[ANN] Biotron.io Announcement - Transparent personal data analytics platform - page 96.

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Quote from: Makkara on March 03, 2018, 07:56:42 AM

Quote from: mandibleclaw on March 03, 2018, 07:48:27 AM

Right now Ethereum blockchain isn't just fast enough, many devs will port their dapps into EOS (fast and zero fees), Ark(fast and interoperability) and Waves (fast and exchange built in), mark my words because it's gonna happen

it depends if they are able to improve the situation on the ethereum network, it seems they are working on it

If bitcoin dominance can also be defeated by other better coins, then i can expect that.
But for now, i cant imagine it will happen.

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Quote from: mandibleclaw on March 03, 2018, 07:48:27 AM

Right now Ethereum blockchain isn't just fast enough, many devs will port their dapps into EOS (fast and zero fees), Ark(fast and interoperability) and Waves (fast and exchange built in), mark my words because it's gonna happen

it depends if they are able to improve the situation on the ethereum network, it seems they are working on it

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Right now Ethereum blockchain isn't just fast enough, many devs will port their dapps into EOS (fast and zero fees), Ark(fast and interoperability) and Waves (fast and exchange built in), mark my words because it's gonna happen

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Quote from: loup on March 03, 2018, 07:01:33 AM

Quote from: king_of_alts on March 03, 2018, 05:47:49 AM

Quote from: magisterr on March 03, 2018, 05:43:37 AM

Quote from: martinholly167 on March 03, 2018, 03:44:16 AM

Quote from: viljy on March 03, 2018, 03:30:01 AM

Quote from: magisterr on March 02, 2018, 09:13:51 PM

What this mean “User Acquisition” token pool? How this pool will be used? This will be airdrops for tokens holders or...?

No. This is different. Among investors, these unsold tokens will not be distributed. This is the difference from Sophia. I already asked the same question, although they did not answer it. At the moment, the following conclusions can be drawn from the developers' answers and from whitepaper:
They did not decide whether they will have their own blockchain or they will work on the Ethereum blockchain. I think that there will be a second option, since this is simpler.
The bounty decision has not yet been made, so this "User Acquisition", which is 25%, can be used for bounty or even for airdrop. Since this is the only way to acquire users and expand the client base. Given that all unsold tokens will be shipped there, it will be a very large volume, much more than 25%.

So surely there will be bounty or airdrop? 25% is very big.

Simpler not means better. Own blockchain always better. Everyone can create ERC tokens. And a thousands of project with erc tokens. I prefer own blockhain always. Own coins always growing much better and have much more value. When they will decided about this? Huh

The question however is do they need their own blockchain? You could argue that the big Ethereum chain is as safe as possible while a new blockchain would have to fear 51% attacks for example.

It's an important point of the project and I think they should define it from the beginning. I think it's better to have their own blockchain, although I imagine that it means more work.

if you make your own blockchain you can optimize it for the particular usage you are going to do. otherwise generally speaking everything described in this project could already happen using smart contract in the ethereum blockchain

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Quote from: king_of_alts on March 03, 2018, 05:47:49 AM

Quote from: magisterr on March 03, 2018, 05:43:37 AM

Quote from: martinholly167 on March 03, 2018, 03:44:16 AM

Quote from: viljy on March 03, 2018, 03:30:01 AM

Quote from: magisterr on March 02, 2018, 09:13:51 PM

What this mean “User Acquisition” token pool? How this pool will be used? This will be airdrops for tokens holders or...?

No. This is different. Among investors, these unsold tokens will not be distributed. This is the difference from Sophia. I already asked the same question, although they did not answer it. At the moment, the following conclusions can be drawn from the developers' answers and from whitepaper:
They did not decide whether they will have their own blockchain or they will work on the Ethereum blockchain. I think that there will be a second option, since this is simpler.
The bounty decision has not yet been made, so this "User Acquisition", which is 25%, can be used for bounty or even for airdrop. Since this is the only way to acquire users and expand the client base. Given that all unsold tokens will be shipped there, it will be a very large volume, much more than 25%.

So surely there will be bounty or airdrop? 25% is very big.

Simpler not means better. Own blockchain always better. Everyone can create ERC tokens. And a thousands of project with erc tokens. I prefer own blockhain always. Own coins always growing much better and have much more value. When they will decided about this? Huh

The question however is do they need their own blockchain? You could argue that the big Ethereum chain is as safe as possible while a new blockchain would have to fear 51% attacks for example.

It's an important point of the project and I think they should define it from the beginning. I think it's better to have their own blockchain, although I imagine that it means more work.

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Hello Biotron.io I don't know if you're ignoring my question or you just forget about it, so here we go again: there's a plan to deploy an Ark's bridgechain since you mention Ark in the whitepaper?

