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Topic: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) - page 37. (Read 228559 times)

hero member
Activity: 849
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A quick note to say Hi and thanks for the great pool, Pooler! Grin
Thank you!

So, Pooler, if you have time, please explain your current stance on Merged mining and if the coins are going to the bonus LTC.
Yes, that's how it works. It is briefly explained on the pool's homepage, as well as in the FAQ and in the first post of this thread:

Since September 11, 2014, the pool supports merged mining of Dogecoin and other cryptocurrencies, resulting in higher payouts than with a regular Litecoin pool.
Every valid share you submit to this pool is instantly credited to your account at the current pay-per-share (PPS) rate. This rate, expressed in litecoins, also takes into account merged-mined coins such as Dogecoin, resulting in higher payouts than a regular Litecoin pool. Thanks to merged mining, you have to pay no fee; in fact, your earnings may even be higher than with a 0-fee PPS system.
[...] Thanks to merged mining, a technique that allows multiple cryptocurrencies to be mined simultaneously, it is possible to achieve PPS ratios higher than 100%. [...]
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
Hi Pooler and Gang:

A quick note to say Hi and thanks for the great pool, Pooler! Grin

I have just started mining after a 2 year hiatus. I was running GPU rigs until asics started. Still have a bunch of Thunder's laying around.  Now running 2 x Antminer L3+ .

After searching for a pool with a clean, efficient interface and good track record I ended up on litecoinpool.

FYI, my L3+ are running very smooth at a freq of 400 which gives about 520 MH/s. I live in the boonies and as such my internet connection can take a serious beating after school gets out each day. So, from previous mining experience, I will rarely, if ever, find a block ;(.  But the thrill of the chase is still there.

I have done some searching on the pool website and found nothing on the merge mining issue. After a bitcoin talk search I did see that Pooler said they would start merged mining soon after it was available.

As you all know, DOGE coin is going a little coo coo and making a run. I would love to be able to keep my Doge merged mined coin segregated.  Need my Doge pack back Smiley

So, Pooler, if you have time, please explain your current stance on Merged mining and if the coins are going to the bonus LTC.

Thanks again.

HIOAg and away!
newbie
Activity: 26
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Thanks a lot pooler - I tried now 64 an miners are running for 2 days now so things look very promising!
hero member
Activity: 849
Merit: 507
I tried now to force the difficulty (sorry, overread this in your first post) - maybe a stupid question but how do I know now which difficulty to set? (I used default = 64 now)

Trial and error. For a Gridseed I would try powers of two between 16 and 256. In theory the share difficulty shouldn't affect stability (only bandwidth usage and the precision of hash rate estimates), but as I've mentioned before many older ASICs are finicky.
newbie
Activity: 26
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I tried now to force the difficulty (sorry, overread this in your first post) - maybe a stupid question but how do I know now which difficulty to set? (I used default = 64 now)
hero member
Activity: 849
Merit: 507
Anybody got an idea what the problem could be? I doubt that the USB cables / power supply is the problem as the issues started directly after I switched to litecointpool.org

Have you already tried forcing a low share difficulty as I suggested?  This has been reported to help in the case of Gridseeds before.
Also don't underestimate the possibility that the power supply is insufficient, as Gridseeds can be very sensitive (they were the first scrypt ASICs after all).  For instance, it is possible that your previous pool used a less intensive merged mining strategy than the one adopted by litecoinpool.org, so your miner would now be receiving Stratum job pushes more frequently, resulting in a higher load.
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
I am a little bit lost now:
I tried to reduce the speed of my GC3355 from 850 down to 600MHz (in steps of 50MHz) but the longest period they worked is ca. 8 hours - after that I have to restart BFGminer to work them again (after getting the idle worker notification).

Before that I was using "WeMineLTC" and did not have to restart BFGminer at all (using is for more than 2 years).

