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you won't get a daily return of 12$ since the market won't bear it. the entire 24h volume is not enough to service all the nodes. great, you get 13 nodes and you can liquidate maybe 15% of your daily rewards and watch the price tank. owners have to be real believers and keep the majority of the coins in hopes of a better future => way higher risk. added on top of that their game tanked hard. the underlying business model has no driving force currently - we will see soon with their 2nd game if they learned anything (don't hold your breath). sure i can put my money into HYIPS/ponzi's like scrypt.cc too and hope for the best... they have 1500% daily ROI so does it matter the risk is 1000000x higher

is the dash instamine 54%+ of the coin supply that is controlled by 1 entity like it is with ion? i highly doubt it
that % is higher now since they stake/node their 54%+ share. they sold some of this via web page PNG's but its probably in the range of few btc. inflation has created ~3.2 million coins so far. if they sold 0 the ionomy team would have generated >1.728 million coins vs the customers <1.472 million. (i'm granting them the assumption that they are not selling their premine for daily costs like they did with paycoin. once there are no ICO funds left they are forced back into it)

ion has no real devs hence they had to dump their first coin and move on to the next. they couldn't launch a working coin. even then hiring temp help to get the new coin running. that means there is no competent (coin) dev team. please enlighten us since you are more of an ion expert: point to some new things they have created for the coin? fixing 1 old bug in a shitcoin is not really developing anything imo... i did a quick look at their github and couldn't find anything worth mentioning but please do correct me Smiley or is this the part where you say "its not a crypto project. look at the games"?

we are a year into this and here are the results  Huh

edit: totally forgot they didn't sell all their ICO coins (obviously they pocketed those coins  Grin Grin skewing the % even more)

You raise a couple of interesting points setting the scene for an interesting discussion but your comments are totally meaningless as your intent is to troll. Me countering your comments is just giving you ammunition to fuel your agenda of ill intent.

Ionomy is a long term initiative in which year 1 as been all about building foundations.  Smiley
legendary
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The team got more than 54% I think. Closer to 75% if you include the 2+ million coins they didn't sell via ICO:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16554577

As evidenced by the fact that they haven't touched the bounty addresses even though they're supposed to pay out 1000 ION every week to Gravity players.
legendary
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you won't get a daily return of 12$ since the market won't bear it. the entire 24h volume is not enough to service all the nodes. great, you get 13 nodes and you can liquidate maybe 15% of your daily rewards and watch the price tank. owners have to be real believers and keep the majority of the coins in hopes of a better future => way higher risk. added on top of that their game tanked hard. the underlying business model has no driving force currently - we will see soon with their 2nd game if they learned anything (don't hold your breath). sure i can put my money into HYIPS/ponzi's like scrypt.cc too and hope for the best... they have 1500% daily ROI so does it matter the risk is 1000000x higher

is the dash instamine 54%+ of the coin supply that is controlled by 1 entity like it is with ion? i highly doubt it
that % is higher now since they stake/node their 54%+ share. they sold some of this via web page PNG's but its probably in the range of few btc. inflation has created ~3.2 million coins so far. if they sold 0 the ionomy team would have generated >1.728 million coins vs the customers <1.472 million. (i'm granting them the assumption that they are not selling their premine for daily costs like they did with paycoin. once there are no ICO funds left they are forced back into it)

ion has no real devs hence they had to dump their first coin and move on to the next. they couldn't launch a working coin. even then hiring temp help to get the new coin running. that means there is no competent (coin) dev team. please enlighten us since you are more of an ion expert: point to some new things they have created for the coin? fixing 1 old bug in a shitcoin is not really developing anything imo... i did a quick look at their github and couldn't find anything worth mentioning but please do correct me Smiley or is this the part where you say "it's not a crypto project. look at the games"?

