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It wasn't public knowledge though. At all. It was only known by a select few in some inner circle of altcoin manipulation.

He did a code review for Halcyon under the pretense that he was an unbiased third party. You don't see the problem with that?

Yes it was public knowledge :

https://twitter.com/ATC_SECURE/status/510137631284678656

"September 1, 2014

KEY Operating System RC1 - Download at http://downloads.xc-official.com/atcsecure/KEYOS_PROJECT/

Hey guys, it comes with great excitement and a sense of accomplishment that we release the platform on which we will host many of our future services.

In collaboration with Dan Metcalf (ATC_Secure), the core developer of XCurrency, we have created the only non-TAILS operating system environment (based on lubuntu 14.04) that supports full Tor routing. This means all network traffic - not just browser traffic - is routed through the Tor network, ensuring that none of your applications reveal your online identity."

That's not Halcyon.
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Nice reply Dan, don't let them get to you.. It is disgusting what some of these morons are saying.. What is most amusing is face to face I would suggest none of them would have the bottle to even remotely question you, but where they can hide behind a keyboard they think its fair game....

Really really sad some people reduce themselves to this sort of behaviour.


I agree as well, all of my info is public and I'm not hiding behide anything.. bunch of cowards!
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So they exposed the truth about Dan.

Nope. The truth about Dan's code reviews and collaborations was made public at every point on the XC thread. There was nothing to expose.

What they did is make it look like it was a dirty secret, when it wasn't.

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How does the fact that this information leak was premeditated take away from the fact that it's all now confirmed to be genuine?

What's happened is that Prometheus has been subject to smear campaigns in the past that make him out to be a P&D scammer.
Linking Dan to Prometheus therefore appears to wreck Dan's reputation.
But the truth is that Prometheus is no paragon of virtue, but he is not a pump-and-dump scammer either.
And Dan's link to coins Prometheus funds has not been a secret at any point.

So what's all the fuss about? Hearsay about Prom; true records of conversations that have nonetheless been cut to put Prom in as negative a light as they can; another coin doing its best to destroy the competition.

We have nothing to hide. Bring it all out. There is nothing to fear from the truth.



How was Dan being involved in Halcyon public information? Why would someone involved with the coin do a supposedly unbiased code review?

It was made public in the XC thread. There was even a press release about it.

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Why did everyone(especially you) vehemently deny that the chat logs were genuine?

1) I denied the validity of the entire smear campaign.
2) More specifically, I denied the validity of numerous pastebins and whatnot due to their being modified.
3) I denied the truthfulness of 00Smurf's screenshots because of
   (a) their having been cut in such a way as to present Prometheus in a negative light
   (b) their having been presented in the context of a smear campaign that guaranteed they would be misinterpreted.


3b is the subtlest point yet. Texts have two layers: the physical marks on a screen and the meaning they convey. In 00Smurf's case, the physical marks were probably only altered by cutting out sections. However the interpretive layer - the meaning - of the text was heavily and deceitfully modified by the smear campaign that it is a part of.


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Aero, Key and Halcyon are three of the most infamous pump and dumps. Prometheus' MO is already well known.

- Is it? How so? Though a smear campaign?
- There are many, many pumpers in crypto. I'm personally aware that several groups were pumping Hal, and that they were not in communication.
- Just because something that Prometheus funds is dumped, it does not imply that Prometheus dumped it.

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None of this being related to him is an issue really. But the fact that Dan is involved with this scene goes directly against the image of unbiased and "one of crypto's best" that XC has been trying to portray him as.

Well, this is the whole point that I'm contesting. Dan does work with Prometheus. But that does not imply that he's involved in a pump and dump operation. The truth is that he is not involved in a pump and dump operation.

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In the XC thread before it was closed not one person was saying "yeah, we all knew Dan was involved in Halcyon!". It was quite the opposite actually. If fact you deleted posts saying that.

- I don't moderate the XC thread.
- See the above press release about Dan being involved in Hal.
- See the above posts about the two interpretive layers. Claims about Dan's involvement in Hal turn into FUD if uttered in an interpretive context that implies that such an association is illicit.



