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Topic: [ANN] Symmetry - The Safer Cryptocurrency Fund with a Monthly Dividend. - page 4. (Read 20513 times)

newbie
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I don't find necessary info here. Like no of coins And how you gonna achieve your goals etc....Why should I invest With very low activity and lots of questions
newbie
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Hi guys, Im relatively new to this ICO thing. I still need to study the whitepaper of this project. But what payments methods can I use?

Read this http://www.binaryoptionsheriff.com/make-money-ico-investment/ and take a good look at point 1 and 3 (rest also very important)
member
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Hi guys, Im relatively new to this ICO thing. I still need to study the whitepaper of this project. But what payments methods can I use?
member
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I was wondering if this ICO will be open to US and Chinese citizens?
Waiting for more info to get a deeper understanding about the project.
member
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Thanks for the great project. A good coin with excellent opportunities. I wish you success in your further work Cheesy
Is there a min/max eth contribution?
member
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This a long-term and promising project which is handled by professional team. Do you accept BTC?
newbie
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Thanks for the replies everyone. Some good counter-arguments. The company/team directly involved could certainly be scammers, but I also wonder if they might be innocent and have been hacked somehow? It's certainly worrying that they haven't addressed these allegations directly and have shut down their communication channels instead of tackling the situation head-on or releasing a press statement though.

I think I will wait until it hits an exchange (if that ever happens).

If somehow they might been hacked. I would think Andrew would reply to my messages and email. He has not even read my telegram messages since Jan 25 or respond to my email about my guestions to comment on the sitiuation after Rijnsent posted his findings here and in their telegram.

newbie
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thier ether account.
https://etherscan.io/address/0xbEadA3257BFf2d41eF6e563190e6624B57eAcc89

look where all the coins get transferred to they go through a few wallets but end up.

https://etherscan.io/address/0xb3aaaae47070264f3595c5032ee94b620a583a39

check the comments against this wallet.

Interesting, and valid point... although the comments suggest that address has been associated with phishing scams. I haven't contributed to the ICO myself, but is it possible that the contribution system has been compromised by a hacker?


the first ether to hit that account was transferred to that account so if it was it was right from the beginning 49 days ago. it was happening from the start. and you would pick up pretty quick if it had been stolen. if it was me i would be watching my wallet from the start.

i'm sure they are doing all sorts of nasty shit all over the internet why would you stop at one thing. this is why it makes it dodgy. if it only held the ether from symmetry fund then it wouldn't look bad.

you also noticed that they have gone dead on twitter. going from posting multiple times a day to nothing. they know the jig is up. the site is still up so people stupid enough to keep giving them ether will keep going into the account.
newbie
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i have nothing to do with Symmetry fund. i took over the Telegram channel to help prevent people from getting scammed.

Suspected that might be the case after I posted, so if a channel gets deleted anyone can register one with the same name?

thier ether account.
https://etherscan.io/address/0xbEadA3257BFf2d41eF6e563190e6624B57eAcc89

look where all the coins get transferred to they go through a few wallets but end up.

https://etherscan.io/address/0xb3aaaae47070264f3595c5032ee94b620a583a39

check the comments against this wallet.

Interesting, and valid point... although the comments suggest that address has been associated with phishing scams. I haven't contributed to the ICO myself, but is it possible that the contribution system has been compromised by a hacker?

Thanks to bootlegneurons to point out some of the weaker spots in my list of Big Red Flags, but it's still a SCAM. Let's assume for a second you're not part of this scammers team, in that case I'd like to thank you for help me improving my skills to find a next scam.
Definitely not part of the team - SYMM has just been on my radar and I was planning to invest because it looked promising. Just trying to do due diligence and clear up some points. We're on the same team.

Vlad a speaker? A pity they don't mention him on their site: https://www.bitcoinsuperconference.com/speakers/ , I bet you all the SYMMs I have that I will get feedback from that conference that they don't know any Vlad Savochkin.
Yeah, he's not listed, so I emailed them directly at [email protected] to ask, and got a reply from a Richard Jacobs from Speakeasy Marketing confirming his attendance.

You totally got me on the Cayman Island registry vs Chamber of Commerce, I might consider striking it of my list and getting myself a free account next time. But then, you could have sent my this official paperwork too Smiley : http://loophole4all.com/?id_i=82395&id_e=63594&company=SYMM+LTD.
Haha... I think there's a slight difference with your site! But I see your point, it's probably easy enough to register a company if you're a scammer.

Andrew Lewin does exits... Thanks for the link to that Financial Services Register. Did you however expand the block at the bottom? That Andrew Lewin has worked for e.g. Royal Bank of Canada and Kleinsworth Benson bank. That is a 100% mismatch with the profile that the "Andrew Lewin" of Symmetry has given, it's a different person.
Good catch, thanks for pointing that out.

