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QoraKnight

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Quote from: gorillajam on June 11, 2014, 05:50:34 PM

Dude you are nuts, people really didn't have strong anti feelings about trading on NXT but you and also being against NXT is not some sensible stance but a Bizzare position to have. I personally was ambilivemt cause I don't like using NXT asset exchange but I like most had no real problem with it.

The main voting we had on this thread was if they wanted you to fuck off and quite quickly the votes came in.

We kind of hoped you would follow though though and indeed fuck off.

gorilla,

Thanks to the new voting system feature, we don't need to have an argument over this one.
How about we put the issues to a vote?

1. Do you want QoraKnight to fuck off and leave Qora thread forever?
2. Do you want gorillajam to fuck off and leave Qora thread forever?

That will be our first vote in the Qora client. Is that okay with you?

If the majority wants me to leave forever, I will abide by that decision and leave Qora thread alone. But if they want you to leave, will you leave us alone too?

gorillajam

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win

Quote from: QoraKnight on June 11, 2014, 05:45:53 PM

Quote from: dzarmush on June 11, 2014, 05:39:24 PM

You haven't earned any respect yet. Your respect level was at Zero point when you appeared here. Not it's below Zero. Somewhere in -100. You've got a lot of work to do to get back at least to Zero point.

Sorry, but you're obviously confused. This is not about respect, but what the majority wants.

Here is a simple question for you, if the majority tells you not to promote your project in Qora thread, will you abide by that decision?

We will do it in the voting system.

Dude you are nuts, people really didn't have strong anti feelings about trading on NXT but you and also being against NXT is not some sensible stance but a Bizzare position to have. I personally wasn't interested cause I don't like using NXT asset exchange but I like most had no real problem with it.

The main voting we had on this thread was if they wanted you to fuck off and quite quickly the votes came in.

We kind of hoped you would follow though though and indeed fuck off.

QoraKnight

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Quote from: dzarmush on June 11, 2014, 05:39:24 PM

You haven't earned any respect yet. Your respect level was at Zero point when you appeared here. Not it's below Zero. Somewhere in -100. You've got a lot of work to do to get back at least to Zero point.

Sorry, but you're obviously confused. This is not about respect, but what the majority wants.

Here is a simple question for you, if the majority tells you not to promote your project in Qora thread, will you abide by that decision?

We will do it in the voting system.

I dont care whether you respect my personal opinion or not. However, if the majority say NO to you inside Qora client, will you respect their decision? That is the real question.

gorillajam

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Quote from: QoraKnight on June 11, 2014, 05:33:05 PM

Hey guys,

I am calling for a truce. Now we have a voting system inside qora, we can easily settle our difference. There will be no more need for name calling or argument since consensus can be reached via voting.

Peace~

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Quote from: peled1986 on June 11, 2014, 05:32:48 PM

Quote from: QoraKnight on June 11, 2014, 05:27:47 PM

Thank you again, qora, for helping us. You have my appreciation, and I promise I will behave and not cause you any headache again.

+1 (its quoted now so please keep your word)

I will do as I said, but you have to agree to put everything to a vote too. I was simply frustrated because I felt my opinion was not respected at all, and I was clearly ignored.

That's because your opinion was not respected and yes we were trying to ignore you.

peled1986

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Quote from: dzarmush on June 11, 2014, 05:39:24 PM

You haven't earned any respect yet. Your respect level was at Zero point when you appeared here. Not it's below Zero. Somewhere in -100. You've got a lot of work to do to get back at least to Zero point.

he promised to behave and not cause any headache again so you can give him that - now he is @ -99
if he apologize to you personally he will be @ 0

QoraKnight

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Quote from: peled1986 on June 11, 2014, 05:38:24 PM

Quote from: QoraKnight on June 11, 2014, 05:33:05 PM

I will do as I said, but you have to agree to put everything to a vote too.

even if I agree it does not mean everyone agrees.
you need to understand there will always be some people with different opinions and you can't force your opinion on them.
if someone want to open a gateway and trade on the nxt AE there is nothing you, me or a vote can do about it.

I think you guys clearly misunderstood me. I have no problem with the fact that dzarmush had a NXT AE gateway, it's just that I felt it was inappropriate for dzarmush to promote his project in the Qora thread since it might give people the impression that this gateway is endorsed by the Qora community and push people to trade there. The truth is a lot of us simply does not want any association with Nxt.

So how about we do things like this --

Let's say we have a vote inside Qora client "Should Qora be traded on NXT AE as a NXT asset? Yes or No?" And if majority of people say no, you will not promote your project here.