Doing a code review under the pretense of being an unbiased third party was made public.

Dan being having a major level of involvement in the development of Halcyon was never made public. From him developing their anon tech, to it being "Dan's coin", it's not clear exactly what level of involvement Dan had in it other than the fact that it was clearly a major part.

Whether it was you or Teka who deleted the post(s?) about Dan's involvement in HAL doesn't really matter. I think at that time you were in control of Teka's account at the time as Teka was busy and couldn't moderate that thread. But whether it was you or him who deleted the post is irrelevant really. You tried to cover up the HAL connection from the start.

Obviously unbiased code review is not equal to Dan being involved in HAL. Not at all. In fact it specifically implies that he as NO involvement in the project.




This is an untrue statement I was not a developer for hal, did I make recommendations based on what I found on the review YES, but outside of that, there was no involvement in the project..


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Nice reply Dan, don't let them get to you.. It is disgusting what some of these morons are saying.. What is most amusing is face to face I would suggest none of them would have the bottle to even remotely question you, but where they can hide behind a keyboard they think its fair game....

Really really sad some people reduce themselves to this sort of behaviour.
sr. member
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So they exposed the truth about Dan.

Nope. The truth about Dan's code reviews and collaborations was made public at every point on the XC thread. There was nothing to expose.

What they did is make it look like it was a dirty secret, when it wasn't.

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How does the fact that this information leak was premeditated take away from the fact that it's all now confirmed to be genuine?

What's happened is that Prometheus has been subject to smear campaigns in the past that make him out to be a P&D scammer.
Linking Dan to Prometheus therefore appears to wreck Dan's reputation.
But the truth is that Prometheus is no paragon of virtue, but he is not a pump-and-dump scammer either.
And Dan's link to coins Prometheus funds has not been a secret at any point.

So what's all the fuss about? Hearsay about Prom; true records of conversations that have nonetheless been cut to put Prom in as negative a light as they can; another coin doing its best to destroy the competition.

We have nothing to hide. Bring it all out. There is nothing to fear from the truth.



How was Dan being involved in Halcyon public information? Why would someone involved with the coin do a supposedly unbiased code review?

It was made public in the XC thread. There was even a press release about it.

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Why did everyone(especially you) vehemently deny that the chat logs were genuine?

1) I denied the validity of the entire smear campaign.
2) More specifically, I denied the validity of numerous pastebins and whatnot due to their being modified.
3) I denied the truthfulness of 00Smurf's screenshots because of
   (a) their having been cut in such a way as to present Prometheus in a negative light
   (b) their having been presented in the context of a smear campaign that guaranteed they would be misinterpreted.


3b is the subtlest point yet. Texts have two layers: the physical marks on a screen and the meaning they convey. In 00Smurf's case, the physical marks were probably only altered by cutting out sections. However the interpretive layer - the meaning - of the text was heavily and deceitfully modified by the smear campaign that it is a part of.


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Aero, Key and Halcyon are three of the most infamous pump and dumps. Prometheus' MO is already well known.

- Is it? How so? Though a smear campaign?
- There are many, many pumpers in crypto. I'm personally aware that several groups were pumping Hal, and that they were not in communication.
- Just because something that Prometheus funds is dumped, it does not imply that Prometheus dumped it.

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None of this being related to him is an issue really. But the fact that Dan is involved with this scene goes directly against the image of unbiased and "one of crypto's best" that XC has been trying to portray him as.

Well, this is the whole point that I'm contesting. Dan does work with Prometheus. But that does not imply that he's involved in a pump and dump operation. The truth is that he is not involved in a pump and dump operation.

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In the XC thread before it was closed not one person was saying "yeah, we all knew Dan was involved in Halcyon!". It was quite the opposite actually. If fact you deleted posts saying that.

- I don't moderate the XC thread.
- See the above press release about Dan being involved in Hal.
- See the above posts about the two interpretive layers. Claims about Dan's involvement in Hal turn into FUD if uttered in an interpretive context that implies that such an association is illicit.



Doing a code review under the pretense of being an unbiased third party was made public.

