[ANN] Zcoin (XZC) - Implementing ZKP privacy without trusted setup - page 203.

wanghaoqd

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Quote from: georgeandy on April 24, 2017, 09:06:40 AM

Quote from: wanghaoqd on April 23, 2017, 08:16:24 PM

Hi,
For Chinese miners, you can try our Zcoin mining pool:
http://xzc.newpool.top

欢迎中国的矿工兄弟们使用我们的零币挖矿矿池：
http://xzc.newpool.top
还有其它山寨币币种，详见：
http://www.newpool.top/

6卡 470 ETH矿机挖这个收益一天有多少？

A卡目前挖这个币效率不高，可以等换MTP算法之后再看看。

cran

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Quote from: talikila on April 25, 2017, 06:09:36 AM

Quote from: tomsmith26 on April 24, 2017, 02:00:36 AM

Quote from: chraibi on April 23, 2017, 11:44:17 AM

Hi,
i'm newbie in zcoin and i really like this coin, it's promising.

I want to know why price is very Low in some markets like Tradesatoshi.com : https://tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=XZC_BTC

the price is about 0.0047 BTC for one XZC ?

Thanks

Yes, it's very cheap now, guy. If you have your money there then you go buy all batchs under 0.005btc immediately and you get a big profit when you transfer zcoin to bittrex exchange for selling. it's very easy to make money , guy.

I'm waiting for new price to buy more zcoins. it's really hard to make zcoin down under 0.005btc at this time unless MTP algo was not done by Devs .
I still believe in this project and I will support this coin.

on the exchange tradesatoshi status xzc - Maintenance, and for a long time already

talikila

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Quote from: tomsmith26 on April 24, 2017, 02:00:36 AM

Quote from: chraibi on April 23, 2017, 11:44:17 AM

Hi,
i'm newbie in zcoin and i really like this coin, it's promising.

I want to know why price is very Low in some markets like Tradesatoshi.com : https://tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=XZC_BTC

the price is about 0.0047 BTC for one XZC ?

Thanks

Yes, it's very cheap now, guy. If you have your money there then you go buy all batchs under 0.005btc immediately and you get a big profit when you transfer zcoin to bittrex exchange for selling. it's very easy to make money , guy.

I'm waiting for new price to buy more zcoins. it's really hard to make zcoin down under 0.005btc at this time unless MTP algo was not done by Devs .
I still believe in this project and I will support this coin.

georgeandy

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Quote from: wanghaoqd on April 23, 2017, 08:16:24 PM

Hi,
For Chinese miners, you can try our Zcoin mining pool:
http://xzc.newpool.top

欢迎中国的矿工兄弟们使用我们的零币挖矿矿池：
http://xzc.newpool.top
还有其它山寨币币种，详见：
http://www.newpool.top/

6卡 470 ETH矿机挖这个收益一天有多少？

tomsmith26

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Quote from: chraibi on April 23, 2017, 11:44:17 AM

Hi,
i'm newbie in zcoin and i really like this coin, it's promising.

I want to know why price is very Low in some markets like Tradesatoshi.com : https://tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=XZC_BTC

the price is about 0.0047 BTC for one XZC ?

Thanks

Yes, it's very cheap now, guy. If you have your money there then you go buy all batchs under 0.005btc immediately and you get a big profit when you transfer zcoin to bittrex exchange for selling. it's very easy to make money , guy.

wanghaoqd

newbie

Activity: 54

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Hi,
For Chinese miners, you can try our Zcoin mining pool:
http://xzc.newpool.top

欢迎中国的矿工兄弟们使用我们的零币挖矿矿池：
http://xzc.newpool.top
还有其它山寨币币种，详见：
http://www.newpool.top/

cryptodev2014

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tehMoonwalker

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Awfully quiet around zcoin :/ whats going on any news ?

chraibi

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Hi,
i'm newbie in zcoin and i really like this coin, it's promising.

I want to know why price is very Low in some markets like Tradesatoshi.com : https://tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=XZC_BTC

the price is about 0.0047 BTC for one XZC ?

Thanks

rowenta01

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Quote from: ZenFr on April 23, 2017, 05:24:56 AM

Quote from: J_A_Bankster on April 22, 2017, 04:40:44 PM

...but in terms of order books you are not speaking truth at all. right now on Bittrex the amountof BIDS is 218071.703 XZC
And the ASKS are 38287.400 XZC

Thats seems pretty healthy to me for a rising price and demand for this coin by the market....

