Topic: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For Highly-Confidential Transactions 🔏 - page 74. (Read 202439 times)

OK... no demonstration, a simple peremptory sentence. Welcome to the Internet 2.0, where Sophists can establish their kingdom of truth.

Rule #1 in life: everything is possible, nothing is written beforehand
Rule #2: ethics of discussion: everyone is entitled to have an opinion, as long as the exchange is made in due respect, with valid arguments.

Now I'm done with you, LilBit, ignore button has been hit.

Funny how people get afraid if a very small and young coin. Do your best guys... keep the hate flowing   Sumo must be on the right track...

Talking about a 10% premine in times of big ICO's just is just ridiculous... I'll wait until one of you gives me a real argument against Sumo. If you got a good one, I will reward you.

PS: if you would at least have the balls to use your legit account instead a fake one (since you always talk about how important transparency is ... lol)

Today's decline so large, is the normal callback or what bad news?

The funny thing is, these guys actually think that SUMO is better than Monero HAHAHA! SCAMkoin

I totally agree. They are not valid opponents, they act like brainless parrots or tape recorder on the loop - just keep repeating same words all over again without any sign of argument. But as I see most of the people here ignore them. I too hit ignore button several days ago and now enjoy the absence of their trash.


BTW: Bitcoin has a huge premine and anonymous creators. BITCOIN IS A SCAM!!1111 lol

Concerning the premine, here's a quick calc:

- July 2018: expected supply: roughly 20.000.000 coins, share of premine = 600.000 / 20.000.000 : around 3% (!!!)
- July 2020: expected supply: roughly 38.000.000 coins, share of premine = 7.200.000 / 38.000.000 : around 18.5%

If you consider that some coins are financing themselsves on a regular basis, devs share could be as high for some specific coins. Ether had a 17% premine back in 2015, still it is a successful coin, with a high market cap, and devs (which is not limited to Vitalik) could build a real trust around their project. At that time, there were also fudders, stating miners/buyers would be scam victims. Where's ETH now?

As I can understand fears - especially when it comes to "modern core values" of monetization -, I think overstretching potential issues isn't the way to go. You don't trust? Fair enough. Just buy 10 SUM and leave them in a wallet for 2-3 years and see by yourself. It falls? You'll have lost 50 bucks at most. It succeeds? You'll have more money. On my side of things, I could repay my mining equipment, so now, it's only "bonus" time, and I trust this project enough to have a reasonable quantity of  SUMOs in stock.

Of course. You can restore the same wallet twice and use it both from your desktop wallet and your android device

I think I may have have the concept wrong...

The goal is to check my balance (which I usually check via the desktop wallet) using the android wallet app while I'm traveling.

Can you use the same public address for desktop wallet and the android wallet?

Of course not, you have a misplaced space or a misplaced character in the address you are trying to paste. Please recheck.

Quick question about the android wallet, for the public address (that I've already have) am I suppose to delete the Sumo from SumoXXXXXX...?  My public address is 99 char, while the wallet only allows 95 char.

It all started when we presented the charts proving that Sumokoin is beter than Monero to the public containing real, solid facts.
The same guys, obviously paid lackeys, started posting about the premine and other inconherent jibberish without disproving any of these facts although we ve asked them to several times.

They worsened their game when the coin picked up in value, after devs released the gui wallet icluding ghost addresses which is better than Monero's, anyone can download both and compare. FUD and jibberish and "so called" inside information and cosntant reminders about the premine but still no facts for disproving the fact that the desktop GUI wallet is better than Monero's

The went full mode yesterday when we released the android wallet connecting in ssl nodes a feature that Monero doesnt have. New accounts, the same guy talking jibberish and reminding everyone of the premine, so called inside info that the coin is a scam, so called info that devs are not 4 but one (when actually 2 of them use their real names).

Monero's dev team comprised by cereal - food ex businessman and developers of uncertain skills and ethos as well its community proved to be toxic and unworthy of crypto ideals but it would have never crossed my mind that they should actually be paying lackeys to fud a coin that they know its better than theirs in order not to lose their fucking money that the cereal salesmean and his team has gathered and are spending on vacations, public appearances and in a lavish lifestyle in general (you just have to follow them on twitter to verify).

I know they will return talking about cheerleaders, zealots, the premine again, incoherent sentences with no facts (they do so at a specific time each day which strengthens my belief that this is a paid job for them) but I really thank them for revealing the extent that their bosses are willing  to go in order for their coins not to lose value by any competitor.

Keep it up! this coin is going to succeed whether you like it or not

EDIT: I cannot even start to imagine how much they'll stretch their fudding campaign when the new roadmap and the new upcoming features will be announced the following weeks (old map is almost obsolete now almost half the features expected in 2018 are fullfiled and Sumokoin's devs proved beyond any doubt that when they announce a feature they also announce the exact time of its release and they either deliver upon that time or much earlier). They will go nuts

I'm really glad people are making new accounts just to spread FUD about SUMO. It mean that coin is good.

