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Topic: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com - page 32. (Read 554401 times)

legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
We, the community of Clevermining, reply "No, thanks". Argument closed.

Besides, raping shitcoins is part of the fun! Wink

Are you speaking in name of all of your miners? I just hear you do the talking about raping of Guldencoin.

We welcome dedicated miners for Guldencoin, that see this is no good in anyway what Clever is doing especially to Guldencoin. Bitcoin and Guldencoin join hands in the Netherlands. Realise that. See below to mine a good crypto.

ANN: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/na-554412
Official website: https://guldencoin.com
https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-NLG

Mining is possible here:

http://criptoe.com/
http://guldenpool.nl:27100
https://nlg.hardcoreminers.com


full member
Activity: 129
Merit: 100
In the meantime we ask Clevermining to respect our network stability.
That's all we ask, for our merchants and their customers and for the name of crypto in general.

Hope you guys understand and will respect Guldencoin as we will respect multipools now and in the future.

We, the community of Clevermining, reply "No, thanks". Argument closed.

Besides, raping shitcoins is part of the fun! Wink
hero member
Activity: 638
Merit: 500
If the Guldencoin devs wanted to avoid multipool shenanigans, why did they pick the Scrypt algorithm? Why not just fork to some ASIC/multipool resistant algorithm and fade into obscurity?

Can you say "Vertcoin"?

There you have a point. But it was just not foreseen during the days of GPU mining.
Right now the devs try to handle this, and once ok there will be an algo chance for sure.

In the meantime we ask Clevermining to respect our network stability.
That's all we ask, for our merchants and their customers and for the name of crypto in general.

Hope you guys understand and will respect Guldencoin as we will respect multipools now and in the future.

Thanks!
legendary
Activity: 1150
Merit: 1004
If the Guldencoin devs wanted to avoid multipool shenanigans, why did they pick the Scrypt algorithm? Why not just fork to some ASIC/multipool resistant algorithm and fade into obscurity?

Can you say "Vertcoin"?
hero member
Activity: 638
Merit: 500
Possibly the cause is that it is not easy to sell them. Let's be honest, who in her sane mind is going to give away good, valuable bitcoins in order to buy that shit? I am surprised that there is some market at all for those scamcoins.

To be honest? I AM!!!

I hereby openly offer 400sat for each and every one of those shitcoins! So Terk, be the hero to your miners once more, sell them directly to me! Make your miners the profit you promised them!


+1 for LTEX

and...

Yes, Guldencoin is a growing diamond between a lot of, well, less serious, coins. There is great support and a growing community who cares and knows what the near future will bring. Look, for example, at the growing amount of off- and online merchants etc etc etc

There is a great offer from LTEX now, I suggest take it and stop raping the Guldencoin network. This will give us the time to react at multipools and  in the meantime service all merchants and their customers in the way crytpo's should do. So we don't disappoint possible (new) crypto users!

@Terk: you're the men, handle it the right way, you know why  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1025
Merit: 1000
ltex.nl
Possibly the cause is that it is not easy to sell them. Let's be honest, who in her sane mind is going to give away good, valuable bitcoins in order to buy that shit? I am surprised that there is some market at all for those scamcoins.

To be honest? I AM!!!

I hereby openly offer 400sat for each and every one of those shitcoins! So Terk, be the hero to your miners once more, sell them directly to me! Make your miners the profit you promised them!
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1002
HODL for life.
Out of curiosity, the Clevermining states the following: We automatically exchange all mined coins into Bitcoins and pay out entirely in Bitcoins for your convenience.

This is the Clevermining's  Guldencoin deposit wallet on Bittrex: https://explorer.guldencoin.com/#/address/GQsUGhJiKTA35ysmVDMsASHPdXWxbDoqoN

At this moment over 3.7 million Guldencoins aren't sold, all those Guldencoins are mined with the help of your users but didn't reach the Bittrex exchange. Clevermining is stacking up, can you justify this toward your users?


