Hahah it's funny how everybody gets triggered when something gets exposed
Whatever arguments you throw at them, they will stay in denial doesnt matter
silly little scam noob community
Topic: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine - page 88. (Read 823858 times)
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we all know switching to pos don't influence the prize becaouse the price it's determinate by market rules.
There is no market value, that is the problem. You have a 'dev team' who are miners and have managed to hype the supposed 'innovative' nature of this coin in order to sell it to a bunch of newbies who think it is a legitimate claim and that the coin has valuable technology which the cryptocurrency industry will want to buy in to and it absolutely does not.
You are being fooled into buying in to a coin where the devs have lied to you about it being innovative and the lie they used wasn't even that credible in the first place because, as I have already pointed out, setting the choice of algo to use in a clonecoin is just another minor option change.
Going back to what I said about it likely being a clone of Blackcoin, due to the dev team's failure to even bother with changing the leading 'B' on the address, I thought I'd actually take a look and it turns out I am right:
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As i said before, if you want people to listen to you, it must be done in a calm and dignified manner, with real evidence, not doctored or massaged truths to suit you agenda.
Which part of the previous posts whereby I have presented objective reasoning and evidence in a calm and dignified manner offends you?
Which part of the real evidence I have presented do you claim to be 'doctored'? Please present evidence of this or withdraw the accusation. You are not helping your argument one bit by repeatedly asserting things which are patently untrue.
Spamming giant red letter words like "Scam" is not calm, nor dignified, giving negative trust to those who oppose your weak claim is not calm, nor dignified, you have a short memory. you present no objective reasoning, all you present is a tirade of false accusations of "scam" without real proof (proof of code, is not proof of scam).
I will not withdraw my accusation as you have pointed out;
..."You are not helping your argument one bit by repeatedly asserting things which are patently untrue."...
Repeating scam every post is exactly that. maybe you should take your own advice, instead of acting like a mindless halfwit. You have lost All your credibility here, so please be so kind as to move on with whats left of your name.
Can I mine this coin with iMac i5 with Nvidia can you tell me is it profitable? Other than mining and exchange other mean of getting this coin maybe? I am new to all this..
anyone here with mining experience need some help.. should I bother is it worht it. Thank you
I am not sure what kind of hashrate you will get with that, it will likely be very low, and with only 2.5 days left to mine you wouldn't get many coins anyway.
At this late stage I would recommend buying some SIGT on Yobit instead, its a good price below 1000 sat at the moment.
I do not understand this accusation that SIGT is a scam. LItecoin and Dogecoin are minor improvements from the code base of Bitcoin and do not posses any major innovation as compared to newer coins such as Ethereum. However, I doubt anybody here would consider Litecoin and Dogecoin as scam coins. Why then single out Signatum?
I am starting to believe CryptoDevil is a bot, as he just regurgitates the same bile over and over and over,
Its boring and holds no truth to say the least, but hey what would i know, just a sock-puppet, shill supporter because i stood up for the community as he and his goons viciously attacked innocent people with a weak and pathetic claim.
Can I mine this coin with iMac i5 with Nvidia can you tell me is it profitable? Other than mining and exchange other mean of getting this coin maybe? I am new to all this..
anyone here with mining experience need some help.. should I bother is it worht it. Thank you
we all know switching to pos don't influence the prize becaouse the price it's determinate by market rules.
There is no market value, that is the problem. You have a 'dev team' who are miners and have managed to hype the supposed 'innovative' nature of this coin in order to sell it to a bunch of newbies who think it is a legitimate claim and that the coin has valuable technology which the cryptocurrency industry will want to buy in to and it absolutely does not.
You are being fooled into buying in to a coin where the devs have lied to you about it being innovative and the lie they used wasn't even that credible in the first place because, as I have already pointed out, setting the choice of algo to use in a clonecoin is just another minor option change.
Going back to what I said about it likely being a clone of Blackcoin, due to the dev team's failure to even bother with changing the leading 'B' on the address, I thought I'd actually take a look and it turns out I am right:
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As i said before, if you want people to listen to you, it must be done in a calm and dignified manner, with real evidence, not doctored or massaged truths to suit you agenda.
Which part of the previous posts whereby I have presented objective reasoning and evidence in a calm and dignified manner offends you?
Which part of the real evidence I have presented do you claim to be 'doctored'? Please present evidence of this or withdraw the accusation. You are not helping your argument one bit by repeatedly asserting things which are patently untrue.
