Topic: [ANN] [NAUT] Nautiluscoin - First Coin w/Stabilization Fund - Digishield - page 269. (Read 901853 times)
July 02, 2014, 07:32:01 AM
Anybody experiencing issues with their wallet syncing? Mine keeps getting stuck right at the end at 5 hrs behind, running the latest 64 bit QT.
July 02, 2014, 07:07:48 AM
Looking at the 4 hours chart here https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/mintpal/nautbtc it's obvious to anyone that the stability fund is working great. Obviously it can't do much during big movements, but in periods of relatively low volume the price is almost flatlined. I know that a lot of speculators don't like that, but for merchants it's very attractive.
Also, BK did you get any updates on the PoS timeline from the devs? I really hope they'll get it working this week!
Also, BK did you get any updates on the PoS timeline from the devs? I really hope they'll get it working this week!
July 02, 2014, 04:34:23 AM
Rgarding the idea with vouchers:
http://www.piggy-coin.com/voucher/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633803.800
Piggycoin sells vouchers on their webpage, where you can also redeem them. I guess we will run into legal difficulties here with the selling part, but the idea with vouchers is good. Also, we dont want a cute Pig on the voucher.
Vouchers with very small amounts could also be used as free giveaways. Then, you can redeem them on the Naut webpage, where it is explained how to use them, wallets etc.
If you put one NAUT in a free voucher that is like 10c per giveaway plus costs for printing. Still requires some money to have a significant effect obviously.
Doesn't Prypto offer something like this too? http://www.piggy-coin.com/voucher/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633803.800
Piggycoin sells vouchers on their webpage, where you can also redeem them. I guess we will run into legal difficulties here with the selling part, but the idea with vouchers is good. Also, we dont want a cute Pig on the voucher.
Vouchers with very small amounts could also be used as free giveaways. Then, you can redeem them on the Naut webpage, where it is explained how to use them, wallets etc.
If you put one NAUT in a free voucher that is like 10c per giveaway plus costs for printing. Still requires some money to have a significant effect obviously.
Also, on a different topic, Fitch was a fantastic guy to sponsor! I hope everyone follows his Twitter, as he's talking about Naut a great deal :-) He seems to really know a lot about cryptocurrencies, which I think was a concern to a lot of people in the beginning. Would be awesome if he wins on Saturday (he probably will!) and gives us a shout out!
I think BK said he was working with prypto already. I'm following Fitch on twitter and youtube, he seems to wear the NAUT logo and mention it whenever he can. His talk with David Seaman was interesting too, he was talking about the benefits of crypto and he genuinely believes in it. Haven't watched an MMA fight in a while but I'm looking forward to this one.
July 02, 2014, 04:20:04 AM
Rgarding the idea with vouchers:
http://www.piggy-coin.com/voucher/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633803.800
Piggycoin sells vouchers on their webpage, where you can also redeem them. I guess we will run into legal difficulties here with the selling part, but the idea with vouchers is good. Also, we dont want a cute Pig on the voucher.
Vouchers with very small amounts could also be used as free giveaways. Then, you can redeem them on the Naut webpage, where it is explained how to use them, wallets etc.
If you put one NAUT in a free voucher that is like 10c per giveaway plus costs for printing. Still requires some money to have a significant effect obviously.
Doesn't Prypto offer something like this too? http://www.piggy-coin.com/voucher/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633803.800
Piggycoin sells vouchers on their webpage, where you can also redeem them. I guess we will run into legal difficulties here with the selling part, but the idea with vouchers is good. Also, we dont want a cute Pig on the voucher.
Vouchers with very small amounts could also be used as free giveaways. Then, you can redeem them on the Naut webpage, where it is explained how to use them, wallets etc.
If you put one NAUT in a free voucher that is like 10c per giveaway plus costs for printing. Still requires some money to have a significant effect obviously.
Also, on a different topic, Fitch was a fantastic guy to sponsor! I hope everyone follows his Twitter, as he's talking about Naut a great deal :-) He seems to really know a lot about cryptocurrencies, which I think was a concern to a lot of people in the beginning. Would be awesome if he wins on Saturday (he probably will!) and gives us a shout out!
