but you shouldn't use the previous occasion to judge the new occasion where mistakes have been made and lesson have been learned. However, AJ lost the previous fight cause he underestimated Ruiz, he's also after finishing him quickly and Ruiz hard pouches caught him off guard. Mind you, he have already lost the fight when Ruiz hit straight punches and if you can watch again the previous fight clip you'll know I'm right.

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Quote from: stadus on December 03, 2019, 06:59:03 AM

If you bet on AJ to win the fight whether through decision or KO, you will only get 1.44 odds, I think that's too cheap.

Maybe you'll consider betting on AJ to win via decision @ 5.40 because he might not be too confident in this fight trying to knock out the champ, maybe he will just use his length and consistently score throughout the 12 rounds.

AJ by decision @5.60, that's my bet. I'm also thinking that Joshua will just use his jab in this fight to win, which in the first fight is effective and might soften Ruiz in the later rounds. This might be a boring fight as i see Joshua will not slug it out with Ruiz. Jab, jab and clinch if Ruiz would go inside, that would be the game plan of AJ.

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Quote from: mich on December 03, 2019, 01:57:51 PM

The Estimated Purses For Anthony Joshua Vs. Andy Ruiz 2 Fight Are Staggering

According to Chris McKenna of Daily Star Sports, Joshua is set to make upwards of $60 (USD) million for the rematch.
Ruiz’s guaranteed payday, aside from any endorsements he’s been able to secure, is believed to be $9 million.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2019/12/03/the-estimated-purses-for-anthony-joshua-vs-andy-ruiz-2-fight-are-staggering/#441e8f8e4c61

Well, it only shows that Joshua is still the A-side eventhough he has lost the first fight.

But for Ruiz though, this is already a huge payday for him. Not to take everything away from him, but with this huge money, I hope that he can still perform and deliver us a good fight and not just be a "one shot wonder".

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The Estimated Purses For Anthony Joshua Vs. Andy Ruiz 2 Fight Are Staggering

According to Chris McKenna of Daily Star Sports, Joshua is set to make upwards of $60 (USD) million for the rematch.
Ruiz’s guaranteed payday, aside from any endorsements he’s been able to secure, is believed to be $9 million.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2019/12/03/the-estimated-purses-for-anthony-joshua-vs-andy-ruiz-2-fight-are-staggering/#441e8f8e4c61

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 03, 2019, 10:17:46 AM

AJ was given a rematch because they have that clause in the first fight. That's why Ruiz have no choice but to follow what he had sign in the contract.

The promoters are smart enough to have all these clauses when putting up a fight they did the right decision to have a rematch because it is important for Anthony Joshua to win this fight and this is an important fight for his career and Anthony Joshua will be well prepared for this rematch and i expect to win this rematch.

Quote from: btc_angela on December 03, 2019, 10:17:46 AM

But I do agree that if AJ wins convincingly he should give Ruiz a chance for a trilogy. Andy already in Saudi he meet the Saudi Royal family and has media day.

Anthony Joshua should win the rematch and whether he will give Andy Ruiz a trilogy is yet to be seen as he is not an easy fight for anyone in the division.

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All these boxers and experts are all one in saying that the result will be same, Wilder, Fury they are all saying the same thing, it's really a big pressure for Joshua because people saw how he give up the fight, he do not have a big heart like all the champions that will fight to the death for the title, maybe a rematch is playing in his mind in their first match, the pressure really is huge for Joshua i hope he can carry it.

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Let this rematch would be the final judgement if he deserve on what hes trying to prove.I would say that this wont be an easy fight for AJ even he do think the opposite.

If Andy Ruiz win the rematch then there is no point in having a trilogy and the promoters and the coaching staff of Anthony Joshua will be doing their best to prepare him to keep on winning as he is a big cash cow in the UK and if he needs to earn money like he used to do in the past he needs to win this rematch somehow and i am expecting a better prepared Anthony Joshua and i am waiting for the fight and still the underdog is Ruiz even though he won the first fight convincingly.

Why not have a trilogy though? If the money is there in the table, they why not?

If Joshua wins then if will be 1-1 and a final fight is needed to happen in order to settle everything. Just a matter of days now, and I'm sure boxing fans are eagerly awaiting and excited to watch this fight.

Surely there will be a trilogy, Ruiz before the fight number 1 was just an ordinary boxer, now he became a superstar, and even if AJ will beat him in this upcoming fight, for sure AJ would give what Ruiz gave to him, its'a another chance for fans to see them fight again provided AJ will win this rematch.

AJ was given a rematch because they have that clause in the first fight. That's why Ruiz have no choice but to follow what he had sign in the contract.

But I do agree that if AJ wins convincingly he should give Ruiz a chance for a trilogy. Andy already in Saudi he meet the Saudi Royal family and has media day.

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Guys, you should watch this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOXFH0f9kp4

I think Ruiz mentally more prepared than Joshua. On minutes 09:48, he believes that AJ quit the last match. What do you think?

