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legendary
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Really text proof? Did you just not go on a long winded explanation of how all that can be faked yet you claim it as proof.


ah no but this is some clear proof here

https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6d

about why this all started, and yeah I have the skype screenshots to back it up too!


I'm very disappointed with what I am reading there. At what point were you planning to tell that to all the XC investors? Just spring it on us with an announcement?  Undecided

What I see there is quite bit of concern for how the XC holders would take it e.g.
"[10/9/2014 1:02:32 PM] .: So, current XC owners retain their value"
 Why are you disappointed? It looks like an very proper discussion of the options -.

Because the language used indicated there would be no feedback about the decision from the community. Rather announcements and a press release.

A decision involving changing the money supply should require community approval. It's a fundamental building block that all trust comes from.

Dan has clarified and his answer is more than satisfactory to me.
hero member
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Reading is the key to success


I wanted to make a clear and concise statement about all of this mud slinging going around....

As everybody involved with XC's knows I did numerous freelance projects, some of which Prometheus was involved in, like KeyOS and Halc.  Yesterday I was so frustrated with everything that was ALREADY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE [stated on twitter and in the XC OP/ANN] being portrayed as some type of scam.. Accusing me of being Prometheus, accusing me of being the dev. of numerous coins and half the coins in blocknet...that I simply answered no to any and all questions.   None of these allegations are true, I am DAN METCALF and I have never used any other account than ATCSECURE on this forum.  Nor did I ever participate into any scam's, nor would I ever...  the comments about XC's POW being stopped because I was paid off is a complete fabrication.

What I find most interesting about this amount of FUD is that all the information was already public, and to think that I have all these alias's on this forum is complete insanity.

My full statement on the matter can be viewed at http://www.atcsecure.com/blog/Official_Statement.pdf


Also blocknet's assets and funds will be held in escrow and released as development progress's.  Blocknet is not a scam, but a legitimate project and proof of concept code will be available shortly.


Sincerely,

Dan Metcalf


It wasn't public knowledge though. At all. It was only known by a select few in some inner circle of altcoin manipulation.

He did a code review for Halcyon under the pretense that he was an unbiased third party. You don't see the problem with that?


I was an unbiased 3rd party, I didn't write HAL, didn't write cloak [called it a scam] http://pastebin.com/TvJkKiCJ, I'm not some mastermind behind all of these coins as alluded to by several people, instead I'm XC's developer and this all started with SDC [https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6d] - Mr Boh is just an upset SDC investor with an axe to grind and now has created this giant conspriancy theory that I am some evil mastermind behind this cartel of coins... nothing could be further from the truth



Now that everything is out in the open it's up to people to make their own judgments of whether your associations are ethical.

I don't think anyone thinks you're the mastermind behind some cartel of coins. I think Prometheus might be, but not you.

People can debate semantics of whether you're involved in a "pump group" or whatever, it doesn't really matter. There is however a trail of destruction left in your path as evidenced by the charts of all these Prometheus coins that you've done reviews for. Responsibility doesn't fall on you alone, but as long as people know the reality of the situation there's really not much more to talk about. This altcoin community takes people who don't know any better and bleeds them dry. This isn't the first time and it won't be the last. People have to learn to research what they're getting themselves in to. And there's only so much you can do, most people here clearly don't care. But at least the truth is out now.


It was always out in the open on my twitter feed and on the forum from day #1...  2nd, every alt-coin has pretty much the same exact chart, 3rd, I've done reviews on numerous coins that Prom was NOT involved in
legendary
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Really text proof? Did you just not go on a long winded explanation of how all that can be faked yet you claim it as proof.


ah no but this is some clear proof here

https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6d

about why this all started, and yeah I have the skype screenshots to back it up too!


I'm very disappointed with what I am reading there. At what point were you planning to tell that to all the XC investors? Just spring it on us with an announcement?  Undecided


Absolute not, it would have been done by a consensus vote of XC holders and only then if it was "approved" would it have happened

I'm glad to hear that because the conversation implied otherwise with announcements and press release mentioned.
sr. member
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The truth is that Mr Boh has an axe to grind, because he didn't want to merge SDC with XC as discussed with its lead developer.


https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6d



Great shame something couldn't have been worked out.

edit: also good to hear from you again Dan.
full member
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Really text proof? Did you just not go on a long winded explanation of how all that can be faked yet you claim it as proof.


ah no but this is some clear proof here

https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6d

about why this all started, and yeah I have the skype screenshots to back it up too!


