Andy Ruiz vs Anthony Joshua II - page 13.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 31, 2019, 06:58:05 AM

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 30, 2019, 06:18:39 PM

But if Ruiz then definitely it will be an easy fight for either Fury and Wilder and I think both of them can defeat Ruiz easily.

I would agrees somehow. I mean Ruiz got a huge gap against Wilder or Fury. The height and reach advantage already tells a significant factor. However, I can't still get rid of my mind how Ruiz beat down a tall and masculine guy like Joshua. What I'm thinking is that if he able to do it on Joshua then it's not also impossible for him to do it on the other two. Once Ruiz break their guard and make a close contact, he might win of course. Let's see what would be the outcome Cheesy

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AJ was still underrated, he needs to prove again in the rematch against AJ that he can win, if he loss, his dream might be over to face the 2 top boxers in his division. He won by a major upset, so people are not convince since they believe AJ would dominate Ruiz in the first fight, it takes two fight for people to finally change their view.

I would not say that AJ is underrated because of his lost to Ruiz. Remember that he beat Wladimir Klitschko (although that time Wladimir Klitschko is already past his prime). That's why I think it is still favour AJ in this rematch. AJ just need to focus on Andy Ruiz in this rematch and not discuss about his potential fight with Wilder or Fury. In his first fight against Ruiz, he admitted that he was looking about his futures fight with the two and that cost him a lot because Ruiz defeated him.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 31, 2019, 06:58:05 AM

Quote from: NavI_027 on October 30, 2019, 06:51:23 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on October 30, 2019, 06:18:39 PM

But if Ruiz then definitely it will be an easy fight for either Fury and Wilder and I think both of them can defeat Ruiz easily.

I would agrees somehow. I mean Ruiz got a huge gap against Wilder or Fury. The height and reach advantage already tells a significant factor. However, I can't still get rid of my mind how Ruiz beat down a tall and masculine guy like Joshua. What I'm thinking is that if he able to do it on Joshua then it's not also impossible for him to do it on the other two. Once Ruiz break their guard and make a close contact, he might win of course. Let's see what would be the outcome Cheesy

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AJ was still underrated, he needs to prove again in the rematch against AJ that he can win, if he loss, his dream might be over to face the 2 top boxers in his division. He won by a major upset, so people are not convince since they believe AJ would dominate Ruiz in the first fight, it takes two fight for people to finally change their view.

And that is why this could be a redemption fight for Joshua to be in the discussions again if he win and KO Ruiz. And then the whole Fury vs AJ could be in the horizon or Wilder vs AJ, which ever comes first.

But if Joshua wins by a close UD their could be a third fight here and end everything in a trilogy. We don't know if there is a clause on something for a 3rd fight but it will be interesting to see if there is.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on October 30, 2019, 06:51:23 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on October 30, 2019, 06:18:39 PM

But if Ruiz then definitely it will be an easy fight for either Fury and Wilder and I think both of them can defeat Ruiz easily.

I would agrees somehow. I mean Ruiz got a huge gap against Wilder or Fury. The height and reach advantage already tells a significant factor. However, I can't still get rid of my mind how Ruiz beat down a tall and masculine guy like Joshua. What I'm thinking is that if he able to do it on Joshua then it's not also impossible for him to do it on the other two. Once Ruiz break their guard and make a close contact, he might win of course. Let's see what would be the outcome Cheesy

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AJ was still underrated, he needs to prove again in the rematch against AJ that he can win, if he loss, his dream might be over to face the 2 top boxers in his division. He won by a major upset, so people are not convince since they believe AJ would dominate Ruiz in the first fight, it takes two fight for people to finally change their view.

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 30, 2019, 06:18:39 PM

But if Ruiz then definitely it will be an easy fight for either Fury and Wilder and I think both of them can defeat Ruiz easily.

