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sr. member
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When is white paper and testet? What algorithm? Will be premine and how much if yes?
Can you explain with simple words how it work? Like a story about Alisa, Bob and merchant, and how theymake payments to each other, why it safe and etc

Read carefully all pages of this thread and you will receive answers to your questions.
sr. member
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For beginners:

Our "Knowledge matters" free guide it's a good starter for understanding the concept of bitlattice.
This week #knowledgematters 1 http://bitcoinwoman.com/#/knowledge/detail/1
#gaininguniveralknowledge #learningnewthings

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Interesting reading. Thank God i went through and through Sun Tzu - Art of War, while in the military. No it´s "ONLY" a matter of understanding boolean logic and the binary number system:)

As for Sun Tzu i find it very interesting that  he is quoted many times in Command & Leadership theories and well as military strategy , although not as many as in Modern business. Are we at war in business?

To some extent yes, but without fighting:)

One of the principles of Sun Tzu in the Art of Business is Capture your market without destroying it

“Generally in war, the best policy is to take a state intact; to ruin it is inferior to this….For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.”  Sun Tzu

http://www.suntzustrategies.com/resources/six-principles-of-sun-tzu-the-art-of-business/
sr. member
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For beginners:

Our "Knowledge matters" free guide it's a good starter for understanding the concept of bitlattice.
This week #knowledgematters 1 http://bitcoinwoman.com/#/knowledge/detail/1
#gaininguniveralknowledge #learningnewthings

Join us!
Interesting reading. Thank God i went through and through Sun Tzu - Art of War, while in the military. No it´s "ONLY" a matter of understanding boolean logic and the binary number system:)

As for Sun Tzu i find it very interesting that  he is quoted many times in Command & Leadership theories and well as military strategy , although not as many as in Modern business. Are we at war in business?
sr. member
Activity: 374
Merit: 250
Prima Inter Pares
For beginners:

Our "Knowledge matters" free guide it's a good starter for understanding the concept of bitlattice.
This week #knowledgematters 1 http://bitcoinwoman.com/#/knowledge/detail/1
#gaininguniveralknowledge #learningnewthings

Join us!
full member
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Eagerly waiting for invest opportunity
Hi bitcoinpaul, please email us at [email protected] and we'll add you to our list of people interested in investing.
The same apply to everyone else of course.
Good morning,

Just came across your thread and sent an e-mail to try and follow/get involved more closely.
Wish all the best.

Welcome to Bitlattice, we are happy you found out about this and hopefully there is something you may help us with to get more involved. It's a great community and a lot of people are offering their assistance in various ways. We have noticed that the interest in Bitlattice seems to grow rapidly. We are simultaneously preparing for test net and try to follow up every incoming request to help/invest.
sr. member
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Hi bitcoinpaul, please email us at [email protected] and we'll add you to our list of people interested in investing.
The same apply to everyone else of course.
Good morning,

Just came across your thread and sent an e-mail to try and follow/get involved more closely.
Wish all the best.
full member
Activity: 137
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Eagerly waiting for invest opportunity
Hi bitcoinpaul, please email us at [email protected] and we'll add you to our list of people interested in investing.
The same apply to everyone else of course.
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Eagerly waiting for invest opportunity
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I just looked how DAG works and now bitlattice!?  Shocked
sr. member
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We love Twitter but from now you can also follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/bitlattice/ and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/bitlattice/
jr. member
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Creator of Bitlattice
Hi bozzyboo and sotisoti,

1. Complete decentralization, not partial, but complete & full decentralization
It depends what decentralization means. The main idea behind BL is to strip human actors of any impact on network. Thus it is both decentralized (there is no humans led center) and totally centralized (decision process is meant to be performed by network, humans supply computing power only).

2. Fair & open governance model for the benefit of the whole community
Sure. Whatever it means.

3. Privacy functionality with untraceable transactions
Both scenarios can be applied - untraceable and traceable txs. From structural point of view applying them both adds little complexity. And this is my stance. Let users decide. Besides, even with traceable one can easily use mixing solutions.

4. Smart contracts & dApp platform
Yes. With pluggable VMs (I dislike Turing complete ones and would love to see some limited ones).

5. High ability to scale - scalability without impacting on complete decentralization
High. This was one of key factors that prompted me to start developing it.

6. Fair & widespread token distribution
Sure. While there will be no mining in classic sense (PoW), coins will be minted in return for sharing computation power and storage.

7. Programming language that majority of developers can code to - e.g. JavaScript like LISK
Of what? API interface can have some JS port (if someone writes it). But the reference client won't be in JS. For multiple reasons.

