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legendary
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There's a couple of things to bear in mind, in my opinion. Firstly, remember that MrCoins is a likely whale himself, and there's not many of them so it's in their interests to keep each other relatively sweet as if any one of them bales then it will drive their collective investment down in value. For that reason I think there's a certain amount of toleration of bullshit that goes on between them.

Secondly, remember that MrCoins is a seasoned investor, and not just in crypto. For all his happy-clappy-community-cheerleading-positivism, he knows exactly what's going on and has been around the block enough times to probably make very worthwhile suggestions behind the closed doors of the whale meetings, though whether the team actually act on that advice is a different matter.

Thirdly, and finally, I would bet my bottom dollar that even though he publicly presents himself as having lost out big time in XPY, he was shrewd enough to mitigate the loss in reality, and maybe even came out with profit. He's been involved in too many crypto communities to have not seen the signs, even when publicly he presented himself as otherwise. The other whales likely realise this and follow his lead to an extent because honestly, they're all driven by the same desire -- money.

How is it that being so smart he ends up investing in at least two shitty coins one after another? One outright scam and one... whatever this is, lame comedy of some sort.

He's eloquent in his shilling, I'll give him that (pivoting from "iond is fine" to "great decision to replace it" was as smooth as it gets) but I find it hard to believe he's both smart AND putting a lot of BTC into this. He's either smart and is trolling them, or dumb as a rock and actually pouring money into this shitshow.

Anyway, this is where the new clone is coming from:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/txtransfer-bittrex-multipool-android-postormn-stealth-1203975
http://transfercoin.io/

where is it stated they are cloning that? or is it inferred. does this mean no more dash meets blackcoin or whatever?

what happened to their smart devs and technology breakthroughs? if its cloned its been done and thus not a breakthrough. also you arent a dev if you dont make new stuff. see research and development means making new. cloning isnt new... you are a programmer but not a dev. ions shit. they should just give up use their ico cash to buy gamecredits or digibyte which are gaming coins. based on ion,atom holdings distribute those bought coins and work on a game platform. its clear they cant handle a coin that had no reason to be born. they only made a coin cause like all other icos they can make free money.

ps - korvas and wildshill quiet lately. im taking silence as them being embarrassed and not wanting to commit. jan 14 is mid jan so unfortunately korvas has to strongly question them his words. please report the outcome of that korvas.
legendary
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There's a couple of things to bear in mind, in my opinion. Firstly, remember that MrCoins is a likely whale himself, and there's not many of them so it's in their interests to keep each other relatively sweet as if any one of them bales then it will drive their collective investment down in value. For that reason I think there's a certain amount of toleration of bullshit that goes on between them.

Secondly, remember that MrCoins is a seasoned investor, and not just in crypto. For all his happy-clappy-community-cheerleading-positivism, he knows exactly what's going on and has been around the block enough times to probably make very worthwhile suggestions behind the closed doors of the whale meetings, though whether the team actually act on that advice is a different matter.

Thirdly, and finally, I would bet my bottom dollar that even though he publicly presents himself as having lost out big time in XPY, he was shrewd enough to mitigate the loss in reality, and maybe even came out with profit. He's been involved in too many crypto communities to have not seen the signs, even when publicly he presented himself as otherwise. The other whales likely realise this and follow his lead to an extent because honestly, they're all driven by the same desire -- money.

How is it that being so smart he ends up investing in at least two shitty coins one after another? One outright scam and one... whatever this is, lame comedy of some sort.

He's eloquent in his shilling, I'll give him that (pivoting from "iond is fine" to "great decision to replace it" was as smooth as it gets) but I find it hard to believe he's both smart AND putting a lot of BTC into this. He's either smart and is trolling them, or dumb as a rock and actually pouring money into this shitshow.

Anyway, this is where the new clone is coming from:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/txtransfer-bittrex-multipool-android-postormn-stealth-1203975
http://transfercoin.io/

They even have the same logo

let the blockchain breathe for big innovate.
legendary
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HODL
There's a couple of things to bear in mind, in my opinion. Firstly, remember that MrCoins is a likely whale himself, and there's not many of them so it's in their interests to keep each other relatively sweet as if any one of them bales then it will drive their collective investment down in value. For that reason I think there's a certain amount of toleration of bullshit that goes on between them.

Secondly, remember that MrCoins is a seasoned investor, and not just in crypto. For all his happy-clappy-community-cheerleading-positivism, he knows exactly what's going on and has been around the block enough times to probably make very worthwhile suggestions behind the closed doors of the whale meetings, though whether the team actually act on that advice is a different matter.