we are a year into this and here are the results  Huh

edit: totally forgot they didn't sell all their ICO coins (obviously they pocketed those coins  Grin Grin skewing the % even more)
legendary
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No I never...... I don't mind using sats but without looking it up I cannot remember the sats price. Notice though for my 7 day prediction I've gone with $.75 or 71k sats.


this quote is better Cool not like it matters that much. there is no volume

people starting to figure out that currently compared to owning a DASH node owning an ION node is a much better deal

gawsome. lets look at the numbers

ion:
Projected Daily Income: $12.02
last 24h volume: 1.3 btc (not enough to service all node rewards let alone stakers)
no devs hence the clone coin + huge premine for 1 entity

dash:
Projected Daily Income $25.04
last 24h volume: 15,021 btc
real devs, no links to paycoiners and not majority premined

where are you finding these magical people?  Roll Eyes

You missed something out

ION MN = 20k ION = at market price = $.42 = $8,400 to run a node.
DASH MN = 1K = at market price = $114 = $114K to run a node.

DASH launched in 2014 & ION launched in 2016.

Would you rather spend $114k to get a daily return of $25 or $9k to get a return of $12

If you had a budget of one DASH node you could buy 13 ION nodes and receive a daily income of $156.

ION has no devs  Grin Grin Grin now your being stupid.

The DASH devs like the ION devs are diamonds in turds. The DASH shit was all the scams around Xcoin/Darkcoin coupled with the Instamine problem. When ION hits 3 years old like DASH is today you trolls will be a distant memory  Smiley

You seem to be missing the entire point of the post. Look at the massive difference in volumes and reread what was stated. Also, the difference in premine was also pointed out. This wasn't just a comparison of daily "theoretical" profit for as cheap as possible.
hero member
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No I never...... I don't mind using sats but without looking it up I cannot remember the sats price. Notice though for my 7 day prediction I've gone with $.75 or 71k sats.


this quote is better Cool not like it matters that much. there is no volume

people starting to figure out that currently compared to owning a DASH node owning an ION node is a much better deal

gawsome. lets look at the numbers

ion:
Projected Daily Income: $12.02
last 24h volume: 1.3 btc (not enough to service all node rewards let alone stakers)
no devs hence the clone coin + huge premine for 1 entity

dash:
Projected Daily Income $25.04
last 24h volume: 15,021 btc
real devs, no links to paycoiners and not majority premined

where are you finding these magical people?  Roll Eyes

You missed something out

ION MN = 20k ION = at market price = $.42 = $8,400 to run a node.
DASH MN = 1K = at market price = $114 = $114K to run a node.

DASH launched in 2014 & ION launched in 2016.

Would you rather spend $114k to get a daily return of $25 or $9k to get a return of $12

If you had a budget of one DASH node you could buy 13 ION nodes and receive a daily income of $156.

ION has no devs  Grin Grin Grin now your being stupid.

The DASH devs like the ION devs are diamonds in turds. The DASH shit was all the scams around Xcoin/Darkcoin coupled with the Instamine problem. When ION hits 3 years old like DASH is today you trolls will be a distant memory  Smiley
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where are you finding these magical people?  Roll Eyes

You would also start seeing green little people buying all IONs if you just listened to MrCoins with same devotion as paycoiners/ionomists do...

Good ole MrCoins back at it again...  

https://ion.community/topic/67/when-ion-pump

WildShill may no longer the the top ION shill after gem of a hype post.

https://i.snag.gy/FRVhD6.jpg

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mrcoins

When ION Pump?

Looking at the ION volume it is clear to see that ION is not yet of interest to traders. Without the volume there is unlikely to be any pump as it's simply too high risk. ION does not necessarily need to be attractive to traders however a high volume will help move IONs from sellers to buyers more quickly thus allowing faster price expansion so it is within our interests to receive a much higher trade volume for this reason alone.

To upgrade ION to a higher trade volume we simply need more awareness and exposure much of which will come with time and trust. At any point a new development could be the spark that ION needs and a single new incoming whale loading up could do that alone, this can often encourage others sitting on the fence to finally make a move.