Just 60 BTC to 0.001 on crazytopia.. Keep FUDding plz.

I am just glad i sold my 1500 coins at the peak. My intention was always to buy back in but I am not so sure now.

The buy orders is looking so thin.  

On the other hand, Zoin is looking like a promising privacy coin with no premine.  

Turns out the ignore button works real well. I got a feeling those 3 accounts are all one in the same if you ask me.  But to respond i wanted basic statistics percentages of coins with similar variables and issues that how they went. You could even give a example but no this is just the first coin to be like this  and the first one with anon devs(because satoshi nakamoto was a real name apparently), But you know whats really funny? You obviously must not know what your talking about because you speak with a connotation that dictates you know everything and that your guesses must be correct. Either that or you sorely lack communication skills. I love the you are but what am i argument as well. Reminiscent of grade school really. Id love to see a actual researcher or statistician  that hides there knowledge from a open forum of people eagerly listening. I could spend all day telling you why your wrong in so many aspects, but we both know that you know that already. Keep attacking character because we both know you have no chance in civil debate.

I didn't ask for the meaning of empirical. Online dictionaries are a dime a dozen and very easy to copy and paste when you're in a bind like what you just did. I was asking what specifically the kind/type of empirical chit you're looking for. So which one is it? Please elaborate and state criteria, parameters, variables, etc. Not that I'm willing to give it to you if I do have it, especially if I worked hard and invested a lot of my own time to prepare it. I'm just really curious if you indeed know what specifically you were talking about. Again, what kind/type of empirical data are you referring to?

It seems you're really into statistics. Maybe what you're looking for doesn't exist yet. If you're such a hot statistician, then perhaps you should do this as your project. Perhaps you'll be the first one to come up with it, whatever it is. You can call it "Empirical Data Of Whales In The Wild". But then again, perhaps you just bandied around "empirical" in your post to make it sound sophisticated/intelligent without considering that someone will call you out on it eventually.

Edit: ...and I couldn't care less if you listen to me or not.

"em·pir·i·cal
adjective
based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic.

For someone who uses non sequitur im shocked you dont understand the word empirical. I labelled my points by number so im sorry if you have issue understanding basic statements. Im not specifically targeting you but rather the nonsensical things you have to say. If you had a genuine argument id be happy to listen but apparently that isnt the case.

I'm assuming you're referring to my OP. Perhaps you just don't know how to quote properly in this forum. But whatever, I'll take a stab at it.

What empirical data? That whales do or do not exist and do or do not manipulate markets or is it how many whales are there? It seems you are already sure of yourself so why do you need whatever empirical chit you're asking for from others. Gamble away then. It's your money. I'm not gonna do your homework for you. Do your own research for the empirical chit that you're looking for. Nobody is trying to convince you of anything that you are already sure of. This is the only sort of coherent point (barely at that) that I could sorta make out in your single-paragraph post though it still doesn't make any sense. Otherwise, your thoughts are all over the place, jumbled up and disorganized that it's really difficult to figure what you are trying to say.

I actually agree that for a coin to succeed, there cannot be blind faces.  Creating a product that people buy (and actually bought), is a social responsibility.

Hate to say this, but sumokoin devs could learn a thing or two from ETN.

Regardless of its tech or roadmaps, no financial backings from entities with fiat and forced pressure to outgrow competitors, there are little chances for this coin to blossom into main stream.

A support community can only go so far.

They need to get in contact with Japanese financial sector, ASAP.

Ill take what your saying at face value and address it as best as i can.
1. I personally dont mind anon devs imo, but i understand the concern

2. Thats what half of the coins in the market do, except they dont actually add useful features they just add gimmick things to attract people(Subaddresses are actually useful.) and most of the time they dont deliver on time like the devs do here.

3. As i stated earlier what would you call the people who throw 23mh on a private pool in sumokoin like whats been going on for the last week? Thats a much bigger whale and whales can occur with or without a premine. Sure they could dump 10% in july but what exactly would they get them a small portion of money vs the value of the coin in the future. Even if it was for that intended purpose only a idiot would do it so blantantly and drop the value entirely. It would be in neither the buyers or the devs interest in that scenario.

4. What do you define as a scam coin? Because id love to hear your opinions on the best coins. Because from what your saying everything in crytonight other then monero is a scamcoin.

No fud!

-Devs are anonymous (how do you even know that those 4 devs exist, mby there is just one dev)
-All they do is add some shitty code to tech what already exists. Better designs or little bit extra shitty code doesn't make a coin better (no long-term value)
-Premined coins, very easy manipulation
-overall just a scamcoin

Too many red flags, I just want to warn people!