July 02, 2014, 04:14:11 AM
Rgarding the idea with vouchers:
http://www.piggy-coin.com/voucher/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633803.800
Piggycoin sells vouchers on their webpage, where you can also redeem them. I guess we will run into legal difficulties here with the selling part, but the idea with vouchers is good. Also, we dont want a cute Pig on the voucher.
Vouchers with very small amounts could also be used as free giveaways. Then, you can redeem them on the Naut webpage, where it is explained how to use them, wallets etc.
If you put one NAUT in a free voucher that is like 10c per giveaway plus costs for printing. Still requires some money to have a significant effect obviously.
Oh, and they have something like an online wallet (seems it is not working right now) to make things easier.
http://www.piggy-coin.com/voucher/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633803.800
Piggycoin sells vouchers on their webpage, where you can also redeem them. I guess we will run into legal difficulties here with the selling part, but the idea with vouchers is good. Also, we dont want a cute Pig on the voucher.
Vouchers with very small amounts could also be used as free giveaways. Then, you can redeem them on the Naut webpage, where it is explained how to use them, wallets etc.
If you put one NAUT in a free voucher that is like 10c per giveaway plus costs for printing. Still requires some money to have a significant effect obviously.
Oh, and they have something like an online wallet (seems it is not working right now) to make things easier.
July 02, 2014, 02:04:24 AM
Awesome to see so many exciting ideas being discussed! Keep it up guys
July 02, 2014, 01:44:47 AM
Nautiluscoin has moved up from #6 to #5 on coinwarz :-)
By the time it gets to 1, POW will be over, so they won't be able to add it.
My thoughts exactly.
I was wondering the same .. if this coin is going POS soon, what is the point of this voting ?
Recognition. Free advertising, and so on. There's a number of reasons. The more exposure the better.
Also, just because you can't mine something, doesn't mean we don't need exchanges to trade on.
July 01, 2014, 08:07:11 PM
Nautiluscoin has moved up from #6 to #5 on coinwarz :-)
By the time it gets to 1, POW will be over, so they won't be able to add it.
My thoughts exactly.
I was wondering the same .. if this coin is going POS soon, what is the point of this voting ?
Recognition. Free advertising, and so on. There's a number of reasons. The more exposure the better.
July 01, 2014, 07:47:21 PM
Nautiluscoin has moved up from #6 to #5 on coinwarz :-)
By the time it gets to 1, POW will be over, so they won't be able to add it.
My thoughts exactly.
I was wondering the same .. if this coin is going POS soon, what is the point of this voting ?
July 01, 2014, 07:46:40 PM
Thinkin outside the box here...would it be too crazy to have people come to the site, see a "get your Naut-y now" button. They click it and it takes them to a page where they purchase a Nautilus t-shirt. With the Nautilus shirt purchase they get, say, 50 "free" NAUT coins. Now, I know you techy guys are thinking I'm a G-D moron. Patience. Im new to this shite!
Wouldn't this eliminate the rule/law/infrastructure limiting people from buying NAUT direct with money? If so, would a voucher for said "free" coins upon tshirt purchase make sense or be allowed? Maybe, upon purchase of the tshirt the buyer has to register an account with MintPal, etc. So the steps would be...
They buy their shirt and get a voucher. Then, register an account at an exchange and type in their voucher (basically the voucher is a public wallet receive address) which "pings" Nautilus who then sends them the coins.
Too crazy? Too complicated? I like that it's scalable, provides additional exposure to the brand/product with t-shirt sales, and gets some "average-joes" (like my boy mjh712) easy access to the coin and alt-coin universe.
I like how you think! Wouldn't this eliminate the rule/law/infrastructure limiting people from buying NAUT direct with money? If so, would a voucher for said "free" coins upon tshirt purchase make sense or be allowed? Maybe, upon purchase of the tshirt the buyer has to register an account with MintPal, etc. So the steps would be...
They buy their shirt and get a voucher. Then, register an account at an exchange and type in their voucher (basically the voucher is a public wallet receive address) which "pings" Nautilus who then sends them the coins.
