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legendary
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December 08, 2019, 07:12:06 AM
It is too early to predict on what will happen on the second rematch, if there is. There might be but it will not be on top of the priority list immediately right after this match. There are a handful of other prospects in line for the next fights of both AJ and Ruiz. The name of Usyk has already been mentioned this early. But I doubt it will push through as a done deal right now. There is of course the sweeter potential battle of AJ and whoever will win between Fury and Wilder.
You mean a third match? One thing I notice on between the rematch and the first match, I can see a more prepared, focused and smarter Anthony Joshua. He chose not to slug it out with Andy Ruiz as Andy Ruiz might get lucky again just like what happened on the first match. If there will be a third match, I don't see a reason why there will be a difference again or it will be a deja vu of the first match.

Yeah, a third match. What had just taken place was the first rematch. I have yet to see the whole fight, although I don't feel like watching it because of the UD result. The comments are enough to figure out what had transpired in that battle. I lost my bet this time. Obviously, AJ has shown that he can maintain the pace a 12-round fight. I suppose he was able to keep the distance and brilliantly managed to keep the hard punches of the short-ranged Ruiz at bay. This is what I believed AJ should have done in their first battle. He finally executed it now by not desiring to put Ruiz down. That must have been one of his faults in their earlier match.   
legendary
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December 08, 2019, 06:10:00 AM
A third one would be deviating from the Joshua master plan. They have him out of the way. Why would they want another visit?
There is no doubt that Andy Ruiz changed the master plan of Anthony Joshua when he defeated him in the first fight but he showed his skills in the rematch and Ruiz was not able to do anything in this fight and it was a masterclass from Anthony Joshua and he silenced his haters with a win here, he did not win by knockout but he won by showing his exemplary boxing skills till the end and rectified his mistakes from the first fight and we might see a trilogy.
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December 08, 2019, 05:56:47 AM
Congratulations to AJ for proving easily dominating the champ.

With what I saw, I think it's not wise to still see a trilogy of this fight as the 2nd fast was pretty convincing already, AJ dominated Ruiz with a great strategy to win, he uses his quickness and height reach and height advantage and that's it, overall, it wasn't the kind of fight I was expecting, no knock out is kind of a boring fight.
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December 08, 2019, 05:34:38 AM
It is too early to predict on what will happen on the second rematch, if there is. There might be but it will not be on top of the priority list immediately right after this match. There are a handful of other prospects in line for the next fights of both AJ and Ruiz. The name of Usyk has already been mentioned this early. But I doubt it will push through as a done deal right now. There is of course the sweeter potential battle of AJ and whoever will win between Fury and Wilder.
You mean a third match? One thing I notice on between the rematch and the first match, I can see a more prepared, focused and smarter Anthony Joshua. He chose not to slug it out with Andy Ruiz as Andy Ruiz might get lucky again just like what happened on the first match. If there will be a third match, I don't see a reason why there will be a difference again or it will be a deja vu of the first match.
legendary
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December 08, 2019, 05:15:17 AM
Because a Joshua win means an unsettled debate as to who is really the stronger fighter between the two of them. A Ruiz win will only be the way for Joshua not to meet this fat guy once again, at least any time soon. But if he wins, that would make the equation 1 is to 1, and that means there has to be a tie breaker, and that would be a third rematch.
But do you think having a 2nd rematch is a good idea? I mean, do you think the audience will still find it an interesting fight? I don't think so. I'm a fan of AJ but after I saw Ruiz how he cleanly and fairly beat him, I think there's nothing wrong if we give the respect he deserved. I hope Ruiz, though he seems less fit this time, able to beat AJ once again. I'm already bored with their drama, I want to move on and focused on prospective bigger fights like Wilder vs Fury II Smiley.



We should move on, the match is clearly won by Joshua and if there's a third rematch I don't think we will have the a different results, Joshua has calculated Ruiz precisely, it's time for Joshua to look for a new big opponent and the winner in the Wilder - Fury should should be the one mandatory opponent, it's time for the best fighter to only fight the best.

It is too early to predict on what will happen on the second rematch, if there is. There might be but it will not be on top of the priority list immediately right after this match. There are a handful of other prospects in line for the next fights of both AJ and Ruiz. The name of Usyk has already been mentioned this early. But I doubt it will push through as a done deal right now. There is of course the sweeter potential battle of AJ and whoever will win between Fury and Wilder.
legendary
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December 08, 2019, 02:53:46 AM
Not to burst Anthony Joshua's win, but the WBO president Paco Valcarcel has said that Joshua will have to face the mandatory next, Oleksandr Usyk in 180 days.

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https://twitter.com/PacoValcarcel/status/1203438265271017473

I do not think this is a right decision by Paco Valcarcel to call it mandatory. So based on this the next fight of him will be against the Alexander Usyk in about 180 days. So what will be the fate of third fight between Ruiz and Joshua ? Any official verdict on it ?

Well being the President of the the WBO, one of the belts (governing body) that Joshua's held right now, he doesn't have any options but to abide with the mandatory fight. However, they can pay step aside money, if Joshua and Ruiz wanted a third fight.

