Topic: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com - page 99. (Read 554380 times)

I've mined mostly on CleverMining and WafflePool. I'm back on CleverMining because WafflePool has had profitability problems recently.

Usually CM and WP are pretty close in profitability, according to suchmoon's awesome charts. So I expect that WP's slump will be over at some point.

For now I will stay on CM because multi-pools are all about averages and it doesn't pay to pool hop too much. But at some point when the profitability argument is gone, I will likely return to WP.

Why? Because I prefer some of the service features that WP offers. Here's a summary of what I like:

• Individual workers for the same BTC address - I really like being able to easily see the poolside hash rate of individual rigs without having to deal with multiple addresses. Of all the pools I've mined, CM is the only one that doesn't have this feature.
• Lots of statistics - I like being able to see the recent work shifts, earnings log, and coin balances. It gives me a sense of momentum that you don't get from CW's arguably prettier, but more static site.
• API - There are several WP applications out there that do a really nice job of providing statistics, graphs, etc. Some are web apps, and some are mobile apps. A clean API enables this kind of development by third parties. That in turn increases the value of the service.
• Better visibility - I get the argument that Terk needs to keep wraps on what coin is being mined. But with CM there is no visibility at all into what's going on. WP does a much better job there, although it does sometimes have "hidden" coins (as during the whitecoin pump and dump). And usually, recent slump aside, WP competes nicely with CM profitability wise, so increased visibility doesn't seem to be hurting WP.

I'm know that none of the above feature requests are new. I just want to add my voice to what I'd like to see.

While I hope that CM maintains high profitability, and that's the biggest "feature" there is, my guess is that that won't always be the case. Profitability ebbs and flows, and the "whale" splashes between the pools.

What I would like to see is CM be more competitive from a feature perspective other than just profitability. That way when profitability equals out again (and it will), I'll have fewer reasons to go back to WP.

Just to be clear, I'm not posting this to make people defensive or start a thread war. I'm just indicating features do matter to some of us. And when profitability is a wash, features win.

Ok, everything's clear.

P.S. As I see cudaminer software doesn't provide information about the difficulty...

For me, just curiosity...

I seriously don't care what coin we are mining, what I care about is that I'm making the most out of my hashpower.

What's so clever about CleverMining is largely Terk.
The pool does not publish which coins are being mined because...well, I think it's the fact that Terk considers that info to be hard-earned work product, and to publish it would be to give away free to other pools what Terk has...you know, spent hours to figure out.  Or maybe he doesnt like being second-guessed...

But there are lots of clever miners here, too, and some of them have posted about how to figure out, from reading the display of your miner software, what coin is likely being mined at a given moment.  I think it has to do with looking at "difficulty", then finding a site that lists the profitability of all coins, sort the list by difficulty, then seeing if you can match the difficulty of a specific coin to the difficulty we are presently mining at.

Ok, thank you.

I am browsing the site and can not find any information about what type of coins are being mined and blocks processed...

Some coins are very fast, and there are new blocks like every minute.
CleverMining is a coin-switching pool, so every time it switches a coin, a "new block" will also occur.

Ok, didn't know the difficulty was that high.

What do you mean by 'There's no such thing as too many "stratum detected new block" messages'?
Here is a pic:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/Datox/clever_mining.png

No, not really, 3 accepted shares is about average on 512 share difficulty. There's no such thing as too many "stratum detected new block" messages, by the way.

I'am mining with cudaminer (~137 kh/s), too many "stratum detected new block" messages and 3 accepted shares for 15 minutes... Any recommendations?

It won't. The short term stats in no way can be used to infer anything about future performance.
That's why the hourly stats are already all over the place and to be honest aren't even close to a useful metric.

You're correct but you can at least see where you are closer to, sooner. 0.00150 BTC/day per MH/s or 0.00750 for that half-an-hour period. I made some profits by knowing where I'm closer to. It's not exact figures for sure but helps reduce risk of investment, so to speak.

No, because variance would make those stats fluctuate all over the map, thus making them pointless.
With per 5 minute statistics you would see periods of 0% profit with peaks of 3000% profit.

Hell, the hourly stats are already pretty useless.

Is there any way of seeing the profitability in a more frequent fashion? http://clevermining.com/profits/24-hours updates once an hour on 18th-19th minute. I'd like to be able see that info updated in 5-10 minute intervals somehow. API?