Anybody got an idea what the problem could be? I doubt that the USB cables / power supply is the problem as the issues started directly after I switched to litecointpool.org Sad
newbie
Activity: 26
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@pooler: Strange thing is that I was using my GC3355 for 2 years with WeMineLTC and just recently switched to litecoinpool and now the problems started!? I reduced now to 800MHz - lets see if this helps.
legendary
Activity: 1168
Merit: 1009
Happy customer here!! Been using this pool for years with various types of miners very reliable and stable. Thank you keep up the good work we need strong litecoin pool operators now more then ever. We appreciate your great work
member
Activity: 79
Merit: 18
I am getting more and more "Idle Worker Notification" mails and have to restart BFGminer to get my GC3355 running again. What can I do to prevent this? Thanks!

I was getting zombie processes from cgminer and a load average around 3 until I started cutting back my clock rate.  I have another power supply in the works too.  It was all a temporary setup to verify that my Gridseed was OK before Aliexpress's return period was over.

Edit:

Well, no, I'm not out of the woods yet.  It runs 2 or 3 days and stops, and that was at 700 MHz.
https://i.imgur.com/Yu6AL37.png
Power supply wiring is my next suspect I guess.  It just went away according to cgminer and my load average went up to 3 with no visible tasks using a lot of CPU.  Maybe some sort of panic in libusb causing the high load average?  Top doesn't show system processes by default I think.  I was upstairs when it happened.  Turned everything off and back on, and it's fine again.  I've never had it on any other pool, but I could try it on multipool in a week or so.
member
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There are a couple of links to 3rd-party apps at the bottom of the FAQ on the website, but they were added quite some time ago, so I don't know if these apps are still working. (If you happen to find another app that supports the pool's API, please let me know.) By the way, if you like the web/iPhone interface, last time I checked there was an option in Safari to make it accessible directly from the home screen.

All 3 of the Android apps listed still work as of a couple weeks ago.  But they all just wrap the page you can get by going to the link listed under HTML under API on your dashboard page.  So I put a link to that on my home screen from Firefox.  It's handy to be able to check your workers and the exchange rates all in the same page.
hero member
Activity: 849
Merit: 507
I really like this pool and its web/iPhone interface. Is there an app for that?

There are a couple of links to 3rd-party apps at the bottom of the FAQ on the website, but they were added quite some time ago, so I don't know if these apps are still working. (If you happen to find another app that supports the pool's API, please let me know.) By the way, if you like the web/iPhone interface, last time I checked there was an option in Safari to make it accessible directly from the home screen.
member
Activity: 104
Merit: 10
Computer Service Tech
Thanks, That is what I suspected. Back in the day I mined with Slush and there was a slight variance too.

Setting up on litecoinpool.org with an L3+ was as easy as can be and rewards are about 1.5 LTC /day with 500MH/s. Grin

not sure what you mean. My L3's and L3+'s are mining what they say they are mining on the pool...assuming I have this correct?



It just took a couple days for it to catch up, now I am getting spikes up to 540 MH.

I really like this pool and its web/iPhone interface. Is there an app for that?

Thank you pooler for all you do.
hero member
Activity: 849
Merit: 507
I am getting more and more "Idle Worker Notification" mails and have to restart BFGminer to get my GC3355 running again. What can I do to prevent this? Thanks!

If your Gridseed stops some time after it starts mining, the first things I would check are the power supply and the USB cable. The second thing I would try is lowering the clock rate in steps of 50 MHz to see if that can fix the issue. Last thing that might help in the case of Gridseeds is forcing a difficulty of 256 or lower.
copper member
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1465
Clueless!
Thanks, That is what I suspected. Back in the day I mined with Slush and there was a slight variance too.

Setting up on litecoinpool.org with an L3+ was as easy as can be and rewards are about 1.5 LTC /day with 500MH/s. Grin

not sure what you mean. My L3's and L3+'s are mining what they say they are mining on the pool...assuming I have this correct?

newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
I am getting more and more "Idle Worker Notification" mails and have to restart BFGminer to get my GC3355 running again. What can I do to prevent this? Thanks!

