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If the ICO has legs to run, it makes little difference if the token sold is 80 mil or 60 mil, or 40 mil or 100 mil.
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We been literally lied to. 80~ million were not available to public during pre-ico crowd sale. Only 60~ million. Now who owns the other 20~ million worth of coins. Private investors ya say... NDA non-disclosure. Can't say! FK ME. As an accounting business with this ethics/morals and working is a middle finger to ya face.

I dont know what to believe anymore... Such mixed reactions about the token sale.. I wouldn't be surprised tho if this is just a way to start panic and try to get the coins cheap at the dip. But if its true, its really sad because there are already a lot of scammers.

Anyone knows if there is a trusted website where there is a blacklist of scams, so we wont make the same mistakes twice?
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OMG.. ICO finished already? I missed this (
I seen on their site, that ICO will be on October 15.. What happen?  Undecided
Nothing happen just sold out in quick sell  Smiley

Missed to invest in this ICO, when the token tradeable and on what exchange?

Tokens will be distributed in around 2 weeks if I remember correctly.

In which exchanges tokens will be trading? They announced some of them already?
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And now after ico success we have fudsters Smiley

They just want to make you panic and buy your tokens low prices.


Don't fall for that.
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OMG.. ICO finished already? I missed this (
I seen on their site, that ICO will be on October 15.. What happen?  Undecided
Nothing happen just sold out in quick sell  Smiley

Missed to invest in this ICO, when the token tradeable and on what exchange?

Tokens will be distributed in around 2 weeks if I remember correctly.
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By the way, what's Clif High said about PayPie in his latest report?

Any one or two statements from the report that you guys can quote?
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OMG.. ICO finished already? I missed this (
I seen on their site, that ICO will be on October 15.. What happen?  Undecided
Nothing happen just sold out in quick sell  Smiley

Missed to invest in this ICO, when the token tradeable and on what exchange?
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OMG.. ICO finished already? I missed this (
I seen on their site, that ICO will be on October 15.. What happen?  Undecided
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Unfortunately I missed out on this ICO so looks like I will be buying any quick dumps  Grin

I'm sorry that you missed the train but forget about getting the coins cheap.
Sorry mate

You are nutz. The missing 26 million coins unaccounted for are going to be dump on the market making it lowwer than ico price.

Sorry mate but those coins are not for dump propuse but for keep and use it.

Ill tel you again.  Sorry that u missed the train!
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We been literally lied to. 80~ million were not available to public during pre-ico crowd sale. Only 60~ million. Now who owns the other 20~ million worth of coins. Private investors ya say... NDA non-disclosure. Can't say! FK ME. As an accounting business with this ethics/morals and working is a middle finger to ya face.
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Well, as usual, after the ICO we get a bit of mixed emotions. People happy, because they were able to participate, unhappy because they missed out or were tricked to send their funds to wrong addresses, words of praise and FUD. Now we have to wait for announcements from the team, exchange listings and that roadmap I mentioned before.
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You are nutz. The missing 26 million coins unaccounted for are going to be dump on the market making it lowwer than ico price.

I don't believe the team will be that short-sighted.

Their project still has a long way to go with their large customer base.
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Typical of bad company that can't deliver on promises... no response from the CEO or team. Once they are done with ICO and got their money. It's goodbye community. Unlike popolous, the owner steve actually replies on forums and telegram on criticism and such.

Now you know Populous is better.
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Unfortunately I missed out on this ICO so looks like I will be buying any quick dumps  Grin

I'm sorry that you missed the train but forget about getting the coins cheap.
Sorry mate
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Typical of bad company that can't deliver on promises... no response from the CEO or team. Once they are done with ICO and got their money. It's goodbye community. Unlike popolous, the owner steve actually replies on forums and telegram on criticism and such.

Calm it down with your fud newbie account only just created and only comments are fud on this project, clearly you did not get in on the ico and trying to drivebprices down.

Lol. Rather have an honest team/company to begin with. Just pisses me off, how they played us literally last minute when ICO opened and didn't clarify the situation that is 26 million coins were not going to be for sale to the public and have been given to "private partners". BS. And with no record. As an accounting company. WTF. Making it seem that it was sold during the pre-ico to public crowd.
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Typical of bad company that can't deliver on promises... no response from the CEO or team. Once they are done with ICO and got their money. It's goodbye community. Unlike popolous, the owner steve actually replies on forums and telegram on criticism and such.

