Topic: [ANN][Blocknet] truly decentralized exchange | token ecosystem infrastructure - page 350. (Read 1103311 times)

Does anybody has this error?

Status: conflicted, broadcast through 14 nodes
Date: 2014.11.01. 01:33
Source: Generated

Generated coins must mature 60 blocks before they can be spent. When you generated this block, it was broadcast to the network to be added to the block chain. If it fails to get into the chain, its state will change to "not accepted" and it won't be spendable. This may occasionally happen if another node generates a block within a few seconds of yours.

This is the third time that the staking gives this error message and not getting confirmed.
Is it the wallet or what?
Thx

Apologies.

If I recall correctly I deleted a conversation. Since it was also quoted in your post I deleted your post.

Hah.  He deleted my post too.  I was measured, reasoned and calm.  Said while there was no doubt that much of the allegations against Dan were bullshit that something smelled fishy and asked for a refund.

Deleted.

I guess I'll go post it on a non-moderated thread.

he has public stated that he stopped and this was a few weeks ago I believe

all this FUD storms just smoke and mirrors, like others smoke and mirrors in crypto land. what Dan did wrong is collecting BTC by reviewing other codes and saying good thing about it without knowing the coins going to be scam or not, though he's involving with many coins. he need to stop this practice and focus more with his own projects which are XC and now Blocknet. what i see in these crazy FUD storms is other coins or projects want to destroy this blocknet, ahem, the scam Supernet and shadowcoin/cash? again, blocknet itself is the best idea.

There has been an overwhelming avalanche of bs thrown at them in the last two days. Get off your high horse.

ok great 

*cough.. website ..cough :p

Thanks for keeping your head cool.

Keep the good work

Dan 

Thanks Andreas. That was very well presented.

In my opinion I've been doing the things you suggested (like *not* engaging with loudmouths on this thread, but instead keeping the thread free of conversation about unverifiable internet trash). You effectively expressed our plan.

You'll see the course we take over the next few days.

All the best,

Arlyn

Well, I asked for the same stuff in private. I think some type of clarity will be coming and I am waiting for it.

Why was my question deleted?  I fail to see how it is FUD?   This is the most crucial question that I feel needs to be answered by XC in light of conflicting statements that have been said by Dan and Prometheus.

Please do not delete this, I am asking sincerely.  If you read my post history I have been supporting XC through thus FUD.  But the points that I raised I strongly feel cannot go unanswered.
 
So I will ask it again:


Why, in light of everything prometheus has said, and admitted to saying, is XC / blocknet unwilling to give up its relationship with prometheus and his coin (utilitycoin)? 

It makes absolutely no logical sense and does not help your case at all.

Oh and i forgot to add one thing: saying "great post, you are totally right, something needs to happen." in this thread isn't going to solve anything, it's the actions that you take outside this confined space that will.


Kind regards
Andreas

Wow great post bytas you should be hired as a Project manager by this team to help synechist and the others

Great post, I would buy regardless. Not an amount you will lose your sleep over, in the case nothing ever happens at the end. I believe it will succeed.

Hat's off. Great post.

How about you guys stop wasting time on back and forth discussion with random people all over the altcoin board and instead set up a strategy to deal with this situation on a broader and more structural way?  

A good way to deal with this is to create an official press release on the issue, provide a full and undeniable explanation that is independently verifiable, and push it to the official website of blocknet, all coins involved AND as much big newsnetworks as you can get interested in running the story. See this as an opportunity to once and for all set the record straight and gain press time while you are at it.

I've said this once and i'm gonna say this again: In a decentralized environment, you prove your honesty and integrity by providing everyone with the tools and proof to make up their own mind and decide for themselves. Discussing the issue on a 1 to 1 basis with everyone who has any doubt is an terribly inefficient way to do things, and stating that you will not give the so called 'FUD' (which is a bogus term if you ask me) any credibility by refusing to interact with it is about the worst possible reaction to the problem I can think off.

Think about it this way: what you are trying here is to reassure people who are uncertain about the project and are expressing their doubts about the future of blocknet. You are also trying to convince the people that might be interested to invest but are afraid to do so in light of recent events.
How do you best convince the broad public to set aside those negative feelings? Not by answering the rage thread of every single user with a 50% explanation, also not by refusing to comment. You take the high ground, request the digital equivalent of a megaphone and hold a complete and explanatory speech to the masses. On the internet this means making a complete press release and spreading it trough every channel possible (coincourant, cointelegraph, coindesk, twitter, youtube,...).

