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Topic: [ANN] PHO Photon blake256- MERGE MINE 6 COINS- NO PREMINE - POW ONLY 4+ YRS - page 7. (Read 99218 times)

legendary
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That "management team" or the Photon19 "Leadership" has been doing some really questionable/unethical behaviors I was right back in December and although I gave them the benefit of doubt time has proven they are not to be trusted!!!

people can read if they like and make up own mind and if anyone want the pm/dm/messages from me just ask no issues making any of it public as I have not done anything wrong and my 4+ year track record proves more than some new multi account person(s)

They cant be trusted its a FACT as their own actions prove!!!


Proof it! I will proof you lied about this to. The management team is open for everyone also writers SmileySmiley
We did a lot with photon19. A website a roadmap a whitepaper and we brought 2.2k people together.
That was not possible with a wrong leadership.... And you know how?... i did not much in the team,it was moreme and bennybitcoiner.
So give your followers proof before it reaches a great magazine.

Yes you made photon and you made the code. But what you must not bring people's lives in danger by spreading lies.

Photon has now a name because of Photon19.

You told me you still have health issues from that time that they saw you as a scammer because that fake blake256 coin
How you can do the same to me and my family?Huh

Ok lets pick this apart with some basic logic

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    A website

You did not pay Lukas first thing I found out when joined telegram and fabrice who also worked on it did not get any pay too

My Actions = Paid them

Lukas: 5Mil PHO = TXid: 2ab982d2e81d6d99775249e90ae6ab1ae370ea6d5d099a6d745632b28479d143
Fabrice: 1Mil PHO = TXid: 71ef8a4388755d926a1bbe5de5e536c25336202ce6fd2aa30e3cf575c8554eb2
             4Mil PHO = TXid: 562bebdcd913326b5aa0b580254a9e73dfdfae5e827f0efb412f2c114f4d6577 *just so it was fair between the two

why they work with me? because I have not bs them and respect hard work!

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    whitepaper

bs this was work by Aaron and I was talking with him myself he is also helping out with new draft too for real community its still a wip and does need to be approved by both me and cinnamon


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    roadmap

Incomplete with unrealistic vague goals/timeline

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    2.2k people together

oh great but if you not pay people for work you are *Using* then they will leave as they started to do


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    i did not much in the team,it was moreme and bennybitcoiner

from the messages you shared *not what I been told*

1. Did not want to pay Joshua for CS:GO server costs or extra work he was out of pocket for
2. you claim not leadership yet both Moreme and Benny reported to you and you offered to pay them 250k euro each for work doing management *again not paid
3. you are leadership one minute(2.2k) then next you are not hmm something does not add or is that just me  Roll Eyes
4. Benny walked out as you had started to act questionable/unethical by accusing them for just telling about bills for actual roll out of servers which you asked for (e.g Joshua) and Moreme was also half way out as could not deal with your issues
5. you admit you really did not do work in your own statement here and people working hard to create a community of 2.2k are Benny+Moreme *ok cool saves me telling people the truth then  Tongue

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    Yes you made photon and you made the code. But what you must not bring people's lives in danger by spreading lies.

Lies where I have stuck with FACTS as you confirm

when asked for names of the people that want to do you/family harm you said via yet another account(wife?)


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BlueDragon747, [04.02.18 14:41]
what names are these people who say want to kill you?

Dali, [04.02.18 14:41]
People looking for me

Dali, [04.02.18 14:41]
[In reply to BlueDragon747]
I do not know

BlueDragon747, [04.02.18 14:41]
?

Dali, [04.02.18 14:41]
There are a lot

BlueDragon747, [04.02.18 14:42]
how can you not know?

Dali, [04.02.18 14:42]
A lot I deleted

Dali, [04.02.18 14:42]
[In reply to BlueDragon747]
Stop this bullshit oke

Dali, [04.02.18 14:42]
[In reply to BlueDragon747]
You read it to

Dali, [04.02.18 14:42]
You need to fix this in public

Dali, [04.02.18 14:42]
Not with talking with one person

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    Photon has now a name because of Photon19.

I am pretty sure Photon had same name at release almost 4 years ago but I guess Photon19 is a time machine too  Shocked


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    You told me you still have health issues from that time that they saw you as a scammer because that fake blake256 coin
    How you can do the same to me and my family?Huh

I have done nothing to your family or you!!!!!

