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Topic: [ANN] The world's first handheld Bitcoin device, the Ellet! - page 9. (Read 45664 times)

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You're fat, because you dont have any pics on FB
Im sooo sad about this...

This is sorely missing the boat..

No one is throwing out their wallets, or getting rid of their purses..

Its ANOTHER device people dont need, a luxury, specially when everyone NEEDS a cell phone and can have a wallet on it..

And most men will still carry a wallet..   Im sad to say, a card I can fit into my wallet will win everytime.. 

Matthew..  What are you thinking! Sad

Im sooooooo heartbroken this is the design your going for..    Cry
legendary
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Hello!
http://i.imgur.com/H9tFP.jpg I re uploaded it here since that other site sucked. I have two questions though. Is this open source, will anyone be able to develop applications for this? Secondly, is it real?
legendary
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Psion
A dynamicly updated routing table, or a routing table at all, is not a likely condition of this kind of network.  Sensor style networks use passive monitoring to detect reachable peers on the fly, and it's a completely different model than a network that is trying to emulate the mass data transfer capabilities of a wired network.  A bitcoin transaction doesn't need to be routed, it simply needs to be broadcast.
Well, you can use flooding but that doesn't scale either. Imagine if, every time someone in New York City made a transaction or sent a message, every single tiny, battery-powered, low-bandwidth node in the city had to wake up and forward it on. You'd run out of bandwidth and kill your battery life with even small amounts of traffic.

Except thats not what happens either. Please do a bit of research; this topic has been covered quite well already on this forum.  Keywords "Dash7" "Jabber" and "XMPP" should help.
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Psion
A dynamicly updated routing table, or a routing table at all, is not a likely condition of this kind of network.  Sensor style networks use passive monitoring to detect reachable peers on the fly, and it's a completely different model than a network that is trying to emulate the mass data transfer capabilities of a wired network.  A bitcoin transaction doesn't need to be routed, it simply needs to be broadcast.
Well, you can use flooding but that doesn't scale either. Imagine if, every time someone in New York City made a transaction or sent a message, every single tiny, battery-powered, low-bandwidth node in the city had to wake up and forward it on. You'd run out of bandwidth and kill your battery life with even small amounts of traffic.
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Not as a watch. Do you think women will like your "male" looking watch?
legendary
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You are WRONG!
UPDATE: I have a video now, but it's not to my liking. I'm going to have the engineer take another. (Basically the video doesn't work hard enough to prove that the device is sending/receiving bitcoins) I'd rather be trolled for being a bit late (I'm used to that with so many projects running simultaneously) than more idiots spreading FUD about it being fake. Updated title to reflect the late status.
I know a man buying time when I see one. What's on your heart, Matthew?
i know! Matthew misses Atlas and the attention he got from him. Therefor he is now trying to get more attention by making up some nonexistent bitcoin device, to impress the community.
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UPDATE: I have a video now, but it's not to my liking. I'm going to have the engineer take another. (Basically the video doesn't work hard enough to prove that the device is sending/receiving bitcoins) I'd rather be trolled for being a bit late (I'm used to that with so many projects running simultaneously) than more idiots spreading FUD about it being fake. Updated title to reflect the late status.
I know a man buying time when I see one. What's on your heart, Matthew?
legendary
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Mesh networking isn't implausible at all, hams do it constantly.  That is exactly what a packet TNC does.  The real question is can they do it in such a small device and with such small power requirements, but 100 meters is nothing for a modern digital mode even at low power levels, so I don't consider that unrealistic either.  In fact, I'm hoping that they are under stating the effective range, because 100 meters isn't practical except in some pretty dense urban areas.  I'd say the bear minimum effective ranges start at 300meters.  And nor is communications sans (commerical) infrastructure implausible, for that is the very nature of mesh networking anyway.
Packet TNCs are set up at fixed locations and use manually-configured routing though, right?


AX25 networking protocol would largely be manually configured, but that's no longer a requirement.  They were never really intended to be fixed.  Although more modern modes don't call themselves packet radio and don't use hardware TNC and don't use AX25 protocol, they have their basis in packet.   