Lets go back to the metaphor of a square filled with huge mob.
Right now you are standing in a corner, arguing with one or two disgruntled people who are legitimately concerned about your credibility. Around this small scene are about ten other people who are watching and are making up their minds about this ridiculous scene without getting involved themselves. The more you try to explain yourself to those two disgruntled people, the more those bystanders are thinking this is a ridiculous scene, and the more they are beginning to distance themselves from the situation, telling others who have never heard about it how idiotic it is. While you are addressing those two hotheads, slowly the entire square starts to hear wispers and rumours about "that one dude in the corner that allegedly did something bad". And weather you like it or not, gossip doesn't give a rats ass about truth, it just wants to be sensational.

Now you can do two things: either stay in that corner, arguing with those hotheads until one of them loses their temper and gives you a hit in the face, or you can break free from that unproductive situation, run over to the highest point of the square, grab a megaphone and start broadcasting the facts about the situation as loud as you can. Presenting irrefutable evidence that proves your point, as well as talking about what the steps forward are, how you are gonna make your stuff even more awesome and what you will do to avoid confusion in the future.  

This is what happens in that scenario. The two readheads will keep shouting and screaming, but frankly you don't have to give a fuck because the 10 people that stood behind them are now paying attention and listening to you, making up their minds about the situation from the presented facts. The further the story develops, the more people on the square will start to flock to this interesting new thing that is happening. People that may never have heard about this might start to pay attention, and frankly you don't care anymore about the two angry dudes that have now ran off, because you have an audience that cares enough to listen.

At the end of the day: you lost 2 guys, gave 10 others enough information to make a decision and introduced everyone else on the square to your project. Mass psychology.

Get out there, stop arguing and prove everything you are saying in here in one press release that doesn't require a reader to have any prior knowledge of the situation to come to a verdict.



And frankly: If you are afraid to do this, if you think it has a chance to backfire, if you think it "doesn't currently fit in our media strategy" or something likewise: you are heading in the wrong direction with your project and the two guys that cornered you on the square were 100% right to corner you and start complaining.

Some facts:
- If you can't inspire trust, your decentralized project is going nowhere.
- Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt are legit feelings an investor can express. FUD is a bogus term that is used by people unable to adress concerns
- Decentralized due diligence, active open accounting, Regular newsupdates and transparency are the only way forward in the crypto world
- The only thing the few people that have doubts in your project can do is NOT USE IT. The only thing 7 billion other people on the planet can decide to do is to USE IT, but only after they KNOW IT EXIST.
- Don't fail to understand that you are not trying to convince everyone to use your project, you are trying to find the people that WANT to use it. Watch this video to understand what i mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw28y81s7Wo


Oh and just on a completely honest personal note: I believe in the project, i also had the intention to invest a bit in it, but i waited to do so because an investor always wants to have as much info as possible before investing, so it's wise to buy as late as possible.
At the moment my advice to oneself is to NOT invest, and this is completely legit for me to decide that, just as it is completely legit for everyone else to decide that.
It's up to you guys to convince me to rethink and join in anyway, and if you can't do that, it's up to you guys to completely and utterly ignore me, forget that i even exist and find the people on the internet that ARE willing to invest and join the adventure/cause. If you guys manage to get this situation on track again i'll happily put my money where my mouth is and join in as well.

At the moment you guys are doing a rather poor job on some of the key components of making this happen:
1. Reaching out to a broader audience: nope, no website, no media strategy, no marketing.
2. Setting the record straight with irrefutable facts: they might be in here somewhere, but i don't plan on reading 100+ pages
3. Ignoring the hotheads and talking to the community: please i don't even know who gains from those discussions.


/ Devils advocate.

Brutaly honnest again because it needs to happen. Brutaly honnest again not because i want to see this project fail but because i want to see it succeed. Brutally honnest again because that is what works in a decentralized community and because top down control and obscurity is exactly what we don't need right now.

Kind regards
Hoping to invest soon
Bytas

You will soon have ample opportunity at attractive prices, this seems clear.

At least the mod gave us ample warning that a shit storm was brewing and it has happened.  I'd say the best way to proceed is by continuing as if nothing happened because there is nothing definite out there.  I would still like to know the total amount of BTC worth sold of BlockNET.  I would like to invest more but want to see where we stand first.

You appear to have conflicting claims between Dan and Prometheus.

GO AND ASCERTAIN THE TRUTH ON A DIFFERENT THREAD.

Stop posting this stuff here until it is ready to see the light of day. How am I supposed to act on conflicting claims?


On my side I will make enquiries and participate on your newly created thread.