I'm very disappointed with what I am reading there. At what point were you planning to tell that to all the XC investors? Just spring it on us with an announcement?  Undecided

What I see there is quite bit of concern for how the XC holders would take it e.g.
"[10/9/2014 1:02:32 PM] .: So, current XC owners retain their value"
 Why are you disappointed? It looks like an very proper discussion of the options -.
sr. member
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Speaking of internet trash....barabbas is here with some vague accusations....yay.
legendary
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I wanted to make a clear and concise statement about all of this mud slinging going around....

As everybody involved with XC's knows I did numerous freelance projects, some of which Prometheus was involved in, like KeyOS and Halc.  Yesterday I was so frustrated with everything that was ALREADY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE [stated on twitter and in the XC OP/ANN] being portrayed as some type of scam.. Accusing me of being Prometheus, accusing me of being the dev. of numerous coins and half the coins in blocknet...that I simply answered no to any and all questions.   None of these allegations are true, I am DAN METCALF and I have never used any other account than ATCSECURE on this forum.  Nor did I ever participate into any scam's, nor would I ever...  the comments about XC's POW being stopped because I was paid off is a complete fabrication.

What I find most interesting about this amount of FUD is that all the information was already public, and to think that I have all these alias's on this forum is complete insanity.

My full statement on the matter can be viewed at http://www.atcsecure.com/blog/Official_Statement.pdf


Also blocknet's assets and funds will be held in escrow and released as development progress's.  Blocknet is not a scam, but a legitimate project and proof of concept code will be available shortly.


Sincerely,

Dan Metcalf








Dan you have only yourself to blame for destroying your reputation, sorry.

You were well known and at some point respected... why use a seudonym? By definition, you know what that means: posting stuff that Dan Metcalf wouldn't. No two-ways about it.

Not to mention the fact that having already one handle instead of your well known name makes quite difficult to believr you dont have others, whether true or not.

The accusations are very specific. There's no avoiding it and it doesnt matter if they can be proven or not. Yhere's no burden of proof in crypto. Anf for ehst I have read, it's game, set and match for you.

How can you even pretend any credibiliyy after reviewing your own code in HAL? Not to mention the actions that followed thrre...

Bye bye Dan Metcalf. Think of another handle because as Dan Metcalf and "actsecure", you are done.

What actions exactly? I am not the hal dev, I"ve stated that numerous times. I'm also not the cloak dev, i'm not the aero dev, I'm not involved in any type of coin-cartel..


Dan, I would appreciate if you don't insult my intelligence, ok?

Pretending now that your association with an "honest promoter" is not BY DEFINITION, willingly and for pay associate with a DUMPER, is insulting me and anyone with an IQ above 50, alright?
Desperation makes us do very stupid things... I would advise to try fading out with at least some semblance of dignity, but it's your funeral.
sr. member
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That's not Halcyon.


Read and read , you are still missing the lines like - https://twitter.com/ATC_SECURE/status/510137631284678656

more and more to catch up

Yes, you and Synechist keep pointing to the fact that he did a code review for HAL as an unbiased third party as some sort of evidence that it was "public knowledge" that he was involved with HAL. The links are obviously deeper than they were made out to be else they wouldn't have been covered up at the start.

We're never going to know just how involved Dan was in HAL, so we can leave it at that and let people make their own judgement on whether someone selling themselves as "the defacto standard of legitimacy" was acting ethically. 
hero member
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that merge would have been dope, i think that rynomster guy is a great dev, i actually feel a little sorry for him with some guys in his corner. perhaps he seeks a new challange some time.
sr. member
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barabas aka Iconic Expert?
sr. member
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Reading is the key to success


I wanted to make a clear and concise statement about all of this mud slinging going around....

As everybody involved with XC's knows I did numerous freelance projects, some of which Prometheus was involved in, like KeyOS and Halc.  Yesterday I was so frustrated with everything that was ALREADY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE [stated on twitter and in the XC OP/ANN] being portrayed as some type of scam.. Accusing me of being Prometheus, accusing me of being the dev. of numerous coins and half the coins in blocknet...that I simply answered no to any and all questions.   None of these allegations are true, I am DAN METCALF and I have never used any other account than ATCSECURE on this forum.  Nor did I ever participate into any scam's, nor would I ever...  the comments about XC's POW being stopped because I was paid off is a complete fabrication.