Terk, thanks for settling the score of the unexchanged balance. I had figured that was just coins that had died but glad to see that there is progress to be made there. Perhaps it's less of an issue to me because my balance stuck unexchanged is literally just .002. So. Not too concerned about $0.90


Not only can you target individual units with a clock speed, you can target individual CHIPS within those units with a clock speed. If you run the autotune, you can get the results per chip from the API.

If you're comfortable mucking around with some basic PHP, here's a script that will, based on autotune results, give you a command line string to start up your miner with the per chip settings.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6603449

It seems that when I run cgminer, I have to start the software, THEN plug in the USB...I like it about BFGminer that I can just leave the Gridseeds plugged in and running, and restart the software at will.

I tried a Scripta image, but it was set to Italian, and to a strange keyboard.  For some people it might be easy enough to set locale and keyboard, but...for me, especially with having to guess which key dispenses which character, I punted and moved along to another miner.

I am afraid to overclock, on the theory that I cant afford for mining hardware to go POP.  (That may be an excuse...those resistors are mighty small...) I am still running DualMiners, 1/5 the hash of a Gridseed, and I actually paid more for them than I am now paying for Gridseeds, but they wont earn coin if they're not plugged in.  One of the DualMiners went POP.  Bad voltage regulator, and I plan to replace it.  "When I get a chance." 

Even though I dont have volt-modded Gridseeds, I have over-clocked them, and one of them gave 0 hardware errors at 950, so...it would do me well to be able to target individual units for specific clock speeds, or, as you suggest, use auto-tuning software.

I had this same issue. Had 2 hooked up to a cheep USB hub, and they'd just drop off. 1 was no issue. Got a better hub, and have had no issue since.

I'm using Scripta right now, but I think I'm going to give Minera a shot. I seamed to do better with the auto-tune, and BFGminer doesn't have that. And, until I can get all mine volt modded that might help as well.

Terk,
  Just keep doing what you're doing. You're always going to have someone complain about something you're "not doing right". And, a quick question. Do you plan on doing Vardiff again? Not a huge deal, but just don't like seeing so many rejects on my GridSeeds.

Now convert all my coins.... kidding kidding.

Well, dont process EVERYBODY's unexchanged balance, JUST DO MINE!

Joke.

Thanks very much for responding, and I will indeed try out Minera, but NOT as a solution to my problem, as it turns out.  Let me describe the actual solution, because people are apt to find my OP when searching for their own instance of my trouble.

I have two separate farms of gridseeds, but when I wanted to learn to use Raspberry Pi, I went to a third location.  I wanted just a standalone rig where Pi and I could get acquainted.  No hub, just USB straight from Pi to GS.  For power supply, I used a single-unit, "12v 1A" supply that came with one of my Gridseeds.  And that power supply is what turned out to be the problem.

As soon as the theory hit me that the power supply didnt have enough ass, I wanted to check the voltage under the load of the GS.  It has a molded plug, so no screwing off the plastic cover to get at the terminals.  If it had regular twin lead running to it, I could have stuck a needle in each wire and measured the voltage that way, but no, it's coaxial cable.  So I hooked up another power supply, and bam bam bam one acceptance after another.

It's a blessing, really, I learned lots more about the Pi than I would have...

I understand that nobody likes the unexchanged balance. I'm sorry it is taking so long to resolve. The reason for it is that something what usually is automated failed and stuff needs to be checked and/or done manually (which usually is a long and uphill task to check/deal with every mined block) and it's hard to find the time for it as ongoing pool maintenance and tasks are taking really lot of time. There are tons of new coins to monitor and/or include in the pool, some coins are suddenly forking or causing other problems, some new coins are traded only on new exchanges which API needs to be implemented quickly (because period while these new coins are profitable is very short nowadays), and so on. And it's just the high-level stuff, but there's also lot of low-level tech stuff underneath that require constant attention.

We had a very busy week with several new coins and I didn't really do anything other than ongoing stuff in the last week. This is not an excuse. I know I should find the time to deal with these issues and I'll try to do this as soon as possible. Dealing with our past unexchanged balances is my top priority now and I'll work on it as soon as I will be able to spend time on scheduled tasks. I apologise again for this inconvenience.

I agree. He doesn't need to start his own pool, he can just go away and mine on another pool. Anyway, Terk takes a 2% fee, he's already earned 50.16BTC over the last month.