Topic: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com - page 237. (Read 554387 times)

too late

Golden rule: only invest what you can afford to lose. There isn't high profit without high risk.

Hi,

as you can see gox is shutting down there i had nearly 3BTC. If somone have a little bitcoin leftover feel free to send it to me. i really need it, because i borrowed money from my dad and if i dont pay him i have to sell my rig


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-Thanks

I don't mean to be rude, but discussions of UK electricity rates and decorative koi are not a little off-topic in a thread dedicated to the operations of a specific mining pool.

The information value of a thread in a forum such as this -- especially one as long as this one is -- is directly related to how tightly focused it stays on its topic.

There are any number of excellent venues for side conversations that wouldn't detract from the value of this thread.

oh god, i had 91% reject rate in last 20minutes.

what is going on?

for the brits out there, look for a friendly business to colocate your rig. Goto your nearest small industrial estate and offer them cash and some free IT support and they will snatch your hand off.

They have big open areas so heat no problem but more importantly the leccy is loads cheaper, 9-10p and they get the vat back.

We already have premesis which a large farm is going into shortly and 20% cheaper leccy makes a massive difference.

Sorry Guys, i just realised the Spreadsheet was set to view only. you can have a play with it now or just save your own personal copy.

yeah, obviously you'd have to put i the closest you can for your own personal tariff. this was only a personal tool until this conversation came up.

i calculated the average kw/hr rate from the M&S website using their day and night rates seeing as the Miner would be on 24/7

HA, i know that conversation all too well. Mine was in the living room while i tested its stability. i've since moved it into the loft due to the noise and extra heat. although i noticed that the Temp spiked yesterday when the sun shone on the roof. I'm gonna have to pipe in some ducting i think..

Thanks for the feedback. I'm DBA/data analyst so pretty much everything i do is logged or calculated in a spreadsheet somewhere. it also helps when the GF can see ££ signs infront of things. lol.

All plans are different. In fact there are tons of different tariffs out there for gas and electricity. The only sure-fire way of getting the projected costings accurate is to take a recent bill and divide what you spent by the actual amount of Kw/h you used. This takes into account day & night rates plus any standard daily charges etc. Even then it's not entirely accurate as many tariffs have a more expensive rate for an initial amount of Kw/h, and a lower rate for the rest. So the more power you use, the less the average cost/Kwh will be over time.

INTENSITY and rejects on clevermining. For me rejects seem to be all about intensity with this pool. Not sure I exactly understand why, but that seems to be the answer.
I am using BAMT 1.1 on a Sapphire 7950 3GB. Clock rates 1150/1600.
CGminer version 3.7.3 installed with this guide, so that I can tune intensity tightly - otherwise I=18 is too slow, I=19 too fast
http://www.overclock.net/t/1461916/tutorial-ultimate-guide-to-tweaking-amd-cgminer-3-7-2-kalroth-edition-sgminer-instructions-included-aswell-get-the-most-hash-out-of-your-gpu

Results:
On [Suspicious link removed] I can run xintensity at 575, -g 2, threadconcurrency at 16384 and I get 680kH/s. About 4-5% rejects
Clevermining: I can run xintensity at 350 -g 2 , threadconcurrency at 16384 and I get 631 kH/s. And rejects currently at 4%. If I even wind xintensity up to 380, the rejects start climbing like mad. At x575 they go through the roof.
So the question will be whether the extra profits are worth the rejects.... time will tell.

Sounds like you have an awesome setup and a good plan, I know this is off topic but I'd love to see some pics of your Koi's if you wouldn't mind?

Hi Sirgeekalot,


Great spreadsheet.

I have just been having a quick search for selling btc in UK and seen prices all over the place from as little as £96 up to £326, now that is what I call volatile.

I knew we have a standing daily charge for our electric too, but had not considered that in as we pay for that in any regards to have power to the house anyway. But to accurately figure out all costings you are correct.

Thanks for providing that great spreadsheet, I will show that to the wife when she gets home from work tonight, as currently the mining rig is referred to as that bloody noisy machine that's making the house to warm, yes we have had to turn the heating off in February, the only positive comment the rig gets from my wife is:
 "Its saving money on the electric as we don't have to use the tumble dryer."
Its drying the washing for us with the oscillating fan blowing over the rig with the washing in the same room. LOL

UK peeps, please be aware that therea usually a Daily Charge as well as the Hourly rate.

i'm with M&S (reselling Scottish Electric) and its £0.13 per hw/hr but also a £0.15 daily charge.

I'm with Scottish Power too, but in the SE. I took my last bill and discovered I'm paying on average about £0.13/KwH. That's taking into account day and night rates.


