you guys are nuts, you want to reduce the incentive to secure a blockchain you imagine will grow in value over time...
it should be affordable to own a masternode (withins reason)
im sure people would like to be able to have more than 5-10 urge marketplaces to shop at
where will those coins come from and at what cost to security if you reduce the stake reward further.
your talking about an emission of...
year 1 end: 1 mil coins 1 mil marketcap = $480 to stakers, $960 to nodes DAILY EMISSION! $1440 of coins, price $1 per coin
year 1 end: 1 mil coins 10 mil marketcap = $4800 to stakers, $9,600 to nodes DAILY EMISSION! $14,400 of coins, price $10 per coin
year 1 end: 1 mil coins 50 mil marketcap = $24,000 to stakers, $48,000 to nodes DAILY EMISSION! $72,000 of coins, price $50 per coin
year 5 end: 3 mil coins 3 mil marketcap = $480 to stakers, $960 to nodes DAILY EMISSION! $1440 of coins, price $1 per coin
year 5 end: 3 mil coins 30 mil marketcap = $4800 to stakers, $9,600 to nodes DAILY EMISSION! $14,400 of coins, price $10 per coin
year 5 end: 3 mil coins 150 mil marketcap = $24,000 to stakers, $48,000 to nodes DAILY EMISSION! $72,000 of coins, price $50 per coin
wow a 150 million dollar marketcap requiring 72000 to support seems pretty reasonable.
whats bitcoin emitting daily? $800,000 in new coins
everyone can shove their opinion kindly into their asses
Topic: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= - page 162. (Read 826733 times)
April 17, 2015, 06:51:28 PM
April 17, 2015, 06:49:19 PM
Thank you for the contribution sent you a little something. :-)
April 17, 2015, 06:47:34 PM
Wrong.We have huge issue but everybody scare talk about it.I've already shoot down four masternodes and left two of them .Reason is only one.I don't want to get stress because all my masternodes stop produce coins.Last 0.6666666 I've seen 69 hours ago at one of the six masternodes.All of them was listed and active for few hours and disappear from list and again come back for few hours and disappearand again show up at list for 69 hours but no payment at all. Here what I found in debug console and this happen after last wallet update.If anybody can help ?? I can have 10 or more masternodes but if i got problem with 6 so ..I don't see any reason to continue masternodes in my systems.
socket recv error 10054
Misbehaving: [2001:0:9d38:90d7:288b:30e5:9333:bce9]:30104 (0 -> 1)
ProcessMessage(dseep, 116 bytes) FAILED
Misbehaving: 92.31.187.182:30104 (6 -> 7)
ProcessMessage(dseep, 116 bytes) FAILED
socket recv error 10054
Misbehaving: [2001:0:9d38:90d7:288b:30e5:9333:bce9]:30104 (1 -> 2)
ProcessMessage(dseep, 116 bytes) FAILED
I think that error socket recv 10054 is the main problem .I understand, the connection was interrupted by the receiving process.And sometime can happen when dowloaded program ( like Crave wallet update ) wrote to appdata directory to many times.We got two updates in 3 or 4 days..So I think that I know what happen but I don't know how to fix that .Clean Roaming folder and download new wallet isn't help.I did that 4 times with the same error .Again..Anybody can help????Thank you
Your issue is with your network connectivity. Your masternodes need to have high quality consistent network connectivity to peers so that your broadcasts are propagated. There are some tweaks you might be able to do with your configuration to optimize it. What kind of network are you running your nodes on? From your other post it seemed you are running from your home connection and not on a vps? You might try limiting maxconnections in your conf to something like 8. socket recv error 10054
Misbehaving: [2001:0:9d38:90d7:288b:30e5:9333:bce9]:30104 (0 -> 1)
ProcessMessage(dseep, 116 bytes) FAILED
Misbehaving: 92.31.187.182:30104 (6 -> 7)
ProcessMessage(dseep, 116 bytes) FAILED
socket recv error 10054
Misbehaving: [2001:0:9d38:90d7:288b:30e5:9333:bce9]:30104 (1 -> 2)
ProcessMessage(dseep, 116 bytes) FAILED
I think that error socket recv 10054 is the main problem .I understand, the connection was interrupted by the receiving process.And sometime can happen when dowloaded program ( like Crave wallet update ) wrote to appdata directory to many times.We got two updates in 3 or 4 days..So I think that I know what happen but I don't know how to fix that .Clean Roaming folder and download new wallet isn't help.I did that 4 times with the same error .Again..Anybody can help????Thank you
April 17, 2015, 06:46:12 PM
Hey guys
I made a ticker app for CRAVE on Android, you can find it here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.cravecoin.craveticker
It's pretty simple and straight forward, but it might come in handy for some of you.
I hope you like it. Feedback is highly appreciated.
Some screenshots:
Donations are always welcome
BTC: 1BcAVaXh93sogZUpnWZYeAmbcXeN7ybLEu
CRAVE: C628f71AVemYmSRdbgpi5qYYSHB2j3Vb9u
I made a ticker app for CRAVE on Android, you can find it here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.cravecoin.craveticker
It's pretty simple and straight forward, but it might come in handy for some of you.