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 That's not mesh networking in the sense we're talking about here. The hard part of this kind of mesh networking (I believe the technical term is "mobile ad-hoc networking") is dynamically-updated routing between a bunch of small moving devices, all of which has too little memory and compute power and bandwidth to store a full global routing table. Normal mesh networking is similar but has stationary nodes that are typically more powerful.

A dynamicly updated routing table, or a routing table at all, is not a likely condition of this kind of network.  Sensor style networks use passive monitoring to detect reachable peers on the fly, and it's a completely different model than a network that is trying to emulate the mass data transfer capabilities of a wired network.  A bitcoin transaction doesn't need to be routed, it simply needs to be broadcast.
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Subscribing to see what all the craze is about Cheesy
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Mesh networking isn't implausible at all, hams do it constantly.  That is exactly what a packet TNC does.  The real question is can they do it in such a small device and with such small power requirements, but 100 meters is nothing for a modern digital mode even at low power levels, so I don't consider that unrealistic either.  In fact, I'm hoping that they are under stating the effective range, because 100 meters isn't practical except in some pretty dense urban areas.  I'd say the bear minimum effective ranges start at 300meters.  And nor is communications sans (commerical) infrastructure implausible, for that is the very nature of mesh networking anyway.
Packet TNCs are set up at fixed locations and use manually-configured routing though, right? That's not mesh networking in the sense we're talking about here. The hard part of this kind of mesh networking (I believe the technical term is "mobile ad-hoc networking") is dynamically-updated routing between a bunch of small moving devices, all of which has too little memory and compute power and bandwidth to store a full global routing table. Normal mesh networking is similar but has stationary nodes that are typically more powerful.
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I hate these reddit page links. I dont even know what to click on. If someone didn't repost the link to the borders bitcoin magazine article I would of never found it. I only thing I saw some who posted its not leaked if you(MNW) released it. I agree.
I need someone to teach me how to click on Reddit links... Roll Eyes
Bounty 0.01 BTC

Another bounty if someone can notify me when the Ellet, Bitcoincard, and Raspberry Pi are available for shipping...

The Raspberry Pi has been shipping for a while now. I got mine about a month ago...
Yeah, but it's like BFL Singles - there's a backlog of .25 million orders and if I ordered one now, I'd get it in a year
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I hate these reddit page links. I dont even know what to click on. If someone didn't repost the link to the borders bitcoin magazine article I would of never found it. I only thing I saw some who posted its not leaked if you(MNW) released it. I agree.
I need someone to teach me how to click on Reddit links... Roll Eyes
Bounty 0.01 BTC

Another bounty if someone can notify me when the Ellet, Bitcoincard, and Raspberry Pi are available for shipping...

The Raspberry Pi has been shipping for a while now. I got mine about a month ago...
hero member
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0xFB0D8D1534241423
I hate these reddit page links. I dont even know what to click on. If someone didn't repost the link to the borders bitcoin magazine article I would of never found it. I only thing I saw some who posted its not leaked if you(MNW) released it. I agree.
I need someone to teach me how to click on Reddit links... Roll Eyes
Bounty 0.01 BTC

Another bounty if someone can notify me when the Ellet, Bitcoincard, and Raspberry Pi are available for shipping...
sr. member
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uh ohhhhh...

That watch looks like an Ipod nano, the ones they have wristbands for..

Thats fugly, just like the ipod nano watches no one wants.....  I pray that isnt it..   Undecided

Im really really disappointed if this is it..

I really hate to be negative on this, I had high hopes, but this is ugly as hell..  

If it isnt a high tech usb stick, or a creditcard design, I cant see everyone flocking to a watch, I dont wear watches, as many others dont.
Specially when my cell phone IS my watch..

I dont wanna be a fashionable bitcoiner, I want to be a functional bitcoiner..

Watches are for fashion.. plain and simple..
You think watches are only for fashion?  I believe these 10 million dollars disagree with you...