I do not understand this accusation that SIGT is a scam. LItecoin and Dogecoin are minor improvements from the code base of Bitcoin and do not posses any major innovation as compared to newer coins such as Ethereum. However, I doubt anybody here would consider Litecoin and Dogecoin as scam coins. Why then single out Signatum?
No point at all debating like an adult with him, he has made up his mind. He is the biggest fraud on Bitcoin talk, think about how many innocent investors have lost money in the past thanks to this clown.
He throws a dart at every coin on Bitcoin talk, imagine all the coins that started with good intentions, then this ass hat and his clowns went fill tirade on them, eventually leading to Devs abandoning projects because their communities where torn apart and reputation in tatters.
All the scams he calls out, he is the one who creates the scam by tearing apart communities with false accusations, and massaged data, with no real foundation to his claims.
He is the biggest joke on Bitcoin talk, and the only one who can not see it, nobody takes him seriously anymore, and if you do try to debate back with facts, he will just ignore you as your argument carries weight or negative trust abuse as he does not want your argument following down the thread refuting his false claims.
He is just a washed up nobody, who has scammed and created more victims than he thinks he has saved.
He throws a dart at every coin on Bitcoin talk, imagine all the coins that started with good intentions, then this ass hat and his clowns went fill tirade on them, eventually leading to Devs abandoning projects because their communities where torn apart and reputation in tatters.
All the scams he calls out, he is the one who creates the scam by tearing apart communities with false accusations, and massaged data, with no real foundation to his claims.
He is the biggest joke on Bitcoin talk, and the only one who can not see it, nobody takes him seriously anymore, and if you do try to debate back with facts, he will just ignore you as your argument carries weight or negative trust abuse as he does not want your argument following down the thread refuting his false claims.
He is just a washed up nobody, who has scammed and created more victims than he thinks he has saved.
Then why does it have copy-paste code? Why would it have an address format of another coin?
It does not have copy-paste code, this is what you claim. This uses a new algorithm.
Setting a different PoW algorithm in a clonecoin is no different to setting the block-time or money supply or reward, or any of the other variables which define a coin. It is just a section of the coin-code where you set these particular attributes.
It does NOT require ANY innovative or unique coding, that is why there are so many clonecoins with different variables which are all based on the same coin-code. As I said, given that Signatum is a PoW/PoS codebase and has a leading 'B' for its address, I'm going with it being a clone of 'Blackoin'.
Speaking of 'unique tech', I have taken a quick look at the Signatum website where they make this rather bold claim towards their 'technology':
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Except, of course, the marketplace isn't their technology at all. As I said, it is merely a copy-paste of a basic UI you can download and skin yourself:
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Stick your logo in the section marked and off you go.
As I said, the 'dev team' isn't developing anything, they are just fobbing you off on cheap copy-pasta wallets and web 'services'.
Well I'm not experienced in crypto, but creating web applications, so I will not defend Signatum or offend you. But saying that they invented nothing new by showing Bootstrap has been used, that's really bad argument. Sorry, i'm using it in almost all my projects and they are all unique, so I can't say I'm just copy-pasting.
I think bootstrapitself is not the case here.
I made lots of java web apps, and bootstrap is in daily use there.
But devs saying 'we are working hard to make web wallet etc.' and then just copypasting 'put your logo and you are ready-to-go' sources is reason to not take it seriously...
What is inside, how it works, it is what is the most important for me. You could buy or download dozens of templates, where you just replace the logo. And it's not copy-pasting. They can work hard on the business layer, but that's what i can't say if it's true or not.
There's also all the supporting infrastructure that needs to be setup. It's a lot more involved & complex than a non-programmer realizes.
Then why does it have copy-paste code? Why would it have an address format of another coin?
It does not have copy-paste code, this is what you claim. This uses a new algorithm.
Setting a different PoW algorithm in a clonecoin is no different to setting the block-time or money supply or reward, or any of the other variables which define a coin. It is just a section of the coin-code where you set these particular attributes.
It does NOT require ANY innovative or unique coding, that is why there are so many clonecoins with different variables which are all based on the same coin-code. As I said, given that Signatum is a PoW/PoS codebase and has a leading 'B' for its address, I'm going with it being a clone of 'Blackoin'.
Speaking of 'unique tech', I have taken a quick look at the Signatum website where they make this rather bold claim towards their 'technology':
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Except, of course, the marketplace isn't their technology at all. As I said, it is merely a copy-paste of a basic UI you can download and skin yourself:
Quote
Stick your logo in the section marked and off you go.