I actually have 4 x 2 card rigs at the moment. Each one pulls about 600W, and I have a Corsair RM1000 running each one. Planning to add an extra card to each rig at some point.


Those rigs run at home totalling about 4Mhash at the moment. I have a number of other machines elsewhere where I don't pay electricity that add up to about 5Mhash, so in total I'm running at about 9Mhash

You must have smaller panels than me, as I have 15 panels on my roof that gives 3.75kw.

In any case, don't forget to factor in that the panels won't be working at max all the time. In the summer it's obviously better but you'll only be generating 3kw at the peak of the day, the rest of the time it will be somewhere between 0kw and 3kw, so you have to take a daily average when working out your figures. Obviously in winter power generation is much reduced.

For example in July 2013 I generated 563Kwh, but in October it was down to 171Kwh, and only 60Kwh in December.

Other than that, if you can successfully channel wasted heat from your rigs to save you having to power the heater, many kudos to you.

Hi, I am running 8 x the R9 280x also 6 on an h81 pro btc board and 2 in my desktop. My mining rig with the 6 cards is pulling 1950 watts and my desktop is pulling 750watts both include the monitors power.

My desktop is on 24/7 for work anyway with an corsairhx850 psu in and the rig has 2x corsair AX1200i's. You seem to have a better rate for your electric than me, I am with Scottish power dual fuel fixed until November 2014, I am paying  £0.14 for my electric, and the solar panels help but they only pay for the pond at best.

Which power provider are you with? and what are you getting charged? I am in the NW UK.

How do you power your 8 cards are they 2 x 4 card rigs ?

I do realise I can hold the coins until the rates get better as I can afford to pay my bills ok, but I think some people actually run there rigs as a business, obviously they will get business rates for there electric unless they run them from home. Then there are people who can get the electric free by putting there rigs at there work place etc and write off the power cost against their tax bill.

There are many scenarios and I am just curious as to how the other miners on this pool are running theirs, as a business, a hobby, a bit on the side, crypto coin traders, money laundering the list is endless. I suppose that's why their is such a fuss about how the trading can be done anonymously. LOL

I do apologise if this is a bit off topic.

This is where I got my prices from http://preev.com/btc/gbp

I actually stumbled into the mining scene after seeing how another guy that keeps koi carp as myself heated his pond............Yes I am a crazy Japanese koi fan.

I actually have a 3kw solar system on my roof, but I never feed back into the grid because I use it all and cannot fit any more than 18 solar panels on my south facing roof.

My koi pool heater is electric and 3kw, so when its on that uses all the power that the solar panels kick out when working at 100%

The theory for me is by using water cooling on the gpus and running the heat exchanger in my koi pond return water feed pipes I will be heating the pond for less than I currently am as the mining rig 6 x R9 280x are only using 1950watts. So in theory I will be heating the pond for less power, allowing the solar panels to feed the rest of the house when at 100% and possibly even feed back into the grid. I will not remove my 3kw pond heater as it is on a thermostat, so if the mining rig ever fails there is a back up, as I am currently heating the pond (2340 uk gallons or 10640 litres) to 17c through the British winter and 27c through the summer, either way I have to pay for that as it is my hobby and I get great pleasure from having my koi.

Once the weather warms up I will be retro fitting the mining rig into the filter house and plumbing the gpu cooling system into the pond water. I saw a guy online in the USA that did something similar who was a big time miner and used his swimming pool to remove the heat from his mining rigs.

So hopefully I will be saving on electric, earning some crypto currency at the same time, doing my bit for my carbon footprint, and possibly making a bit of fiat (cash) too.

I just want to get the rig stable before I place it in the filter house and get other peoples opinions on what they do when the price of electric outweighs what they are earning in crypto currency.

I have thought of the best laid plans of mice and men, and the local burglar coming to steal the mining rig from the filter house (shed) but hopefully my cctv system and the 2 Protection trained Presa Canarios (Curto bloodline from Tenerife) should deter anyone from wanting to risk life and limb for the off chance of a few gpu cards or koi carp LOL.

All opinions and insights appreciated.

Thanks,
Axco.

Hi, I'm in the UK too and currently running a rig with 8 x R9 280x. This costs me ~£7.50 a day to run, so for me as long as I make at least that much in BTC per day then it's worth mining - because the price WILL go back up. It's just low at the moment due to the bad news about MtGox (or good news depending on your point of view).

The prices will have to go down to about £110/BTC before it gets to the point where I'm only just breaking even, so there's some way to go yet.

Remember also that the value of your coins are only what they are when you "exchange" them. Not when you "mine" them. So just hoarde for now while the price is low and wait for the economy to recover.