Dan being having a major level of involvement in the development of Halcyon was never made public. From him developing their anon tech, to it being "Dan's coin", it's not clear exactly what level of involvement Dan had in it other than the fact that it was clearly a major part.

Whether it was you or Teka who deleted the post(s?) about Dan's involvement in HAL doesn't really matter. I think at that time you were in control of Teka's account at the time as Teka was busy and couldn't moderate that thread. But whether it was you or him who deleted the post is irrelevant really. You tried to cover up the HAL connection from the start.

Obviously unbiased code review is not equal to Dan being involved in HAL. Not at all. In fact it specifically implies that he as NO involvement in the project.

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Why did everyone(especially you) vehemently deny that the chat logs were genuine?

1) I denied the validity of the entire smear campaign.
2) More specifically, I denied the validity of numerous pastebins and whatnot due to their being modified.
3) I denied the truthfulness of 00Smurf's screenshots because of
   (a) their having been cut in such a way as to present Prometheus in a negative light
   (b) their having been presented in the context of a smear campaign that guaranteed they would be misinterpreted.

3b is the subtlest point yet. Texts have two layers: the physical marks on a screen and the meaning they convey. In 00Smurf's case, the physical marks were probably only altered by cutting out sections. However the interpretive layer - the meaning - of the text was heavily and deceitfully modified by the smear campaign that it is a part of.

Let me get this straight: you admit that the screenshots were not altered except being croped, but they must be fake because what is written there (the meaning) is unbelievable? Is that what your answer sums to? How much nonsense should we swallow before these responses become laughable?

No, you've not grasped the point I made.

Go and read it again.

If the ontology of texts is not a familiar field to you, you might need to think quite hard here.
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Reading is the key to success


I wanted to make a clear and concise statement about all of this mud slinging going around....

As everybody involved with XC's knows I did numerous freelance projects, some of which Prometheus was involved in, like KeyOS and Halc.  Yesterday I was so frustrated with everything that was ALREADY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE [stated on twitter and in the XC OP/ANN] being portrayed as some type of scam.. Accusing me of being Prometheus, accusing me of being the dev. of numerous coins and half the coins in blocknet...that I simply answered no to any and all questions.   None of these allegations are true, I am DAN METCALF and I have never used any other account than ATCSECURE on this forum.  Nor did I ever participate into any scam's, nor would I ever...  the comments about XC's POW being stopped because I was paid off is a complete fabrication.

What I find most interesting about this amount of FUD is that all the information was already public, and to think that I have all these alias's on this forum is complete insanity.

My full statement on the matter can be viewed at http://www.atcsecure.com/blog/Official_Statement.pdf


Also blocknet's assets and funds will be held in escrow and released as development progress's.  Blocknet is not a scam, but a legitimate project and proof of concept code will be available shortly.


Sincerely,

Dan Metcalf


It wasn't public knowledge though. At all. It was only known by a select few in some inner circle of altcoin manipulation.

He did a code review for Halcyon under the pretense that he was an unbiased third party. You don't see the problem with that?


I was an unbiased 3rd party, I didn't write HAL, didn't write cloak [called it a scam] http://pastebin.com/TvJkKiCJ, I'm not some mastermind behind all of these coins as alluded to by several people, instead I'm XC's developer and this all started with SDC [https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6d] - Mr Boh is just an upset SDC investor with an axe to grind and now has created this giant conspriancy theory that I am some evil mastermind behind this cartel of coins... nothing could be further from the truth


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Really text proof? Did you just not go on a long winded explanation of how all that can be faked yet you claim it as proof.


ah no but this is some clear proof here

https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6d

about why this all started, and yeah I have the skype screenshots to back it up too!
legendary
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Why did everyone(especially you) vehemently deny that the chat logs were genuine?

1) I denied the validity of the entire smear campaign.
2) More specifically, I denied the validity of numerous pastebins and whatnot due to their being modified.
3) I denied the truthfulness of 00Smurf's screenshots because of
   (a) their having been cut in such a way as to present Prometheus in a negative light
   (b) their having been presented in the context of a smear campaign that guaranteed they would be misinterpreted.

