Topic: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! - page 44. (Read 473123 times)

I thought you wanted a professional exchange of information, why use someone else's comments when you don't say it's not you. Not very professional especially when you consider that sometimes you do specify.

Tell your friend when I post I'm not making anything thing up it's called me sharing an opinion, information or correcting a mistake.

I too am surprised they lack the conviction to post here or on discord. It's not like they have to post under their real name Ever thought they might be setting you up for a fall. You've been banned from discord meaning they could be feeding you any old rubbish. As your looking to troll you just lap it up then get made to look a fool when you post with conviction something that is quite clearly wrong.

If they are scared why don't they create a new alt and post here or on discord, why are you the conduit ? Are they really that scared ? Did they prompt you to post the wrong information about the reward changes or the HTML5 wallet. Ever thought about their motivations to post on your discord ? or is this just a disgruntled you fishing for stuff ?

Me making stuff up as a go along  that's pretty impressive when you consider I've been posting here for over 2.5 years .

You don't need to tell me that ION is shit. Are your "R & D members" incapacitated in some way? Why can't they post themselves?

I use knowledge obtained from Wild's Depot R & D members. You are welcome to join depot and add more value to this discussion point...

P5. The ION  project funds has been spent on development and sponsorship deals with disregard to  proper documentation and testing.

So who said that?

I don't try to claim these are my words. This was info sent to me on this discussion point. I agree with the content!

WildShark, you didn't write that, did you?

It's not cool to post someone else's words and pretend they're yours.

His response is hilarious. Brand building? What nonsense. They paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for a test? How is that meant to engender confidence in their decision making?

He’s making this up as he goes along. In the same hangout I referenced before, Matlack addresses the sponsorship deals and what he’s saying (‘we launch a racing game, we sponsor a racing car’) sounds suspiciously like sponsorship for promotion rather than brand building.

In Korvas’s head everything is a test if it flops, it seems. Gravity? That flopped, so it was a test (or ‘proof of concept’).
His projection of downloads for Rumble Arena is nonsense, too. He’s said the same thing about Gravity. The truth is that it’s a fun game, but if you’re being realistic, it’s probably not going to be a smash hit. It’s probably not going to have thousands of active users. That’s an unrealistic aim to expect of an indie dev making their first full time product.

Besides, the brand building/promotion is arguing semantics anyway. Even if we accept that this was brand building, how had it grown the brand? I’ve hardly seen an explosion in growth since they took on the sponsorships. The acquisition cost per user for those campaigns must be in the tens of thousands of dollars as a result. Ludicrous.

Wanted to respond earlier but the link I used was a dead link due to the software moving from beta to release all good now though  so..

Not really tripped up the wallet and IIPs are different. The HTML5 wallet is a replacement to the QT wallet. The HTML5 or QT wallet can run on any blockchain.  From what was discussed on discord the HTML5 solution is going to be a way better option than a new QT wallet when it comes to managing multiple tokens 

Concerning the Ionomy ecosystem it's evolving and evolving nicely. For instance do you use BOTs to trade if so you might find this useful. https://www.haasonline.com/

Look at the supported exchanges



Ask yourself why would ionomy focus on this  the answer is 'laying foundations' pretty exciting stuff    The Ionomy exchange is now natively supported by Haasonline

Which of your points would you like to discuss next ?

Looking looking at this as a sales promotion is WRONG. Darkmatter It's about building brands.- Ionomy, Off Road Heat, Darkmatter.   





Without dipping your feet it the water please enlighten me and explain how you would properly document and test this brand building exercise.

In the grand scheme of things the cost is peanuts where you compare it to Ionomy development costs.

P5. The ION  project funds has been spent on development and sponsorship deals with disregard to  proper documentation and testing.

I also take issue with the idea that they’ve so far focused on development and implementation and not promotion. They’ve been sponsoring motor races, which Matlack himself claimed cost hundreds of thousands of dollars (August hangout, about 37 mins in). That’s pretty big promotion, surely? If you’re not looking to promote the product yet - if that’s the game plan like Korvas is suggesting - why spend so much on it? Clearly they’re trying to promote the product, but it feels like so far that’s not been particularly successful.

Your need to look at the bigger picture.... So far what I know about the gaming element of ionomy is 

A Racing game - OffRoad Heat - Ionomy Studios
A Platform  game - Gravity - Ionomy Studios
A Endless Runner - The moon or bust - Ionomy Studios
A Beat em Up - Rumble Arena - Rekall Games

These games like other mobile titles don't just launch, they launch then evolve. When it comes to mobile games the launch is the start not the finish, development continues. From what has been launched and the tools they've developed specifically for game devs this is the start of something special that started as just an idea 3 years ago. How many ICO's started out as a good idea then fizzled out or a company with cash & resource stole the open source idea or copied and been better plus avoiding the mistakes of being first.... probably 95% NO OTHER COMPANY that positioned themselves as offering a crypto gaming solution 3 years ago has come close to what ionomy have already achieved.  :)I'm now expected to see copycat companies copying all or elements of the Ionomy vision

Rumble Arena has the potential to become a brilliant competitive multi player Beat em Up alla Super Smash Bros. Ion tournaments have yet to be implemented along with a whole host of other features. I suggest you get 3 friends together and have a 4 v 4 fight it's a blast... The current  version is a solid foundation to build on the playability is top notch. A projection of 1,000+ downloads is very low when you consider the game is  to be localised into Chinese, Arabic, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish.