I dont agree with people making threats to anyone and I dont expect to get them in return for working on an open source project!

yet

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Dali, [05.02.18 10:29]
Your last chance beforeI start

Dali, [05.02.18 10:35]
Ps: keep remember I will visit you

Dali, [05.02.18 11:02]
You bring yourself in big problems

Dali, [05.02.18 11:03]
So the game is start....

Dali, [05.02.18 11:04]
Hahahah you do not know what you do

Dali, [04.02.18 20:48]
This is a wonderful movie for outsiders

Dali, [04.02.18 20:49]
Let's see who will fuck who up.

Dali, [05.02.18 12:01]
😁😁😁 It isn going the good way and this is just the begin😁😁😁


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and as for things like

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Dali, [05.02.18 16:12]
I am now talking with bitcoin magazine and forklock

good I look forward to reading it and the exposure it will bring and then suing them for slander if its based on what you have said to me!!!!

I wonder who really has not been truthful and is hiding things and not paying people what was offered

Its not me thats for sure  Grin



jr. member
Activity: 224
Merit: 2
"popcorn.gif"

I'll give the management team a bit of credit for helping me make a decent return on my mining, It could have been quite a bit bigger if cryptopia didn't suspend ltc trading when they did, but anyone could see that photon was never going to be a big coin.  The sheer volume of coins pretty much made sure of that. 
The whole Blake ecosystem of merge mined coins is pretty interesting to me and some of the in-game transaction concept is pretty interesting as well.  If it's incorporated into the game itself and can be used as a wager between teams it's pretty awesome.  That doesn't change that the coin could never really be valued at more than 1 or 2 sats in the long run because with block rewards as large as they are there is a never ending supply being constantly dumped on exchanges. 
You see it all the time with coins that have a low value and a huge supply where people are coming in and buying a few, trying to create a hype around it to drive up the price and then offloading what they bought.  I guess it can be good because it gives the coin some attention for a period of time, but at the same time it could be bad because after it crashes you end up with a lot of pissed off people either dumping at a loss or forgetting that they have a bunch of coins and they're left with a bad taste in their mouth.
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 0
That "management team" or the Photon19 "Leadership" has been doing some really questionable/unethical behaviors I was right back in December and although I gave them the benefit of doubt time has proven they are not to be trusted!!!

people can read if they like and make up own mind and if anyone want the pm/dm/messages from me just ask no issues making any of it public as I have not done anything wrong and my 4+ year track record proves more than some new multi account person(s)

They cant be trusted its a FACT as their own actions prove!!!


Proof it! I will proof you lied about this to. The management team is open for everyone also writers SmileySmiley
We did a lot with photon19. A website a roadmap a whitepaper and we brought 2.2k people together.
That was not possible with a wrong leadership.... And you know how?... i did not much in the team,it was moreme and bennybitcoiner.
So give your followers proof before it reaches a great magazine.

Yes you made photon and you made the code. But what you must not bring people's lives in danger by spreading lies.

Photon has now a name because of Photon19.

You told me you still have health issues from that time that they saw you as a scammer because that fake blake256 coin
How you can do the same to me and my family?Huh
legendary
Activity: 1509
Merit: 1030
Solutions Architect
That "management team" or the Photon19 "Leadership" has been doing some really questionable/unethical behaviors I was right back in December and although I gave them the benefit of doubt time has proven they are not to be trusted!!!

people can read if they like and make up own mind and if anyone want the pm/dm/messages from me just ask no issues making any of it public as I have not done anything wrong and my 4+ year track record proves more than some new multi account person(s)

They cant be trusted its a FACT as their own actions prove!!!
jr. member
Activity: 40
Merit: 1
Please see https://www.photoncc.com/ for an official response / explanation.
jr. member
Activity: 40
Merit: 1
Management Team Photon is a scam account. Please no one even bother reading this crap. Just ignore.
newbie
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The Beginning and the end of Photon and the blake256 coins

This explanation is important for everyone who lost money and for everyone who thinks about investing in a coin of bluedragon. Read this to know that they lied

People want me silenced because i know the lies they are spreading
The problem with photon started because bluedragon and 2 others shared lies. I will show the lies of the big dev of the Blake256 coin.