3b is the subtlest point yet. Texts have two layers: the physical marks on a screen and the meaning they convey. In 00Smurf's case, the physical marks were probably only altered by cutting out sections. However the interpretive layer - the meaning - of the text was heavily and deceitfully modified by the smear campaign that it is a part of.

Let me get this straight: you admit that the screenshots were not altered except being croped, but they must be fake because what is written there (the meaning) is unbelievable? Is that what your answer sums to? How much nonsense should we swallow before these responses become laughable?
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The truth is that Mr Boh has an axe to grind, because he didn't want to merge SDC with XC as discussed with its lead developer.


https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6d



2nd - This conspiracy has blown way out of control, I never was behind cloak, in fact I called it a scam from day#! [http://pastebin.com/TvJkKiCJ]

3rd - I was never the dev of any other coin than XC and blocknet, - I was never the hal dev, I did NOT WRITE ANY of its code

4th - I barely have enough time to manage my full-time business and XC and my family - how could I Have possibly had the time to do any thing else?

5th - Any involvement with PROM was stated publicly when it happened, check twitter and the forum for the record - and thats it

6th - Blocknet funds are going to be escrowed - there IS NO SCAM INVOLVED NOR HAVE I EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY TYPE OF SCAM EVER!!


It is sickening that a few people with false pretense have taken something that was already public knowledge and twisted it.


I've spent over 1000 hours on XC, in order to bring some real value to this marketplace and bridge the gap into the business world with this technology, and the fact that a few paid troll's can cause this much havoc is complete insanity


Get your FACTS straight before making an assumption by a paid troll


Sincerely,


Dan Metcalf



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It wasn't public knowledge though. At all. It was only known by a select few in some inner circle of altcoin manipulation.

He did a code review for Halcyon under the pretense that he was an unbiased third party. You don't see the problem with that?

Yes it was public knowledge :

https://twitter.com/ATC_SECURE/status/510137631284678656

"September 1, 2014

KEY Operating System RC1 - Download at http://downloads.xc-official.com/atcsecure/KEYOS_PROJECT/

Hey guys, it comes with great excitement and a sense of accomplishment that we release the platform on which we will host many of our future services.

In collaboration with Dan Metcalf (ATC_Secure), the core developer of XCurrency, we have created the only non-TAILS operating system environment (based on lubuntu 14.04) that supports full Tor routing. This means all network traffic - not just browser traffic - is routed through the Tor network, ensuring that none of your applications reveal your online identity."
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Why do people continue to play with these folks spreading false information trying to damage Blocknet? It's pointless as anyone that understands crypto and technology will see this as a natural evolution. It's not just "another coin". It can add value and therein exist the intrinsic value, not like the pump and dump scams for which these people base their very existence. I just don't get it. Everyday I wake up and it's like Romper Room in here. Sad.
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I have been out for a few weeks

Are you guys done with XC or is there going to be anther thread open for it ?
legendary
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[snip]

Is there any proof this is fake? If it is not photoshoped and it is true, people should be warned. There was so many red flags about this project, this is a nail in the coffin. Whoever supports scammers should know he will be also marked as scammer when the dust settles and the truth is revealed.

Itod, this morning the veracity of that pastebin was established by an opponent of the Blocknet.

Here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9418340


It shows who the people are behind this smear campaign.

So you're right, people should be warned about Mr Boh, Longandshort, Trollsroyce, Soepkip, and any projects they support.

sr. member
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Reading is the key to success


I wanted to make a clear and concise statement about all of this mud slinging going around....

As everybody involved with XC's knows I did numerous freelance projects, some of which Prometheus was involved in, like KeyOS and Halc.  Yesterday I was so frustrated with everything that was ALREADY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE [stated on twitter and in the XC OP/ANN] being portrayed as some type of scam.. Accusing me of being Prometheus, accusing me of being the dev. of numerous coins and half the coins in blocknet...that I simply answered no to any and all questions.   None of these allegations are true, I am DAN METCALF and I have never used any other account than ATCSECURE on this forum.  Nor did I ever participate into any scam's, nor would I ever...  the comments about XC's POW being stopped because I was paid off is a complete fabrication.