What I find most interesting about this amount of FUD is that all the information was already public, and to think that I have all these alias's on this forum is complete insanity.

My full statement on the matter can be viewed at http://www.atcsecure.com/blog/Official_Statement.pdf


Also blocknet's assets and funds will be held in escrow and released as development progress's.  Blocknet is not a scam, but a legitimate project and proof of concept code will be available shortly.


Sincerely,

Dan Metcalf


It wasn't public knowledge though. At all. It was only known by a select few in some inner circle of altcoin manipulation.

He did a code review for Halcyon under the pretense that he was an unbiased third party. You don't see the problem with that?


I was an unbiased 3rd party, I didn't write HAL, didn't write cloak [called it a scam] http://pastebin.com/TvJkKiCJ, I'm not some mastermind behind all of these coins as alluded to by several people, instead I'm XC's developer and this all started with SDC [https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6d] - Mr Boh is just an upset SDC investor with an axe to grind and now has created this giant conspriancy theory that I am some evil mastermind behind this cartel of coins... nothing could be further from the truth



Now that everything is out in the open it's up to people to make their own judgments of whether your associations are ethical.

I don't think anyone thinks you're the mastermind behind some cartel of coins. I think Prometheus might be, but not you.

People can debate semantics of whether you're involved in a "pump group" or whatever, it doesn't really matter. There is however a trail of destruction left in your path as evidenced by the charts of all these Prometheus coins that you've done reviews for. Responsibility doesn't fall on you alone, but as long as people know the reality of the situation there's really not much more to talk about. This altcoin community takes people who don't know any better and bleeds them dry. This isn't the first time and it won't be the last. People have to learn to research what they're getting themselves in to. And there's only so much you can do, most people here clearly don't care. But at least the truth is out now.
hero member
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Really text proof? Did you just not go on a long winded explanation of how all that can be faked yet you claim it as proof.


ah no but this is some clear proof here

https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6d

about why this all started, and yeah I have the skype screenshots to back it up too!


I'm very disappointed with what I am reading there. At what point were you planning to tell that to all the XC investors? Just spring it on us with an announcement?  Undecided


Absolute not, it would have been done by a consensus vote of XC holders and only then if it was "approved" would it have happened
hero member
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3rd - I was never the dev of any other coin than XC and blocknet, - I was never the hal dev, I did NOT WRITE ANY of its code

If we assume being "the dev" means being someone who writes most of the code -

1) Are you "the dev" of XC?

2) Did any of the people who have contributed to XC codebase write any of HAL's code?
legendary
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Really text proof? Did you just not go on a long winded explanation of how all that can be faked yet you claim it as proof.


ah no but this is some clear proof here

https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6d

about why this all started, and yeah I have the skype screenshots to back it up too!


I'm very disappointed with what I am reading there. At what point were you planning to tell that to all the XC investors? Just spring it on us with an announcement?  Undecided
legendary
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That's not Halcyon.


Read and read , you are still missing the lines like - https://twitter.com/ATC_SECURE/status/510137631284678656

more and more to catch up

The truth is that Mr Boh has an axe to grind, because he didn't want to merge SDC with XC as discussed with its lead developer.


https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6d



2nd - This conspiracy has blown way out of control, I never was behind cloak, in fact I called it a scam from day#! [http://pastebin.com/TvJkKiCJ]

3rd - I was never the dev of any other coin than XC and blocknet, - I was never the hal dev, I did NOT WRITE ANY of its code

4th - I barely have enough time to manage my full-time business and XC and my family - how could I Have possibly had the time to do any thing else?

5th - Any involvement with PROM was stated publicly when it happened, check twitter and the forum for the record - and thats it

6th - Blocknet funds are going to be escrowed - there IS NO SCAM INVOLVED NOR HAVE I EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY TYPE OF SCAM EVER!!


It is sickening that a few people with false pretense have taken something that was already public knowledge and twisted it.


I've spent over 1000 hours on XC, in order to bring some real value to this marketplace and bridge the gap into the business world with this technology, and the fact that a few paid troll's can cause this much havoc is complete insanity


Get your FACTS straight before making an assumption by a paid troll


Sincerely,


Dan Metcalf

legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
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Why did everyone(especially you) vehemently deny that the chat logs were genuine?