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Quote from: Genesis07 on March 02, 2018, 03:42:21 AM

@biotron

will there be a bounty?

i really would like to translate everything into german

maybe lejtr

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I have another question. The roadmap mentions both "Public ITE & Proof of concept" for march 2018. Will the proof of concept be released before the public ITE? So people can base their decision to invest on more then just the whitepaper and current information at hand. Also, if you could, how extensive of a proof of concept can we expect?

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Quote from: beeelzebub on March 02, 2018, 03:13:21 AM

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Quote from: magisterr on March 01, 2018, 09:35:44 AM

As i understand you will have own blockchain? But at first this will be ERC20 tokens (which you will disrtibuted April 1st) ?

We are still finalising the decision between two possibilities, to either build own network or just have an issuable asset on top of another blockchain network.
Distribution will be 2nd of April. Look to our updated WP on our Biotron.io

Actually it is not a decision you should announce on the last minute.

It is a critical thing and people would make investment decisions on this.

Thank you for your opinion. We are working hard to finalize this decision. Stay tuned. We will not rush this as it is crucial decision and a lot of blockchain platforms we investigate are still in early stage or the features we need are still undelivered or in progress.

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Quote from: magisterr on March 03, 2018, 05:43:37 AM

Quote from: martinholly167 on March 03, 2018, 03:44:16 AM

Quote from: viljy on March 03, 2018, 03:30:01 AM

Quote from: magisterr on March 02, 2018, 09:13:51 PM

What this mean “User Acquisition” token pool? How this pool will be used? This will be airdrops for tokens holders or...?

No. This is different. Among investors, these unsold tokens will not be distributed. This is the difference from Sophia. I already asked the same question, although they did not answer it. At the moment, the following conclusions can be drawn from the developers' answers and from whitepaper:
They did not decide whether they will have their own blockchain or they will work on the Ethereum blockchain. I think that there will be a second option, since this is simpler.
The bounty decision has not yet been made, so this "User Acquisition", which is 25%, can be used for bounty or even for airdrop. Since this is the only way to acquire users and expand the client base. Given that all unsold tokens will be shipped there, it will be a very large volume, much more than 25%.

So surely there will be bounty or airdrop? 25% is very big.

Simpler not means better. Own blockchain always better. Everyone can create ERC tokens. And a thousands of project with erc tokens. I prefer own blockhain always. Own coins always growing much better and have much more value. When they will decided about this? Huh

The question however is do they need their own blockchain? You could argue that the big Ethereum chain is as safe as possible while a new blockchain would have to fear 51% attacks for example.

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Quote from: martinholly167 on March 03, 2018, 03:44:16 AM

Quote from: viljy on March 03, 2018, 03:30:01 AM

Quote from: magisterr on March 02, 2018, 09:13:51 PM

What this mean “User Acquisition” token pool? How this pool will be used? This will be airdrops for tokens holders or...?

No. This is different. Among investors, these unsold tokens will not be distributed. This is the difference from Sophia. I already asked the same question, although they did not answer it. At the moment, the following conclusions can be drawn from the developers' answers and from whitepaper:
They did not decide whether they will have their own blockchain or they will work on the Ethereum blockchain. I think that there will be a second option, since this is simpler.
The bounty decision has not yet been made, so this "User Acquisition", which is 25%, can be used for bounty or even for airdrop. Since this is the only way to acquire users and expand the client base. Given that all unsold tokens will be shipped there, it will be a very large volume, much more than 25%.

So surely there will be bounty or airdrop? 25% is very big.

Simpler not means better. Own blockchain always better. Everyone can create ERC tokens. And a thousands of project with erc tokens. I prefer own blockhain always. Own coins always growing much better and have much more value. When they will decided about this? Huh

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Quote from: crazyfrog01 on March 02, 2018, 02:38:24 AM

Quote from: therealvau3 on March 02, 2018, 01:13:00 AM

Quote from: Token Williams on March 01, 2018, 06:56:42 PM

Quote from: batako on March 01, 2018, 06:14:34 PM

Private Initial Token Event is alive now and it's exclusively for contributors with 200+ ETH. Wish they will get more whales in this phase.

Damn, that's really private! lol

First round for big investors with 200+ ETH is a good approach. Will there be a information of the amount of investors of this phase?
Good luck.

200+ ETH? Are there even whales who throw in such amount that easy? Or is it more for private investors like other companies or so?

Blue whales everywhere

All info will be transparently shared with our community.

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Quote from: cevap on March 01, 2018, 05:24:23 PM

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Quote from: aveon on March 01, 2018, 05:09:54 PM

Quote from: Korsakopf on March 01, 2018, 04:52:38 PM

Hi guys, quick question. Will the token metrics (bonuses) and amount raised from the private ITE also be disclosed before the start of the public ITE?

I don't really think so, they usually hide this info, and only the respective persons have access to it. Good it or bad, sometimes I really want more data on the compaign stages to understand everything in depth.

It’s hidden partly because they don’t want small-scale investors to get discouraged from investing because of the massive advantage (bonuses) that the private investors received.