Calm it down with your fud newbie account only just created and only comments are fud on this project, clearly you did not get in on the ico and trying to drivebprices down.
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Typical of bad company that can't deliver on promises... no response from the CEO or team. Once they are done with ICO and got their money. It's goodbye community. Unlike popolous, the owner steve actually replies on forums and telegram on criticism and such.
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First, I wanna say that I do really appreciate @Nick and @Yohan for being willing to answer questions even when you’ve already been asked the same thing over and over every single day. And you have been very accommodating to the communities needs. Mucho appreciated.

Now onto issues:

I got a bonus and I wasn't even expecting one. Cool. Unfortunately, what isn’t cool, is the Paypie team said one thing and did another. Bonuses were supposed to go to the smaller contributors. But that's not what happened.  The payee team did not release the bonus structure openly for everyone to review until right before the pre-sale started. At the time, I honestly didn’t think much about until now. Now when I really stop and think about it everything, it all seems kind of shady how this whole thing has played out.

So lets review:

This morning a email was sent out right before the crowdsale with this Note attached to the bottom:


“Note: we have signed a deal with a strategic partner for contributing to the platform's development in a long term commitment. The terms of the agreement are confidential and this partnership is one of the most valuable things that could have happened for the platform's progress. We just wanted to share that bit with the community before the pre-sale. Future looks bright!”



According to the white paper, 82,500,500 PPP tokens would be available for the crowdsale.

1ETH = 909 PPP tokens(0.0011 ETH = 1 PPP)


Smart Contract? Yes

82,500,000 PPP Max Hard cap for Crowdsale

4,500,000  PPP soft cap minimum req for crowdsale

27,500,000 PPP for Team and Advisors

55,000,000 PPP for Industry Reserve to help develop partnerships and future acquisitions to become a dominant market leader.

Accoring the the contract ETH provided to us today (0xf8A15b1540d5f9D002D9cCb7FD1F23E795c2859d) = (0xF821Fd99BCA2111327b6a411C90BE49dcf78CE0f)


61,082 ETH was contributed publicly which means 55,523,538 PPP tokens were bought publicly.

This leave 26,976, 462 tokens left that are unaccounted for.


Hypothetically, If everyone had gotten a bonus of 5%(we all know that didn’t happen) then that would then give contributors as a whole 1,348,823 PPP tokens. But that still would leave 25,627,639 PPP tokens left.

This begs the question, why wasn’t this transaction or set of transactions of roughly 26,976,62 PPP tokens recorded on the blockchain at the same time as and under the same contract address as the rest of the crowd sale?? And if this was a strategic partnership deal as stated in the thank you email this morning, then why didn’t the paypie team  use the INDUSTRY RESERVE tokens of 55,000,000 to make this deal instead of taking from the crowdsale AND also at the same time renege on a earlier agreement of giving smaller donors a bonus?Huh The argument that giving everyone a bonus is not really a bonus is very shallow argument and a slap in the face to small investors. Because if going off of that logic, then I see no reason why Paypie shouldn’t have been able to stick to the original agreement which gave the smaller donors the bonus and none for the larger donors.
 
Also why did you feel that you had to make a SECRET NDA deal with business individuals to advance the company along?  How are we to trust that you have investors and also future customer’s  best interest at heart when nothing about the deal has been disclosed???   How is anyone supposed to be okay with that and be expected to just blindly trust you? This is a new era guys and what would have been acceptable in the old fiat, large corporation way of doing business, is NOT okay in the blockchain era. Blockchain requires transparency and the was the absolute opposite.

This wasn’t in the white paper guys and you need to make it right.

Until they give a proper response. I'm advising everyone to raise awareness.

-- If these unaccounted and missing coins were for private investors for partnership, why was it not allocated to the "partnership portion"?
-- Why were they give special limits more than the max agreement of 75 eth?
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A wonderful start and a very strong team, has been unable to wait on the line trading
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