Too crazy? Too complicated? I like that it's scalable, provides additional exposure to the brand/product with t-shirt sales, and gets some "average-joes" (like my boy mjh712) easy access to the coin and alt-coin universe.
Maybe it will even be possible to set it up so that you can purchase the Nautiluscoin shirts either with Naut or with fiat. If you pay with fiat you will also get say 50 Naut sent to an address of your choice? That would be extremely easy to implement. I get that BK and his company can't sell Naut directly just yet as it has to be registered as an exchange and so on, but including a small amount of Naut in every purchase shouldn't pose any legal issues as far as I understand it. This is a very interesting idea -- I am going to see if we can implement it before the fight, no promises, but I will try.
July 01, 2014, 06:19:44 PM
while i agree naut needs to be easier to get from fiat somehow i think you guys are losing site of the fact that naut is not the next bitcoin. ( i dont mean that in a negative sense ).
we need to carve our own niche in this crypto space with Brian kelly capital catering to high net worth individuals and nautilus coin being pitched to wall street investors.
Maybe a good idea is marketing this coin to everyday people as the opportunity to get in before the big money moves into crypto which will eventually happen and getting dividends(staking coins).
we just need more exposure in social media, video sites like youtube, blog posts and articles,How to instructions that are easily read and received also how to videos.
Think Big my fellow nauts
we need to carve our own niche in this crypto space with Brian kelly capital catering to high net worth individuals and nautilus coin being pitched to wall street investors.
Maybe a good idea is marketing this coin to everyday people as the opportunity to get in before the big money moves into crypto which will eventually happen and getting dividends(staking coins).
we just need more exposure in social media, video sites like youtube, blog posts and articles,How to instructions that are easily read and received also how to videos.
Think Big my fellow nauts
July 01, 2014, 06:06:50 PM
Nautiluscoin has moved up from #6 to #5 on coinwarz :-)
By the time it gets to 1, POW will be over, so they won't be able to add it.
My thoughts exactly.
July 01, 2014, 06:00:50 PM
Nautiluscoin has moved up from #6 to #5 on coinwarz :-)
By the time it gets to 1, POW will be over, so they won't be able to add it.
July 01, 2014, 03:40:19 PM
Nautiluscoin has moved up from #6 to #5 on coinwarz :-)
July 01, 2014, 02:51:28 PM
This issue has been raised in the past few days, but not really addressed in detail. There are two major events going right now, the POS and the fight. One event is important to the altcoin enthusiasts who have a deep understanding of how these systems work, the other event is an attempt to introduce NAUT to a group of people who probably don't know the first thing about BTC, let alone altcoins.
For me, these events are completely unrelated and should be treated as such. The POS will strengthen our hand with altcoin savvy people, and will hopefully lead to some buying of NAUT from within the altcoin community.
However, MMA fans who will be watching the fight have no interest in the technical aspects of NAUT, and we would be wasting our breath trying to explain why POS is a big deal. The issues must remain separate. The exposure we will get from the fight will be relatively useless unless we can develop a mechanism for bringing those people into the fold (i.e. having them purchase NAUT). I would argue that the overwhelming majority of them would not be willing/able to take all the steps currently needed to purchase NAUT (I can only assume the police station idea was made in jest). This needs to be a major focus. If NAUT can be the coin that becomes readily available to the masses, it becomes a real winner. It was brought up in a previous post - it needs to be a few clicks and a credit card away.
People seem very certain that the exposure from this fight will have a huge and immediate effect on the price of the coin. While I own a bunch of NAUT and will be a long term holder, I do not necessarily buy this line of thinking. We need to make it easy for some guy sitting on his couch to own NAUT - directing him to a website that focuses on technical issues like POS, Digishield, etc., and making him go through multiple steps over the course of 4-5 days makes it extremely unlikely that this person will ever own NAUT.
I would appreciate any feedback on this topic, as I am new to the altcoin community and am trying to approach this in a practical, business-centric sense. The more people that pour money into NAUT, the more the currency appreciates, let's make it easier for this to happen!