Ruiz has the higher confidence in this rematch since he already stopped AJ on their first encounter. And this is an immediate rematch. AJ dared without a break nor tune ups which is very risky career wise. But I don't think AJ quit on their first encounter. It was the referee that stopped it.

Ruiz was confidence because he has beaten Anthony before and is thought is that he have seeing Anthony's all while Anthony is not well prepared for the fight which is the reason why he ask for an immediate rematch to prove the first fight was just a fluke. Like you said, it very risky to his career and this is what make this rematch very important to him.
@mu_enrico, interview are just for evaluation and it can't 100% justify the result of the rematch.

Of course there would such kind of reasoning that AJ isnt on his top form when they fought which these fluke sayings flying everywhere.

Let this rematch would be the final judgement if he deserve on what hes trying to prove.I would say that this wont be an easy fight for AJ even he do think the opposite.

Everybody knows that the rematch between the two fighter (Anthony and Ruiz) won't be an easy fight which is the reason why Ruiz took his time to train hard till the extent of loosing some few pounds and a lot of comment have been made about Ruiz weight lost that it will trigger his lost to Anthony during the rematch which I also believe.
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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on December 03, 2019, 08:57:37 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on December 02, 2019, 02:05:14 PM

Why not have a trilogy though? If the money is there in the table, they why not?

Usually a triology is interesting when two fighters are one and one in the win column and to know the ultimate winner a third fight is scheduled and if Andy Ruiz wins the second fight then what interest does it have from the audience when they know the result.

Quote from: btc_angela on December 02, 2019, 02:05:14 PM

If Joshua wins then if will be 1-1 and a final fight is needed to happen in order to settle everything. Just a matter of days now, and I'm sure boxing fans are eagerly awaiting and excited to watch this fight.

Everyone is waiting to see what happens in this fight as Anthony Joshua needs to win this fight to have a successful career in boxing and a loss here will halt his career.

Could only happen if Joshua wins by decision or by knock out, I feel the pressure for Joshua because he is going to greatness until this fight happen, that loss was his first fight in America, and suddenly the hometown crowd is not within on that fight, he is used fighting at home and now for the second time he is not at home again, this fight will be either a road for redemption for him or a road for greatness for Ruiz, this is a must-win for him.

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 02, 2019, 02:05:14 PM

Why not have a trilogy though? If the money is there in the table, they why not?

Usually a triology is interesting when two fighters are one and one in the win column and to know the ultimate winner a third fight is scheduled and if Andy Ruiz wins the second fight then what interest does it have from the audience when they know the result.

Quote from: btc_angela on December 02, 2019, 02:05:14 PM

If Joshua wins then if will be 1-1 and a final fight is needed to happen in order to settle everything. Just a matter of days now, and I'm sure boxing fans are eagerly awaiting and excited to watch this fight.

Everyone is waiting to see what happens in this fight as Anthony Joshua needs to win this fight to have a successful career in boxing and a loss here will halt his career.

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Well then, that's interesting. Nor ring girls mean no ring emotions as well? What do you think? Wink

But being serious, as each day goes by and brings us closer to this fight, I have much more doubts about AJ-s performance. He's a fantastic athlete, one of the best of his generation but there's something magical in this American-Mexican podge. He has so much power, so much flex, so much swag.

When he destroyed AJ in June, I was totally shocked. Now i see chances even at 50/50.

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Ruiz has the higher confidence in this rematch since he already stopped AJ on their first encounter. And this is an immediate rematch. AJ dared without a break nor tune ups which is very risky career wise. But I don't think AJ quit on their first encounter. It was the referee that stopped it.

Boxing is an art and Andy Ruiz got the better of Anthony Joshua in the first fight and there were reports that Anthony Joshua got knocked out in the gym while training for the Andy Ruiz fight and he was concussed coming into the main event and since it was his debut here in the US he was having panic attack in the back stage before coming to the ring and now he has a loss in his career and i am expecting him to fight better in this fight as it will be a career changing rematch and one more defeat will end the hype he created.

That first fight served as a wake up call for AJ to be not over confident and not over looked opponents. Ruiz is a substitute opponent for AJ since Miller failed the drug test, that may also be the reason why AJ is over confident that he could beat Ruiz.

The first few rounds of the fight belongs to Joshua, in the third round, that's where the misery begins for AJ when he's trying to go for the kill when Ruiz was knock down and he's the one being hit by that short and crispy punch that put him in the canvass. I could not say that Ruiz is superior in the first fight, it's just that AJ was careless. Anyways, if AJ would still lose this rematch, his boxing career is over.

But still i am betting for AJ to win this one.

And I thought the same thing, I thought back then it's just another fight and another paycheck for Joshua, but something happens, on this fight he should not only be motivated but also fast and strong, remember Ruiz is just a replacement, he really has no good preparation for that fight, what more if he is well prepared, so let's see.

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