I would agrees somehow. I mean Ruiz got a huge gap against Wilder or Fury. The height and reach advantage already tells a significant factor. However, I can't still get rid of my mind how Ruiz beat down a tall and masculine guy like Joshua. What I'm thinking is that if he able to do it on Joshua then it's not also impossible for him to do it on the other two. Once Ruiz break their guard and make a close contact, he might win of course. Let's see what would be the outcome Cheesy

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Perhaps obvious to most of us Tyson Fury has pointed out that there is no chance of himself and Anthony Joshua ever fighting should the latter lose his December 7th world heavyweight title rematch against Andy Ruiz Jr.

https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-no-joshua-fight-if-he-loses-andy-ruiz--143821

Again, lots of stake in this fight for both fighters, if Joshua win this one, then he has a chance to face the winner of Fury vs Wilder rematch, which has been in the talks until Ruiz derail that plan. But if Ruiz then definitely it will be an easy fight for either Fury and Wilder and I think both of them can defeat Ruiz easily.

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Quote from: DarkDays on October 30, 2019, 03:28:14 PM

Anybody else seen the latest pictures of Andy Ruiz lol, he looks heavier than he did in the first fight with Joshua, despite apparently losing a ton of weight.

I think he's going to come in approximately the same weight as before, which probably isn't a bad thing since he'll need that insulation to take some of AJ's shots.

Maybe a bookie should put a prediction market on Ruiz's prefight weight? I'm betting 270

I've watched a clip of him in Youtube which I think was uploaded just last week and I have to disagree with you maybe "heavier" is not the right term use here since he clearly lost weight but he physically gained a lot of muscles at the same time. So maybe the right word is "swole" he might even have more muscle mass compared to AJ now. Keep in mind that Andy Ruiz still has about a month left and he really looks prepared physically he even mentioned in the interview that he still intends to lose another 10 lbs before the official weight in and that weight cut I think will be converted to a more endurance type of boxer for Andy Ruiz.

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Anybody else seen the latest pictures of Andy Ruiz lol, he looks heavier than he did in the first fight with Joshua, despite apparently losing a ton of weight.

I think he's going to come in approximately the same weight as before, which probably isn't a bad thing since he'll need that insulation to take some of AJ's shots.

Maybe a bookie should put a prediction market on Ruiz's prefight weight? I'm betting 270

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 30, 2019, 06:41:10 AM

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Mate you are wrong. AJ and Eddeh were gunning for a Tyson Fury fight for the longest time since Tyson returned from retirement. But it is obvious that Fury needs more tune ups because he was out of his form. Wilder was supposed to be lucky by having a shot at an out of form Fury, but instead was schooled and salvaged a draw with a dramatic and controversial knockdown.

That's correct but is not because Tyson Fury needs more turn-ups as you said cause he actually embarked on the journey with the WWE against Braun Strowman but the reason why he didn't plan to fight Anthony was because of his loss to Ruiz and if Anthony win the next fight Tyson Fury will later fight Anthony as he said.

Sorry but it is either you haven't clearly read my comment or you obviously haven't followed boxing for a while. The tune ups I mentioned was after Tyson Fury announced his return to boxing after nearly three years of retirement/inactivity.

You guys need to stop worrying for Tyson Fury fighting Anthony Joshua. Andy Ruiz took AJ's soul already.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on October 28, 2019, 02:19:51 AM

Quote from: uray on October 27, 2019, 09:12:58 AM

Tyson Fury has nothing to do with the fight but it is true that Anthony Joshua and his management was avoiding him for a long time.

Mate you are wrong. AJ and Eddeh were gunning for a Tyson Fury fight for the longest time since Tyson returned from retirement. But it is obvious that Fury needs more tune ups because he was out of his form. Wilder was supposed to be lucky by having a shot at an out of form Fury, but instead was schooled and salvaged a draw with a dramatic and controversial knockdown.

That's correct but is not because Tyson Fury needs more turn-ups as you said cause he actually embarked on the journey with the WWE against Braun Strowman but the reason why he didn't plan to fight Anthony was because of his loss to Ruiz and if Anthony win the next fight Tyson Fury will later fight Anthony as he said.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on October 27, 2019, 03:28:44 AM

Tyson has nothing to do with this fight let's focus on this one,

I think there is not yet a general boxing thread here so I can understand people talking other fighters but still inter connected like Tyson Fury.

