Topic: [ANN] Symmetry - The Safer Cryptocurrency Fund with a Monthly Dividend. - page 2. (Read 20518 times)
February 08, 2018, 09:49:04 AM
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February 07, 2018, 02:55:42 PM
Well, I would just like to thank those who exposed the scam.
I must admit they had me going, I was ready to invest, after some talks on telegram.
So really grateful that others did more thorough investigation than I did.
And sorry for those who had already fallen for them.
I must admit they had me going, I was ready to invest, after some talks on telegram.
So really grateful that others did more thorough investigation than I did.
And sorry for those who had already fallen for them.
February 06, 2018, 04:41:19 AM
Next time, before calling them, do read the posts... As I wrote in my initial post ( https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28957307 ):
I do like the idea of finding these scammers, but they covered their asses pretty well. I got the suggestion that maybe Europol might be a good entry point, but they point you back to your national police ( https://www.europol.europa.eu/report-a-crime/report-cybercrime-online ).
- I emailed Polaris Investors AG, the company of the advisor "Mike Henkel". Their quick reply was "We were not aware of the fact that apparently people are using our name on Linkedin. This guy seems to be a fake and does not work with us. Honestly, I would not touch an ICO where a guy claims to be an advisor if he uses firm names randomly". And I got a kind remark that they would short SYMM
. - I can add to that: Tom Capital also mailed back to me that they don't know any Oliver Purr, so please don't call them
. - Directly after I made my post I reached out to all the ICO review sites that had them on their site and luckily some of those sites responded quickly by at least adding a remark with their article.
- In LinkedIn, I marked all team & advisor profiles as fake. Please do so too.
- I sent a note to the moderator of this thread to change the title to "SCAM...", but unfortunately that's not allowed by the forum rules:
From https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657:Q: Why haven't you bannedwho is an obvious scammer?
A: Possible (or real, not for me to decide) scams are not moderated to prevent moderator abuse. If we start picking out which ones we call "scammers" and ban, we would make a lot of decisions based on biased opinions.
I do like the idea of finding these scammers, but they covered their asses pretty well. I got the suggestion that maybe Europol might be a good entry point, but they point you back to your national police ( https://www.europol.europa.eu/report-a-crime/report-cybercrime-online ).
This is so sad... Feeling sorry for you guys and all the lost coins.
Always check Team, check website registration, check enterprise behind it, check the concept, talk to other people, read about it on forums, google for it together with the word scam.
February 02, 2018, 12:08:15 PM
strange, the numbers on the site are growing, advertising on the coinmarket turns, and then they say that the scam, if it's intended, by the team itself, so as not to pay hunters, it's generally shameful.
It is not strange. They paid for advertising in external services in advance, before shit hit the fan. At this point, we can certainly say that the project has been abandoned and everything was fake just to scam investors. I assure you that from the beginning they didn't even think about paying anything bounty hunters at all.
February 02, 2018, 06:12:20 AM
strange, the numbers on the site are growing, advertising on the coinmarket turns, and then they say that the scam, if it's intended, by the team itself, so as not to pay hunters, it's generally shameful.
It is not strange. They paid for advertising in external services in advance, before shit hit the fan. At this point, we can certainly say that the project has been abandoned and everything was fake just to scam investors. I assure you that from the beginning they didn't even think about paying anything bounty hunters at all.
February 01, 2018, 07:11:52 PM
I got the suggestion that maybe Europol might be a good entry point, but they point you back to your national police
Done.
February 01, 2018, 03:20:15 PM
strange, the numbers on the site are growing, advertising on the coinmarket turns, and then they say that the scam, if it's intended, by the team itself, so as not to pay hunters, it's generally shameful.
February 01, 2018, 02:05:08 PM
In Etherscan i still find a lot of advertisements from symmetry fund. Sponsored Link is standing randomly with other crypto advertisements on transaction hash pages : Symmetry Fund - 10 Last Days. Only 7.5% Commission. Dividends Paid In ETH Each Month. Join Today!
They even can still advertise in google because the page is still showing me the google ad banners on : https://www.investing.com/studios/article-77
They even can still advertise in google because the page is still showing me the google ad banners on : https://www.investing.com/studios/article-77
January 31, 2018, 09:00:07 AM
Next time, before calling them, do read the posts... As I wrote in my initial post ( https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28957307 ):
I do like the idea of finding these scammers, but they covered their asses pretty well. I got the suggestion that maybe Europol might be a good entry point, but they point you back to your national police ( https://www.europol.europa.eu/report-a-crime/report-cybercrime-online ).