Next on the launch list is Gravity



Ionomy studio's are at advanced alpha with Gravity -

3 Worlds
2 new guns
2 new armor suits
2 sets of boots
New enemies
New platform types
New game engine
Everything has been rebuilt from the ground up. no recycled code here. The first version of Gravity was a proof of concept. The business model works hence the total rewrite & game expansion

If anyone reading this interested in Ion/Ionomy they should at the very least maintain a watching brief and play some games making sure to  watch a few ADs so helping to fund the ion prize pools .... what a sweet business model.

I don't understand yr 4 reward is the same for both current and new. 5.75 ION overall with 2.875 being the MN portion. The changes to the reward structure kick in year 5 onwards. Old or New wallet the changes will be the same.

ION Blockchain Vulnerability - 4 yr. Coin Milestone - please send the Dark Matter bounty to Wild's Depot.

In less than 90 days, if a new ION wallet is not implemented then the current wallet will reduce the block rewards to 2.875 coins

Nope we are in year 3. Block reward is split 50% Masternodes 50% staking wallets.

So

5.75  Masternodes + 5.75 Staking wallets = 11.5 = Year 3

Your not factoring in the MN/staking wallet split 

This time last year your reward was 8.75 x 2 = 17 = Year 2

The updated whitepaper paper not yet published read the 

I just don’t understand Korvas. Rumble Arena might eventually have a couple of hundred players at the absolute most, but it’s still a very limited audience - and even then, you’re banking on them wanting to get into Ion as a result of playing the game, which likely only a small proportion of them will. The release of the game that is out now doesn’t appear to use Ion or Ionomy services at all, so all of the players who are using it are currently using it without any exposure at all to Ionomy. In addition - they might have 1000+ downloads, but when I checked a minute ago, there was only a handful online and no multiplayer lobbies open. So again, I wonder how many actual, active players it’ll end up with.

This is not to shit on the effort the devs have put into that game, by the way - it’s an ok game when you see it for what it is, which is the result of a pair of devs who have only just gone full time into game production. It’s highly unlikely to be a viral hit, but I’m sure the guys at Rekall Games are ok with that.

Your confused... Pretty sure today is year 3 Year 4 I think comes before year 5  i.e 90 + 365 days so that is less than 455 days to implement.

Your doing an excellent job of tripping yourself up. You are now contradicting yourself from last week when none of the ION Core Team's IIPs were being implemented in next wallet and the ION White Paper didn't need updating cause there is was no changes

The goal of this discussion is to explain how the ionomy ecosystem really is at this point in time to the cyrpto community and new investors. This includes when will all the approved IIPs be implemented?

Not my business plan I'm just an investor.

The proposed and approved change to the year 5 reward schedule is 1.85 to 5.75

https://github.com/ionomy/iips/blob/master/ION_IIP.pdf

You know this already as the proposals were first published on the 1st of June. I remember you were unhappy then about the fact that only self hosted masternode owners were able to vote. This then begs the question why do you ask me when you already know the answer The whitepaper will probably be updated nearer to when the changes happen 

 

P1. ION coin is under-valued with current investors

I think you better re-read my response to point P1.I don't see any cheap shots and I 'm amazed that you within one response you have degraded the discussion to a personnel complaint about me. Please focus on the information presented and don't look at the information being personnel to you... cause it's not... Please add substance to the discussion! If you don't know the answer, assist the knowledge in the ionomy technical chat rooms to assist you.

"I was unaware of the release of "first 3rd party game". Glad to see forward progress in the ionomy Vision on the gaming side for the coin. This hoax that you have to keep up about revealing information about the secret ionomy plans is rubbish. Your not very good about keeping that secret if you read your last paragraph giving the game plan away Huh The  project is undervalued because no one knows when the Team will poop out an ionomy product and what that product will functionally contain with the hope that the product is "acceptable" to the ION and ionomy communities. Confess up to there is no establish secret plan and let's move forward by releasing some substance to the public. The plan is a year behind in being executed because of lack of resources to tackle an changing development schedule.

You might find that reveling information about your business plan would actually bring in more ION investors to the game! Your hope of a title game  being produced by this team in the next ten years is slim to none.

In 3 months, the value of the ION coin will drop with the Block Reward being reduced. Could you please point me to the ION White Paper that describes the Block Reward schedule for year 5 of the ION Blockchain?. Wouldn't it be nice if the ION investors knew what the Block Reward Schedule is or is this ionomy secret plan information

The launch of the 3rd party game must have slipped under your radar, I think Ionomy announced the collaboration sometime in June/July.

Since it's inception Ionomy have always had this posture of secrecy there is No hoax about revealing information, it's just good business sense. . Let the competition see what you've done not what you are going to do.

You don't agree with this position that's fine but it's not rubbish.

Your right if Ionomy revealed everything now this would bring in more investment but that would be short term gain coupled with at best long term loss. In crypto like other tech industries 'Only the paranoid survive' I want Ionomy to be a leader in crypto not a pacemaker for someone else.

Yep Ionomy are late but that's what happens when you create something from nothing coupled with a commitment not to release shit. Implementation also creates new opportunities too.

Today in a $212 trillion crypto marketplace what other company offers something comparable to Ionomy V3 the answer is no one. Not really a surprise that a company with a $15 Million market cap would want to keep it's cards close to it's chest  

Whereas you on the other hand would give everything away and then wonder how your business failed knowing deep down that your arrogance was the root cause but not having the courage to admit it.... see I can do cheapshots too

Yawn why do you keep trying to trip me up or trying to insult me is that your motivation for discussion. I'm not giving anything away I'm just sharing my opinion. Gaming is the technology enabler not business...... Always believed this and always will it's what attracted me to ionomy  

Short term gain at the expense of everyone else that's you,,, dog eat dog right ?   Wanna carry on with the cheap shots or would you like to move on to the next question.