As I said, the 'dev team' isn't developing anything, they are just fobbing you off on cheap copy-pasta wallets and web 'services'.
Well I'm not experienced in crypto, but creating web applications, so I will not defend Signatum or offend you. But saying that they invented nothing new by showing Bootstrap has been used, that's really bad argument. Sorry, i'm using it in almost all my projects and they are all unique, so I can't say I'm just copy-pasting.
I think bootstrapitself is not the case here.
I made lots of java web apps, and bootstrap is in daily use there.
But devs saying 'we are working hard to make web wallet etc.' and then just copypasting 'put your logo and you are ready-to-go' sources is reason to not take it seriously...
What is inside, how it works, it is what is the most important for me. You could buy or download dozens of templates, where you just replace the logo. And it's not copy-pasting. They can work hard on the business layer, but that's what i can't say if it's true or not.
So where are the Devs lying ? can you provide quotes / source.
Pretty much every time they say this:
What we can do however is to make sure the roadmap is achieved and Signatum gets real life usage. We will continue and try to innovate and update.
There is no innovation in this coin whatsoever. It is a clonecoin, pure and simple.
That is, and has been, the lie from the very beginning. Fuelled by a plethora of sock-puppet forum accounts frequently posting fanbois cheerleading or false news of 'inside info' that big players in the cryptocurrency industry are interested in this coin, when there is absolutely nothing for them to be interested in at all.
They haven't taken the Blackcoin code and improved on it, they've taken the Blackcoin code and simply chosen a few different attributes regarding which PoW algo to use and things like the coin supply, blocktime, reward etc and then renamed it 'Signatum'. The exact same routine all the clonecoins are created by.
Forgetting to change the leading 'B' in the address format, though, that was truly sloppy.
EVERY coin after BTC is a "clone coin" or a "clone coin" of a "clone coin" ad infinitum. I haven't looked, but I'd bet every single coin around shares 90-95% of BTC's original code. That doesn't make them a scam. Seriously, enough already. Almost everybody that's ever likely to read this forum has already seen your very subjective, and at times naive, analysis many times over. Why do you insist on trying to cram your opinion down everyone's throats by spamming it over and over again?
very weak throw-in, cryptodevil, try better
So where are the Devs lying ? can you provide quotes / source.
Pretty much every time they say this:
What we can do however is to make sure the roadmap is achieved and Signatum gets real life usage. We will continue and try to innovate and update.
There is no innovation in this coin whatsoever. It is a clonecoin, pure and simple.
That is, and has been, the lie from the very beginning. Fuelled by a plethora of sock-puppet forum accounts frequently posting fanbois cheerleading or false news of 'inside info' that big players in the cryptocurrency industry are interested in this coin, when there is absolutely nothing for them to be interested in at all.
They haven't taken the Blackcoin code and improved on it, they've taken the Blackcoin code and simply chosen a few different attributes regarding which PoW algo to use and things like the coin supply, blocktime, reward etc and then renamed it 'Signatum'. The exact same routine all the clonecoins are created by.
Forgetting to change the leading 'B' in the address format, though, that was truly sloppy.
'we are working hard to make web wallet etc.'
web wallet with PoS, i like that, you Marcus?
web wallet with PoS, i like that, you Marcus?
Then why does it have copy-paste code? Why would it have an address format of another coin?
It does not have copy-paste code, this is what you claim. This uses a new algorithm.
Setting a different PoW algorithm in a clonecoin is no different to setting the block-time or money supply or reward, or any of the other variables which define a coin. It is just a section of the coin-code where you set these particular attributes.
It does NOT require ANY innovative or unique coding, that is why there are so many clonecoins with different variables which are all based on the same coin-code. As I said, given that Signatum is a PoW/PoS codebase and has a leading 'B' for its address, I'm going with it being a clone of 'Blackoin'.
Speaking of 'unique tech', I have taken a quick look at the Signatum website where they make this rather bold claim towards their 'technology':
Quote
Except, of course, the marketplace isn't their technology at all. As I said, it is merely a copy-paste of a basic UI you can download and skin yourself:
Quote
Stick your logo in the section marked and off you go.
As I said, the 'dev team' isn't developing anything, they are just fobbing you off on cheap copy-pasta wallets and web 'services'.
Well I'm not experienced in crypto, but creating web applications, so I will not defend Signatum or offend you. But saying that they invented nothing new by showing Bootstrap has been used, that's really bad argument. Sorry, i'm using it in almost all my projects and they are all unique, so I can't say I'm just copy-pasting.
