Topic: [ANN][Blocknet] truly decentralized exchange | token ecosystem infrastructure - page 327. (Read 1103293 times)

I don't really care who associates with who as long as the Tech is Legit and comes out in a timely manner.

Actually i saw some traders earned more tokens, they definitely don`t trade to lose their money

There is a vast difference between being a "pumper" (as Prometheus calls himself) and pumping in a manner that scams people and/or tricks people into investing into something worthless.

- No coin gets noticed unless it is pumped. It is an unfortunate but real feature of the crypto landscape. Therefore a pump is pretty much essential marketing for a coin. Therefore pumps aren't necessarily evil, and pumpers aren't necessary dumpers and/or scammers.

- Prometheus has continued to support financially the development of coins *after* they've been pumped. Look at Keycoin.

- As long as a coin has genuine tech, ongoing development, and transparent communication about its future, it's not a scam.  This appears to be the case with coins that Prometheus has funded, with the exception of Crypt, where the developer abandoned the project (which is unfortunate, but not within Prom's control).

- Prometheus's official statement on the smear campaign testifies how he exits without dumping. Only idiots or people with malicious intent dump on an illiquid market. You get a terrible price for your coins, and you create a panic that prevents you selling the rest of your coins at a decent price. So Prom's testimony is prima facie plausible.


My contention is that Prometheus is not a scammer. Neither is he a pumper and dumper. That is, he does not exploit the public by tricking them into buying a coin, and then abandon it.

This is my opinion. I may be mistaken. But it appears to me that Prometheus has been the victim of a prior smear campaign by the same people, and that the public in general has been duped by this prior campaign.

Sad is a try to take the project down before it even started

Competition is healthy but it is understandable some don`t want it

How was Dan being involved in Halcyon public information? Why would someone involved with the coin do a supposedly unbiased code review?

Why did everyone(especially you) vehemently deny that the chat logs were genuine?

Aero, Key and Halcyon are three of the most infamous pump and dumps. Prometheus' MO is already well known. None of this being related to him is an issue really. But the fact that Dan is involved with this scene goes directly against the image of unbiased and "one of crypto's best" that XC has been trying to portray him as.

In the XC thread before it was closed not one person was saying "yeah, we all knew Dan was involved in Halcyon!". It was quite the opposite actually. If fact you deleted posts saying that.

If you're new strategy now is to go from complete dismissal and denial of the Prometheus connection to fully embracing it now  then that's fine with me. Probably should have done that from the start and just been clear. I mean, to be honest most people in this scene knew what XC was about for a long time. But your job is to shield the XC holders from the realities of the situation, and now you can't do that any more now that it's all been admitted publicly.

So for people holding XC and Blocknet as long as you're aware of what type of groups you're backing then it's up for you to decide how you want to deal with your own investments.

he's trolling...you can sell them if you want.

Where has the pump group denied Dan is a part? would be nice to have all the actual evidence in one place.

Also, if Prom is part of a pump group, how is he not a pump and dump scammer as stated by Syn?

This sort of thing is what the entire smear campaign hinges on.

Using rhetoric, they import the a priori supposition that Prom is a P&D scammer, and then use it to try to destroy Dan.

The screenshots 00Smurf leaked read both ways. They only look awful if you unconsciously accept the rhetoric about Prom.

(I'll reiterate that no-one's trying to make Prom out to be a paragon of virtue; he's just not a P&D scammer.)

I've got to say. This whole nonsense thing going on, is pretty fucking stupid. After going through the facts, the only thing that's been accused against Dan was him being apart of a pump group, which was denied by both the pump group and him. So exactly WHAT are the trolls FUDDING for? Bitcointalk is turning into the new Batman's Asylum.

This can also be taken 2 ways.

I mean if the blocknet team could "pull off" the ITO and make Blocknet a reality, Then they would make a lot of BTC, it doesn't necessarily imply scam, the only person who implies it as a scam is Mr Boh.

Nope. The truth about Dan's code reviews and collaborations was made public at every point on the XC thread. There was nothing to expose.