That's true, but after the end of the private round some information is disclosed afterall, like the total amount raised. Maybe not bonuses, but very often bonuses are negotiated separately, depends on the amount invested and stuff. But the overall result, I think, is always disclosed. If not, it's a bit suspicious, isn't it?

All info will be transparently shared with our community.

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Quote from: batako on March 03, 2018, 05:14:43 AM

Quote from: saintkamei on March 03, 2018, 02:29:33 AM

Quote from: beeelzebub on March 03, 2018, 01:35:49 AM

About no bounty decision of the team i am supporting %100.

Most of the bounties are overpaid and without reason. I only invest projects with no bounties. If they tell themselves without bounties it is the best for investors.

I get where you are coming from. But bounties are a great way to connect to the blockchain community who may not naturally be pulled in by ads. I think it is better than placing an ad or paying people to write an article at Forbes. If they are not doing bounties, it means they have deep pockets. That might be a good reason to invest in. Perhaps, that would justify you investing only in programs with no bounties.

Most project has bounty to help them to spread the platform. But, every project has their own reason whether they want to run bounty or not.

I wouldn't say a bounty campaign is necessary for the success of a project. And if you don't have a bounty campaign there won't be any bounty hunters who dump their tokens leading to a price decrease and disappointed investors.

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Quote from: the_donald on March 02, 2018, 01:22:10 AM

Quote from: therealvau3 on March 02, 2018, 01:13:00 AM

Quote from: Token Williams on March 01, 2018, 06:56:42 PM

Quote from: batako on March 01, 2018, 06:14:34 PM

Private Initial Token Event is alive now and it's exclusively for contributors with 200+ ETH. Wish they will get more whales in this phase.

Damn, that's really private! lol

First round for big investors with 200+ ETH is a good approach. Will there be a information of the amount of investors of this phase?
Good luck.

I hope the dev's let us know how the private sale is going , there's no counter on the website that I can see.

Yes, all info will be transparently shared with our community.

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Quote from: therealvau3 on March 02, 2018, 01:13:00 AM

Quote from: Token Williams on March 01, 2018, 06:56:42 PM

Quote from: batako on March 01, 2018, 06:14:34 PM

Private Initial Token Event is alive now and it's exclusively for contributors with 200+ ETH. Wish they will get more whales in this phase.

Damn, that's really private! lol

First round for big investors with 200+ ETH is a good approach. Will there be a information of the amount of investors of this phase?
Good luck.

Yes, all info will be transparently shared with our community.

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Quote from: saintkamei on March 03, 2018, 02:29:33 AM

Quote from: beeelzebub on March 03, 2018, 01:35:49 AM

About no bounty decision of the team i am supporting %100.

Most of the bounties are overpaid and without reason. I only invest projects with no bounties. If they tell themselves without bounties it is the best for investors.

I get where you are coming from. But bounties are a great way to connect to the blockchain community who may not naturally be pulled in by ads. I think it is better than placing an ad or paying people to write an article at Forbes. If they are not doing bounties, it means they have deep pockets. That might be a good reason to invest in. Perhaps, that would justify you investing only in programs with no bounties.

Most project has bounty to help them to spread the platform. But, every project has their own reason whether they want to run bounty or not.

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Quote from: Biotron.io on March 03, 2018, 04:31:28 AM

Quote from: PS92 on March 01, 2018, 05:25:51 PM

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Quote from: bitcoinbulk on March 01, 2018, 07:28:52 AM

I skimmed through the whitepaper and this looks like a rather interesting idea! One thing I can't figure out yet...how does holding the token benefit said token holder? Or what are the tokens used for? I look forward to your response!

Hi Bitcoinbulk,

Our token, BTRN, is a utility token and will be used to transfer the value of your data and control trust, transparency, and accuracy, across Biotron.io.

According to SEC there are no utility tokens. Will you guys sell to US?

Geographically, the biggest markets for analytics of personal data are the US and Western Europe. Being based within European Union, Biotron focuses first on the UK, France and Germany. The US will be targeted once a solid basis has been settled.

That sound OK for me. I think that is better to focus in one market and after develop the product and succed jump to other market.

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Quote from: PS92 on March 01, 2018, 07:15:04 PM

Are there any videos of the project? Do you guys have a youtube channel?

Video is on the way.

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Quote from: Biotron.io on March 03, 2018, 03:55:10 AM

Quote from: viljy on March 01, 2018, 02:57:29 PM

25% all BTRN tokens will be allocated for user acquisition activities, business development, and market expansion.

If not all the ERC-20 based BTRN are generated during the ITE, the remaining tokens will be allocated to the user acquisition pool.

How exactly will this be done? I'm wondering if you plan airdrop to attract users? This would be very displeasing to investors. Or maybe there will be a bounty company?

We plan to have strong referral program during user acquisition campaign. Stay tuned for more info.

I don't like to use other project names Sphere did that referral system, I dont know whether they happy or not with the results but if you are planning to use referral programs you should be aware of multiple accounts. Multiple accounts can mislead you about your customer base. I just want to warn you:)

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