I will explain what is going on and why it is recently not going well with photon.

It al started around February. Juan and i founded this coin.

We always meditate before we take big choices like choosing a coin
It was a dead coin. No whitepaper, no website, no roadmap, no real community no real future because both devs are not working hard to make photon a great coin. They are working with 6 coins so for them it was very difficult to manage all coins.

Around the 24th of December 2017 photon had grown a lot. I invested 30 dollar and that was almost 3000 dollar by then. Because of this I said thanks to the devs : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=478136.440 Post 460.

We couldn't find any reason for the growing.
On the 26th od December juan asked the first time to help the devs. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=478136.480  post 484

We contacted Cinnamon Carter on twitter to asked for an ok or green light and if she wanted to join us.
https://twitter.com/PhotonCoin/status/944972260108111872
https://twitter.com/PhotonCoin/status/945811197634412544

She told us she was too shy to join a telegram group. So we tried our best without her.

In three days we had around 500 people in our telegram group. It was chaotic. There where a lot of people that wanted to help us with the website, the new logo and marketing. We started a management team where people talk together how to make photon better.

Everyone can join our management chat now, to read how we did everything.

https://t.me/joinchat/HTiC3k4p0iUokMRA_r5WVA

You will read that there was no mismanage, you will read that me, photon Antonio, and photon juan never played the bosses. We told everyone from the beginning that we can’t make a great website, no whitepaper, no roadmap, so there's almost nothing we can do for photon. The only thing we did a lot was talking with people on the main chat and also with bluedragon. It was our idea to make a telegram group that would bring people together that could work for us, like slaves.


Bleudragon also told it is a opensource project, where everyone can contribute to make photon big
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=478136.500 post 509


on the 28th of december we made our first announcement. That was about the airdrop:
 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=478136.500 post 519

on the 29th of december we had our second message about what we did

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=478136.520   post 528

Yes, we made a mistake to call us developers but that was because we had a team with developers.
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=478136.520  post 536

It's better to read the reaction of bluedragon and me after this link. The red lines are written by myself.
Because of this we changed our team name to : Management team of photon.


This was the first time bleudragon started to work against us :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=478136.540 post 550

This was the first time cinnamon carter tweeted bad about us:

https://twitter.com/PhotonCoin/status/947991562767814656

We were already started because they told everyone it was an open source. It was not possible to stop anymore because people already invested in photon. The community was already + 700 people.
We did our job in the management team and I talked to bluedragon, a lot on bitcoin talk to get his ok/green light. There was not a possibility that they could stop us that time because it was a open source project.


read also this :
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=478136.560  post 576

On 2 January we saw tweets from Cinnamon carter:
https://twitter.com/PhotonCoin/status/948387244485894145
https://twitter.com/PhotonCoin/status/951673516948180993

After that she tweeted positive about us :
https://twitter.com/PhotonCoin/status/953146879465918464

Bleudragon gives us management team ok/green light on bitointalk. Now it is deleted but I have a print screen.
https://ibb.co/gQSPqc
Read his next messages so you know he gives also his ok/green light : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=478136.560  post 574 - 575 -576  ( I am happy I quote a lot)
Everyone can read after 3 January how bleudragon talked with me without negativity.
The same day he tweeted positive about us: https://twitter.com/BlakeCoin/status/948519080763457537


Juan and me do not have knowledge how to to make a coin big.
We had great team members in our management team that helps us and photon a lot.
Juan and I did almost nothing. We did not management the team because everyone did what they can do.
Making a website, making new logo, making banners, making memes and more. We al did something.

The website was going online with the whitepaper and roadmap.
One of our team members was in direct contact with bleu because (for showing respect to him we wanted his ok/green light) we asked his ok for the whitepaper.
The last day that we needed the whitepaper for our site he told he was ok with it but now he must ask cinnamon for her ok.

The devteam putted the site online with the whitepaper and roadmap without the ok of cinnamon
Bleudragon sended a message to a team member of our team. He was not happy to see the whitepaper online. The team took it offline after that.


The same day 1 / 2  guys ( moreme (moreofthesame) and Bennybitcoiner)  from the management team went to bleudragon and starting spreading lies about our telegram group.
I will show proof why they tried to push juan and me away if bleudragon not would change his direction fast.