What they did is make it look like it was a dirty secret, when it wasn't.


What's happened is that Prometheus has been subject to smear campaigns in the past that make him out to be a P&D scammer.
Linking Dan to Prometheus therefore appears to wreck Dan's reputation.
But the truth is that Prometheus is no paragon of virtue, but he is not a pump-and-dump scammer either.
And Dan's link to coins Prometheus funds has not been a secret at any point.

So what's all the fuss about? Hearsay about Prom; true records of conversations that have nonetheless been cut to put Prom in as negative a light as they can; another coin doing its best to destroy the competition.

We have nothing to hide. Bring it all out. There is nothing to fear from the truth.

"Logs can be faked"
- Umm... did you not see my post above? An opponent to the Blocknet with access to the SDC troll channel just validated the prior pastebin that winteriscoming5 leaked.
- Prior to this I was explicit that winteriscoming5's pastebin is no more verifiable than any of the junk perpetrated by the people behind the smear campaign.

So they exposed the truth about Dan.

How does the fact that this information leak was premeditated take away from the fact that it's all now confirmed to be genuine?

They wanted to find an honest journalist who would be willing to write a truthful article which would expose the facts. Now they don't seem like a particularly honest bunch themselves but it seems they were part of this "inner circle" and knew what was behind XC and Blocknet. They knew exposing the truth would save people money, so I can't really fault them for that. These lines in particular are interesting:

9:52 AM <•MrBoh> coindada said the devs are all planing on making abusrd btc offf this
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9:54 AM <•MrBoh> he seems worried its gonna backfire on him though
9:54 AM <•MrBoh> the way hes talking... saying "if we can pul it off"
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9:58 AM <•MrBoh> just think its fucked people gonan get burnt hard on blocknet

You drawing attention to the fact that people from Shadowcoin were behind this info leak just sounds like an attempt to divert attention away from the fact that all these things that you were refusing to acknowledge as genuine and dismissing as baseless "FUD" are true.

You seem like you're trying to imply that because they potentially have something to gain from the downfall of XC and Blocknet(they are a competing coin after all) that everything that's been confirmed to be true now by Dan and Prometheus themselves should be discarded. I don't follow that logic.

@Synechist

You appear to be responding to this drama with triumphant declarations that fail to actually support your argument in any way.

Your immediate reaction was to claim that "logs can be faked", yet you haven't provided any actual evidence that shows the logs were faked and, what is more, you allude to having logs of a couple of conversations that could 'vouch' for Prometheus, but you're not actually posting them.

Surely if you had actual evidence to either dismiss the allegations or, for that matter, support the credibility of those you are trying to defend, why simply continue to talk about it and not actually show it?

If selling happens only at the exact ITO price, you have to be the first sell order in the wall so the tokens bought will be yours. So if you want to sell in reasonable time, you have to set the price lower.

And also, tokens have been bought with lower price, so people selling lower than ITO might still be profiting. Especially if the tokens were bought with an illiquid altcoin on downtrend by someone holding huge amounts of them.

wow just bought BLOCK on polo under 0.0002BTC, WTF!?  

Why would anyone invest to sell it at lower price ? market trading and manipulation will occur of course as always to get more tokens

You will be able to follow the progress on each stage

BlockNet is long term advanced project - The Blocknet – an “internet of blockchains” – is a decentralised application platform built upon a revolution in
cryptographic technology

I think people need to start realizing that they are investing in something more than a coin

Well this is something.

An opponent of the Blocknet just validated the pastebin that winteriscoming5 posted above:

Check this out:





Here's the incriminating pastebin:






And here's a clone of it just in case someone deletes it: https://artikel-140.nl/bin/?d3c334bdb593cdec#CIjbr05jDkGDyFHk0YGl64PWwPU4bTAKaYY/Bjvgmio=

How is the price going to go up meanwhile if Blocknet is ready to be used in Q2 2015?

What means "The BlockNet team takes full responsibility for this occurance" ?