I believe - but not 100% sure - that if a Telegram channel is deleted by its owners, then anyone else is free to register a channel with the same name. Read up a few pages, I raised this point and somebody here said that they created the channel to prevent further people falling victim.
Well that make sense. I also called Polaris Investment Advisory AG in Zurich and they confirmed that Mike Henkel is neither a partner in the firm or a known member in the Swiss financial advisory board. They also confirmed that they have denounced him to the appropriate jurisdiction.
So why don't we organize ourselves, try to find these bastards and make them pay?
- I emailed Polaris Investors AG, the company of the advisor "Mike Henkel". Their quick reply was "We were not aware of the fact that apparently people are using our name on Linkedin. This guy seems to be a fake and does not work with us. Honestly, I would not touch an ICO where a guy claims to be an advisor if he uses firm names randomly". And I got a kind remark that they would short SYMM .
- I can add to that: Tom Capital also mailed back to me that they don't know any Oliver Purr, so please don't call them .
- Directly after I made my post I reached out to all the ICO review sites that had them on their site and luckily some of those sites responded quickly by at least adding a remark with their article.
- In LinkedIn, I marked all team & advisor profiles as fake. Please do so too.
- I sent a note to the moderator of this thread to change the title to "SCAM...", but unfortunately that's not allowed by the forum rules:
From https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657:Q: Why haven't you bannedwho is an obvious scammer?
A: Possible (or real, not for me to decide) scams are not moderated to prevent moderator abuse. If we start picking out which ones we call "scammers" and ban, we would make a lot of decisions based on biased opinions.
I do like the idea of finding these scammers, but they covered their asses pretty well. I got the suggestion that maybe Europol might be a good entry point, but they point you back to your national police ( https://www.europol.europa.eu/report-a-crime/report-cybercrime-online ).
Guys! trying to get to the bottom of this story... and few thing doesn't match up....
How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?
Also If I recall well, there was over 700 members in the original Telegram channel... not 19 as of now...
The current channel was created on Monday January 29 (few days only) and been viewed by 127 persons only...
Can anyone shed some light?
How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?
Also If I recall well, there was over 700 members in the original Telegram channel... not 19 as of now...
The current channel was created on Monday January 29 (few days only) and been viewed by 127 persons only...
Can anyone shed some light?
I believe - but not 100% sure - that if a Telegram channel is deleted by its owners, then anyone else is free to register a channel with the same name. Read up a few pages, I raised this point and somebody here said that they created the channel to prevent further people falling victim.
Well that make sense. I also called Polaris Investment Advisory AG in Zurich and they confirmed that Mike Henkel is neither a partner in the firm or a known member in the Swiss financial advisory board. They also confirmed that they have denounced him to the appropriate jurisdiction.
So why don't we organize ourselves, try to find these bastards and make them pay?
January 31, 2018, 06:29:47 AM
Guys! trying to get to the bottom of this story... and few thing doesn't match up....
How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?
Also If I recall well, there was over 700 members in the original Telegram channel... not 19 as of now...
The current channel was created on Monday January 29 (few days only) and been viewed by 127 persons only...
Can anyone shed some light?
How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?
Also If I recall well, there was over 700 members in the original Telegram channel... not 19 as of now...
The current channel was created on Monday January 29 (few days only) and been viewed by 127 persons only...
Can anyone shed some light?
I believe - but not 100% sure - that if a Telegram channel is deleted by its owners, then anyone else is free to register a channel with the same name. Read up a few pages, I raised this point and somebody here said that they created the channel to prevent further people falling victim.
Well that make sense. I also called Polaris Investment Advisory AG in Zurich and they confirmed that Mike Henkel is neither a partner in the firm or a known member in the Swiss financial advisory board. They also confirmed that they have denounced him to the appropriate jurisdiction.
So why don't we organize ourselves, try to find these bastards and make them pay?
January 31, 2018, 01:31:45 AM
Guys! trying to get to the bottom of this story... and few thing doesn't match up....
How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?
Also If I recall well, there was over 700 members in the original Telegram channel... not 19 as of now...