BK - I would love to get your take on this issue
For me, these events are completely unrelated and should be treated as such. The POS will strengthen our hand with altcoin savvy people, and will hopefully lead to some buying of NAUT from within the altcoin community.
However, MMA fans who will be watching the fight have no interest in the technical aspects of NAUT, and we would be wasting our breath trying to explain why POS is a big deal. The issues must remain separate. The exposure we will get from the fight will be relatively useless unless we can develop a mechanism for bringing those people into the fold (i.e. having them purchase NAUT). I would argue that the overwhelming majority of them would not be willing/able to take all the steps currently needed to purchase NAUT (I can only assume the police station idea was made in jest). This needs to be a major focus. If NAUT can be the coin that becomes readily available to the masses, it becomes a real winner. It was brought up in a previous post - it needs to be a few clicks and a credit card away.
People seem very certain that the exposure from this fight will have a huge and immediate effect on the price of the coin. While I own a bunch of NAUT and will be a long term holder, I do not necessarily buy this line of thinking. We need to make it easy for some guy sitting on his couch to own NAUT - directing him to a website that focuses on technical issues like POS, Digishield, etc., and making him go through multiple steps over the course of 4-5 days makes it extremely unlikely that this person will ever own NAUT.
I would appreciate any feedback on this topic, as I am new to the altcoin community and am trying to approach this in a practical, business-centric sense. The more people that pour money into NAUT, the more the currency appreciates, let's make it easier for this to happen!
BK - I would love to get your take on this issue
How about verified ebay sellers as an option for these people. It can be done quite easily with minimal extra cost if customers are directed to sellers.
The ebay idea is thinking about it on the right scale. Bartering may be the easiest and fastest solution for some people, but it's not scalable. We're trying to get NAUT to hundreds of thousands of people. The new people that we need to attract to NAUT don't have friends they can barter with. They aren't going to setup a craiglist deal in a parking lot. IMO, we'd be better off telling people to give us their email and we'll let them know when NAUT is available to be purchased easily than turning them off completely by sending them on some 10 step journey. If people get to the site with the intent to buy and leave thinking it's way too complicated, we're worse off than we started.
Thinkin outside the box here...would it be too crazy to have people come to the site, see a "get your Naut-y now" button. They click it and it takes them to a page where they purchase a Nautilus t-shirt. With the Nautilus shirt purchase they get, say, 50 "free" NAUT coins. Now, I know you techy guys are thinking I'm a G-D moron. Patience. Im new to this shite!
Wouldn't this eliminate the rule/law/infrastructure limiting people from buying NAUT direct with money? If so, would a voucher for said "free" coins upon tshirt purchase make sense or be allowed? Maybe, upon purchase of the tshirt the buyer has to register an account with MintPal, etc. So the steps would be...
They buy their shirt and get a voucher. Then, register an account at an exchange and type in their voucher (basically the voucher is a public wallet receive address) which "pings" Nautilus who then sends them the coins.
Too crazy? Too complicated? I like that it's scalable, provides additional exposure to the brand/product with t-shirt sales, and gets some "average-joes" (like my boy mjh712) easy access to the coin and alt-coin universe.
That is a great idea, and more importantly, thinking about the problem in the right way
July 01, 2014, 02:48:09 PM
Thinkin outside the box here...would it be too crazy to have people come to the site, see a "get your Naut-y now" button. They click it and it takes them to a page where they purchase a Nautilus t-shirt. With the Nautilus shirt purchase they get, say, 50 "free" NAUT coins. Now, I know you techy guys are thinking I'm a G-D moron. Patience. Im new to this shite!
Wouldn't this eliminate the rule/law/infrastructure limiting people from buying NAUT direct with money? If so, would a voucher for said "free" coins upon tshirt purchase make sense or be allowed? Maybe, upon purchase of the tshirt the buyer has to register an account with MintPal, etc. So the steps would be...
They buy their shirt and get a voucher. Then, register an account at an exchange and type in their voucher (basically the voucher is a public wallet receive address) which "pings" Nautilus who then sends them the coins.