I hope you like it. Feedback is highly appreciated.
Some screenshots:
Donations are always welcome
BTC: 1BcAVaXh93sogZUpnWZYeAmbcXeN7ybLEu
CRAVE: C628f71AVemYmSRdbgpi5qYYSHB2j3Vb9u
April 17, 2015, 06:45:37 PM
Whatever your views are on economics, they are YOUR personal views. Please don't include a whole community by including a "WE" in your statements. Coin basic specs were posted on day one on the ann and now one or two people demanding for it to be changed because "you really want to like this coin". Can you not see the arrogance and sense of entitlement in your statements? who the hell are you to speak up on behalf of everyone holding crave??? 
April 17, 2015, 06:43:36 PM
their nodes have been running for months and months, of course they have more than us right now... why the heck are we discussing 10 years from now and somehow thinking it will all be the same as it is today lol you people are too funny.
new nodes have been going up every day growing nice and steady
Personally i like to invest in projects that have a long term vision, if this project does not care about what happens in 10 years from now then i would also care a lot less about this project. I want to like CRAVE though, since so many coins are trying to be mainstream and are distancing them selfs from the dark markets. CRAVE is doing the opposite i think that is cool. new nodes have been going up every day growing nice and steady
So please ICM cap the block reward at 2%, so it cannot go below that percentage. It would hugely increase my confidence in this project and I am sure there are many silent investors out there that feel the same way that i do.
socket recv error 10054
Misbehaving: [2001:0:9d38:90d7:288b:30e5:9333:bce9]:30104 (0 -> 1)
ProcessMessage(dseep, 116 bytes) FAILED
Misbehaving: 92.31.187.182:30104 (6 -> 7)
ProcessMessage(dseep, 116 bytes) FAILED
socket recv error 10054
Misbehaving: [2001:0:9d38:90d7:288b:30e5:9333:bce9]:30104 (1 -> 2)
ProcessMessage(dseep, 116 bytes) FAILED
I think that error socket recv 10054 is the main problem .I understand, the connection was interrupted by the receiving process.And sometime can happen when dowloaded program ( like Crave wallet update ) wrote to appdata directory to many times.We got two updates in 3 or 4 days..So I think that I know what happen but I don't know how to fix that .Clean Roaming folder and download new wallet isn't help.I did that 4 times with the same error .Again..Anybody can help????Thank you
April 17, 2015, 06:34:35 PM
it appears that whoever was running the auto-bot on Trex has turned it OFF
finally it gone on for days
April 17, 2015, 06:32:41 PM
it appears that whoever was running the auto-bot on Trex has turned it OFF
April 17, 2015, 06:23:04 PM
their nodes have been running for months and months, of course they have more than us right now... why the heck are we discussing 10 years from now and somehow thinking it will all be the same as it is today lol you people are too funny.
new nodes have been going up every day growing nice and steady
Personally i like to invest in projects that have a long term vision, if this project does not care about what happens in 10 years from now then i would also care a lot less about this project. I want to like CRAVE though, since so many coins are trying to be mainstream and are distancing them selfs from the dark markets. CRAVE is doing the opposite i think that is cool. new nodes have been going up every day growing nice and steady
So please ICM cap the block reward at 2%, so it cannot go below that percentage. It would hugely increase my confidence in this project and I am sure there are many silent investors out there that feel the same way that i do.
We will see.
Critical thinking and debate are some what keep economics growing its good to agree to disagree sometimes.
I agree with that April 17, 2015, 06:20:59 PM
Critical thinking and debate are some what keep economics growing its good to agree to disagree sometimes its how we grow and learn.
April 17, 2015, 06:18:35 PM
lol this is great tho... the more people try to stake and less nodes then staking becomes less efficient for 500 coins, and the ones who leave their nodes running will be the efficient ones... but if theres way more adrenaline nodes up then staking 500 coins will be very efficient and nodes a bit less. So it might take awhile for a good balance to form.
the one I think the nodes have over staking is I've already had to reset my staking coins twice now... which leaves me needing to spend the time sending coins to reset their age/size of deposits so they will begin to stake again after the long 8 hr wait. so I end up losing time.
I'm trying the "minimize weight consumption" option in the wallet... I'm assuming it will help staking (would love if someone could explain it)
I am wise to enough to acknowledge when i am wrong. I talked to a friend of mine who is an expert at economics and math, and he pointed out to me that i was mistaken in my criticism. the one I think the nodes have over staking is I've already had to reset my staking coins twice now... which leaves me needing to spend the time sending coins to reset their age/size of deposits so they will begin to stake again after the long 8 hr wait. so I end up losing time.
I'm trying the "minimize weight consumption" option in the wallet... I'm assuming it will help staking (would love if someone could explain it)
April 17, 2015, 06:16:50 PM
I like the fact everyone's giving this some deep thought its a good sign for a coin so young lol.