As I have said two pages ago, Joshua will used his jab and will not go for a knock out here, which he eventually did. Wasn't able to watch the fight live as well because of time difference, just seen some highlights. And it looks like Ruiz wasn't prepared for a quick feet Joshua and has problems because of his added weight.
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December 08, 2019, 12:46:58 AM
Because a Joshua win means an unsettled debate as to who is really the stronger fighter between the two of them.
Clearly, the Fat Ruiz is stronger than AJ, but it doesn't matter if he can't reach AJ with all that fat power Grin
In the first fight, AJ wanted to put a show and risked his belt for the audience's amusement. But he shouldn't do that. He could outbox Ruiz like the 2nd fight and won the match fairly easy without a scratch.
legendary
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December 08, 2019, 12:24:19 AM
Because a Joshua win means an unsettled debate as to who is really the stronger fighter between the two of them. A Ruiz win will only be the way for Joshua not to meet this fat guy once again, at least any time soon. But if he wins, that would make the equation 1 is to 1, and that means there has to be a tie breaker, and that would be a third rematch.
But do you think having a 2nd rematch is a good idea? I mean, do you think the audience will still find it an interesting fight? I don't think so. I'm a fan of AJ but after I saw Ruiz how he cleanly and fairly beat him, I think there's nothing wrong if we give the respect he deserved. I hope Ruiz, though he seems less fit this time, able to beat AJ once again. I'm already bored with their drama, I want to move on and focused on prospective bigger fights like Wilder vs Fury II Smiley.



We should move on, the match is clearly won by Joshua and if there's a third rematch I don't think we will have the a different results, Joshua has calculated Ruiz precisely, it's time for Joshua to look for a new big opponent and the winner in the Wilder - Fury should should be the one mandatory opponent, it's time for the best fighter to only fight the best.
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December 07, 2019, 11:02:33 PM
Because a Joshua win means an unsettled debate as to who is really the stronger fighter between the two of them. A Ruiz win will only be the way for Joshua not to meet this fat guy once again, at least any time soon. But if he wins, that would make the equation 1 is to 1, and that means there has to be a tie breaker, and that would be a third rematch.
But do you think having a 2nd rematch is a good idea? I mean, do you think the audience will still find it an interesting fight? I don't think so. I'm a fan of AJ but after I saw Ruiz how he cleanly and fairly beat him, I think there's nothing wrong if we give the respect he deserved. I hope Ruiz, though he seems less fit this time, able to beat AJ once again. I'm already bored with their drama, I want to move on and focused on prospective bigger fights like Wilder vs Fury II Smiley.

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December 07, 2019, 11:01:30 PM
Not to burst Anthony Joshua's win, but the WBO president Paco Valcarcel has said that Joshua will have to face the mandatory next, Oleksandr Usyk in 180 days.



https://twitter.com/PacoValcarcel/status/1203438265271017473

I do not think this is a right decision by Paco Valcarcel to call it mandatory. So based on this the next fight of him will be against the Alexander Usyk in about 180 days. So what will be the fate of third fight between Ruiz and Joshua ? Any official verdict on it ?
legendary
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December 07, 2019, 10:40:32 PM
Not to burst Anthony Joshua's win, but the WBO president Paco Valcarcel has said that Joshua will have to face the mandatory next, Oleksandr Usyk in 180 days.



https://twitter.com/PacoValcarcel/status/1203438265271017473
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December 07, 2019, 10:38:22 PM
Part III is always possible and I don't know if the results will be altered if Ruiz will truly prepare on this one. Because aside from gaining weight, he claimed that he's not really prepared for this fight.

That seems plain bizarre to me. He must be aware that the first fight was regarded as a blip by others. The second fight should've been him confirming that it wasn't. He should've gone all out.

A third one would be deviating from the Joshua master plan. They have him out of the way. Why would they want another visit?

Because a Joshua win means an unsettled debate as to who is really the stronger fighter between the two of them. A Ruiz win will only be the way for Joshua not to meet this fat guy once again, at least any time soon. But if he wins, that would make the equation 1 is to 1, and that means there has to be a tie breaker, and that would be a third rematch.
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December 07, 2019, 10:35:33 PM
I missed this match due to time zone difference but got this link which contains the full highlights of the match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3DE0XKWWnk

Also the post match interview is not to be missed where Andy demanded the third match to declare a clear winner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnuWA-jBOrU
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December 07, 2019, 10:27:45 PM
Congratulations to Joshua for a well deserve performance he fought intelligently, Ruiz is asking for a rematch but I don't it should happen soon, Joshua already studied his style and how he will fight him intelligently, it could have been different if the fight is a split decision, a fight with Wilder or Fury is what will generate interest like this one.

Anthony Joshua was better of the two boxers and deserved this win. Andy Ruiz was never going to win the match specially when he made the statement before the start of match that he have gain 15 pounds weight one day before the match. Such lames excuses will not take anything away from Joshua as he was a clear winner.


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December 07, 2019, 09:43:10 PM
AJ gives up a boxing clinic here, he masterfully shows that he still has it to get back his belt from Ruiz. Game plan was perfect from the first round, go around in circles, used his jabs, don't let Ruiz corner him, resulting in a decision for AJ.