1) I denied the validity of the entire smear campaign.
2) More specifically, I denied the validity of numerous pastebins and whatnot due to their being modified.
3) I denied the truthfulness of 00Smurf's screenshots because of
   (a) their having been cut in such a way as to present Prometheus in a negative light
   (b) their having been presented in the context of a smear campaign that guaranteed they would be misinterpreted.

3b is the subtlest point yet. Texts have two layers: the physical marks on a screen and the meaning they convey. In 00Smurf's case, the physical marks were probably only altered by cutting out sections. However the interpretive layer - the meaning - of the text was heavily and deceitfully modified by the smear campaign that it is a part of.

Let me get this straight: you admit that the screenshots were not altered except being croped, but they must be fake because what is written there (the meaning) is unbelievable? Is that what your answer sums to? How much nonsense should we swallow before these responses become laughable?

No, you've not grasped the point I made.

Go and read it again.

If the ontology of texts is not a familiar field to you, you might need to think quite hard here.


I'll help you out with a simple example.

Let's say I create a newbie account and post in this thread.

My post simply reads "Scam!"

Now let's suppose I was actually talking about XYZcoin, but for whatever reason, I didn't mention that.

In this circumstance, the omission makes my post look like I'm talking about the Blocknet.


This is a case of the second layer - the interpretive layer - changing a text.
The same physical sentence becomes, in one context, a remark about XYZcoin, and in another context, the Blocknet.

Now apply this to 00Smurf's screenshots. The same thing is happening: releasing in the context of a smear campaign, their meaning changes.
They were leaked in this context in order to support the smear campaign.
Therefore they are deceitful and present manifest falsehoods.

Do you get me now? Do you understand why I called them "internet trash"? Because they are.
hero member
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The truth is that Mr Boh has an axe to grind, because he didn't want to merge SDC with XC as discussed with its lead developer.


https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6d



2nd - This conspiracy has blown way out of control, I never was behind cloak, in fact I called it a scam from day#! [http://pastebin.com/TvJkKiCJ]

3rd - I was never the dev of any other coin than XC and blocknet, - I was never the hal dev, I did NOT WRITE ANY of its code

4th - I barely have enough time to manage my full-time business and XC and my family - how could I Have possibly had the time to do any thing else?

5th - Any involvement with PROM was stated publicly when it happened, check twitter and the forum for the record - and thats it

6th - Blocknet funds are going to be escrowed - there IS NO SCAM INVOLVED NOR HAVE I EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY TYPE OF SCAM EVER!!


It is sickening that a few people with false pretense have taken something that was already public knowledge and twisted it.


I've spent over 1000 hours on XC, in order to bring some real value to this marketplace and bridge the gap into the business world with this technology, and the fact that a few paid troll's can cause this much havoc is complete insanity


Get your FACTS straight before making an assumption by a paid troll


Sincerely,


Dan Metcalf



+1


I think everybody needs to go back and read my statement again


So who's paying who for this FUD campaign..  https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6zbpubnmxw2j4x/dumb%20%282%29.tiff?dl=0
hero member
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I wanted to make a clear and concise statement about all of this mud slinging going around....

As everybody involved with XC's knows I did numerous freelance projects, some of which Prometheus was involved in, like KeyOS and Halc.  Yesterday I was so frustrated with everything that was ALREADY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE [stated on twitter and in the XC OP/ANN] being portrayed as some type of scam.. Accusing me of being Prometheus, accusing me of being the dev. of numerous coins and half the coins in blocknet...that I simply answered no to any and all questions.   None of these allegations are true, I am DAN METCALF and I have never used any other account than ATCSECURE on this forum.  Nor did I ever participate into any scam's, nor would I ever...  the comments about XC's POW being stopped because I was paid off is a complete fabrication.

What I find most interesting about this amount of FUD is that all the information was already public, and to think that I have all these alias's on this forum is complete insanity.

My full statement on the matter can be viewed at http://www.atcsecure.com/blog/Official_Statement.pdf


Also blocknet's assets and funds will be held in escrow and released as development progress's.  Blocknet is not a scam, but a legitimate project and proof of concept code will be available shortly.


Sincerely,

Dan Metcalf








Dan you have only yourself to blame for destroying your reputation, sorry.

You were well known and at some point respected... why use a seudonym? By definition, you know what that means: posting stuff that Dan Metcalf wouldn't. No two-ways about it.

Not to mention the fact that having already one handle instead of your well known name makes quite difficult to believr you dont have others, whether true or not.