Quote from: uray on October 27, 2019, 09:12:58 AM

Tyson Fury has nothing to do with the fight but it is true that Anthony Joshua and his management was avoiding him for a long time.

Mate you are wrong. AJ and Eddeh were gunning for a Tyson Fury fight for the longest time since Tyson returned from retirement. But it is obvious that Fury needs more tune ups because he was out of his form. Wilder was supposed to be lucky by having a shot at an out of form Fury, but instead was schooled and salvaged a draw with a dramatic and controversial knockdown.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on October 27, 2019, 03:28:44 AM

Tyson has nothing to do with this fight let's focus on this one,

Tyson Fury has nothing to do with the fight but it is true that Anthony Joshua and his management was avoiding him for a long time.

Quote from: fortunecrypto on October 27, 2019, 03:28:44 AM

why it's exciting we have seen a different fight on their first fight and so we have two hungry fighters one who wants to prove it's not a fluke the other who wants to prove it's not, so we have two hungry fighters, Tyson will have his time to anyone of the two, but right now it's Joshua and Ruiz.

Anyone who watched the first fight knows it was not fluke knockout and Anthony Joshua did not have an answer for the punches and he quit without any answer and hence you cannot call it a fluke as Andy Ruiz was far superior in the first fight and in the second fight we will see whether AJ can stand with the elite fighters.

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Quote from: notblox1 on October 26, 2019, 09:55:47 PM

Ruiz and Anthony Joshua can fight all they want... but they can not get even near Tyson Fury.
He is better fighter in and out of ring tan both of them.
Joshua is still avoiding him, and that is hilarious Grin

Tyson has nothing to do with this fight let's focus on this one, why it's exciting we have seen a different fight on their first fight and so we have two hungry fighters one who wants to prove it's not a fluke the other who wants to prove it's not, so we have two hungry fighters, Tyson will have his time to anyone of the two, but right now it's Joshua and Ruiz.

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Quote from: notblox1 on October 26, 2019, 09:55:47 PM

Ruiz and Anthony Joshua can fight all they want... but they can not get even near Tyson Fury.
He is better fighter in and out of ring tan both of them.
Joshua is still avoiding him, and that is hilarious Grin

It probably a deep breath for them if they want to fight Tyson, but they don't cause they don't have a match for him. Tyson Fury has a name already on his boxing career, but these two guys Ruiz and Joshua tried to build their reputation and to prove whos gonna be the beast. How'd a big thrill to come since both of them getting hot and trained hard but as the result of their first fight might able to see still the same?

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Quote from: Kemarit on October 26, 2019, 06:14:04 PM

To be Joshua has moved on after his first lost against Ruiz that's why he immediately call a rematch and he knows what he did wrong in the first fight. While Andy Ruiz changes his body composition to make him fast, but Joshua will come prepared here. We can't really wait for this fight to happen.

No doubt it will be an interesting rematch as this will determine whether Anthony Joshua can overcome the technical hurdles any fighter who loses think that they have the answer after making some changes and lets see whether he can really make those changes.

Quote from: notblox1 on October 26, 2019, 09:55:47 PM

Ruiz and Anthony Joshua can fight all they want... but they can not get even near Tyson Fury.
He is better fighter in and out of ring tan both of them.
Joshua is still avoiding him, and that is hilarious Grin

Anthony Joshua was making a ton of money without even fighting the elite fighters and the mistake he did was to select Andy Ruiz for his US debut. Tyson Fury is the best boxer right now even with his crazy life style.

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Ruiz and Anthony Joshua can fight all they want... but they can not get even near Tyson Fury.
He is better fighter in and out of ring tan both of them.
Joshua is still avoiding him, and that is hilarious Grin

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Quote from: uray on October 26, 2019, 10:50:36 AM

Quote from: samputin on October 26, 2019, 04:39:09 AM

OMG! For me Ruiz looks got a better shape today compare to his previous one during his preparation against Joshua. He is now more of a bulky man instead of fatty (does it makes sense? I guess it does lol). The only thing I'm concerned about is on his lower body. His legs are thin and looks not proportioned to his upper body, what do you guys think?

