Topic: [ANN] Symmetry - The Safer Cryptocurrency Fund with a Monthly Dividend. - page 3. (Read 20495 times)

For those who had private chats with Andrew... just take a look in your telegram "Last seen  within a week".... the dude is gone

https://s14.postimg.org/mdm5mpp6p/grab01089.jpg

Actually I did further digging, and from just TWO pages of this ANN thread I found 19 users ALL commenting the same things, on the same 15 ICO's. By extrapolation, there could be HUNDREDS of fake accounts exploiting bitcointalk.org! This is huge. I've messaged the admin and I'm waiting for a response. The usernames in question are: Captain_Jack_Sparrow, recnapon, Mutanca, FranzyFox, macolde, Chermander, Captain_Killer, gastlator,  Varsity_Blues, Beahelm, Moto_angel, Anayajurus, Grinin, Ttexav, Glen Thompson, BearuBear, Tator, Monkey_Thinker... I encourage you to check their post histories yourselves if you don't believe me.

Also, a further update and another smoking gun! I was approached via Telegram by someone who wishes to remain anonymous. I will post sections of the transcript here:


TL;DR: There is no code to check which round of the ICO tokens were purchased in - dividend calculation is based purely on amount of tokens held.

I have some programming experience, and to me it looks like the dividends_before_commision and dividends_after_commision (besides being spelled incorrectly) are not being initialised properly - they are initialised in the 'if' part of an if/else statement (type declared as uint256) but not initialised in the 'else' block (only an assignation). Definitely agree that it looks like this code has not been tested at all and is probably just there for show.

Back to the topic of the fake/scam accounts for now, our anonymous friend also had this to say:
Makes me think of all the reports of russian manipulation of the US election - we know it happens, is this just another example? I think that is likely.

So, to recap:

• 1st smoking gun - funds being transferred from ICO wallet to scammer wallet
• 2nd smoking gun - code containing basic errors, and not being able to calculate the dividend payout correctly as per symmetry fund's website
• 3rd smoking gun - this ICO is either part of a coordinated group of scams run by a single group, or has engaged the services of social media manipulators to artificially promote and lend legitimacy to their ICO.
  

On https://www.chipin.com/symmetry-fund-ceo-andrew-lewin-interview/ and https://www.chipin.com/symmetry-fund-ico-cryptocurrency-investment-one-place/ are removed

On https://www.investitin.com/symmetry-fund/  there is a scam warning now

and the link to https://cryptocentral.io/index.php/market-live/87-breaking-news/1034-aims-to-bring-convenience-and-stability-for-new-cryptocurrency-investors also not working anymore

these links came from the symmetry website

Nice find, but it proves nothing. It is just an easy trick to get posts behind your name and get some status on bitcointalk. Just post in every ico thread some basic meaningless questions.

Damn, I'm so bummed out, I had hoped this would be a sureshot. unfortunately it's not. I even put in 5.6 ethereum... ah well.

AWESOME FIND!

There is your list for people that want somethignt to stay away from.

How the dividends will be paid, everything will depend on the profit of the project for the month. In what proportion will payments in relation to the number of tokens that will be on my wallet? Anyone else who owns the token will receive it? Or just shareholders or those who bought tokens at ICO?

Also, beware all the people making comments like this:

I just checked three at random and noticed some peculiarities: identical merit, identical activity. Almost identical number of posts. Accounts all created within hours of each other. If you look at their recent posts you will see they are all commenting virtually the same thing on the same ICO threads, minutes apart:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/anayajurus-1384493
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ttexav-1383858
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/grinin-1384310

I suspect that these accounts (and probably others) are associated with the scammers involved with Symmetry Fund... and any other ICO's that they mention in their post list I would be very wary of (Mobilink, Pecunio, GRON, Saifu, OKO, Setcoin, Lucyd, Freelancer, Styras, Chatello, Dogezer, AMP, HeavenCoin, and more... several posts are in russian so i can't read them all.

Cheers

Hi all, just another quick update, I received a reply from the other conference organiser that I emailed, Blockchain West:

I'm confused 

 Is the project fake or not ? Do I have to leave the signature?

The very fact that they are guaranteeing a positive ROI from trading should throw up many red flags. This is a scam and clearly will result in loss to anyone who buys into it.


From the website homepage:

"Unrivaled Returns

The SYMM fund uses proprietary analysis methods to provide returns to shareholders that are incomparable to investments with traditional funds."

If you enjoy giving up your ETH, go for it. You are better off gambling in "next generation blockchain ICOs" than trading funds.  Just by participating in the ICOs you are already doing what they claim they will do.

Blind fool, you don't see here everyone saying it's scam and you still think this is a solid project? Looool this happens when you don't read.

Could not agree more. Followed the chat for a few weeks, did not digged deeper because I had some time left and expected eth to drop more. Was about to invest large in it.

Also no answers back from Andrew or Vlad

if only the telegram channel was hacked. Why not respond in any other ways to communicate, like twitter, medium channel, their own website, here. After the fud broke out, they did not try to counter the arguments against, they deleted the chat and stopped responding to other channels..... this is no hack

Luckily I only added their signature for 3 weeks and not invest any money in this scam. Sorry for all who did, but I also thought it is a real project. I was too lazy too dig deeper when checking the project. But I have to admit, the scam was really done professionally.

Is there any possibility that they just got hacked? All of this looks really bad

I just reported the first post to the moderator to take a close look and consider this a scam. I suggest we all do. There is more evidence against it than clear answers proving it legitim, have not seen one of those

Andrew Lewin does not answer my messages or emails either, before the rumors on Friday he did.

I think Symmetry is a scam.

I have invested 2 ETH  in 20 SYMM that I don't think are ever worth anything

The team member https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/symmetryfund-1335814 who has started this thread has not logged in since Jan 26... about the same moment they stopped responding and this (most possible) scam was exposed

I really want to see admin's answers in this thread, is ths possible? I personally don't consider Symmetry as a scam