Thirdly, and finally, I would bet my bottom dollar that even though he publicly presents himself as having lost out big time in XPY, he was shrewd enough to mitigate the loss in reality, and maybe even came out with profit. He's been involved in too many crypto communities to have not seen the signs, even when publicly he presented himself as otherwise. The other whales likely realise this and follow his lead to an extent because honestly, they're all driven by the same desire -- money.

How is it that being so smart he ends up investing in at least two shitty coins one after another? One outright scam and one... whatever this is, lame comedy of some sort.

He's eloquent in his shilling, I'll give him that (pivoting from "iond is fine" to "great decision to replace it" was as smooth as it gets) but I find it hard to believe he's both smart AND putting a lot of BTC into this. He's either smart and is trolling them, or dumb as a rock and actually pouring money into this shitshow.

Anyway, this is where the new clone is coming from:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/txtransfer-bittrex-multipool-android-postormn-stealth-1203975
http://transfercoin.io/

They even have the same logo
legendary
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https://bpip.org
There's a couple of things to bear in mind, in my opinion. Firstly, remember that MrCoins is a likely whale himself, and there's not many of them so it's in their interests to keep each other relatively sweet as if any one of them bales then it will drive their collective investment down in value. For that reason I think there's a certain amount of toleration of bullshit that goes on between them.

Secondly, remember that MrCoins is a seasoned investor, and not just in crypto. For all his happy-clappy-community-cheerleading-positivism, he knows exactly what's going on and has been around the block enough times to probably make very worthwhile suggestions behind the closed doors of the whale meetings, though whether the team actually act on that advice is a different matter.

Thirdly, and finally, I would bet my bottom dollar that even though he publicly presents himself as having lost out big time in XPY, he was shrewd enough to mitigate the loss in reality, and maybe even came out with profit. He's been involved in too many crypto communities to have not seen the signs, even when publicly he presented himself as otherwise. The other whales likely realise this and follow his lead to an extent because honestly, they're all driven by the same desire -- money.

How is it that being so smart he ends up investing in at least two shitty coins one after another? One outright scam and one... whatever this is, lame comedy of some sort.

He's eloquent in his shilling, I'll give him that (pivoting from "iond is fine" to "great decision to replace it" was as smooth as it gets) but I find it hard to believe he's both smart AND putting a lot of BTC into this. He's either smart and is trolling them, or dumb as a rock and actually pouring money into this shitshow.

Anyway, this is where the new clone is coming from:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/txtransfer-bittrex-multipool-android-postormn-stealth-1203975
http://transfercoin.io/
full member
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serious question for all believers.

how can you sit there while mrcoins shills?

Isn't him saying the same things about this coin that he said about xpy a red flag?
MrCoins feeds them tons of BTC. They'll trust any word that comes out of his mouth. The coin could cease to exist and MrCoins would still say positive things about it. He only makes profit if he gets more people to invest.

I find it funny that during the XPY days he was shilling hardcore even though it was an obvious scam. Once shit "officially" hit the fan, he went and hid. Didn't face the music of all the damage he caused people by his rampant shilling. Then he pops back up and they convert all his coins for him and welcome him with open arms.

The team isn't stupid. They know he'll throw BTC after BTC at the team and BTC seems to be ultimately what they want to get.

I understand why the team uses him, i don't understand why the whales don't see his use as a big red flag. they don't see any of the other red flags either, but this one seems especially bad.

If mr coins said the sky was blue I would look out the window to double check.

He is doing the exact same shilling for this as he did for xpy, how could xpy bagholders not see this and be freaked out?

There's a couple of things to bear in mind, in my opinion. Firstly, remember that MrCoins is a likely whale himself, and there's not many of them so it's in their interests to keep each other relatively sweet as if any one of them bales then it will drive their collective investment down in value. For that reason I think there's a certain amount of toleration of bullshit that goes on between them.

Secondly, remember that MrCoins is a seasoned investor, and not just in crypto. For all his happy-clappy-community-cheerleading-positivism, he knows exactly what's going on and has been around the block enough times to probably make very worthwhile suggestions behind the closed doors of the whale meetings, though whether the team actually act on that advice is a different matter.

Thirdly, and finally, I would bet my bottom dollar that even though he publicly presents himself as having lost out big time in XPY, he was shrewd enough to mitigate the loss in reality, and maybe even came out with profit. He's been involved in too many crypto communities to have not seen the signs, even when publicly he presented himself as otherwise. The other whales likely realise this and follow his lead to an extent because honestly, they're all driven by the same desire -- money.
legendary
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serious question for all believers.

how can you sit there while mrcoins shills?