Does that sound reasonable to you?

dzarmush

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Quote from: QoraKnight on June 11, 2014, 05:33:05 PM

Hey guys,

I am calling for a truce. Now we have a voting system inside qora, we can easily settle our difference. There will be no more need for name calling or argument since consensus can be reached via voting.

Peace~

===================================================

Quote from: peled1986 on June 11, 2014, 05:32:48 PM

Quote from: QoraKnight on June 11, 2014, 05:27:47 PM

Thank you again, qora, for helping us. You have my appreciation, and I promise I will behave and not cause you any headache again.

+1 (its quoted now so please keep your word)

I will do as I said, but you have to agree to put everything to a vote too. I was simply frustrated because I felt my opinion was not respected at all, and I was clearly ignored.

You haven't earned any respect yet. Your respect level was at Zero point when you appeared here. Not it's below Zero. Somewhere in -100. You've got a lot of work to do to get back at least to Zero point.

peled1986

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Quote from: QoraKnight on June 11, 2014, 05:33:05 PM

I will do as I said, but you have to agree to put everything to a vote too.

even if I agree it does not mean everyone agrees.
you need to understand there will always be some people with different opinions and you can't force your opinion on them.
if someone wants to open a gateway and trade on the nxt AE there is nothing you, me or a vote can do about it.

Quote from: dzarmush on June 11, 2014, 05:36:57 PM

It'll only affect the main direction i.e. marketing fund spendings.

and qora next developments of course Cheesy

dzarmush

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Quote from: QoraKnight on June 11, 2014, 05:33:05 PM

Hey guys,

I am calling for a truce. Now we have a voting system inside qora, we can easily settle our difference. There will be no more need for name calling or argument since consensus can be reached via voting.

Peace~

It doesn't matter what the voting results would be anyway. It'll only affect the main direction i.e. marketing fund spendings.

Qora is a decentrilized system, and every single part of it can do whatever it wants. If one wants to make his own Qora website or desktop/mobile/web client or gateway or whatever you should f**k off and let it go.

qora

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Quote from: Vrontis on June 11, 2014, 05:28:43 PM

Quote from: Vrontis on June 10, 2014, 07:48:15 PM

I have figured out what was wrong with the Win 7 64bit machine.It was held the wallet into the sandbox.
I will try to see if I can dig a little deeper in that to find what exactly it has been put into the sandbox.

Thanks

The below files went into the sandbox and have blocked the sync.
run.bat
Qora.jar

I have dismissed them.

Also one question regarding the restoring addresses proceed (restore seed).Is there an option to restore only addresses with balance !=0 ?
And is there a maximum number of address per seed?

Thanks

There is no option to only recover addresses with a balance.
The amount of addresses per wallet seed is limited to 2 147 483 647 .

QoraKnight

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Hey guys,

I am calling for a truce. Now we have a voting system inside qora, we can easily settle our difference. There will be no more need for name calling or argument since consensus can be reached via voting.

Peace~

===================================================

Quote from: peled1986 on June 11, 2014, 05:32:48 PM

Quote from: QoraKnight on June 11, 2014, 05:27:47 PM

Thank you again, qora, for helping us. You have my appreciation, and I promise I will behave and not cause you any headache again.

+1 (its quoted now so please keep your word)

I will do as I said, but you have to agree to put everything to a vote too. I was simply frustrated because I felt my opinion was not respected at all, and I was clearly ignored.

peled1986

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Quote from: QoraKnight on June 11, 2014, 05:27:47 PM

Thank you again, qora, for helping us. You have my appreciation, and I promise I will behave and not cause you any headache again.

+1 (its quoted now so please keep your word)

Vrontis

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Quote from: Vrontis on June 10, 2014, 07:48:15 PM

I have figured out what was wrong with the Win 7 64bit machine.It was held the wallet into the sandbox.
I will try to see if I can dig a little deeper in that to find what exactly it has been put into the sandbox.

Thanks

The below files went into the sandbox and have blocked the sync.
run.bat
Qora.jar

I have dismissed them.

Also one question regarding the restoring addresses process (restore seed).Is there an option to restore only addresses with balance !=0 ?
And is there a maximum number of address per seed?

Thanks

QoraKnight

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Quote from: qora on June 11, 2014, 05:24:29 PM

Quote from: QoraKnight on June 11, 2014, 05:16:39 PM

I have one question about the voting system feature.

When you said "1 Qora = 1 Vote," did you mean that if we wants to cast a vote, we need to pay 1 Qora as fee?

Or you meant that the Qora inside our wallet is seen as our votes?

For example, if I have 1 million qora in my wallet, does that mean I have 1 million votes?