Too crazy? Too complicated? I like that it's scalable, provides additional exposure to the brand/product with t-shirt sales, and gets some "average-joes" (like my boy mjh712) easy access to the coin and alt-coin universe.
I like how you think! Wouldn't this eliminate the rule/law/infrastructure limiting people from buying NAUT direct with money? If so, would a voucher for said "free" coins upon tshirt purchase make sense or be allowed? Maybe, upon purchase of the tshirt the buyer has to register an account with MintPal, etc. So the steps would be...
They buy their shirt and get a voucher. Then, register an account at an exchange and type in their voucher (basically the voucher is a public wallet receive address) which "pings" Nautilus who then sends them the coins.
Too crazy? Too complicated? I like that it's scalable, provides additional exposure to the brand/product with t-shirt sales, and gets some "average-joes" (like my boy mjh712) easy access to the coin and alt-coin universe.
Maybe it will even be possible to set it up so that you can purchase the Nautiluscoin shirts either with Naut or with fiat. If you pay with fiat you will also get say 50 Naut sent to an address of your choice? That would be extremely easy to implement. I get that BK and his company can't sell Naut directly just yet as it has to be registered as an exchange and so on, but including a small amount of Naut in every purchase shouldn't pose any legal issues as far as I understand it. Great idea! I wonder if Jon Fitch has any gear he wants to sell this way too. Not sure if there's licensing issues with MMA but could be a big opportunity.
July 01, 2014, 02:43:23 PM
This issue has been raised in the past few days, but not really addressed in detail. There are two major events going right now, the POS and the fight. One event is important to the altcoin enthusiasts who have a deep understanding of how these systems work, the other event is an attempt to introduce NAUT to a group of people who probably don't know the first thing about BTC, let alone altcoins.
For me, these events are completely unrelated and should be treated as such. The POS will strengthen our hand with altcoin savvy people, and will hopefully lead to some buying of NAUT from within the altcoin community.
However, MMA fans who will be watching the fight have no interest in the technical aspects of NAUT, and we would be wasting our breath trying to explain why POS is a big deal. The issues must remain separate. The exposure we will get from the fight will be relatively useless unless we can develop a mechanism for bringing those people into the fold (i.e. having them purchase NAUT). I would argue that the overwhelming majority of them would not be willing/able to take all the steps currently needed to purchase NAUT (I can only assume the police station idea was made in jest). This needs to be a major focus. If NAUT can be the coin that becomes readily available to the masses, it becomes a real winner. It was brought up in a previous post - it needs to be a few clicks and a credit card away.
People seem very certain that the exposure from this fight will have a huge and immediate effect on the price of the coin. While I own a bunch of NAUT and will be a long term holder, I do not necessarily buy this line of thinking. We need to make it easy for some guy sitting on his couch to own NAUT - directing him to a website that focuses on technical issues like POS, Digishield, etc., and making him go through multiple steps over the course of 4-5 days makes it extremely unlikely that this person will ever own NAUT.
I would appreciate any feedback on this topic, as I am new to the altcoin community and am trying to approach this in a practical, business-centric sense. The more people that pour money into NAUT, the more the currency appreciates, let's make it easier for this to happen!
BK - I would love to get your take on this issue
For me, these events are completely unrelated and should be treated as such. The POS will strengthen our hand with altcoin savvy people, and will hopefully lead to some buying of NAUT from within the altcoin community.
However, MMA fans who will be watching the fight have no interest in the technical aspects of NAUT, and we would be wasting our breath trying to explain why POS is a big deal. The issues must remain separate. The exposure we will get from the fight will be relatively useless unless we can develop a mechanism for bringing those people into the fold (i.e. having them purchase NAUT). I would argue that the overwhelming majority of them would not be willing/able to take all the steps currently needed to purchase NAUT (I can only assume the police station idea was made in jest). This needs to be a major focus. If NAUT can be the coin that becomes readily available to the masses, it becomes a real winner. It was brought up in a previous post - it needs to be a few clicks and a credit card away.