Moreme started after that a new telegram for bleudragon and they start spreading lies about photon 19, juan and me
They called me scammer pump and dumper, liar and more
Now they not saying anymore I am a pump and dumper, I am a scammer or  I am a lier because they can see there are a lot of people seeing they are spreading lies to STEAL the first photon community.
I had spoken with a lot of people the first day private. There are still 2k members in photon 19.
There is a reason why there is still not so much people in Blake community even if they used the website link to send people to their community. I am trusted as they see 2k member here.

They never thought about it that they would bring me juan and my family in danger because of there lies.
I lost friends in real life because these lies and I must look out for people that want to “kill”me, juan and my woman. This will be big news in crypto land 😊. People love drama story’s. Very bad for blake256coins…
They thought I was going to let this go.
This is just the beginning. I will share my story on more places. I give bleudragon the time to fix this. I talked maybe total 7 hours with him and I have also proof of that conversation. He told me crazy things…… and he tried to fix this on a crazy way to safe his himself and the blake256 coins…….
I will share everything the next days if he does not fix this fast.

This is a proof that they say that is was not true that we were not authorized to start this telegram group. There are a lot of lies. They will be publiced these next .days
There is a lot of proof in the management chat to see that it is not true what they are spreading about me.

We will continue with Photon and we will do our best to find investors who want to take over this project. Photon WAS a great coin and it will be a great coin again.


https://t.me/photon19/60731 to read my first statement
legendary
Activity: 1509
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Solutions Architect
Just found out about Photon.
What would it take to get on the Coinomi wallet? Couple that with a new website/roadmap - that could really put Photon on the map.
Also, once things get moving, are there any thought about a coin burn?
Just some random thoughts.

time they have backlog and I also need to sort the community out but I have been in contact with Coinomi

working on new revised roadmap and the new draft of the whitepaper is in works but does need to be approved by me and Cinnamon *with me taking charge and sorting the mess out a solid release is more likely than before

No coin burn is planned ever, I can create a burn address if people want to throw coins into oblivion out of your own pockets  Roll Eyes

Edit:
Burn Address: Photon (PHO): BaBurnXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXYHr33S

**warning you cannot get your coins back if you send to that address no one has the keys
newbie
Activity: 14
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Just found out about Photon.
What would it take to get on the Coinomi wallet? Couple that with a new website/roadmap - that could really put Photon on the map.
Also, once things get moving, are there any thought about a coin burn?
Just some random thoughts.
legendary
Activity: 1509
Merit: 1030
Solutions Architect
switching from pow to pos makes much more sense and would be better for the coin/price as a whole.
pow is pretty much useless for underdogs like this as there is little incentives to mine it in the first place since the coins mined doesn't even cover electricity.
pos on the other hand, people would have an incentive to hold and utilize the coin instead of merely as a trading vehicle.
I looked at the CS shop as well, and it's practically empty. I doubt there's much volume in that either.

as many coin as there are in circulation, it would be far more beneficial for both the current holders and potential new investors.
to be able to lock away a large portion away while it pays out interests and support the network at the same time.
right now if you want to trade the coins on cryptopia, the bid is 2sat, sell is 3sat. a huge 50% spread.

pandacoin (a pos coin) for example has far more coins out there, not anymore development than photon, yet the marketcap is far greater.
because people are not hurry to sell them.

pow is really getting obsolete these days for all but a few dozen coins.

There will be no algo switching POW works great

I don't quite understand, how mining to a pool will give me 6 different coins. Do I need to install the 6 different wallets in order to receive mined coins

yes each chain is totally independent so needs its own wallets


Is there any plans to change the algo now that there is an ASIC coming out to blow these coins out?

no algo change we are not trying to be resistant to gpu/fpga/asic  

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In other news due to drama from the same hijackers that made themselves known in December I have been forced to step in and sort the mess out before things get too bad and the real volunteers leave due to very questionable behaviors by the "Leadership" of the photon19 chat group

Together with community volunteer(dev/admins) and real community members have formed a new Telegram chat Here this is Official chat and I will be monitoring and available for chat in that group

over next few days hope to get things back on track and under control of course with help of community too

