Topic: [ANN] $XQN Quotient Financial Network | PoW Scrypt, PoS Blake-256 | UPDATE NOW - page 39. (Read 194427 times)

Price would not go anyway with this type of POS. I try to keep the coin in wallet but the stake did not make any profit for me like before. Hold about 30K but git stake less than 100XQN and the price

Yes, exactly this happened to me too, I made small groups, like 178 XQN x 3, 200 XQN x 10 and so on....and it took my whole group of coins, like 8 groups, 1600 XQN and calculate like one, 16.18....personally, I don't like that, and before was much more better, and as I can notice many people left XQN because of that, I hope that solution will come very fast, or turn back to old, will be the best !!

Maybe to make like 10 addresses and send to every address 200 coins, anybody try that ?

recieved my coins.cheers dev

Read this:

How do you get on the queue, is it automatic, or do you need to register somewhere?

Alright, thanks for your reply!

I'm going to run through the queue and start sending out coins later tonight

Does anyone received XAI from Abacus? Or how long does it take normally till a ticket is processed?

AFAIK I've seen this in nearly every PoS coin - it's relevant to the time it takes for a block to stake.  For instance, when XQN still had 618 as the max subsidy I would stake blocks of ~5k XQN sit for ~2 days so when it staked they would become become ~5618 XQN blocks as opposed to two blocks ~2809. 

Same thing has happened to me with TEK, HBN, HYP, etc, it just takes longer; likely related to a coins min stake age.

Old wallet will be trying to produce too large stakes (up to 618 XQN), so it is bound to only have orphans, has the majority of the network is clearly operating on the most up-to-date wallet and the old (larger) stake sizes are no longer allowed. You need to upgrade that ASAP (as I understand, you need a Mac build, sorry, can't help you there).

when will the mac wallet update be ready? i can't seem to stake with old wallet on mac, i only get orphans..

I think your Spanish analogy is a little off   It's more like a group of folks went off and learned some carny-ized dialect of Spanish and the native Spanish speaker is trying to decipher it   Somewhere along the way, the terminology was co-opted.

I understand what you're showing here now.  I need to think about it a bit, because - having an actual understanding of the nuts-and-bolts of Sunny King's proof-of-stake protocol - I am not necessarily convinced that the modifications some other coins have made to this process are the best idea and they may be unwittingly compromising the algorithm.  I'll have to look at their implementation, but I think there is a better/more sound way to deal with it.

That's not how it works.  There is a much simpler reason for the effect you are seeing.

Yes, difficulty is high.  I have some blocks of coins around that size that are a week old that have not staked.

Does XQN have some sort of code in it that tries to do us a favor by recombining small blocks together?  That is what it appears.  Seems like the sort of thing a well meaning developer would include if he didn't realize just how important it is to those who stake consistently to have complete control over their coins.

Those who stake consistently and think about these sorts of things are seeking any edge possible.  Obviously, all PoS coins have their own unique parameters.  By paying attention to these parameters, we seek to stake our coins as efficiently as possible and gain even a small edge over the other stakers.  Optimum block size is normally a very important factor to consider when seeking an efficient staking strategy.  Anything that takes away our control of the size of our blocks of coins is going to cause an experienced staker to look in your direction like you just ripped a really loud and exceptionally smelly fart.

As there is no cap on time for accumulating coin age, whatever mechanism is coded into XQN that causes blocks of coins to recombine or sweep together is completely unnecessary and counter productive.  In the next release, I vote for the kiss (keep it simple stupid!) approach to solving the issue.  Just remove whatever code there is that recombines and auto-combines blocks of coins.

Maybe sure all the transactions are like this one.



Nothing fancy, no recombination.  A block of coins stakes, the reward is added on and the single block becomes 2.  That's it.  Simple and easy.

hi,

can someone explain me one thing ?

i have a block of 490 xqn from 05-01-2015 and the wallet show me 2 days to stake ?!?!?

is that normal ?
b.r.

Trying to think of a way to explain what we mean.  I guess even thought you are developing 2 coins, you haven't really lived in this world very long.  Have you ever heard that thing people say about learning spanish in a classroom environment?  I've always heard that if you learn spanish in the classroom, then go to Mexico and try to communicate with native spanish speakers, neither of you will understand each other even though you are both technically speaking the same language.  You are like the guy that learned spanish in the classroom and we are like the natives.  This isn't the point of my post, just thought it was an interesting and apt analogy.

When we say blocks of coins we mean all of our chunks of coins that are eligible for staking.  All of our stake eligible inputs you could also say.

This would be what happens in a standard PoS transaction.  Coins stake, the single (chunk, block, input) of coins splits and becomes 2.



In this one, for some reason it was decided that these inputs would be too small if the block of coins were allowed to split into 2, so the coins stake and the earned stake is added but we only end up with 1 block of coins rather than the standard 2.



Now this is the one that really bugs the piss out of me.  Here, for some reason it is decided a whole group of inputs are too damn small, so the client sweeps them all into one during the stake transaction.  I have never seen this happening before.

I got some output back from the graphic designer, so I can roll any tweaks into the next wallet update for the new graphics/icons.

Right...what I'm trying to determine is if it is just a UI/presentation thing in coin control, or if there is something actually happening on a transaction level.

What they mean is that the individual stacks of coins in their wallets are recombining.
I'd think splitting and recombining of blocks will happen more frequently in the next little while as the wallet tries to figure out the optimal size per stack to stake efficiently.

I can say that I have a few stacks over 3000 coins which haven't split. I find stacks of 500-800 work best.

Could you guys provide me with a couple of example transactions where this is occurring, a couple links to the block explorer?  I guess I'm getting caught up semantically with the terminology, but when I think of blocks I'm thinking of....well, blocks in the blockchain.  When you are talking about splitting and auto-recombining of blocks, I think you mean that your UTXO's (unspent tx outputs) are getting combined in the stake transaction, but from quickly clicking through a few blocks in the block explorer I haven't been able to track down a live example of this happening.

I'd like to see it in the block explorer...