So is the problem that CM is dumping the coins or holding the coins?

If that is really a Bittrex deposit address, you can't possibly know if the coins are sold or not. Exchange trades are off-chain and deposit addresses belong to the exchange, not to the user. So CM could be holding 44 million NLG or zero or anything in between.

If CM is supposed to be all about profit for the miners, why would the pool be sitting on coins?  Wouldn't you need to sell the coins to make the profit?  If the pool is sitting on coins, wouldn't that make you upset if you knew that the pool op was using the pool not for profit, but rather to continue to disrupt a chain out of spite?  I'm sure a lot of miners would like to know the answer to why there could possibly be 4 million coins sitting in storage.  My guess is that this is exactly what is going on- once an algorithm change is made, and CM is kicked off the chain, Terk has enough leverage to highly manipulate price.

If there is a held cache of coins, then why hold instead of paying the miners?  Seems like he's robbing the miners if that's the case.  So what's the reasoning?  I'll let Terk answer that... oh yeah... nm.

Possibly the cause is that it is not easy to sell them. Let's be honest, who in her sane mind is going to give away good, valuable bitcoins in order to buy that shit? I am surprised that there is some market at all for those scamcoins.

Ibistru, just curious... are you one of those "Bitcoin is the only true coin" fanatics, or are you just opposed to researching things before you comment on them?  You seem to think you have Gulden pegged for a scam coin, but I'm guessing you've never even checked it out.  It's hard to call something a scam coin when it's used daily by a large group of people.  I think you forget that traditional financial thinkers(fiat lovers) still call Bitcoin a scam.  Honestly, though, read the thread before you call it a scam coin again.  You're making yourself sound obtuse.

-Fuse
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
I think it is the main NLG-address of Clever https://explorer.guldencoin.com/#/address/GQsUGhJiKTA35ysmVDMsASHPdXWxbDoqoN, not at bittrex?

Edit: it seems that is indeed the address on bittrex. Mined coins are sent from this address https://explorer.guldencoin.com/#/address/Gf7wGAwJGDLfoHcNCRLKZqpk2EQU5ixA6c to that on bittrex. So it looks like stash of CM stiill on bittrex and holded, as it seems a deposit address.

Miners at CM are being used here for own provit as it seems? If so, I think the miningpower of miners here is abused in two ways: Raping good crypto atm and CM holding coins for own provit later on, what should be for the miners here. Miners at CM wake up or ask also some clearance on this.

https://explorer.guldencoin.com/#/address/GQsUGhJiKTA35ysmVDMsASHPdXWxbDoqoN

At this moment over 3.7 million Guldencoins aren't sold, all those Guldencoins are mined with the help of your users but didn't reach the Bittrex exchange. Clevermining is stacking up, can you justify this toward your users?

Again:

Support appreciated. Dedicated miners are welcome, if you see this is in no way a good thing and are willing support good crypto  Cool Almost 70 merchants in the Netherlands now and growing and nice projects coming. We can already buy clothes, coffee, beer, wine, get a massage, lasertreatment, buy books, buy design lamps, buy games, buy services, buy snacks, buy Subway sandwiches etc, etc. with Guldencoin. Support crypto, support Guldencoin. Together with bitcoin we make crypto work in the Netherlands.

Nice projects coming up.

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We welcome visitors at Guldencoin, that see this is no good in anyway what Clever is doing to crypto in general.

ANN: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/na-554412
Official website: https://guldencoin.com
https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-NLG

Mining is possible here:

http://criptoe.com/
http://guldenpool.nl:27100
https://nlg.hardcoreminers.com



legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Out of curiosity, the Clevermining states the following: We automatically exchange all mined coins into Bitcoins and pay out entirely in Bitcoins for your convenience.

This is the Clevermining's  Guldencoin deposit wallet on Bittrex: https://explorer.guldencoin.com/#/address/GQsUGhJiKTA35ysmVDMsASHPdXWxbDoqoN

At this moment over 3.7 million Guldencoins aren't sold, all those Guldencoins are mined with the help of your users but didn't reach the Bittrex exchange. Clevermining is stacking up, can you justify this toward your users?