Which programming language do you use to build the project?
The prototype is being written in Python (and some C for fast CUDA kernels that aren't actually crucial). It's just easier, transparent to read and interpreter takes care about boring stuff. It's for purpose. The target client is meant to be written in a language with low level access to memory (and some other spices). So, C for instance (it's not yet decided, I'd prefer it). Thus it's easier to prepare cleanly readable code first, test it, and implement into less readable and easier to abuse language. Besides, my style keeps no standards, so it's better if it's at least readable.
The choice of language with low level access to memory is due to things that always made me feel uneasy while analyzing other coins' clients. Would prefer having means to at least obfuscate crypto operations in memory. Especially since Spectre came into light Smiley (just wrote a small, sketchy art about it: https://medium.com/@Hibryda/on-melting-spectre-or-how-soft-hardware-can-lead-to-coitus-interruptus-with-your-coins-6f975e8b22b9 ). Call me paranoid, but it never failed me.

Would all these items be addressed with the lattice structure?
If I understood properly your partly imprecise questions, then the answer is yes.

I am also interested in being an early contributor to any unique/innovative technology!!
Sure, please write to [email protected] . My team will lead you further.

BR,
H
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Which programming language do you use to build the project?
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Hi Hibryda,

The project seems interesting & looking forward to WP & a peer review of said WP.

From my blockchain research & the potential it has to disrupt society, I note the following should be featured:

1. Complete decentralization, not partial, but complete & full decentralization
2. Fair & open governance model for the benefit of the whole community
3. Privacy functionality with untraceable transactions
4. Smart contracts & dApp platform
5. High ability to scale - scalability without impacting on complete decentralization
6. Fair & widespread token distribution
7. Programming language that majority of developers can code to - e.g. JavaScript like LISK


Would all these items be addressed with the lattice structure?

I am also interested in being an early contributor to any unique/innovative technology!!

Thanks
Bozz
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Creator of Bitlattice
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I thought my question was fairly reasonable, but let me rephrase.  The lattice, what type of confirmation time is possible?  I guess it doesn't have blocks, so there will be something else?  How does your lattice achieve consensus?  I don't think these questions are covered, least in much detail yet.
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Confirmation times depend on a distance inside lattice. Thus aren't one number we could just paste here. Besides, as mentioned before - it requires some more in-house and live tests to determine real ranges.
As to structure - it consists of spatially distributed nodes playing different roles. Some act similarily to blocks - they store data (txs, logic, just data). Others are a skeleton of lattice providing means to retain state.
As to consensus - it's detached from external actors and managed via authorities (small programs) "living" in lattice. They must be processed ofc, but processing yields no vector to manipulate them. More will come with WP.
BR,
Hibryda
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According to your post history, you support every project in existence, and thus cannot read even the basics about them, eh?

From my history is quite clear that I do not support every project.  I try only to support a project that is decentralized and trustless (have to draw line somewhere).  It also should have something new or at least newish about it.  Sometimes I do support a clone if the development team looks smart and fast... you never really know what a project can turn into.  If the dev team drops clues of being smart and efficient, then that is a good sign there could be more in store.

I thought my question was fairly reasonable, but let me rephrase.  The lattice, what type of confirmation time is possible?  I guess it doesn't have blocks, so there will be something else?  How does your lattice achieve consensus?  I don't think these questions are covered, least in much detail yet.

Happy new year.
As to confirmation time possible, we expect low-latency/very fast tx time but since we haven't tested yet we don't want to speculate, we will see soon in test net. The exact details will be released when publishing the wp.
sr. member
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According to your post history, you support every project in existence, and thus cannot read even the basics about them, eh?

From my history is quite clear that I do not support every project.  I try only to support a project that is decentralized and trustless (have to draw line somewhere).  It also should have something new or at least newish about it.  Sometimes I do support a clone if the development team looks smart and fast... you never really know what a project can turn into.  If the dev team drops clues of being smart and efficient, then that is a good sign there could be more in store.

I thought my question was fairly reasonable, but let me rephrase.  The lattice, what type of confirmation time is possible?  I guess it doesn't have blocks, so there will be something else?  How does your lattice achieve consensus?  I don't think these questions are covered, least in much detail yet.

Happy new year.

Many of us "old bitcointalk timers" appreciate your enthusiasm and support for projects in this ground-breaking field. At these early days, we are all part of making history whether we actively develop or just participate in discussions such as this.
legendary
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According to your post history, you support every project in existence, and thus cannot read even the basics about them, eh?

