Topic: [ANN] Bytecent - Blockchain Powered Social Rewards Network - Bytecent.com - page 82. (Read 160297 times)

When the trolls come out that is a signal to buy.

I just purchased an Amazon card on bycrewards.com and it was super easy. I already accumulated 6 dollars I can use towards my next order.

Probably you have POWA that you use wich is not good for small miner(s) and also dont know what happens when diff oges over 8.

When you use a user specified data folder, you still have to create a new conf file and put the nodes in that file. Create a new bytecent.conf file and put it in your user specified data directory. Add these nodes to the file:

addnode=1.0.130.27
addnode=1.2.146.82
addnode=1.20.155.126
addnode=106.208.125.162
addnode=107.15.86.59
addnode=108.50.200.130
addnode=109.174.60.48
addnode=109.88.72.144
addnode=109.92.229.172
addnode=110.77.149.131
addnode=110.77.222.152
addnode=118.174.68.87
addnode=118.175.89.142
addnode=118.211.235.99
addnode=119.46.112.254
addnode=119.76.57.65
addnode=122.154.38.157
addnode=124.122.167.235
addnode=130.43.82.145
addnode=137.135.57.119
addnode=141.0.178.25
addnode=146.90.251.87
addnode=158.181.243.204
addnode=161.202.10.157
addnode=161.53.40.22
addnode=161.53.40.94
addnode=171.96.176.238
addnode=171.96.247.188
addnode=173.3.11.183
addnode=173.3.11.64
addnode=176.31.128.119
addnode=176.32.192.109
addnode=177.189.59.4
addnode=178.158.192.115
addnode=178.172.215.112
addnode=178.221.204.229
addnode=178.223.204.165
addnode=178.233.16.39
addnode=178.238.105.130
addnode=178.238.105.141
addnode=178.47.136.242
addnode=178.90.210.45
addnode=180.216.62.140
addnode=184.75.229.119
addnode=185.50.68.130
addnode=185.6.126.207
addnode=187.199.135.161
addnode=190.142.141.167
addnode=190.47.141.32
addnode=193.161.14.127
addnode=193.161.14.13
addnode=193.161.15.68
addnode=193.188.65.189
addnode=193.198.102.32
addnode=195.98.81.121
addnode=197.87.65.10
addnode=198.8.80.192
addnode=201.229.104.38
addnode=201.248.234.50
addnode=203.146.246.82
addnode=203.149.45.82
addnode=203.189.130.130
addnode=208.54.90.246
addnode=210.213.59.137
addnode=212.112.119.140
addnode=212.178.199.58
addnode=212.253.83.206
addnode=213.10.122.27
addnode=213.160.158.96
addnode=220.178.235.214
addnode=221.195.74.226
addnode=36.76.97.122
addnode=37.133.67.47
addnode=37.218.177.240
addnode=46.14.248.113
addnode=46.166.138.158
addnode=46.166.190.244
addnode=46.185.143.64
addnode=46.188.4.74
addnode=46.223.144.243
addnode=46.39.224.221
addnode=49.213.19.166
addnode=5.140.212.217
addnode=5.165.94.193
addnode=5.248.205.96
addnode=50.172.215.50
addnode=50.65.1.249
addnode=50.65.23.9
addnode=52.10.123.251
addnode=52.24.36.33
addnode=52.25.60.135
addnode=52.26.251.221
addnode=52.6.100.167
addnode=52.8.85.33
addnode=58.11.21.24
addnode=58.11.81.154
addnode=58.8.209.159
addnode=62.16.143.209
addnode=62.176.13.170
addnode=66.110.196.186
addnode=67.171.34.219
addnode=68.184.180.69
addnode=69.178.59.60
addnode=70.65.141.104
addnode=71.219.228.245
addnode=71.34.149.146
addnode=72.228.141.87
addnode=73.142.249.55
addnode=73.34.92.100
addnode=77.160.104.177
addnode=77.222.155.210
addnode=77.232.139.69
addnode=78.110.254.166
addnode=78.87.23.118
addnode=78.93.41.130
addnode=79.101.77.216
addnode=79.110.156.192
addnode=79.110.159.184
addnode=80.11.70.97
addnode=81.103.171.187
addnode=81.13.95.38
addnode=81.248.19.92
addnode=81.95.181.12
addnode=82.194.186.49
addnode=82.208.238.142
addnode=83.114.253.107
addnode=83.145.242.175
addnode=83.157.62.179
addnode=83.239.170.49
addnode=84.106.114.17
addnode=84.208.230.30
addnode=85.105.223.150
addnode=85.105.228.16
addnode=86.218.66.216
addnode=88.151.179.67
addnode=88.89.55.156
addnode=89.180.188.78
addnode=89.215.34.188
addnode=89.249.61.118
addnode=89.88.139.158
addnode=93.143.241.159
addnode=93.72.233.206
addnode=94.158.95.251
addnode=95.154.131.53
addnode=95.190.65.30
addnode=95.55.127.189
addnode=95.79.100.139
addnode=98.235.220.249
addnode=98.252.90.128