What I find most interesting about this amount of FUD is that all the information was already public, and to think that I have all these alias's on this forum is complete insanity.

My full statement on the matter can be viewed at http://www.atcsecure.com/blog/Official_Statement.pdf


Also blocknet's assets and funds will be held in escrow and released as development progress's.  Blocknet is not a scam, but a legitimate project and proof of concept code will be available shortly.


Sincerely,

Dan Metcalf


It wasn't public knowledge though. At all. It was only known by a select few in some inner circle of altcoin manipulation.

He did a code review for Halcyon under the pretense that he was an unbiased third party. You don't see the problem with that?
legendary
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So they exposed the truth about Dan.

Nope. The truth about Dan's code reviews and collaborations was made public at every point on the XC thread. There was nothing to expose.

What they did is make it look like it was a dirty secret, when it wasn't.

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How does the fact that this information leak was premeditated take away from the fact that it's all now confirmed to be genuine?

What's happened is that Prometheus has been subject to smear campaigns in the past that make him out to be a P&D scammer.
Linking Dan to Prometheus therefore appears to wreck Dan's reputation.
But the truth is that Prometheus is no paragon of virtue, but he is not a pump-and-dump scammer either.
And Dan's link to coins Prometheus funds has not been a secret at any point.

So what's all the fuss about? Hearsay about Prom; true records of conversations that have nonetheless been cut to put Prom in as negative a light as they can; another coin doing its best to destroy the competition.

We have nothing to hide. Bring it all out. There is nothing to fear from the truth.



How was Dan being involved in Halcyon public information? Why would someone involved with the coin do a supposedly unbiased code review?

It was made public in the XC thread. There was even a press release about it.

Quote
Why did everyone(especially you) vehemently deny that the chat logs were genuine?

1) I denied the validity of the entire smear campaign.
2) More specifically, I denied the validity of numerous pastebins and whatnot due to their being modified.
3) I denied the truthfulness of 00Smurf's screenshots because of
   (a) their having been cut in such a way as to present Prometheus in a negative light
   (b) their having been presented in the context of a smear campaign that guaranteed they would be misinterpreted.


3b is the subtlest point yet. Texts have two layers: the physical marks on a screen and the meaning they convey. In 00Smurf's case, the physical marks were probably only altered by cutting out sections. However the interpretive layer - the meaning - of the text was heavily and deceitfully modified by the smear campaign that it is a part of.


Quote
Aero, Key and Halcyon are three of the most infamous pump and dumps. Prometheus' MO is already well known.

- Is it? How so? Though a smear campaign?
- There are many, many pumpers in crypto. I'm personally aware that several groups were pumping Hal, and that they were not in communication.
- Just because something that Prometheus funds is dumped, it does not imply that Prometheus dumped it.

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None of this being related to him is an issue really. But the fact that Dan is involved with this scene goes directly against the image of unbiased and "one of crypto's best" that XC has been trying to portray him as.

Well, this is the whole point that I'm contesting. Dan does work with Prometheus. But that does not imply that he's involved in a pump and dump operation. The truth is that he is not involved in a pump and dump operation.

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In the XC thread before it was closed not one person was saying "yeah, we all knew Dan was involved in Halcyon!". It was quite the opposite actually. If fact you deleted posts saying that.

- I don't moderate the XC thread.
- See the above press release about Dan being involved in Hal.
- See the above posts about the two interpretive layers. Claims about Dan's involvement in Hal turn into FUD if uttered in an interpretive context that implies that such an association is illicit.


legendary
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legendary
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Reading is the key to success


I wanted to make a clear and concise statement about all of this mud slinging going around....

As everybody involved with XC's knows I did numerous freelance projects, some of which Prometheus was involved in, like KeyOS and Halc.  Yesterday I was so frustrated with everything that was ALREADY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE [stated on twitter and in the XC OP/ANN] being portrayed as some type of scam.. Accusing me of being Prometheus, accusing me of being the dev. of numerous coins and half the coins in blocknet...that I simply answered no to any and all questions.   None of these allegations are true, I am DAN METCALF and I have never used any other account than ATCSECURE on this forum.  Nor did I ever participate into any scam's, nor would I ever...  the comments about XC's POW being stopped because I was paid off is a complete fabrication.