How does it work? Could you elaborate?

I haven't really worked out every detail yet but this is my first idea on how to do it.
Basicly there is a poll with certain options.
You create a transaction which allows you to back a certain option with your address.
If the address has 5000 Qora you provide 5000 votes for that option.
If you send 1000 Qora to another address you will provide 4000 votes for that option after the transaction.

Voting will be included in an update at the end of this week with an additional week before you can use it so everyone has the time to update.

Wow, that's so awesome! I really love Qora even more now.

This is great because I was afraid that people might be able to buy votes (pay a fee in order to buy votes), then it will totally defeat the purpose of voting.

Thank you again, qora, for helping us. You have my appreciation, and I promise I will behave and not cause you any headache again.

Best regards Cheesy

peled1986

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Quote from: qora on June 11, 2014, 05:24:29 PM

Voting will be included in an update at the end of this week with an additional week before you can use it so everyone has the time to update.

awesome!
great timing as always!

Quote from: dzarmush on June 11, 2014, 05:26:54 PM

Although I've already bought 8M back coz I prefer to lose less than 5 BTC but not 8M Qora which will cost 25 BTC in no time.

I did the same

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Quote from: peled1986 on June 11, 2014, 05:02:16 PM

Quote from: PilotofBTC on June 11, 2014, 04:43:13 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: TwinWinNerD on June 11, 2014, 04:20:49 PM

But we haven't figured out a way to prove loss of funds.

Yup... no way of knowing if someone sold their QORA in the meantime.

I still propose everyone that has a Qora balance on ShareXCoin make a claim to Busoni. He can open the claim period for 10 days. If after that time the claims are = or < the amount he has frozen, he can disburse the coins. Otherwise, they go to the community fund for bounties/givaways. I can't think of any fairer way to do it.

@PilotofBTC I am sorry for your loss but there is no way that the claims are = or < the amount busoni has frozen.
"only" about 23M frozen.

you claim you lost about 20M.
I know TwinWinNerD lost a lot.
I lost a big amount also.
and I am sure there are a lot more people.

community fund for bounties/giveaways is really the best and only fair solution for the frozen funds.

I know someone who lost 50M. And I lost 8M, so yeah, it won't work.

Although I've already bought 8M back coz I prefer to lose less than 5 BTC but not 8M Qora which will cost 25 BTC in no time.

qora

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Quote from: QoraKnight on June 11, 2014, 05:16:39 PM

I have one question about the voting system feature.

When you said "1 Qora = 1 Vote," did you mean that if we wants to cast a vote, we need to pay 1 Qora as fee?

Or you meant that the Qora inside our wallet is seen as our votes?

For example, if I have 1 million qora in my wallet, does that mean I have 1 million votes?

How does it work? Could you elaborate?

I haven't really worked out every detail yet but this is my first idea on how to do it.
Basicly there is a poll with certain options.
You create a transaction which allows you to back a certain option with your address.
If the address has 5000 Qora you provide 5000 votes for that option.
If you send 1000 Qora to another address you will provide 4000 votes for that option after the transaction.

Voting will be included in an update at the end of this week with an additional week before you can use it so everyone has the time to update.

PondSea

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Quote from: QoraKnight on June 11, 2014, 05:16:39 PM

I have one question about the voting system feature.

When you said "1 Qora = 1 Vote," did you mean that if we wants to cast a vote, we need to pay 1 Qora as fee?

Or you meant that the Qora inside our wallet is seen as our votes?

For example, if I have 1 million qora in my wallet, does that mean I have 1 million votes?

How does it work? Could you elaborate?

Would be the latter....

QoraKnight

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I have one question about the voting system feature.

When you said "1 Qora = 1 Vote," did you mean that if we wants to cast a vote, we need to pay 1 Qora as fee?

Or you meant that the Qora inside our wallet is seen as our votes?

For example, if I have 1 million qora in my wallet, does that mean I have 1 million votes?

How does it work? Could you elaborate?

PondSea

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Quote from: wizzardTim on June 11, 2014, 05:07:20 PM

Quote from: qora on June 11, 2014, 05:05:42 PM

The next thing that will be implemented will be a voting system.
The main purpose of this system will be to decide in which order features will be implemented.
I will provide a list of possible features and the community will decide which one they want first.
The system could also be used by the community to make certain decisions.
1 Qora will equal 1 vote.

In the meantime I have been working on the database.
Once those changes are finished the client will no longer be limited by only showing the last 50 transactions/blocks in your wallet.
Instead you will be able to see everything.

Way to go qora! Thank you again

+ 10 billion.

Any indication of a time frame though?

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