Yes , content of the file as generated by client is :

addnode=52.8.85.33
addnode=52.6.100.167
addnode=52.25.60.135

Still ,0 connections to network.

And i agree you can use datadir with your wallet but would be nice if it could be managed durring installation or in wallet settings ,etc , for user friendliness

Also Debug Log reads over and over :
2015-06-24 17:31:20 trying connection 52.8.85.33:55599 lastseen=234.2hrs
2015-06-24 17:31:20 connected 52.8.85.33:55599
2015-06-24 17:31:20 send version message: version 70008, blocks=0, us=79.113.14.226:55599, them=52.8.85.33:55599, peer=52.8.85.33:55599
2015-06-24 17:31:21 socket closed
2015-06-24 17:31:21 disconnecting node 52.8.85.33:55599


Best regards,

You CAN use -datadir with our wallet. However, did you put a conf file in that directory with nodes? How can the wallet connect if you do not provide nodes for it to connect to?

Hello,
 I wanted to try this coin today but after downloading the wallet and running it (with custom argument -datadir, which no offense but by now should be standard in any altcoin client setup ) i have 0 connections to the network , after 10 hours of running the wallet i am starting to believe i will never even connect to it .

Thank you for your advice, and I would "argue" you just made the argument why captcha should remain. People do hate captcha and that is why I used it. They would be so annoyed with using the captcha they would avoid entering the captcha by having more coins in their wallet.  I believe in proof of concept, and after 8 months I can comfortably say the current system works. Is it perfect? No. Can it be improved? Yes. Will it be improved? Yes. Will we be able to please everyone? No. There is a delicate balance between miners and investors, and each have their own separate needs. I am glad to hear you are invested in Bytecent, and I hope you use some of your marketing experience to help get the word out about the project.

FYI: In 8 months, less than 5 people have been "against" the captcha.

It's not about another coin. This is about your coin. YOUR coin.

Look I make a LOT of money doing marketing and PR for a living. So much so I don't have to work anymore and I can simply sit on forums and argue with people like I'm doing here.

Here's some free advice. Take it. Leave it. I hope Bytecoin does well. I own maybe $3000. Nothing to go crazy over. Hopefully you make it a coin to remember.

My advice; or rather; thoughts.

People hate, I mean really hate, captchas. They do. Take a poll. They are annoying. Time wasters. When solved incorrectly it's frustrating.

This paradigm here does one thing only:  It works AGAINST your USERS EXPERIENCE in an effort to create the FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY that no one will cheat. Well we have both already agreed. People are going to cheat. So all I am seeing here is we are left with a compromised user experience.

I could think of a dozen other ways to prevent; and more effectively so; people from botnetting your coins POW stage.

Focus on user experience. Focus on the tactile nature of your currency. How will it "feel" to the user. How will it make them feel?

The true power, where mass adoption takes hold, traction builds, and a tipping point is reached, will not be driven by people who mine per se. But people who adopt.

Just food for thought.

Here we both agree, and isn't security always a cat and mouse game? I knew when I launched Bytecent there will always be someone trying to game the system, and with each version it has become increasing harder.

We can walk and chew gum at the same time We can focus on security and work on projects. We are 8 months and have done more than 90+ percent of the other coins.

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Bytecent card (Store and transport your Bytecent safely): http://www.bytecentcard.com

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Show me one other coin that has launched within 8 months that has a comparable infrastructure to Bytecent. And we have two more services launching in another few weeks

Ok I bought more. Just now. A chunk. I'm hopefull.

Ok. I'm very curious to see how that will be implemented. Each VM having a unique machine ID; a unique MAC address; a unique proxy server with different outside IP; a unique wallet; a unique... you get my point. The VM can be sandboxed so easilly how on earth would your software know there are other VMs even running when one connects to a proxy in NYC and the other to a proxy in CA.