Isn't him saying the same things about this coin that he said about xpy a red flag?
MrCoins feeds them tons of BTC. They'll trust any word that comes out of his mouth. The coin could cease to exist and MrCoins would still say positive things about it. He only makes profit if he gets more people to invest.

I find it funny that during the XPY days he was shilling hardcore even though it was an obvious scam. Once shit "officially" hit the fan, he went and hid. Didn't face the music of all the damage he caused people by his rampant shilling. Then he pops back up and they convert all his coins for him and welcome him with open arms.

The team isn't stupid. They know he'll throw BTC after BTC at the team and BTC seems to be ultimately what they want to get.

I understand why the team uses him, i don't understand why the whales don't see his use as a big red flag. they don't see any of the other red flags either, but this one seems especially bad.

If mr coins said the sky was blue I would look out the window to double check.

He is doing the exact same shilling for this as he did for xpy, how could xpy bagholders not see this and be freaked out?
legendary
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https://bpip.org
I'm sure our dear whales will stop by to explain how they knew about this all along and asked hard questions and provided valuable feedback to the team.
full member
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so it was a stillbirth after all

what happened to the wallet being stable as hell? i remember reading mrcoins saying its the users fault if its crashing. you know since he is running 50 instances with no problems  Grin bittrex says no-go to the crappy wallet and suddenly its a real problem? your fellow ionites told you this for the past 6 months. oh yeah those muggles no need to listen to them. matlack said the wallet was "fine" to rdewilde just few weeks ago

MrCoins is now shilling hard for the rebase. Of course the "team" are heroes for uncovering such a nasty bug and fixing it so quickly. I'm hearing timelines from two weeks to a month (not sure if that's special ionomy whale time units though).

It's mighty coincidental that the issue was uncovered just around the same time when they said Bittrex will approve it in a couple of days. Did they find it out before or after they submitted it to Bittrex? Did the "team" or Bittrex find the issue? And how can the "team" that couldn't figure it out in 8 months now make it all work flawlessly within a couple of weeks? What are they going to replace the uber-advanced Blackcoin+Dash "hybrid" with?


This reversal in attitude in two weeks or so between saying 'it's fine, just get on with it' and 'this is massively important issue that needs fixing now' is stark. The fact that this very problem was discussed around the time they were talking up the recent submission to bittrex for review and dismissed should ring all sorts of alarm bells amongst the whales and bigger holders and signal that at the very least, there needs to be an honest discussion about how the 'team' is running the project and how much they actually value community input. Given their history as a community, they'll likely simply plug collective fingers in ears and careen on to the next misstep instead.
legendary
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HODL
serious question for all believers.

how can you sit there while mrcoins shills?

Isn't him saying the same things about this coin that he said about xpy a red flag?
MrCoins feeds them tons of BTC. They'll trust any word that comes out of his mouth. The coin could cease to exist and MrCoins would still say positive things about it. He only makes profit if he gets more people to invest.

I find it funny that during the XPY days he was shilling hardcore even though it was an obvious scam. Once shit "officially" hit the fan, he went and hid. Didn't face the music of all the damage he caused people by his rampant shilling. Then he pops back up and they convert all his coins for him and welcome him with open arms.

The team isn't stupid. They know he'll throw BTC after BTC at the team and BTC seems to be ultimately what they want to get.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1000
serious question for all believers.

how can you sit there while mrcoins shills?

Isn't him saying the same things about this coin that he said about xpy a red flag?
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org

so it was a stillbirth after all

what happened to the wallet being stable as hell? i remember reading mrcoins saying its the users fault if its crashing. you know since he is running 50 instances with no problems  Grin bittrex says no-go to the crappy wallet and suddenly its a real problem? your fellow ionites told you this for the past 6 months. oh yeah those muggles no need to listen to them. matlack said the wallet was "fine" to rdewilde just few weeks ago

MrCoins is now shilling hard for the rebase. Of course the "team" are heroes for uncovering such a nasty bug and fixing it so quickly. I'm hearing timelines from two weeks to a month (not sure if that's special ionomy whale time units though).

It's mighty coincidental that the issue was uncovered just around the same time when they said Bittrex will approve it in a couple of days. Did they find it out before or after they submitted it to Bittrex? Did the "team" or Bittrex find the issue? And how can the "team" that couldn't figure it out in 8 months now make it all work flawlessly within a couple of weeks? What are they going to replace the uber-advanced Blackcoin+Dash "hybrid" with?
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i smell bullshit. an incorrectly formed genesis block cmon. its a shitty daemon a shitty wallet. thats the issue. they are copy pasting from scratch hoping to have no mem leaks. if there was past block issues their wallet updates could run ruleset 1 till block x then new rulesets. so in the future if their copy paste doesnt work do they rebase again?

these retards are telling lies they are masters of fancy words. the truth is their wallet is stuffed so is the daemon and bittrex wont add due to this. they cant fix it cause they dont know how to. they are doing a recopy paste to fix and put some shitty news post up to confuse users.

hows their slack loving this?