People seem very certain that the exposure from this fight will have a huge and immediate effect on the price of the coin. While I own a bunch of NAUT and will be a long term holder, I do not necessarily buy this line of thinking. We need to make it easy for some guy sitting on his couch to own NAUT - directing him to a website that focuses on technical issues like POS, Digishield, etc., and making him go through multiple steps over the course of 4-5 days makes it extremely unlikely that this person will ever own NAUT.
I would appreciate any feedback on this topic, as I am new to the altcoin community and am trying to approach this in a practical, business-centric sense. The more people that pour money into NAUT, the more the currency appreciates, let's make it easier for this to happen!
BK - I would love to get your take on this issue
How about verified ebay sellers as an option for these people. It can be done quite easily with minimal extra cost if customers are directed to sellers.
The ebay idea is thinking about it on the right scale. Bartering may be the easiest and fastest solution for some people, but it's not scalable. We're trying to get NAUT to hundreds of thousands of people. The new people that we need to attract to NAUT don't have friends they can barter with. They aren't going to setup a craiglist deal in a parking lot. IMO, we'd be better off telling people to give us their email and we'll let them know when NAUT is available to be purchased easily than turning them off completely by sending them on some 10 step journey. If people get to the site with the intent to buy and leave thinking it's way too complicated, we're worse off than we started.
I hope moolah registration takes a day or so and not weeks.
Has anybody finished the due diligence (https://v2.moolah.io/due-diligence) at Moolah.io to see if you can buy NAUT for Fiat directly there yet?
Their due diligence makes sense from a business stand point trying to cover it's own liability.
Someone should try. I would but I can't until my passport arrives.
I recently moved so I don't have any new address mailings.
Don't forget to vote!
www.coinwarz.com/voting
July 01, 2014, 02:40:51 PM
This issue has been raised in the past few days, but not really addressed in detail. There are two major events going right now, the POS and the fight. One event is important to the altcoin enthusiasts who have a deep understanding of how these systems work, the other event is an attempt to introduce NAUT to a group of people who probably don't know the first thing about BTC, let alone altcoins.
For me, these events are completely unrelated and should be treated as such. The POS will strengthen our hand with altcoin savvy people, and will hopefully lead to some buying of NAUT from within the altcoin community.
However, MMA fans who will be watching the fight have no interest in the technical aspects of NAUT, and we would be wasting our breath trying to explain why POS is a big deal. The issues must remain separate. The exposure we will get from the fight will be relatively useless unless we can develop a mechanism for bringing those people into the fold (i.e. having them purchase NAUT). I would argue that the overwhelming majority of them would not be willing/able to take all the steps currently needed to purchase NAUT (I can only assume the police station idea was made in jest). This needs to be a major focus. If NAUT can be the coin that becomes readily available to the masses, it becomes a real winner. It was brought up in a previous post - it needs to be a few clicks and a credit card away.
People seem very certain that the exposure from this fight will have a huge and immediate effect on the price of the coin. While I own a bunch of NAUT and will be a long term holder, I do not necessarily buy this line of thinking. We need to make it easy for some guy sitting on his couch to own NAUT - directing him to a website that focuses on technical issues like POS, Digishield, etc., and making him go through multiple steps over the course of 4-5 days makes it extremely unlikely that this person will ever own NAUT.
I would appreciate any feedback on this topic, as I am new to the altcoin community and am trying to approach this in a practical, business-centric sense. The more people that pour money into NAUT, the more the currency appreciates, let's make it easier for this to happen!
BK - I would love to get your take on this issue
For me, these events are completely unrelated and should be treated as such. The POS will strengthen our hand with altcoin savvy people, and will hopefully lead to some buying of NAUT from within the altcoin community.
However, MMA fans who will be watching the fight have no interest in the technical aspects of NAUT, and we would be wasting our breath trying to explain why POS is a big deal. The issues must remain separate. The exposure we will get from the fight will be relatively useless unless we can develop a mechanism for bringing those people into the fold (i.e. having them purchase NAUT). I would argue that the overwhelming majority of them would not be willing/able to take all the steps currently needed to purchase NAUT (I can only assume the police station idea was made in jest). This needs to be a major focus. If NAUT can be the coin that becomes readily available to the masses, it becomes a real winner. It was brought up in a previous post - it needs to be a few clicks and a credit card away.