  • roadmap is in talks for changes
  • Whitepaper is on hold
  • cs:go is fine and with real community
  • photoncc.com website is under real community control and outstanding bill for code paid, hope it will get updated soon
  • currently no airdrop is planed as imho was scam

please be patient and understanding while things are in talks and being worked on

newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
switching from pow to pos makes much more sense and would be better for the coin/price as a whole.
pow is pretty much useless for underdogs like this as there is little incentives to mine it in the first place since the coins mined doesn't even cover electricity.
pos on the other hand, people would have an incentive to hold and utilize the coin instead of merely as a trading vehicle.
I looked at the CS shop as well, and it's practically empty. I doubt there's much volume in that either.

as many coin as there are in circulation, it would be far more beneficial for both the current holders and potential new investors.
to be able to lock away a large portion away while it pays out interests and support the network at the same time.
right now if you want to trade the coins on cryptopia, the bid is 2sat, sell is 3sat. a huge 50% spread.

pandacoin (a pos coin) for example has far more coins out there, not anymore development than photon, yet the marketcap is far greater.
because people are not hurry to sell them.

pow is really getting obsolete these days for all but a few dozen coins.
legendary
Activity: 1509
Merit: 1030
Solutions Architect
I don't quite understand, how mining to a pool will give me 6 different coins. Do I need to install the 6 different wallets in order to receive mined coins

yes each chain is totally independent so needs its own wallets


Is there any plans to change the algo now that there is an ASIC coming out to blow these coins out?

no algo change we are not trying to be resistant to gpu/fpga/asic  

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


In other news due to drama from the same hijackers that made themselves known in December I have been forced to step in and sort the mess out before things get too bad and the real volunteers leave due to very questionable behaviors by the "Leadership" of the photon19 chat group

Together with community volunteer(dev/admins) and real community members have formed a new Telegram chat Here this is Official chat and I will be monitoring and available for chat in that group

over next few days hope to get things back on track and under control of course with help of community too

  • roadmap is in talks for changes
  • Whitepaper is on hold
  • cs:go is fine and with real community
  • photoncc.com website is under real community control and outstanding bill for code paid, hope it will get updated soon
  • currently no airdrop is planed as imho was scam

please be patient and understanding while things are in talks and being worked on
jr. member
Activity: 224
Merit: 2
Is there any plans to change the algo now that there is an ASIC coming out to blow these coins out?
newbie
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90 Billion coins it is a lot
jr. member
Activity: 224
Merit: 2
I don't quite understand, how mining to a pool will give me 6 different coins. Do I need to install the 6 different wallets in order to receive mined coins or can blakecoin wallet hold photon? Additionally, will I be missing out on lithium, for example, if I were to start mining without a lithium wallet set up?

I plan to merge mine, can't wait to see what coins are added next.

Also why are people accusing bluedragon as a greedy bastard when clearly there have been 4 years of development of the coin, just look at the graph it tells the whole story...


edit:

the website seems to be down, I still need to create an account and set up a miner, last thing I got was 'investigating issues in the backend'

I did it a while back.  It didn't take too long to set up the electron, lithium, blakebitcoin, blakecoin, photon and UMO wallets.  When you mine on their pool you actually get paid in all the coins at the same time.  As of right now I think all the coins except blakebitcoin and electron can be exchanged on cryptopia for btc.  It's pretty cool how they set it all up.
newbie
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Merit: 0
I don't quite understand, how mining to a pool will give me 6 different coins. Do I need to install the 6 different wallets in order to receive mined coins or can blakecoin wallet hold photon? Additionally, will I be missing out on lithium, for example, if I were to start mining without a lithium wallet set up?

I plan to merge mine, can't wait to see what coins are added next.

Also why are people accusing bluedragon as a greedy bastard when clearly there have been 4 years of development of the coin, just look at the graph it tells the whole story...


edit:

the website seems to be down, I still need to create an account and set up a miner, last thing I got was 'investigating issues in the backend'
newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
only problem is the bajillion coins in circulation
jr. member
Activity: 224
Merit: 2

Looks really good.  I loath micro transactions in games but this puts a pretty cool spin on it where you could mine the coin to be able to do the transactions.  Pretty neat.
sr. member
Activity: 518
Merit: 258
This coin is really great. the course goes up and up. who is there will get a good profit in the future. the team is always very active. I think that can really be a good project . good luck
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