And with that strategy, Ruiz was frustrated as he can't get inside and used his power, because of AJ's superior technique. For me, a trilogy is open, let Wilder vs Fury II fight and AJ finishing Andy Ruiz for all the glory and marbles.

Part III is always possible and I don't know if the results will be altered if Ruiz will truly prepare on this one. Because aside from gaining weight, he claimed that he's not really prepared for this fight.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/anthony-joshua-outpoints-andy-ruiz-jr-to-reclaim-unified-heavyweight-titles-in-saudi-arabia/

Joshua on the other hand, really did prepare on this one. That is to reclaim his belt and of course to prove that he has still the power. If both camps will have do their rigorous training, what do you think would the outcome will be? Part III???

Part III is possible, that is, if the money in the table is huge that both camp can't refuse it.

For Anthony, having this trilogy and winning it will cement his status and proved that his lost in the first fight was a fluke.

For Ruiz, to proved that he is not a one hit wonder, and his name could be in the discussions as one of the best heavy's that we have right now, Fury, Wilder and Joshua are the big three.
Another rematch is possible, in the end of the fight Andy Ruiz interrupts the interview of Anthony Joshua and he says to the audience "who wants to see the 3rd fight". I know that the both team will prepare on the upcoming rematch and for me it will be the revenge of Andy Ruiz. Both of the fighters are willing to win and I know that they will both work hard to be prepared in their 3rd match.
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December 07, 2019, 08:11:33 PM
AJ gives up a boxing clinic here, he masterfully shows that he still has it to get back his belt from Ruiz. Game plan was perfect from the first round, go around in circles, used his jabs, don't let Ruiz corner him, resulting in a decision for AJ.

And with that strategy, Ruiz was frustrated as he can't get inside and used his power, because of AJ's superior technique. For me, a trilogy is open, let Wilder vs Fury II fight and AJ finishing Andy Ruiz for all the glory and marbles.

Part III is always possible and I don't know if the results will be altered if Ruiz will truly prepare on this one. Because aside from gaining weight, he claimed that he's not really prepared for this fight.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/anthony-joshua-outpoints-andy-ruiz-jr-to-reclaim-unified-heavyweight-titles-in-saudi-arabia/

Joshua on the other hand, really did prepare on this one. That is to reclaim his belt and of course to prove that he has still the power. If both camps will have do their rigorous training, what do you think would the outcome will be? Part III???

Part III is possible, that is, if the money in the table is huge that both camp can't refuse it.

For Anthony, having this trilogy and winning it will cement his status and proved that his lost in the first fight was a fluke.

For Ruiz, to proved that he is not a one hit wonder, and his name could be in the discussions as one of the best heavy's that we have right now, Fury, Wilder and Joshua are the big three.
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December 07, 2019, 07:46:07 PM
Part III is always possible and I don't know if the results will be altered if Ruiz will truly prepare on this one. Because aside from gaining weight, he claimed that he's not really prepared for this fight.

That seems plain bizarre to me. He must be aware that the first fight was regarded as a blip by others. The second fight should've been him confirming that it wasn't. He should've gone all out.

A third one would be deviating from the Joshua master plan. They have him out of the way. Why would they want another visit?
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December 07, 2019, 07:42:34 PM
AJ gives up a boxing clinic here, he masterfully shows that he still has it to get back his belt from Ruiz. Game plan was perfect from the first round, go around in circles, used his jabs, don't let Ruiz corner him, resulting in a decision for AJ.

And with that strategy, Ruiz was frustrated as he can't get inside and used his power, because of AJ's superior technique. For me, a trilogy is open, let Wilder vs Fury II fight and AJ finishing Andy Ruiz for all the glory and marbles.

Part III is always possible and I don't know if the results will be altered if Ruiz will truly prepare on this one. Because aside from gaining weight, he claimed that he's not really prepared for this fight.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/anthony-joshua-outpoints-andy-ruiz-jr-to-reclaim-unified-heavyweight-titles-in-saudi-arabia/

Joshua on the other hand, really did prepare on this one. That is to reclaim his belt and of course to prove that he has still the power. If both camps will have do their rigorous training, what do you think would the outcome will be? Part III???
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December 07, 2019, 07:17:04 PM
AJ gives up a boxing clinic here, he masterfully shows that he still has it to get back his belt from Ruiz. Game plan was perfect from the first round, go around in circles, used his jabs, don't let Ruiz corner him, resulting in a decision for AJ.

And with that strategy, Ruiz was frustrated as he can't get inside and used his power, because of AJ's superior technique. For me, a trilogy is open, let Wilder vs Fury II fight and AJ finishing Andy Ruiz for all the glory and marbles.
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December 07, 2019, 07:13:53 PM
Congratulations to Joshua for a well deserve performance he fought intelligently, Ruiz is asking for a rematch but I don't it should happen soon, Joshua already studied his style and how he will fight him intelligently, it could have been different if the fight is a split decision, a fight with Wilder or Fury is what will generate interest like this one.
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