The accusations are very specific. There's no avoiding it and it doesnt matter if they can be proven or not. Yhere's no burden of proof in crypto. Anf for ehst I have read, it's game, set and match for you.

How can you even pretend any credibiliyy after reviewing your own code in HAL? Not to mention the actions that followed thrre...

Bye bye Dan Metcalf. Think of another handle because as Dan Metcalf and "actsecure", you are done.

What actions exactly? I am not the hal dev, I"ve stated that numerous times. I'm also not the cloak dev, i'm not the aero dev, I'm not involved in any type of coin-cartel..
legendary
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Reading is the key to success


I wanted to make a clear and concise statement about all of this mud slinging going around....

As everybody involved with XC's knows I did numerous freelance projects, some of which Prometheus was involved in, like KeyOS and Halc.  Yesterday I was so frustrated with everything that was ALREADY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE [stated on twitter and in the XC OP/ANN] being portrayed as some type of scam.. Accusing me of being Prometheus, accusing me of being the dev. of numerous coins and half the coins in blocknet...that I simply answered no to any and all questions.   None of these allegations are true, I am DAN METCALF and I have never used any other account than ATCSECURE on this forum.  Nor did I ever participate into any scam's, nor would I ever...  the comments about XC's POW being stopped because I was paid off is a complete fabrication.

What I find most interesting about this amount of FUD is that all the information was already public, and to think that I have all these alias's on this forum is complete insanity.

My full statement on the matter can be viewed at http://www.atcsecure.com/blog/Official_Statement.pdf


Also blocknet's assets and funds will be held in escrow and released as development progress's.  Blocknet is not a scam, but a legitimate project and proof of concept code will be available shortly.


Sincerely,

Dan Metcalf


It wasn't public knowledge though. At all. It was only known by a select few in some inner circle of altcoin manipulation.

He did a code review for Halcyon under the pretense that he was an unbiased third party. You don't see the problem with that?


I was an unbiased 3rd party, I didn't write HAL, didn't write cloak [called it a scam] http://pastebin.com/TvJkKiCJ, I'm not some mastermind behind all of these coins as alluded to by several people, instead I'm XC's developer and this all started with SDC [https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6d] - Mr Boh is just an upset SDC investor with an axe to grind and now has created this giant conspriancy theory that I am some evil mastermind behind this cartel of coins... nothing could be further from the truth


mr boh aka pookie, longshort and rollroyce killing it own coin. sdc is the next cloak, if one of them decided to leave we all will see bloodbath. a few of these people own almost 100% sdc.
legendary
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I wanted to make a clear and concise statement about all of this mud slinging going around....

As everybody involved with XC's knows I did numerous freelance projects, some of which Prometheus was involved in, like KeyOS and Halc.  Yesterday I was so frustrated with everything that was ALREADY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE [stated on twitter and in the XC OP/ANN] being portrayed as some type of scam.. Accusing me of being Prometheus, accusing me of being the dev. of numerous coins and half the coins in blocknet...that I simply answered no to any and all questions.   None of these allegations are true, I am DAN METCALF and I have never used any other account than ATCSECURE on this forum.  Nor did I ever participate into any scam's, nor would I ever...  the comments about XC's POW being stopped because I was paid off is a complete fabrication.

What I find most interesting about this amount of FUD is that all the information was already public, and to think that I have all these alias's on this forum is complete insanity.

My full statement on the matter can be viewed at http://www.atcsecure.com/blog/Official_Statement.pdf


Also blocknet's assets and funds will be held in escrow and released as development progress's.  Blocknet is not a scam, but a legitimate project and proof of concept code will be available shortly.


Sincerely,

Dan Metcalf








Dan you have only yourself to blame for destroying your reputation, sorry.

You were well known and at some point respected... why use a seudonym? By definition, you know what that means: posting stuff that Dan Metcalf wouldn't. No two-ways about it.

Not to mention the fact that having already one handle instead of your well known name makes quite difficult to believe you dont have others, whether true or not.

The accusations are very specific. There's no avoiding it and it doesnt matter if they can be proven or not. There's no burden of proof in crypto. Anf for what I have read, it's game, set and match for you.

How can you even pretend any credibility after reviewing your own code in HAL? Not to mention the actions that followed thrre...

Bye bye Dan Metcalf. Think of another handle because as Dan Metcalf and "actsecure", you are done.
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