What I find most interesting about this amount of FUD is that all the information was already public, and to think that I have all these alias's on this forum is complete insanity.

My full statement on the matter can be viewed at http://www.atcsecure.com/blog/Official_Statement.pdf


Also blocknet's assets and funds will be held in escrow and released as development progress's.  Blocknet is not a scam, but a legitimate project and proof of concept code will be available shortly.


Sincerely,

Dan Metcalf
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Is there any proof this is fake? If it is not photoshoped and it is true, people should be warned. There was so many red flags about this project, this is a nail in the coffin. Whoever supports scammers should know he will be also marked as scammer when the dust settles and the truth is revealed.
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MrBoh and Longandshort are trolls that have spread FUD campaigns against several altcoins such as LXC and XST in the past.  Tranglee received word of their plan to discredit the BlockNET and destroy Dan's reputation on October 21st, days before this FUD campaign erupted.

Oh god this never ends with these guys. The 3 big 80% coin owners-bagholders of ShadowCash (pookie, trollsroyce and longandshort) overrode their dev's decision to break with trolling and cooperate with other coins by forcing him to remove SDC from the Blocknet. To take it even further they have begun subtle fud trolling of the blocknet. This will become more viceral and obvious as time moves on. It will peak with a website yes website they are building purely for the point of discrediting and fudding the blocknet and its founding coins. Who does that? Make a website replete with fake pastebin quotes, gifs, and other smear items, and fud threads? Wouldn't the resources and effort of this be better off to make zk-snarks work and promote SDC?

Seriously these guys must have small penis syndrome. Oh look XST,Fibre, Blocknet has a smaller penis than ours!  Roll Eyes

Mark my words this shit is real and you can quote this thread when they start their full on trolling of Blocknet and it's coins. Same for when the websit goes live. You heard about it here first.  Wink


Now here is more evidence showing that they conspired to destroy Dan's reputation for their own malicious purposes:
https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/GkZ2H9tH


There is no denying that the evidence and facts are public knowledge regarding Dan, XC, and BlockNET... but are you really going to let these trolls, who have a reputation of FUD campaigns, interpret that information for you?  It is clear what their objective is.  

Well this is something.

An opponent of the Blocknet just validated the pastebin that winteriscoming5 posted above:

Check this out:





Here's the incriminating pastebin:






And here's a clone of it just in case someone deletes it: https://artikel-140.nl/bin/?d3c334bdb593cdec#CIjbr05jDkGDyFHk0YGl64PWwPU4bTAKaYY/Bjvgmio=







So they exposed the truth about Dan.

How does the fact that this information leak was premeditated take away from the fact that it's all now confirmed to be genuine?

They wanted to find an honest journalist who would be willing to write a truthful article which would expose the facts. Now they don't seem like a particularly honest bunch themselves but it seems they were part of this "inner circle" and knew what was behind XC and Blocknet. They knew exposing the truth would save people money, so I can't really fault them for that. These lines in particular are interesting:

9:52 AM <•MrBoh> coindada said the devs are all planing on making abusrd btc offf this
...
9:54 AM <•MrBoh> he seems worried its gonna backfire on him though
9:54 AM <•MrBoh> the way hes talking... saying "if we can pul it off"
...
9:58 AM <•MrBoh> just think its fucked people gonan get burnt hard on blocknet

You drawing attention to the fact that people from Shadowcoin were behind this info leak just sounds like an attempt to divert attention away from the fact that all these things that you were refusing to acknowledge as genuine and dismissing as baseless "FUD" are true.

You seem like you're trying to imply that because they potentially have something to gain from the downfall of XC and Blocknet(they are a competing coin after all) that everything that's been confirmed to be true now by Dan and Prometheus themselves should be discarded. I don't follow that logic.

What's going on?  Smiley
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