I think bootstrapitself is not the case here.
I made lots of java web apps, and bootstrap is in daily use there.
But devs saying 'we are working hard to make web wallet etc.' and then just copypasting 'put your logo and you are ready-to-go' sources is reason to not take it seriously...
This is the code for the marketplace, not the web wallet, carefully check the facts presented, before you preach.
Then why does it have copy-paste code? Why would it have an address format of another coin?
It does not have copy-paste code, this is what you claim. This uses a new algorithm.
Setting a different PoW algorithm in a clonecoin is no different to setting the block-time or money supply or reward, or any of the other variables which define a coin. It is just a section of the coin-code where you set these particular attributes.
It does NOT require ANY innovative or unique coding, that is why there are so many clonecoins with different variables which are all based on the same coin-code. As I said, given that Signatum is a PoW/PoS codebase and has a leading 'B' for its address, I'm going with it being a clone of 'Blackoin'.
Speaking of 'unique tech', I have taken a quick look at the Signatum website where they make this rather bold claim towards their 'technology':
Quote
Except, of course, the marketplace isn't their technology at all. As I said, it is merely a copy-paste of a basic UI you can download and skin yourself:
Quote
Stick your logo in the section marked and off you go.
As I said, the 'dev team' isn't developing anything, they are just fobbing you off on cheap copy-pasta wallets and web 'services'.
Well I'm not experienced in crypto, but creating web applications, so I will not defend Signatum or offend you. But saying that they invented nothing new by showing Bootstrap has been used, that's really bad argument. Sorry, i'm using it in almost all my projects and they are all unique, so I can't say I'm just copy-pasting.
I think bootstrapitself is not the case here.
I made lots of java web apps, and bootstrap is in daily use there.
But devs saying 'we are working hard to make web wallet etc.' and then just copypasting 'put your logo and you are ready-to-go' sources is reason to not take it seriously...
Then why does it have copy-paste code? Why would it have an address format of another coin?
It does not have copy-paste code, this is what you claim. This uses a new algorithm.
Setting a different PoW algorithm in a clonecoin is no different to setting the block-time or money supply or reward, or any of the other variables which define a coin. It is just a section of the coin-code where you set these particular attributes.
It does NOT require ANY innovative or unique coding, that is why there are so many clonecoins with different variables which are all based on the same coin-code. As I said, given that Signatum is a PoW/PoS codebase and has a leading 'B' for its address, I'm going with it being a clone of 'Blackoin'.
Speaking of 'unique tech', I have taken a quick look at the Signatum website where they make this rather bold claim towards their 'technology':
Quote
Except, of course, the marketplace isn't their technology at all. As I said, it is merely a copy-paste of a basic UI you can download and skin yourself:
Quote
Stick your logo in the section marked and off you go.
As I said, the 'dev team' isn't developing anything, they are just fobbing you off on cheap copy-pasta wallets and web 'services'.
Well I'm not experienced in crypto, but creating web applications, so I will not defend Signatum or offend you. But saying that they invented nothing new by showing Bootstrap has been used, that's really bad argument. Sorry, i'm using it in almost all my projects and they are all unique, so I can't say I'm just copy-pasting.
He's not a programmer. If he was he'd realize how absurd his "innovation" claims are.
Then why does it have copy-paste code? Why would it have an address format of another coin?
It does not have copy-paste code, this is what you claim. This uses a new algorithm.
Setting a different PoW algorithm in a clonecoin is no different to setting the block-time or money supply or reward, or any of the other variables which define a coin. It is just a section of the coin-code where you set these particular attributes.
It does NOT require ANY innovative or unique coding, that is why there are so many clonecoins with different variables which are all based on the same coin-code. As I said, given that Signatum is a PoW/PoS codebase and has a leading 'B' for its address, I'm going with it being a clone of 'Blackoin'.
Speaking of 'unique tech', I have taken a quick look at the Signatum website where they make this rather bold claim towards their 'technology':
Quote
Except, of course, the marketplace isn't their technology at all. As I said, it is merely a copy-paste of a basic UI you can download and skin yourself:
Quote
Stick your logo in the section marked and off you go.
As I said, the 'dev team' isn't developing anything, they are just fobbing you off on cheap copy-pasta wallets and web 'services'.
Well I'm not experienced in crypto, but creating web applications, so I will not defend Signatum or offend you. But saying that they invented nothing new by showing Bootstrap has been used, that's really bad argument. Sorry, i'm using it in almost all my projects and they are all unique, so I can't say I'm just copy-pasting.
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