Yes that can be done now and I am sure a few people are doing it, but it can't be done in 1.4. And you seem to forget you still have to buy coins for the one wallet.

Ok well ALL I am saying is people WILL figure out how to bypass or scrapebox the captchas... meaning you will be playing a constant game of cat and mouse; trying to stay ahead of them. And for every "release" there will be a new bot.

I simply was saying there are better ways to use your creativity and energy. That is all.

You do realize as soon as someone figures out how to bypass the captcha, all we have to do is release an update? Your argument is flawed. And yes basic captchas are easy to bypass, but Bytecent 1.4 doesn't use basic captcha. Furthermore, if the current captcha system was so easy to bypass, it would have been done already with this current version. Let me be clear, I am not claiming the captcha ccan't be bypassed, but regular updates will effectively thwart any attempts.

Ok then at least state the PPS limit in your documentation. I'd like to know what it is too. What is the exact "limit".

Not that I'm gaming the system; but I didnt find it in the documentation so I don't consider, or didnt at the time; a rule.

Launch virtual box. Place wallet in central shared folder on single system. Clone 6 copies of Win 7 64. Share same wallet chain data, but run separate instances. Problem solved.

FYI, You can add to your db: with HT I'm now clocking 25,600pps on a dual E5-2697 V3 with 128 GB Ram

The most adopted digital currency, accepted 1000 fold over any other coin; known as Bitcoin has done nothing but decrease in value as both:

The coin supply has increased.

The difficulty has increased.

Price has dropped.

That's all I got.

Lets agree to disagree. Your claims; which sound "factual" - as in "this is what WILL happen" - I take them as assumptions. Nothing more.

1.) People WILL game the system.

2.) How can you know that as more miners "mine" they will also "buy coins"?

3.) Captcha is not difficult to get around. I'm sorry but it's not. There are a dozen or more very easy to use services that scrape the captcha, send it to a real human, who then sends back the command.  Any types of hoops you make people jump through doesnt take into consideration someone will code a bot that is compatible with one of the many human input services that (screen captures); RDP captures; etc - sends the data to a real human in India; who then sends back screen commands; whether it be standard captcha or sort the pieces of the puzzle or which one is not a fruit. Even game based "shoot the birds" captchas can be solved with these services, and the rates to solve are so minimal: to the tune of ranging from 100-1000 solves per $5.00 or $10.00. It's ridiculuously cheap.

Even on the high high end; the captchas could be solved every hour, via a bot; averaging 700 captchas per month: $20.00 for a human solving service.

So yea, I'm just stating facts that people will game the system. I don't want to solve captchas ever hour. If I can code a macro to interact to the point where the "necessary info" is then sent immediately to the service; and they then send back the command to solve... I'd do it. I'm not going to, but people will. And likely deploy that said system to a botnet of computers to run when idle.

Again, my thoughts are focus on what your coin will do. No how it will prevent people from mining. Products, features, not roadblocks and captchas.

People hate captchas.

Sorry to school you, but you are 100% incorrect. Anyone that has been in Bytecent longer than a week knows what I stated about Bytecent and the market cap is correct. IF the value of Bytecent remains in the current range of 9-10 cents without dropping, which it has for the past several weeks, the market cap will gradually increase and has been gradually increasing. You keep mistakenly comparing Bytecent to other coins, and we are not other coins. I would suggest doing more research before commenting on the economics and mechanics of Bytecent.

We will not be removing the PPS limit or increasing it at this time.

And really; either eliminate the PPS limit on a single wallet; or at least increase it to the top CPU benchmark system.

A lot of people have high end systems. Why cant we mine without having to use software of have knowledge of how to pair CPU cores and set CPU affinities.

Its not in the documentation. It should be.

Kill it or state it. That's all I ask.

Reread what I wrote. Nowhere in my comment did I make any of the claims you just stated. However, in the case of Bytecent you are wrong. If the difficulty goes up based on normal mining, and no one "gaming the system, the value WILL go up, that is how Bytecent was designed. As more miners get on the network, many of them will buy more coins to mine longer. Most people do not want to enter captcha every 60 minutes. If only 100 new miners decided to mine Bytecent, and each wanted to mine for only 12 hours without captcha, that is 49500 BYC needed to satisfy 100 miners. There are only 25538 BYC currently for sale on Bittrex (sell wall). So I can honestly make the claim if the difficulty goes above 8, the price of Bytecent will also go up as long as everyone is "mining by the rules".