TeamION do not run a hype-based project and so traders do not get the opportunity to speculate on what is coming or might be coming (as with other altcoins). So we are dependent on real developments and there could be any number of them just around the corner. So I am holding tight.

In my opinion at any moment ION could take off and receive all the interest it needs.

mrcoins | 2 days ago

This is the same person who went full drama when I said his/her shilly ION pumping was "shameless".

Also same person who said Bittrex may run out of IONs and a bunch of other bullshit about ION and of course Paycoin.

But I guess it's a good thing they waste their blind faith on this shitcoin, which is probably less harmful compared to most other cults they could be pulled in with that mindset.

Eurgh. Characteristic MrCoins vomit inducing pep talk there. It's funny, I thought the narrative was that this wasn't designed to be a traders coin, no 'pump and dump economics', 'ionomy vision', yada yada. Yet here is a whale essentially admitting that actually they would quite like a timely pump, thanks very much, but don't worry, it's coming 'soom' (cringe).

I'm firmly of the opinion that the reason Ion hasn't been picked up is largely because 'Crypto Gravity' was horrifically delayed and then, when it eventually emerged, very underwhelming. There's no momentum behind the project because the team develop things so slowly it allows whatever minor amount of interest they might garner to bleed away out of sheer boredom when it's not followed up. It's unbelievable that the last (and, to date, only) update to 'Crypto Gravity' didn't even contain further levels, for example. Meanwhile the second game, which has been 'about to be in alpha' apparently for a number of weeks now, still seems an age away from release.
legendary
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where are you finding these magical people?  Roll Eyes

You would also start seeing green little people buying all IONs if you just listened to MrCoins with same devotion as paycoiners/ionomists do...

Good ole MrCoins back at it again...  

https://ion.community/topic/67/when-ion-pump

WildShill may no longer the the top ION shill after gem of a hype post.

https://i.snag.gy/FRVhD6.jpg

Quote
mrcoins

When ION Pump?

Looking at the ION volume it is clear to see that ION is not yet of interest to traders. Without the volume there is unlikely to be any pump as it's simply too high risk. ION does not necessarily need to be attractive to traders however a high volume will help move IONs from sellers to buyers more quickly thus allowing faster price expansion so it is within our interests to receive a much higher trade volume for this reason alone.

To upgrade ION to a higher trade volume we simply need more awareness and exposure much of which will come with time and trust. At any point a new development could be the spark that ION needs and a single new incoming whale loading up could do that alone, this can often encourage others sitting on the fence to finally make a move.

TeamION do not run a hype-based project and so traders do not get the opportunity to speculate on what is coming or might be coming (as with other altcoins). So we are dependent on real developments and there could be any number of them just around the corner. So I am holding tight.

In my opinion at any moment ION could take off and receive all the interest it needs.

mrcoins | 2 days ago

This is the same person who went full drama when I said his/her shilly ION pumping was "shameless".

Also same person who said Bittrex may run out of IONs and a bunch of other bullshit about ION and of course Paycoin.

But I guess it's a good thing they waste their blind faith on this shitcoin, which is probably less harmful compared to most other cults they could be pulled in with that mindset.
legendary
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No I never...... I don't mind using sats but without looking it up I cannot remember the sats price. Notice though for my 7 day prediction I've gone with $.75 or 71k sats.


this quote is better Cool not like it matters that much. there is no volume

people starting to figure out that currently compared to owning a DASH node owning an ION node is a much better deal

gawsome. lets look at the numbers

ion:
Projected Daily Income: $12.02
last 24h volume: 1.3 btc (not enough to service all node rewards let alone stakers)
no devs hence the clone coin + huge premine for 1 entity

dash:
Projected Daily Income $25.04
last 24h volume: 15,021 btc
real devs, no links to paycoiners and not majority premined

where are you finding these magical people?  Roll Eyes
legendary
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In the next 7 days ION will be at a minimum of $.5 or .00023 BTC and stay there. This prediction is just based on the recent inflation drop and people starting to figure out that currently compared to owning a DASH node owning an ION node is a much better deal and a breeze to setup. Once you factor in everything else happening in the land of Ionomy you'll see that this is me playing it safe.

minimum LOL

Is that another one of those ionomy special words, like "imminent" and "profit"?