Code:
{
"pools" : [
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://litecoinpool.org:3333",
"user" : "xxxx",
"pass" : "xxxx",
"pool-priority" : "0"
}
]
,
"api-listen" : true,
"api-mcast-port" : "4028",
"api-port" : "4028",
"expiry" : "120",
"expiry-lp" : "3600",
"failover-only" : true,
"log" : "20",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"no-show-processors" : true,
"no-show-procs" : true,
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "60",
"scrypt" : true,
"skip-security-checks" : "0",
"submit-stale" : true,
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/share/bfgminer",
"scan" : [
"gridseed:all"
],
"set-device" : [
"gridseed:clock=850"
],
"api-allow" : "W:127.0.0.1,192.168.1/24"
}


member
Activity: 104
Merit: 10
Computer Service Tech
Thanks, That is what I suspected. Back in the day I mined with Slush and there was a slight variance too.

Setting up on litecoinpool.org with an L3+ was as easy as can be and rewards are about 1.5 LTC /day with 500MH/s. Grin
legendary
Activity: 1109
Merit: 1000
Is missing 20-25 MH/s out of 500 MH/s normal here for poolside stats?

It's normal for an A4 (mine is more like 50MHs), can't say for the L3/L3+, but suspect it would also be true.
member
Activity: 104
Merit: 10
Computer Service Tech
Is missing 20-25 MH/s out of 500 MH/s normal here for poolside stats?
hero member
Activity: 849
Merit: 507
Sorry but it is my duty to point out that mining on commodity hardware such as CPUs and GPUs is a bad idea. And mining on a phone is an exceptionally bad idea. Saying that it is unprofitable would be a euphemism; even assuming free electricity (and there is no such thing) and that the network difficulty is not going to rise, it would take a phone years just to make 0.01 LTC.
Yes, I know it's generally a bad idea except I've only got 1 asic and about 6 computers.   A Raspberry Pi 3 on all 4 cores is about 1/1000 the speed of a Gridseed G-Blade, and runs on about 7 watts.  I'm tempted to try to do the GPU assembly language to get their GPUs online to as a 5th thread.  These little ARM machines impress me.  And a core on a quad core phone is about the same as one of a Raspberry Pi's cores, but it eats battery fast.  I've also installed cpuminer under the Debian on my phone, not much difference in performance from Pocket Miner.  The alternative is spending more money on dedicated hardware (ASIC) that can't be used for anything else.  An ASIC can't be reprogrammed to a different algorithm, cpus and gpus can.  SHA256 is built into some of the CPUs http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0514g/way1395175472464.html not that I've managed to make use of it.
What you say is true, but it doesn't change the fact that nowadays mining Litecoin with anything other than an ASIC is unprofitable. If you're not convinced, I invite you to do the math. At the current price of $28, and assuming you pay 0.06 $/kWh (which is very cheap), in order to be profitable at 7 W you would have to do at least 125 kH/s. You didn't mention your Pi's hash rate, but if my memory serves it should be lower than that by at least one order of magnitude.

Wait a minute.  Pooler, the same Pooler that has a cpuminer on github?  https://github.com/pooler/cpuminer  Apparently.
Yes, I'm the one who wrote all the assembly code, among other things.

I don't run them just to do hashing, I mostly don't shut them off.  Or I'll run cpuminer on one core while I'm doing other stuff.  I've mostly used one of my Raspberry Pi 3s for the past several months.  It's what I'm using right now to write this.  Less power than my Gekko 2pac probably.
Keep in mind that the power draw depends significantly on the CPU load. Even if we assumed that mining would only cause a 2 W extra draw, it would still take at least 40 kH/s to justify it. And even if we somehow managed to achieve such hash rate, it would take 3 months to mine 0.01 LTC, and that's before subtracting the cost of electricity!
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