April 17, 2015, 06:15:23 PM
their nodes have been running for months and months, of course they have more than us right now... why the heck are we discussing 10 years from now and somehow thinking it will all be the same as it is today lol you people are too funny.
new nodes have been going up every day growing nice and steady
Personally i like to invest in projects that have a long term vision, if this project does not care about what happens in 10 years from now then i would also care a lot less about this project. I want to like CRAVE though, since so many coins are trying to be mainstream and are distancing them selfs from the dark markets. CRAVE is doing the opposite i think that is cool. new nodes have been going up every day growing nice and steady
So please ICM cap the block reward at 2%, so it cannot go below that percentage. It would hugely increase my confidence in this project and I am sure there are many silent investors out there that feel the same way that i do.
April 17, 2015, 06:12:18 PM
the market will always balance itself out.
more coins = more masternodes
more masternodes = less coins available on orderbook
less supply + more demand = rise in price
rise in price = more masternodes because of increase profitability.
you have to think in percentage, not in total number of coins
whether there is 500k coins or 50 million. If 50% of them are running masternodes, then you can expect the same value of price per CRAVE. The good thing about having more coins will mean a lower price, but greater liquidity. this will help stabilize the price and attract big traders.
give it time, ICM has set this thing up right.
like i said before imc did amazing job. really genius. no issue here more coins = more masternodes
more masternodes = less coins available on orderbook
less supply + more demand = rise in price
rise in price = more masternodes because of increase profitability.
you have to think in percentage, not in total number of coins
whether there is 500k coins or 50 million. If 50% of them are running masternodes, then you can expect the same value of price per CRAVE. The good thing about having more coins will mean a lower price, but greater liquidity. this will help stabilize the price and attract big traders.
give it time, ICM has set this thing up right.
April 17, 2015, 06:11:53 PM
their nodes have been running for months and months, of course they have more than us right now... why the heck are we discussing 10 years from now and somehow thinking it will all be the same as it is today lol you people are too funny.
new nodes have been going up every day growing nice and steady
Personally i like to invest in projects that have a long term vision, if this project does not care about what happens in 10 years from now then i would also care a lot less about this project. I want to like CRAVE though, since so many coins are trying to be mainstream and are distancing them selfs from the dark markets. CRAVE is doing the opposite i think that is cool. new nodes have been going up every day growing nice and steady
So please ICM cap the block reward at 2%, so it cannot go below that percentage. It would hugely increase my confidence in this project and I am sure there are many silent investors out there that feel the same way that i do.
April 17, 2015, 06:09:44 PM
the market will always balance itself out.
more coins = more masternodes
more masternodes = less coins available on orderbook
less supply + more demand = rise in price
rise in price = more masternodes because of increase profitability.
you have to think in percentage, not in total number of coins
whether there is 500k coins or 50 million. If 50% of them are running masternodes, then you can expect the same value of price per CRAVE. The good thing about having more coins will mean a lower price, but greater liquidity. this will help stabilize the price and attract big traders.
give it time, ICM has set this thing up right.
more coins = more masternodes
more masternodes = less coins available on orderbook
less supply + more demand = rise in price
rise in price = more masternodes because of increase profitability.
you have to think in percentage, not in total number of coins
whether there is 500k coins or 50 million. If 50% of them are running masternodes, then you can expect the same value of price per CRAVE. The good thing about having more coins will mean a lower price, but greater liquidity. this will help stabilize the price and attract big traders.
give it time, ICM has set this thing up right.
April 17, 2015, 06:07:03 PM
their nodes have been running for months and months, of course they have more than us right now... why the heck are we discussing 10 years from now and somehow thinking it will all be the same as it is today lol you people are too funny.
new nodes have been going up every day growing nice and steady
Personally i like to invest in projects that have a long term vision, if this project does not care about what happens in 10 years from now then i would also care a lot less about this project. I want to like CRAVE though, since so many coins are trying to be mainstream and are distancing them selfs from the dark markets. CRAVE is doing the opposite i think that is cool. new nodes have been going up every day growing nice and steady
So please ICM cap the block reward at 2%, so it cannot go below that percentage. It would hugely increase my confidence in this project and I am sure there are many silent investors out there that feel the same way that i do.
April 17, 2015, 06:06:24 PM
Maybe we could fork another asset with a cap on stake I'm sure there's a solution that will make all parties happy and no feeling have to get hurt. I mean come on its not even an issue for awhile who knows where crypto as an industry is at by that point...
if you just want a rare coin theres lots out there like SQL and others, with CRAVE there is already more coins running nodes then has been created by the 1 crave per block pos structure... and is creating much more than a simple coin. I think ICM is pretty genius so far
ICM is Satoshi v2
April 17, 2015, 06:04:26 PM
Maybe we could fork another asset with a cap on stake I'm sure there's a solution that will make all parties happy and no feeling have to get hurt. I mean come on its not even an issue for awhile who knows where crypto as an industry is at by that point...
if you just want a rare coin theres lots out there like SQL and others, with CRAVE there is already more coins running nodes then has been created by the 1 crave per block pos structure... and is creating much more than a simple coin. I think ICM is pretty genius so far
April 17, 2015, 06:04:14 PM
True its an option and that is a concern I thought about to, but we forget that urge will draw the demand and people will pay the price if there's enough of a demand for it and being first to market will play a big part in ensuring craves future too.
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