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Speaking of which...

... a year ago:

I'm saying if you don't have enough data to make an informed decision your happy with then don't invest, there's no rush. Gravity is not that far from release and that I think will cover some of your points about a viable business model.

... today:

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^^^ All you need to know about the viability of their business model.
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Good ole MrCoins back at it again...  

https://ion.community/topic/67/when-ion-pump

WildShill may no longer the the top ION shill after gem of a hype post.

Mr. Coins! How could anyone not trust ION when GAW/Paycoin's former top shill is promoting it! /s
legendary
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HODL
Good ole MrCoins back at it again... 

https://ion.community/topic/67/when-ion-pump

WildShill may no longer the the top ION shill after gem of a hype post.
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1 XPY today is worth $0.02.
Gawsome. You almost reached the 20 dollar floor already. Josh always makes good on his promises.
When will ION-Coinstand start? Will the monthly games be available there?
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Really show me the maths

Really fun to watch how shills who failed to show a shred of "maths" for any of their opportunity/vision/etc are demanding it of others. Like that "show me your masternode" bullshit too.

How about we start with you korvas. Show us the math of why ionomy is such a great "opportunity".

I'm guess he will either ignore this post or somehow attack your character or write something that has nothing to do with your post.  But I sure would love to see the maths.

How about this korvas, show us the maths that were used to calculate the ICO price. Also, show us the maths that made the team think they could pump out one game per month.

I don't mind responding any delay is down to me being busy...

You want me to show you how the ICO price was calculated...... Why do you need to know that ? and anyway I'm not an Ionomy employee

You want me to show you the maths that made the team think they could pump out one game per month. You know the answer to this question but choose to ignore so I'm not repeating common knowledge plus I don't understand where the maths come in


Why do I want to know the maths for the ICO? Cause I fuckingg asked it in the slack channel in the beginning, said they'd get back and didn't. I also asked on here, but I guess back then it wasn't cool to answer questions.

And I know the team switched gears with the games (after the got their ICO funds. And newcomers would t know this as it still says 1 game per month on the website. False advertising much?) but what reasoning did the use to figure on one game per month? Why would one ask said question? Shows a lot about the competence and management of the team. Which is EXTREMELY important before investing in ION as gaming is the core of ION.

Personally, I thought it was a half decent idea, if executed properly. I enjoy animation and modeling. I was kinda interested. But the side stepping of questions and trolling on their part turned me off. The slack channel reminded me of an old gentlemans club. If you weren't part of it your weren't really worth putting much effort towards. Maybe things have changed now, I don't pay attention too much. But in the beginning it was rather apparent that they didn't want outsiders and they had something to prove. But after interacting with you and WildShill, I wouldnt spend a single portion of a USD into ION, other than my converted, just as worthless XPY.

1 XPY today is worth $0.02. Ionomy gave you a chance to convert and you did. You've made a big profit and your unhappy,

How many XPY did you convert ?


Why would I tell you how many XPY I converted when you blow off my questions? I'd honestly love to hear your logic on the matter.

@CyberBuds It would be a a step closer to having a real discussion if you showed us your math for the profit/loss you have made with your ION Masternode? remember the MN that you were having troubles with daily maintenance Huh Is your investment holding currently in Dollars, PayCoin, BTC or IONs?

Again, you shill whales ask me for maths but refuse to present your own. Fuck off.

A real discussion was attempted a year ago, but it wasn't cool to answer questions back then.

@CyberBuds A year ago you were not discussing things... just offering your expert opinion...