To all here who still believe it is not a scam.  I suggest to wait after ico ended and buy it on the open market afterwards or wait for the second round to invest. You might pay a bit more for it if it turns out te be legit, but it saves you money if it is not.
^ Very good idea. I'm sure a managed fund style of token isn't going to trade at much of a premium over its NAV.

Thanks for the replies everyone. Some good counter-arguments. The company/team directly involved could certainly be scammers, but I also wonder if they might be innocent and have been hacked somehow? It's certainly worrying that they haven't addressed these allegations directly and have shut down their communication channels instead of tackling the situation head-on or releasing a press statement though.

I think I will wait until it hits an exchange (if that ever happens).
newbie
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To all here who still believe it is not a scam.  I suggest to wait after ico ended and buy it on the open market afterwards or wait for the second round to invest. You might pay a bit more for it if it turns out te be legit, but it saves you money if it is not.
member
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A friend told me about the concept of the project and now I want to invest.
What is the minimum investment?
newbie
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member
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This project is legit for sure. The team has been doing business for years and the performance is well. All I am concerned is how much fund it can raise.
newbie
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Keep up the good work and don't let us down. There are so many fakes coins these days but this is real, just spoke to the admin and they have prospect
member
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Very promising project in my opinion. I liked it right away because I read the description and what the dev team plans to do in the future. If it goes that way, then we are waiting for a profit project for early investors. And I wanted to know the maximum hardcap of the project?
newbie
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  • Official website's telegram link now directs to a group called "symmetryfund is a SCAM !!!!!" ... seriously? This makes me think it's a salty community manager who has either hacked or had control of the account and has had a falling out. Scammers are not batsh*t crazy and wouldn't advertise the fact that they're scammers.


i have nothing to do with Symmetry fund. i took over the Telegram channel to help prevent people from getting scammed.


thier ether account.
https://etherscan.io/address/0xbEadA3257BFf2d41eF6e563190e6624B57eAcc89

look where all the coins get transferred to they go through a few wallets but end up.

https://etherscan.io/address/0xb3aaaae47070264f3595c5032ee94b620a583a39

check the comments against this wallet.
newbie
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sr. member
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Merit: 251
Look out... this is a scam!!

I was in close contact (telegram only)  with the team and they offered me a job as community manager ( I do this for other funds as well)  and was about to take it. ( they even paid my salary for the first month the day before it got exposed as scam  from this address  https://etherscan.io/address/0xbe308fb255a5740ff106b00042fe6c0c1d035444   0.5 eth and 3 symm )

I was also starting to investigate this and more ppl in my network did this.  Since the shit hits the fan after  the post from rijnsent  (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28390839)  he got deleted and banned. They did this to all the ppl in chat who where critical, noticed that in the week before also. But after his post and ban, many ppl from my network started reposting it...  After a few hrs they stopped responding and banning... few hrs later entire chat channel was deleted

Andrew from symmytry has not responded or even read my messages from to me since jan 25th . Chat channel is deleted since yesterday, but the website is still running and you can still invest. STAY AWAY FROM THERE!!!!!


Regards

Jelle TheLazyCryptoInvestor

Not sure how to report scam tokens here to this forum but this is one for sure!!

Thank you Jelle and Rijnsent and GrassBite to share this with us.  Saved me a lot of money. Was about to enter large...
However, they already collect some money with that trick. I hope the number of gullible people will not grow anymore. this is really outrageous, I feel sorry for investor.
newbie
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Still wondering how I almost invested in it... this scam took some preparation. Andrew and Vlad seems to know what they were talking about. Also hiring experienced outsiders like me to gain trust. I was amazed withing 3 minutes after they found out who I was... "Do you have experience modding the group ? We are hiring"  and within a hour a deal was made. I was about to start monday, but I do not want to be linked or connected or involved in this company

If you knew what this was and agreed to work and get paid to promote this, resulting in more victims..Than you are involved with them, aren't you??

If I knew, yes... I did not know. Was looking for a new investment found this, joined chat, read a lot. Start asking questions. At that time it still seems legit. And when they offered me the job last Tuesday it was even more confirmation and trust building for me.  Simultaneous I did continue my digging and ppl in my network as well. Friday after the shit hits the fan. I tried to warn as many as I could even in symmetry telegram channel, not long after that the entire channel was deleted.  My post last night here was the first opportunity I had to post here. Still have no answers back from Andrew.

Pls folks stay out of this ico
full member
Activity: 392
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Still wondering how I almost invested in it... this scam took some preparation. Andrew and Vlad seems to know what they were talking about. Also hiring experienced outsiders like me to gain trust. I was amazed withing 3 minutes after they found out who I was... "Do you have experience modding the group ? We are hiring"  and within a hour a deal was made. I was about to start monday, but I do not want to be linked or connected or involved in this company

If you knew what this was and agreed to work and get paid to promote this, resulting in more victims..Than you are involved with them, aren't you??
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