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android

I for one will likely still prefer blockchain.info's app running on my phone.  The ellet still sounds interesting though.  Especially if it comes out anything like the pebble.


Besides the fact that you perfectly proved my point...

Do you think its because these people need the time ? or its a FASHION statement, and e-ink is the fashion statement in this case..

Please think before you post..

I do understand there is a lot of watch wearer's..

But think of all the failures in watches..

For example.. the dick tracy, walkie talkie watch... The calculator watch..   and so on...

The problem is, they are too small or too large to remain functional yet not obnoxious..

I don't wear a watch, but I did buy a Pebble. Not for the fashion because they're not all that eye catching. I bought it because I'm a complete nerd.

As for Bitcoins, I don't think I want them in a watch. That's just my opinion, though.
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You're fat, because you dont have any pics on FB
uh ohhhhh...

That watch looks like an Ipod nano, the ones they have wristbands for..

Thats fugly, just like the ipod nano watches no one wants.....  I pray that isnt it..   Undecided

Im really really disappointed if this is it..

I really hate to be negative on this, I had high hopes, but this is ugly as hell..  

If it isnt a high tech usb stick, or a creditcard design, I cant see everyone flocking to a watch, I dont wear watches, as many others dont.
Specially when my cell phone IS my watch..

I dont wanna be a fashionable bitcoiner, I want to be a functional bitcoiner..

Watches are for fashion.. plain and simple..
You think watches are only for fashion?  I believe these 10 million dollars disagree with you...

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android

I for one will likely still prefer blockchain.info's app running on my phone.  The ellet still sounds interesting though.  Especially if it comes out anything like the pebble.


Besides the fact that you perfectly proved my point...

Do you think its because these people need the time ? or its a FASHION statement, and e-ink is the fashion statement in this case..

Please think before you post..

I do understand there is a lot of watch wearer's..

But think of all the failures in watches..

For example.. the dick tracy, walkie talkie watch... The calculator watch..   and so on...

The problem is, they are too small or too large to remain functional yet not obnoxious..
hero member
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uh ohhhhh...

That watch looks like an Ipod nano, the ones they have wristbands for..

Thats fugly, just like the ipod nano watches no one wants.....  I pray that isnt it..   Undecided

Im really really disappointed if this is it..

I really hate to be negative on this, I had high hopes, but this is ugly as hell..  

If it isnt a high tech usb stick, or a creditcard design, I cant see everyone flocking to a watch, I dont wear watches, as many others dont.
Specially when my cell phone IS my watch..

I dont wanna be a fashionable bitcoiner, I want to be a functional bitcoiner..

Watches are for fashion.. plain and simple..
You think watches are only for fashion?  I believe these 10 million dollars disagree with you...

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android

I for one will likely still prefer blockchain.info's app running on my phone.  The ellet still sounds interesting though.  Especially if it comes out anything like the pebble.
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Is the third generation Ellet going to incorporate ReRAM?

Could be. That's a manufacturing issue that I'd leave to our manufacturers.

UPDATE: I have a video now, but it's not to my liking. I'm going to have the engineer take another. (Basically the video doesn't work hard enough to prove that the device is sending/receiving bitcoins) I'd rather be trolled for being a bit late (I'm used to that with so many projects running simultaneously) than more idiots spreading FUD about it being fake. Updated title to reflect the late status.
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Is the third generation Ellet going to incorporate ReRAM?
legendary
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I won't be interested until it's part of my Google Glasses.
legendary
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What is it?

The Ellet (as an Electronic Wallet) is a way to send money from the palm of your hand. This device has been secretly developed as the BitDex for over the past 9 months. It comes in at a similar weight and height as the iPod nano 3rd generation and lets you send Bitcoin, Namecoin, Litecoin, Paypal, Dwolla, and almost anything else you can imagine, all instantly from the palm of your hand!

Why is it important?

The Ellet solves several issues that payment processors have, but most speci--


So Fry wants two ellets? Tongue
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