It's a pain in the ass and more work than my day job. Constantly goes down cause the ION code and wallet has so many work around a to get working. Nothing but a pain in he ass. Half the time it sits not functioning cause I can't monitor it 24 hours a day. It's garbage in other words.

I'll wait till the price rises and dump all them coins.

If ION is a step up from XPY, how the fuck did you people hold on to XPY for a year? ION is more than frustrating to deal with.

You haven't set it up correctly. My MasterNode has been up pretty much 24/7 now for around 55 days.

I'm not that technical but followed the FAQ's asked around in slack and was able to setup a remote VPS.

For me the only hassle I've had is they haven't added auto scrape yet so every few days I have to go in and do a manual transfer other than that it's a 10sec daily check.


My Shark masternode and staking wallet has been running with no problems for over 3 months now. Once I set them up with the help from the ION Community, they have been paying out block rewards daily like they were designed to do. Does need to implement a scrape address.

@Cryptobuds When did you start your MN? and provide proof you actually have one... Do you need help from his ionomy friends setting it up if it is not working as reported? Where did you get the instructions? Here is link to the ION wiki:

http://ionomy.wiki/index.php?title=How_to_guides

This is another good example of how you shill and others promote when discussing the same topic...

legendary
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Really show me the maths

Really fun to watch how shills who failed to show a shred of "maths" for any of their opportunity/vision/etc are demanding it of others. Like that "show me your masternode" bullshit too.

How about we start with you korvas. Show us the math of why ionomy is such a great "opportunity".

I'm guess he will either ignore this post or somehow attack your character or write something that has nothing to do with your post.  But I sure would love to see the maths.

How about this korvas, show us the maths that were used to calculate the ICO price. Also, show us the maths that made the team think they could pump out one game per month.

I don't mind responding any delay is down to me being busy...

You want me to show you how the ICO price was calculated...... Why do you need to know that ? and anyway I'm not an Ionomy employee

You want me to show you the maths that made the team think they could pump out one game per month. You know the answer to this question but choose to ignore so I'm not repeating common knowledge plus I don't understand where the maths come in


Why do I want to know the maths for the ICO? Cause I fuckingg asked it in the slack channel in the beginning, said they'd get back and didn't. I also asked on here, but I guess back then it wasn't cool to answer questions.

And I know the team switched gears with the games (after the got their ICO funds. And newcomers would t know this as it still says 1 game per month on the website. False advertising much?) but what reasoning did the use to figure on one game per month? Why would one ask said question? Shows a lot about the competence and management of the team. Which is EXTREMELY important before investing in ION as gaming is the core of ION.

Personally, I thought it was a half decent idea, if executed properly. I enjoy animation and modeling. I was kinda interested. But the side stepping of questions and trolling on their part turned me off. The slack channel reminded me of an old gentlemans club. If you weren't part of it your weren't really worth putting much effort towards. Maybe things have changed now, I don't pay attention too much. But in the beginning it was rather apparent that they didn't want outsiders and they had something to prove. But after interacting with you and WildShill, I wouldnt spend a single portion of a USD into ION, other than my converted, just as worthless XPY.

1 XPY today is worth $0.02. Ionomy gave you a chance to convert and you did. You've made a big profit and your unhappy,

How many XPY did you convert ?


Why would I tell you how many XPY I converted when you blow off my questions? I'd honestly love to hear your logic on the matter.

Now you've made 100%+ on your conversion from XPY to ION, I'm just trying to understand why you haven't cashed in and gone.

How do you know I made 100%+? How do you know how much I paid for my XPY? What if I paid $10 each for them during the height of the SEC possibly approving XPY? You don't have a clue.

Your right but what I do know is something is always better than nothing.

So

You bought a lot of XPY losing a shit ton money to Garza. Missed out on Ionomy and what coin you have left is worth 2 cents max...... Butt Hurt

OR

You have ION maybe enough to host a node and have spent the past year trying to destroy your investment...... Dumb Ass

Which is it ?  Butt Hurt, Dumb Ass or both

And you didn't lose a butt load of money to Garza with XPY? I guess that makes you butt hurt by your own definition.