So is the problem that CM is dumping the coins or holding the coins?

If that is really a Bittrex deposit address, you can't possibly know if the coins are sold or not. Exchange trades are off-chain and deposit addresses belong to the exchange, not to the user. So CM could be holding 44 million NLG or zero or anything in between.
full member
Activity: 129
Merit: 100
Out of curiosity, the Clevermining states the following: We automatically exchange all mined coins into Bitcoins and pay out entirely in Bitcoins for your convenience.

This is the Clevermining's  Guldencoin deposit wallet on Bittrex: https://explorer.guldencoin.com/#/address/GQsUGhJiKTA35ysmVDMsASHPdXWxbDoqoN

At this moment over 3.7 million Guldencoins aren't sold, all those Guldencoins are mined with the help of your users but didn't reach the Bittrex exchange. Clevermining is stacking up, can you justify this toward your users?


Possibly the cause is that it is not easy to sell them. Let's be honest, who in her sane mind is going to give away good, valuable bitcoins in order to buy that shit? I am surprised that there is some market at all for those scamcoins.
sr. member
Activity: 246
Merit: 250
Out of curiosity, the Clevermining states the following: We automatically exchange all mined coins into Bitcoins and pay out entirely in Bitcoins for your convenience.

This is the Clevermining's  Guldencoin deposit wallet on Bittrex: https://explorer.guldencoin.com/#/address/GQsUGhJiKTA35ysmVDMsASHPdXWxbDoqoN

At this moment over 3.7 million Guldencoins aren't sold, all those Guldencoins are mined with the help of your users but didn't reach the Bittrex exchange. Clevermining is stacking up, can you justify this toward your users?

newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
AMD - unlikely. Check X11, neoscrypt, maybe some other newer algos, rental sites, but again, unless you have free or very cheap electricity it's probably not going to make you any money.
NVIDIA cards can be barely profitable on X11/X13/etc but probably not worth the initial investment at this time, with BTC so low.
Thank you.
hero member
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Merit: 500
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Only if you have free electricity. GPUs are not suitable for Scrypt mining anymore.

Another thing to keep in mind is that profitability is not a constant and tends to decline. Next 30 days will likely be less profitable than the last 30 days.
Thank you for answer. May be GPU is suitable for some other mining or not?

AMD - unlikely. Check X11, neoscrypt, maybe some other newer algos, rental sites, but again, unless you have free or very cheap electricity it's probably not going to make you any money.
NVIDIA cards can be barely profitable on X11/X13/etc but probably not worth the initial investment at this time, with BTC so low.

quick question is it profitable to rent a mining rig for cleverhashmining.com?? Or would I not make any money doing it that way?

If you mean clevermining, it's easy to check. As the poster above mentioned you can earn up to 0.0002 BTC per MH/s, probably less now. If you can rent a rig for less than that you might be able to make money, but as far as I know rigs on rentals sites cost more than that.
Thanks mate that is the site I was referring too and I appreciate the speedy response my friend Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Only if you have free electricity. GPUs are not suitable for Scrypt mining anymore.

Another thing to keep in mind is that profitability is not a constant and tends to decline. Next 30 days will likely be less profitable than the last 30 days.
Thank you for answer. May be GPU is suitable for some other mining or not?

AMD - unlikely. Check X11, neoscrypt, maybe some other newer algos, rental sites, but again, unless you have free or very cheap electricity it's probably not going to make you any money.
NVIDIA cards can be barely profitable on X11/X13/etc but probably not worth the initial investment at this time, with BTC so low.

quick question is it profitable to rent a mining rig for cleverhashmining.com?? Or would I not make any money doing it that way?