The main uncertainty is the change in body shape as i have not seen any drastic change like Andy Ruiz in any world champion in the past and how this translate to his in ring performance is yet to be seen and hence it is an interesting fight for the fans as everyone is looking forward on how Anthony Joshua will handle the situation after a loss. I am not betting in this fight rather planning to enjoy the fight.

Good argument. I also haven't seen any fighter who has lost so much body weight in a fight and was able to maintain his power. So it remains to be seen if Ruiz can still whoop Joshua's ass in this rematch. To be Joshua has moved on after his first lost against Ruiz that's why he immediately call a rematch and he knows what he did wrong in the first fight. While Andy Ruiz changes his body composition to make him fast, but Joshua will come prepared here. We can't really wait for this fight to happen.

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Quote from: samputin on October 26, 2019, 04:39:09 AM

OMG! For me Ruiz looks got a better shape today compare to his previous one during his preparation against Joshua. He is now more of a bulky man instead of fatty (does it makes sense? I guess it does lol). The only thing I'm concerned about is on his lower body. His legs are thin and looks not proportioned to his upper body, what do you guys think?

The main uncertainty is the change in body shape as i have not seen any drastic change like Andy Ruiz in any world champion in the past and how this translate to his in ring performance is yet to be seen and hence it is an interesting fight for the fans as everyone is looking forward on how Anthony Joshua will handle the situation after a loss. I am not betting in this fight rather planning to enjoy the fight.

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For Joshua

He doesn't want the fight like a continuation of what happens in their last fight, the best that he wants now is to adjust and employ a different kind of tactics, he never used to fight a guy who moves fast and throws a lot of combination, he should expect Ruiz to throw everything but the kitchen sink, and his trainers are training him to expect that and make adjustment.

For Ruiz
Ruiz should be aware that Joshua is fighting sparring partners who are built are like him, he should prepare for a counter punch as he throws and moving forward.

Joshua has a reach and height advantage and he will make the most of it, something that he never did in their first fight.

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Oh i love this work out by the way: https://www.facebook.com/boxingexposure/videos/408001270119823/ This wont be an easy one for Joshua.

OMG! For me Ruiz looks got a better shape today compare to his previous one during his preparation against Joshua. He is now more of a bulky man instead of fatty (does it makes sense? I guess it does lol). The only thing I'm concerned about is on his lower body. His legs are thin and looks not proportioned to his upper body, what do you guys think?

For sure they wont really that flaw to come out and they would balance everything from head to toe.You cant make up solid punches if your weight isnt really that proportional.
They are already preparing on the upcoming fight and im even surprised on what has changed with ruiz seen on the video.Even those simple swings looks do solid even on a workout mode.

I think I will be more convince that I will bet on Ruiz now, I will get 3.15 if Ruiz will win which I really think he can prove himself against Joshua.
His built was change a bit, but that power still remains, this is an exciting fight for sure and I would not focus more on his looks or his body because I might miss that he is a special boxer which despite being a champ is still underrated.

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Quote from: samputin on October 26, 2019, 04:39:09 AM

Quote from: stomachgrowls on October 23, 2019, 04:01:30 PM

Oh i love this work out by the way: https://www.facebook.com/boxingexposure/videos/408001270119823/ This wont be an easy one for Joshua.

OMG! For me Ruiz looks got a better shape today compare to his previous one during his preparation against Joshua. He is now more of a bulky man instead of fatty (does it makes sense? I guess it does lol). The only thing I'm concerned about is on his lower body. His legs are thin and looks not proportioned to his upper body, what do you guys think?

For sure they wont really that flaw to come out and they would balance everything from head to toe.You cant make up solid punches if your weight isnt really that proportional.
They are already preparing on the upcoming fight and im even surprised on what has changed with ruiz seen on the video.Even those simple swings looks do solid even on a workout mode.

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