Are you serious Huh

Take a real look at the order book : in the bids side, there are 150,250 bids at 1 satoshi, 24,937 at 2 satoshis, 20,000 at 3 satoshis... and so on : these are "fake" bids.
You can't compare these ridiculous more than 200,000 unreal bids (compared to the 218,416 total at this time) bids with those aroud the market price (600,000 sats) : be serious.
Between 4 satoshis and 600,000 satoshis, the reality is they are only 18,000 bids !!! How many bids beetween 600,000 and 500,000 satoshis (for example) ? Very few !

Look at the order book graph, for example with a 25% price range and you will see how the market is really imbalance and can collapse at any time.

For my part, my XZC are sold now.

thank you,

We're very happy for you.

You can leave the thread if you want now.

There seems no more reason for you to be here.

Unless you're there just to make the market fall or attack the Zcoin team that really works really well. And that does everything to anticipate future problems. No currency crypto was perfect after only 7 months of existence. But the Zcoin is a very good piece, full of promise and ambition!

Good day to you,

ZenFr

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Quote from: J_A_Bankster on April 22, 2017, 04:40:44 PM

...but in terms of order books you are not speaking truth at all. right now on Bittrex the amountof BIDS is 218071.703 XZC
And the ASKS are 38287.400 XZC

Thats seems pretty healthy to me for a rising price and demand for this coin by the market....

Are you serious Huh

Take a real look at the order book : in the bids side, there are 150,250 bids at 1 satoshi, 24,937 at 2 satoshis, 20,000 at 3 satoshis... and so on : these are "fake" bids.
You can't compare these ridiculous more than 200,000 unreal bids (compared to the 218,416 total at this time) bids with those aroud the market price (600,000 sats) : be serious.
Between 4 satoshis and 600,000 satoshis, the reality is they are only 18,000 bids !!! How many bids beetween 600,000 and 500,000 satoshis (for example) ? Very few !

Look at the order book graph, for example with a 25% price range and you will see how the market is really imbalance and can collapse at any time.

For my part, my XZC are sold now.

J_A_Bankster

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Quote from: ZenFr on April 22, 2017, 05:33:11 AM

What is the point about XZC today ?

Technics
We are waiting for a very promising improvement (MTP) :-).
This is a all new improvement and it is probably risquy.

Mining
Mining is largely centralized on an unique pool and at any time a 51% attack can be done !
On the others pools, no more gains with a very high unluck score.

Exchanges/trading
For Bittrex (BTC38 has problems for withdrawing our BTC out of china).
The XZC value is stable since more one week, but there is a very big change : no more buyers wall, even at low price, and the order book is completely empty for the buyers side. The order book has only 25 btc for buyers and 725 btc for sellers (x29). And many sellers are at low price, with big volumes (more than 1800 XZC below 600,000 sats, and not mine).
Look at the graph "order book" : it is spectacular : many peoples want sell XZC but very few want buy XZC.

At any time the price may collapse.

Sorry but I stop mining on SuprNova (too much money lost) and I sold my XZC (too risquy with in one side a potential 51% attack and in the other side an order book completely empty for buyers).

I will be probably back when things will be better for XZC.
Cheers

Im not a miner so not educated on your technical analysis but in terms of order books you are not speaking truth at all. right now on Bittrex the amountof BIDS is 218071.703 XZC
And the ASKS are 38287.400 XZC

Thats seems pretty healthy to me for a rising price and demand for this coin by the market....

ZenFr

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What is the point about XZC today ?

Technics
We are waiting for a very promising improvement (MTP) :-).
This is a all new improvement and it is probably risquy.

Mining
Mining is largely centralized on an unique pool and at any time a 51% attack can be done !
On the others pools, no more gains with a very high unluck score.

Exchanges/trading
For Bittrex (BTC38 has problems for withdrawing our BTC out of china).
The XZC value is stable since more one week, but there is a very big change : no more buyers wall, even at low price, and the order book is completely empty for the buyers side. The order book has only 25 btc for buyers and 725 btc for sellers (x29). And many sellers are at low price, with big volumes (more than 1800 XZC below 600,000 sats, and not mine).
Look at the graph "order book" : it is spectacular : many peoples want sell XZC but very few want buy XZC.

At any time the price may collapse.

Sorry but I stop mining on SuprNova (too much money lost) and I sold my XZC (too risquy with in one side a potential 51% attack and in the other side an order book completely empty for buyers).

I will be probably back when things will be better for XZC.
Cheers

ZenFr

legendary

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Quote from: thefix on April 21, 2017, 07:30:09 AM

We found a block pretty soon after, so it looks like our luck has changed and that extra hash power is making a difference!