People seem very certain that the exposure from this fight will have a huge and immediate effect on the price of the coin. While I own a bunch of NAUT and will be a long term holder, I do not necessarily buy this line of thinking. We need to make it easy for some guy sitting on his couch to own NAUT - directing him to a website that focuses on technical issues like POS, Digishield, etc., and making him go through multiple steps over the course of 4-5 days makes it extremely unlikely that this person will ever own NAUT.
I would appreciate any feedback on this topic, as I am new to the altcoin community and am trying to approach this in a practical, business-centric sense. The more people that pour money into NAUT, the more the currency appreciates, let's make it easier for this to happen!
BK - I would love to get your take on this issue
How about verified ebay sellers as an option for these people. It can be done quite easily with minimal extra cost if customers are directed to sellers.
The ebay idea is thinking about it on the right scale. Bartering may be the easiest and fastest solution for some people, but it's not scalable. We're trying to get NAUT to hundreds of thousands of people. The new people that we need to attract to NAUT don't have friends they can barter with. They aren't going to setup a craiglist deal in a parking lot. IMO, we'd be better off telling people to give us their email and we'll let them know when NAUT is available to be purchased easily than turning them off completely by sending them on some 10 step journey. If people get to the site with the intent to buy and leave thinking it's way too complicated, we're worse off than we started.
I hope moolah registration takes a day or so and not weeks.
Has anybody finished the due diligence (https://v2.moolah.io/due-diligence) at Moolah.io to see if you can buy NAUT for Fiat directly there yet?
Their due diligence makes sense from a business stand point trying to cover it's own liability.
Someone should try. I would but I can't until my passport arrives.
July 01, 2014, 02:37:01 PM
Thinkin outside the box here...would it be too crazy to have people come to the site, see a "get your Naut-y now" button. They click it and it takes them to a page where they purchase a Nautilus t-shirt. With the Nautilus shirt purchase they get, say, 50 "free" NAUT coins. Now, I know you techy guys are thinking I'm a G-D moron. Patience. Im new to this shite!
Wouldn't this eliminate the rule/law/infrastructure limiting people from buying NAUT direct with money? If so, would a voucher for said "free" coins upon tshirt purchase make sense or be allowed? Maybe, upon purchase of the tshirt the buyer has to register an account with MintPal, etc. So the steps would be...
They buy their shirt and get a voucher. Then, register an account at an exchange and type in their voucher (basically the voucher is a public wallet receive address) which "pings" Nautilus who then sends them the coins.
Too crazy? Too complicated? I like that it's scalable, provides additional exposure to the brand/product with t-shirt sales, and gets some "average-joes" (like my boy mjh712) easy access to the coin and alt-coin universe.
I like how you think! Wouldn't this eliminate the rule/law/infrastructure limiting people from buying NAUT direct with money? If so, would a voucher for said "free" coins upon tshirt purchase make sense or be allowed? Maybe, upon purchase of the tshirt the buyer has to register an account with MintPal, etc. So the steps would be...
They buy their shirt and get a voucher. Then, register an account at an exchange and type in their voucher (basically the voucher is a public wallet receive address) which "pings" Nautilus who then sends them the coins.
Too crazy? Too complicated? I like that it's scalable, provides additional exposure to the brand/product with t-shirt sales, and gets some "average-joes" (like my boy mjh712) easy access to the coin and alt-coin universe.
Maybe it will even be possible to set it up so that you can purchase the Nautiluscoin shirts either with Naut or with fiat. If you pay with fiat you will also get say 50 Naut sent to an address of your choice? That would be extremely easy to implement. I get that BK and his company can't sell Naut directly just yet as it has to be registered as an exchange and so on, but including a small amount of Naut in every purchase shouldn't pose any legal issues as far as I understand it. July 01, 2014, 02:36:42 PM
This issue has been raised in the past few days, but not really addressed in detail. There are two major events going right now, the POS and the fight. One event is important to the altcoin enthusiasts who have a deep understanding of how these systems work, the other event is an attempt to introduce NAUT to a group of people who probably don't know the first thing about BTC, let alone altcoins.