From my history is quite clear that I do not support every project.  I try only to support a project that is decentralized and trustless (have to draw line somewhere).  It also should have something new or at least newish about it.  Sometimes I do support a clone if the development team looks smart and fast... you never really know what a project can turn into.  If the dev team drops clues of being smart and efficient, then that is a good sign there could be more in store.

I thought my question was fairly reasonable, but let me rephrase.  The lattice, what type of confirmation time is possible?  I guess it doesn't have blocks, so there will be something else?  How does your lattice achieve consensus?  I don't think these questions are covered, least in much detail yet.

Happy new year.
hero member
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Hi.  Your project sounds interesting.  How does it compare to RaiBlocks?  Are you able to overcome the security issues and lack of decentralization found there?

Bitlattice is not comparable to RaiBlocks or any other block chain solution. As to the structure of Bitlattice, it will not be based on block chain at all, rather on its own platform, the Bitlattice. It will be a lattice structure of nodes with a metric distance between each node. The use of metrics enable shortest vector problem. In the Bitlattice there will be fully encrypted entities that will decide over the state of the bitlattice nodes.


Thanks.  How does one obtain bitlattice coins in order to support the project?
Hi, there are more ways to support the Bitlattice project than to obtain coins. Perhaps you have something you could do for us, if you do please write to us, we are interested in people if you can contribute somehow. You have the email above.
As to ICO - it's possible that we'll run limited scale public ICO just to popularize the idea, but first we intend to publish whitepaper together with working prototype.
Keep following us here on bitcointalk and twitter for general info/update.

I'm not a programmer, but I have a legendary account and can help support you on this forum.

Hi xibeijan, you don't need to be a programmer to help us. Please continue to support us on this forum, tell your friends about this project. If you want to participate in the test net please write to [email protected], and no you don't have to be a programmer to participate in the test net. Thank you for your support!


Alright, I will send email.  Your project looks interesting.  What txs / block will it do and what will be "block" time?  What concensus algorithm will use?

According to your post history, you support every project in existence, and thus cannot read even the basics about them, eh?
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
Hi.  Your project sounds interesting.  How does it compare to RaiBlocks?  Are you able to overcome the security issues and lack of decentralization found there?

Bitlattice is not comparable to RaiBlocks or any other block chain solution. As to the structure of Bitlattice, it will not be based on block chain at all, rather on its own platform, the Bitlattice. It will be a lattice structure of nodes with a metric distance between each node. The use of metrics enable shortest vector problem. In the Bitlattice there will be fully encrypted entities that will decide over the state of the bitlattice nodes.


Thanks.  How does one obtain bitlattice coins in order to support the project?
Hi, there are more ways to support the Bitlattice project than to obtain coins. Perhaps you have something you could do for us, if you do please write to us, we are interested in people if you can contribute somehow. You have the email above.
As to ICO - it's possible that we'll run limited scale public ICO just to popularize the idea, but first we intend to publish whitepaper together with working prototype.
Keep following us here on bitcointalk and twitter for general info/update.

I'm not a programmer, but I have a legendary account and can help support you on this forum.

Hi xibeijan, you don't need to be a programmer to help us. Please continue to support us on this forum, tell your friends about this project. If you want to participate in the test net please write to [email protected], and no you don't have to be a programmer to participate in the test net. Thank you for your support!


Alright, I will send email.  Your project looks interesting.  What txs / block will it do and what will be "block" time?  What concensus algorithm will use?
full member
Activity: 137
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Hi.  Your project sounds interesting.  How does it compare to RaiBlocks?  Are you able to overcome the security issues and lack of decentralization found there?

Bitlattice is not comparable to RaiBlocks or any other block chain solution. As to the structure of Bitlattice, it will not be based on block chain at all, rather on its own platform, the Bitlattice. It will be a lattice structure of nodes with a metric distance between each node. The use of metrics enable shortest vector problem. In the Bitlattice there will be fully encrypted entities that will decide over the state of the bitlattice nodes.


Thanks.  How does one obtain bitlattice coins in order to support the project?
Hi, there are more ways to support the Bitlattice project than to obtain coins. Perhaps you have something you could do for us, if you do please write to us, we are interested in people if you can contribute somehow. You have the email above.
As to ICO - it's possible that we'll run limited scale public ICO just to popularize the idea, but first we intend to publish whitepaper together with working prototype.
Keep following us here on bitcointalk and twitter for general info/update.

I'm not a programmer, but I have a legendary account and can help support you on this forum.

Hi xibeijan, you don't need to be a programmer to help us. Please continue to support us on this forum, tell your friends about this project. If you want to participate in the test net please write to [email protected], and no you don't have to be a programmer to participate in the test net. Thank you for your support!
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