The team can do know wrong in the eyes of the hardcore Ionites. I'll let you guess how much the slack is loving this.

To be honest most of the 15-20 or so guys who are consistently on the slack have been involved for so long now & are mostly either team members or whales anyway, so they aren't really likely to care about another month or so to wait. For what it's worth, I don't think this latest delay will have any effect on the success or failure of ionomy anyway, since there really isn't any outside expectation at this point for them to deliver anything. People who were on the fence at the beginning of the ICO will have long since chalked this up as vapourware, I would imagine.
legendary
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i smell bullshit. an incorrectly formed genesis block cmon. its a shitty daemon a shitty wallet. thats the issue. they are copy pasting from scratch hoping to have no mem leaks. if there was past block issues their wallet updates could run ruleset 1 till block x then new rulesets. so in the future if their copy paste doesnt work do they rebase again?

these retards are telling lies they are masters of fancy words. the truth is their wallet is stuffed so is the daemon and bittrex wont add due to this. they cant fix it cause they dont know how to. they are doing a recopy paste to fix and put some shitty news post up to confuse users.

hows their slack loving this?

The team can do know wrong in the eyes of the hardcore Ionites. I'll let you guess how much the slack is loving this.
legendary
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i smell bullshit. an incorrectly formed genesis block cmon. its a shitty daemon a shitty wallet. thats the issue. they are copy pasting from scratch hoping to have no mem leaks. if there was past block issues their wallet updates could run ruleset 1 till block x then new rulesets. so in the future if their copy paste doesnt work do they rebase again?

these retards are telling lies they are masters of fancy words. the truth is their wallet is stuffed so is the daemon and bittrex wont add due to this. they cant fix it cause they dont know how to. they are doing a recopy paste to fix and put some shitty news post up to confuse users.

hows their slack loving this?
full member
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seems like they needed a lot of alpha testing of gravity, do they really need no testing to see if everything works with the rebase?

They've apparently set themselves an 'aggressive target' of the 15th, but I'd honestly be shocked if it was complete by then. So the open beta for gravity or crypto gravity or whatever it's called is realistically probably not going to happen before early February. Oh well. I'm sure it'll be spun as miraculous, innovative and wonderful nonetheless in the meantime by the whales.
legendary
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so it was a stillbirth after all

what happened to the wallet being stable as hell? i remember reading mrcoins saying its the users fault if its crashing. you know since he is running 50 instances with no problems  Grin bittrex says no-go to the crappy wallet and suddenly its a real problem? your fellow ionites told you this for the past 6 months. oh yeah those muggles no need to listen to them. matlack said the wallet was "fine" to rdewilde just few weeks ago
legendary
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seems like they needed a lot of alpha testing of gravity, do they really need no testing to see if everything works with the rebase?
legendary
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https://bpip.org
ION is quite thoroughly fucked and needs to be restarted from scratch. But that's ok because that was always the plan.

https://news.ionomy.com/ion-timeline-update/
https://web.archive.org/web/20170107042749/https://news.ionomy.com/ion-timeline-update/

Oh, and send all coins to ionomy.

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we isolated a problem in the genesis block of ION that prevents us from implementing an update that’s crucial to listing on Bittrex. We need to update it before we can go live on Bittrex.

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this requires more than just a hard fork. It will take a full rebase of the code to generate a new blockchain

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Don’t want to deal with the technical complexity of importing your wallet.dat file into the rebased ION? [...] Anyone who sends their coins to their wallet address on ionomy.com before the scheduled snapshot can just send them back out once they’ve installed the new wallet.

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We have always planned to rebase the core ION code so that we could add side-chains and tokens. Converting Atoms and other platform assets into blockchain based assets has always been on our roadmap***. Implementing the rebase now brings us even closer to achieving this goal.

No target dates provided of course.



*** That's a lie unless they're talking about some secret whale roadmap and not this one: https://ionomy.com/about/roadmap
legendary
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https://bpip.org
did that detailed update happen yet?

Or is it not yet Friday in wherever they are located?

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To be fair, they didn't say which Friday exactly.
legendary
Activity: 1526
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did that detailed update happen yet?

Or is it not yet Friday in wherever they are located?
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