The current channel was created on Monday January 29 (few days only) and been viewed by 127 persons only...
Can anyone shed some light?
How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?
Also If I recall well, there was over 700 members in the original Telegram channel... not 19 as of now...
The current channel was created on Monday January 29 (few days only) and been viewed by 127 persons only...
Can anyone shed some light?
I believe - but not 100% sure - that if a Telegram channel is deleted by its owners, then anyone else is free to register a channel with the same name. Read up a few pages, I raised this point and somebody here said that they created the channel to prevent further people falling victim.
January 31, 2018, 01:15:39 AM
Guys! trying to get to the bottom of this story... and few thing doesn't match up....
How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?
Also If I recall well, there was over 700 members in the original Telegram channel... not 19 as of now...
The current channel was created on Monday January 29 (few days only) and been viewed by 127 persons only...
Can anyone shed some light?
How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?
Also If I recall well, there was over 700 members in the original Telegram channel... not 19 as of now...
The current channel was created on Monday January 29 (few days only) and been viewed by 127 persons only...
Can anyone shed some light?
January 31, 2018, 01:06:39 AM
Also, beware all the people making comments like this:
I just checked three at random and noticed some peculiarities: identical merit, identical activity. Almost identical number of posts. Accounts all created within hours of each other. If you look at their recent posts you will see they are all commenting virtually the same thing on the same ICO threads, minutes apart:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/anayajurus-1384493
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ttexav-1383858
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/grinin-1384310
I suspect that these accounts (and probably others) are associated with the scammers involved with Symmetry Fund... and any other ICO's that they mention in their post list I would be very wary of (Mobilink, Pecunio, GRON, Saifu, OKO, Setcoin, Lucyd, Freelancer, Styras, Chatello, Dogezer, AMP, HeavenCoin, and more... several posts are in russian so i can't read them all.
Cheers
This a long-term and promising project which is handled by professional team. Do you accept BTC?
I just checked three at random and noticed some peculiarities: identical merit, identical activity. Almost identical number of posts. Accounts all created within hours of each other. If you look at their recent posts you will see they are all commenting virtually the same thing on the same ICO threads, minutes apart:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/anayajurus-1384493
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ttexav-1383858
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/grinin-1384310
I suspect that these accounts (and probably others) are associated with the scammers involved with Symmetry Fund... and any other ICO's that they mention in their post list I would be very wary of (Mobilink, Pecunio, GRON, Saifu, OKO, Setcoin, Lucyd, Freelancer, Styras, Chatello, Dogezer, AMP, HeavenCoin, and more... several posts are in russian so i can't read them all.
Cheers
Nice find, but it proves nothing. It is just an easy trick to get posts behind your name and get some status on bitcointalk. Just post in every ico thread some basic meaningless questions.
January 31, 2018, 01:00:03 AM
Guys! trying to get to the bottom of this story... and one thing doesn't match up....
How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?
How is it that the official telegram channel of symmetry has been taken over, muted and promote this thread? Unless it has been hacked, why on earth the owner(s) of Symmetry would redirect everyone's attention to a post indicating that they run a scam?
January 30, 2018, 03:42:16 PM
What about SEC ang legal for you project? where i can read about it?
This is a scam ICO. go back to page 11 of this thread, and read from there until the end. The money is already gone, don't invest. January 30, 2018, 03:36:58 PM
What about SEC ang legal for you project? where i can read about it?
January 30, 2018, 03:30:59 PM
But they have been updating their twitter account.
https://twitter.com/symmetryfund/status/958419721027645440
This is a recent tweet.
Good news, I've managed to have SYMM delisted from several ICO report pages. I'm currently working on having the main website taken down.
January 30, 2018, 02:47:45 PM
For those who had private chats with Andrew... just take a look in your telegram "Last seen within a week".... the dude is gone
But they have been updating their twitter account.https://twitter.com/symmetryfund/status/958419721027645440
This is a recent tweet.
January 30, 2018, 11:26:50 AM
I'm confused 
Is the project fake or not ?
Is the project fake or not ?
Yes, it is.
January 30, 2018, 06:43:54 AM
3rd smoking gun - this ICO is either part of a coordinated group of scams run by a single group, or has engaged the services of social media manipulators to artificially promote and lend legitimacy to their ICO.
And or trying to hire legit people and services to increase trust in their legitimacy.
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