Topic: [ANN] The world's first handheld Bitcoin device, the Ellet! - page 14. (Read 45628 times)
Very cool idea! We're looking forward to trying one out. Sorry if this has already been covered, but when do you expect you'll be able to deliver these?
I was under the impression scrambling is just a measure to prevent anyone from just "listening in" by turning on their ham radio--I'm talking about the following
Digital Represented values are encrypted into a Digital format by a key the receiver already knows.
The digital encrypted message is converted into analog values that are represented by a key table that the receiver already knows.
Now the sender broadcasts the message in analog(sound/light spectrum) but it isn't represented with two values, instead it is represented by the whole analog spectrum.
The receiver decodes the analog signal with a key table... Then decrypts the signal into digital represented values.
Im not sure what my "theory" would make the broadcast sound like to a listener but at least it doesn't sound like off and on ticks and thus the FCC would get a signal but it would be static... so the FCC could prove a signal is coming from somewhere but not know why they are broadcasting static
(of course im still assuming my broadcast would sound like static or weird noises of some sort... makes me want to try it out...)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrambler
Wikipedia gives me the impression scrambling is just packets of analog signals moved in different positions in the timeline where the reciever has a decoder that buffers packets and then puts them in the correct order for play back.
I'm interested in your opinion because you seem to know what your talking about.
would the Ellet be able to talk the Bitcoincard protocol. That's the real question.
I don't see how anything standard would be able to talk to that non-standard device. I guess we could go out of our way to add specific hardware to our device that would allow it to talk to bitcoincard, but I don't see any company would do that that didn't have a contract directly with the other company. Put in other words, do iPhones have built in receivers for ham radio?Technically, yes they do. A standard wifi chip is capable of transmitting & receiving in the nearby ham band (I beleive 70cm band IIRC) and use of these features require a ham callsign to be transmitted with the SSID. There are two channels available, and are traditionally called Zero and -1, since they are on that side of the unlicensed wifi band. Unlockling these capabilities, at a minumum requires rooting your phone, though. In the ham world, this is commonly called the 'Hinternet'. Google is your friend.
Also, the FCC doesn't allow encryption. I know the standard bitcoin protocol doesn't use encryption, but does the ellet's use of the electrum protocol?
Now I really want to get out my HAM equipment.
I'm interested in see facts about the FCC not allowing encryption.
Also How would they prove the "static" they are hearing is encrypted code awaiting to be decrypted?
Depends if you sent the values in analog or digital format
if your gonna obfuscate analog signals, its called scrambling.
Digital Represented values are encrypted into a Digital format by a key the receiver already knows.
The digital encrypted message is converted into analog values that are represented by a key table that the receiver already knows.
Now the sender broadcasts the message in analog(sound/light spectrum) but it isn't represented with two values, instead it is represented by the whole analog spectrum.
The receiver decodes the analog signal with a key table... Then decrypts the signal into digital represented values.
Im not sure what my "theory" would make the broadcast sound like to a listener but at least it doesn't sound like off and on ticks and thus the FCC would get a signal but it would be static... so the FCC could prove a signal is coming from somewhere but not know why they are broadcasting static
(of course im still assuming my broadcast would sound like static or weird noises of some sort... makes me want to try it out...)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrambler
Wikipedia gives me the impression scrambling is just packets of analog signals moved in different positions in the timeline where the reciever has a decoder that buffers packets and then puts them in the correct order for play back.
I'm interested in your opinion because you seem to know what your talking about.
would the Ellet be able to talk the Bitcoincard protocol. That's the real question.
I don't see how anything standard would be able to talk to that non-standard device. I guess we could go out of our way to add specific hardware to our device that would allow it to talk to bitcoincard, but I don't see any company would do that that didn't have a contract directly with the other company. Put in other words, do iPhones have built in receivers for ham radio?Technically, yes they do. A standard wifi chip is capable of transmitting & receiving in the nearby ham band (I beleive 70cm band IIRC) and use of these features require a ham callsign to be transmitted with the SSID. There are two channels available, and are traditionally called Zero and -1, since they are on that side of the unlicensed wifi band. Unlockling these capabilities, at a minumum requires rooting your phone, though. In the ham world, this is commonly called the 'Hinternet'. Google is your friend.
Also, the FCC doesn't allow encryption. I know the standard bitcoin protocol doesn't use encryption, but does the ellet's use of the electrum protocol?
Now I really want to get out my HAM equipment.
I'm interested in see facts about the FCC not allowing encryption.
Also How would they prove the "static" they are hearing is encrypted code awaiting to be decrypted?
Depends if you sent the values in analog or digital format
if your gonna obfuscate analog signals, its called scrambling.
would the Ellet be able to talk the Bitcoincard protocol. That's the real question.
I don't see how anything standard would be able to talk to that non-standard device. I guess we could go out of our way to add specific hardware to our device that would allow it to talk to bitcoincard, but I don't see any company would do that that didn't have a contract directly with the other company. Put in other words, do iPhones have built in receivers for ham radio?Technically, yes they do. A standard wifi chip is capable of transmitting & receiving in the nearby ham band (I beleive 70cm band IIRC) and use of these features require a ham callsign to be transmitted with the SSID. There are two channels available, and are traditionally called Zero and -1, since they are on that side of the unlicensed wifi band. Unlockling these capabilities, at a minumum requires rooting your phone, though. In the ham world, this is commonly called the 'Hinternet'. Google is your friend.
Also, the FCC doesn't allow encryption. I know the standard bitcoin protocol doesn't use encryption, but does the ellet's use of the electrum protocol?
Now I really want to get out my HAM equipment.
I'm interested in see facts about the FCC not allowing encryption.
Also How would they prove the "static" they are hearing is encrypted code awaiting to be decrypted?
Depends if you sent the values in analog or digital format