For me, these events are completely unrelated and should be treated as such. The POS will strengthen our hand with altcoin savvy people, and will hopefully lead to some buying of NAUT from within the altcoin community.
However, MMA fans who will be watching the fight have no interest in the technical aspects of NAUT, and we would be wasting our breath trying to explain why POS is a big deal. The issues must remain separate. The exposure we will get from the fight will be relatively useless unless we can develop a mechanism for bringing those people into the fold (i.e. having them purchase NAUT). I would argue that the overwhelming majority of them would not be willing/able to take all the steps currently needed to purchase NAUT (I can only assume the police station idea was made in jest). This needs to be a major focus. If NAUT can be the coin that becomes readily available to the masses, it becomes a real winner. It was brought up in a previous post - it needs to be a few clicks and a credit card away.
People seem very certain that the exposure from this fight will have a huge and immediate effect on the price of the coin. While I own a bunch of NAUT and will be a long term holder, I do not necessarily buy this line of thinking. We need to make it easy for some guy sitting on his couch to own NAUT - directing him to a website that focuses on technical issues like POS, Digishield, etc., and making him go through multiple steps over the course of 4-5 days makes it extremely unlikely that this person will ever own NAUT.
I would appreciate any feedback on this topic, as I am new to the altcoin community and am trying to approach this in a practical, business-centric sense. The more people that pour money into NAUT, the more the currency appreciates, let's make it easier for this to happen!
BK - I would love to get your take on this issue
For me, these events are completely unrelated and should be treated as such. The POS will strengthen our hand with altcoin savvy people, and will hopefully lead to some buying of NAUT from within the altcoin community.
However, MMA fans who will be watching the fight have no interest in the technical aspects of NAUT, and we would be wasting our breath trying to explain why POS is a big deal. The issues must remain separate. The exposure we will get from the fight will be relatively useless unless we can develop a mechanism for bringing those people into the fold (i.e. having them purchase NAUT). I would argue that the overwhelming majority of them would not be willing/able to take all the steps currently needed to purchase NAUT (I can only assume the police station idea was made in jest). This needs to be a major focus. If NAUT can be the coin that becomes readily available to the masses, it becomes a real winner. It was brought up in a previous post - it needs to be a few clicks and a credit card away.
People seem very certain that the exposure from this fight will have a huge and immediate effect on the price of the coin. While I own a bunch of NAUT and will be a long term holder, I do not necessarily buy this line of thinking. We need to make it easy for some guy sitting on his couch to own NAUT - directing him to a website that focuses on technical issues like POS, Digishield, etc., and making him go through multiple steps over the course of 4-5 days makes it extremely unlikely that this person will ever own NAUT.
I would appreciate any feedback on this topic, as I am new to the altcoin community and am trying to approach this in a practical, business-centric sense. The more people that pour money into NAUT, the more the currency appreciates, let's make it easier for this to happen!
BK - I would love to get your take on this issue
How about verified ebay sellers as an option for these people. It can be done quite easily with minimal extra cost if customers are directed to sellers.
The ebay idea is thinking about it on the right scale. Bartering may be the easiest and fastest solution for some people, but it's not scalable. We're trying to get NAUT to hundreds of thousands of people. The new people that we need to attract to NAUT don't have friends they can barter with. They aren't going to setup a craiglist deal in a parking lot. IMO, we'd be better off telling people to give us their email and we'll let them know when NAUT is available to be purchased easily than turning them off completely by sending them on some 10 step journey. If people get to the site with the intent to buy and leave thinking it's way too complicated, we're worse off than we started.
I hope moolah registration takes a day or so and not weeks.
Has anybody finished the due diligence (https://v2.moolah.io/due-diligence) at Moolah.io to see if you can buy NAUT for Fiat directly there yet?
Their due diligence makes sense from a business stand point trying to cover it's own liability.
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