Yes but the block was with an (un)luck of 142,66 : 42.66% of our shares (mining power) losts !
And the block after (the last one found, just now) is with an (un)luck of 179,03 : 79,03 of our shares (mining power) lost !

And this is after a previous block with an unluck of more 500% !!!

Very very big unluck pool !

thefix

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Quote from: dasgardo87 on April 21, 2017, 11:43:05 AM

Quote from: zcoinofficial on April 20, 2017, 10:44:09 PM

Quote from: Goruno on April 20, 2017, 09:19:40 PM

Quote from: zcoinofficial on April 20, 2017, 09:06:26 PM

Quote from: ocminer on April 20, 2017, 04:36:33 AM

Thanks for your trust, you're right, the income is the same after time.

I've dropped the fee to 0% on suprnova in the hope that some folks might spread over some hash.

Yup Suprnova's pool is pretty stable and I believe they also now have an Asia Pacific node for our Chinese and Asian friends.

When is the MTP released ? I'm waiting for that news as I know it will be released in early April but until now I can not see anything about this action.
I'm still waiting for this news soon and this fact will not make us down. I need a certain time for official MTP lauching. Thanks.

MTP has already been released on testnet as promised in early April so it's running on Zcoin testnet and people are free to test it on the zcoin mtp branch.

We don't have an official time for releasing on mainnet as we want to make sure it is relatively bug free and achieves the purpose we want but all we can say is 'soon'. It's hard to give definite date for bug fixing and dev but will update as we go along.

yes take your time sir, we dont want a buggy code destroy zcoin, in other hand what do you think about recent comment? is what they said is true (more easier to get attack when it's get centralized hash power)? if yes are you have any intention to do something to decentralize hashing power (maybe halving block time and halving block reward, or something) ? im sorry if sounds noob, tbh i am new miner here, but trully i wish a good thing happen to this coin

Miners have to make sure that they do not concentrate so much hash power on one pool, so it really falls on miner to be conscious and divide the hashing power they have. Making sure all miners have access to the fastest miner is also key to make sure that a concentration of hash power is not in the hands of a small group.

dasgardo87

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Quote from: zcoinofficial on April 20, 2017, 10:44:09 PM

Quote from: Goruno on April 20, 2017, 09:19:40 PM

Quote from: zcoinofficial on April 20, 2017, 09:06:26 PM

Quote from: ocminer on April 20, 2017, 04:36:33 AM

Thanks for your trust, you're right, the income is the same after time.

I've dropped the fee to 0% on suprnova in the hope that some folks might spread over some hash.

Yup Suprnova's pool is pretty stable and I believe they also now have an Asia Pacific node for our Chinese and Asian friends.

When is the MTP released ? I'm waiting for that news as I know it will be released in early April but until now I can not see anything about this action.
I'm still waiting for this news soon and this fact will not make us down. I need a certain time for official MTP lauching. Thanks.

MTP has already been released on testnet as promised in early April so it's running on Zcoin testnet and people are free to test it on the zcoin mtp branch.

We don't have an official time for releasing on mainnet as we want to make sure it is relatively bug free and achieves the purpose we want but all we can say is 'soon'. It's hard to give definite date for bug fixing and dev but will update as we go along.

yes take your time sir, we dont want a buggy code destroy zcoin, in other hand what do you think about recent comment? is what they said is true (more easier to get attack when it's get centralized hash power)? if yes are you have any intention to do something to decentralize hashing power (maybe halving block time and halving block reward, or something) ? im sorry if sounds noob, tbh i am new miner here, but trully i wish a good thing happen to this coin

thefix

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We found a block pretty soon after, so it looks like our luck has changed and that extra hash power is making a difference!

thefix

legendary

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Thanks for helping to keep the network more secure, hopefully we can keep the pools under 45% hash power.

Hopefully a few more will come over to keep things secure

CjMapope

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~Full-Time Minter since 2016~

Sorry guys, i was being greedy, i am moving my hash back to supernova :/
i was there originally, but had some connection problems weeks ago and switched, moving a cpu farm takes time so i just left my hash where it was..
i hope we can level out the hash, i remember zcoins last fork when someone tried attacking it and the drama so we dont want that again!

ZenFr

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Quote from: thefix on April 21, 2017, 02:23:17 AM

Had my hash divided between a few pools when suprnova was doing better, now it seems some of the miners with a majority of hash power decided to move. I am moving everything back to suprnova to prevent one pool from dominating. Unfortunately some of those top miners have the equivalent of $50,000+ worth of hashing power, so if we can get even one of the top miners back over to suprnova things would balance out.

I also pointed back all my workers to SuprNova : hope the unluck will change to luck ;-).

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