Unless you were buddies with Garza and you didn't lose money to him cause you knew the plan all along. Since we're speculating and all here.
legendary
Activity: 2100
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Really show me the maths

Really fun to watch how shills who failed to show a shred of "maths" for any of their opportunity/vision/etc are demanding it of others. Like that "show me your masternode" bullshit too.

How about we start with you korvas. Show us the math of why ionomy is such a great "opportunity".

I'm guess he will either ignore this post or somehow attack your character or write something that has nothing to do with your post.  But I sure would love to see the maths.

How about this korvas, show us the maths that were used to calculate the ICO price. Also, show us the maths that made the team think they could pump out one game per month.

I don't mind responding any delay is down to me being busy...

You want me to show you how the ICO price was calculated...... Why do you need to know that ? and anyway I'm not an Ionomy employee

You want me to show you the maths that made the team think they could pump out one game per month. You know the answer to this question but choose to ignore so I'm not repeating common knowledge plus I don't understand where the maths come in


Why do I want to know the maths for the ICO? Cause I fuckingg asked it in the slack channel in the beginning, said they'd get back and didn't. I also asked on here, but I guess back then it wasn't cool to answer questions.

And I know the team switched gears with the games (after the got their ICO funds. And newcomers would t know this as it still says 1 game per month on the website. False advertising much?) but what reasoning did the use to figure on one game per month? Why would one ask said question? Shows a lot about the competence and management of the team. Which is EXTREMELY important before investing in ION as gaming is the core of ION.

Personally, I thought it was a half decent idea, if executed properly. I enjoy animation and modeling. I was kinda interested. But the side stepping of questions and trolling on their part turned me off. The slack channel reminded me of an old gentlemans club. If you weren't part of it your weren't really worth putting much effort towards. Maybe things have changed now, I don't pay attention too much. But in the beginning it was rather apparent that they didn't want outsiders and they had something to prove. But after interacting with you and WildShill, I wouldnt spend a single portion of a USD into ION, other than my converted, just as worthless XPY.

1 XPY today is worth $0.02. Ionomy gave you a chance to convert and you did. You've made a big profit and your unhappy,

How many XPY did you convert ?


Why would I tell you how many XPY I converted when you blow off my questions? I'd honestly love to hear your logic on the matter.

@CyberBuds It would be a a step closer to having a real discussion if you showed us your math for the profit/loss you have made with your ION Masternode? remember the MN that you were having troubles with daily maintenance Huh Is your investment holding currently in Dollars, PayCoin, BTC or IONs?

Again, you shill whales ask me for maths but refuse to present your own. Fuck off.

A real discussion was attempted a year ago, but it wasn't cool to answer questions back then.
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That is only a reflection if all things remain constant which never will. If every MN owner was dumping coins they were magically creating it would tank the market. I don't think you ever comprehended that statement, and by the looks of it, you never will.

You are correct, if all the investors wanted to remove their  Masternode investments (MN block rewards), the price would decease while the dumping is occurring...
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That is only a reflection if all things remain constant which never will. If every MN owner was dumping coins they were magically creating it would tank the market. I don't think you ever comprehended that statement, and by the looks of it, you never will.
hero member
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I'd be willing to bet that it's on purpose.

I'll take the bet... who's doing it on purpose Huh the PointlessOne Conspiracy uncovered Huh

I doubt you're that naive. This "profit" word slinging has been mentioned before.

But if you are that naive, I hope the investors (if any) that read your postings realize that it all should be taken with a grain of salt.

Here's my ION data for the bet...


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I doubt you're that naive. This "profit" word slinging has been mentioned before.

But if you are that naive, I hope the investors (if any) that read your postings realize that it all should be taken with a grain of salt.
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I'd be willing to bet that it's on purpose.

I'll take the bet... who's doing it on purpose Huh the PointlessOne Conspiracy uncovered Huh
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