If you mean clevermining, it's easy to check. As the poster above mentioned you can earn up to 0.0002 BTC per MH/s, probably less now. If you can rent a rig for less than that you might be able to make money, but as far as I know rigs on rentals sites cost more than that.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500
FLY DONATION ADDRESS IN SIGNATURE
quick question is it profitable to rent a mining rig for cleverhashmining.com?? Or would I not make any money doing it that way?
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
Only if you have free electricity. GPUs are not suitable for Scrypt mining anymore.

Another thing to keep in mind is that profitability is not a constant and tends to decline. Next 30 days will likely be less profitable than the last 30 days.
Thank you for answer. May be GPU is suitable for some other mining or not?
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Hello everyone!
I'm newbie in mining and I have a question about profitability. Supposing I have 1 ATI R9 290 card. One ATI R9 290 has hashrate about 900 KH/s=0.9MH/s  according to https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison. Average profit for last 30 days was 0.000201 BTC/day per MH/s. Therefore profit for 30 days should be 0.9 x 0.000201 × 30 = 0,005427BTC.
So monthly profit for R9 290 is 0,005427BTC x 322$/BTC = $1,74
Is this calculation correct or wrong? Thank you.

Only if you have free electricity. GPUs are not suitable for Scrypt mining anymore.

Another thing to keep in mind is that profitability is not a constant and tends to decline. Next 30 days will likely be less profitable than the last 30 days.
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
Hello everyone!
I'm newbie in mining and I have a question about profitability. Supposing I have 1 ATI R9 290 card. One ATI R9 290 has hashrate about 900 KH/s=0.9MH/s  according to https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison. Average profit for last 30 days was 0.000201 BTC/day per MH/s. Therefore profit for 30 days should be 0.9 x 0.000201 × 30 = 0,005427BTC.
So monthly profit for R9 290 is 0,005427BTC x 322$/BTC = $1,74
Is this calculation correct or wrong? Thank you.
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1002
HODL for life.
Terk, and only Terk, please address the concerns of the NLG community.  I don't want to hear from anyone else, unless they are actively involved in the management of the pool and it's policies.

NLG is just another shit coin.
I am surprised you are angered, when you should be grateful of what CM is doing. CM is helping to deflate the pump of this shit coin so that the eventual, inevitable crash will be softer. You should only be happy about this. Unless, of course, you are one of the con men organizing the pump and dump. In that case I can understand your anger.

Mate, I was around calling shit coins shit coins before you probably spent your first satoshi.  I lead a discussion about banning shit coins in the altcoin subforum before 90% of the alts came out.  I've spent enough time looking at coins to know a shit coin from a legitimate prospect.  Do yourself a favor and do some reading.  It's probably the first coin I've seen in a long time that can truly stand alone and succeed.  You could make a lot more money with solid prospects, mate... remember that.

I have no interest in pump and dumps.  My post history would show that.  I was against Fontas when he was pushing them on BTC-E almost 2 years ago now.  I stand behind coins with meaning... not pump and dump coins.  So no, I have no thanks to give to CM.

I find it funny though that you quote my statement about wanting to hear from Terk only.  I even made it bold.  Maybe I should have gone back to 1990s web design and added the tag for effect.

A lot of talk, but still no Terk.

-Fuse
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
NLG is just another shit coin.

Support appreciated. Dedicated miners are welcome Cool Almost 70 merchants in the Netherlands now and growing and nice projects coming. We can already buy clothes, coffee, beer, wine, get a massage, lasertreatment, buy books, buy design lamps, buy games, buy services, buy snacks, buy Subway sandwiches etc, etc. with Guldencoin. Support crypto, support Guldencoin. Together with bitcoin we make crypto work in the Netherlands.

And the reason you cannot do that with bitcoins is...? Oh yes, the same reason of Aurora Coin. Smiley Nothing new here, the usual scam.

Guldencoin is better accepted in the Netherlands, because of the loss of the Gulden. In no way to compare with Aurora, my friend.
Better read about Guldencoin, before you say something stupid. You should be proud of this coin, if you really support crypto. It makes bitcoin also stronger in the Netherlands, not weaker. Win-win for both.
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