[ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network - page 173.

EmilioMann

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Quote from: FUTURECRYPTO on March 22, 2017, 12:56:20 PM

Hi,

I am new to Decred. I think its a good project with great team and vision. I want to do PoS with my Dcr. I am a newbie. Stakepool would be ideal for me because I can't be online all the time. Do you recommend me to join stakepool here https://evolution.dcrstats.com or using paymetheus wallet as you described? What's the difference between the two?

Anyone doing the Pos in stakepool can please through some numbers? like if you had 1000 DCR in stakepool, what would be the payouts like daily or monthly? Appx numbers are fine. Thank you.

While in the official pools you don't have risk of lose your coins, in evolution this security doesn't exist because you need to send your coins to him.
Evolution isn't an official service from decred devs, it is an third party service created by the owner of dcrstats pool.

POS mining is yielding about 3-5% per month

EmilioMann

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Quote from: jwinterm on March 22, 2017, 12:33:03 PM

Quote from: EmilioMann on March 22, 2017, 09:17:32 AM

Quote from: AusKipper on March 22, 2017, 12:55:05 AM

...

So Decred is getting the best of the current bitcoin chain options when/if successfully implemented, though still not quite as good as Monero style ring signatures right?

I assume trustless is better than trusted, but I dont really understand it all that well, I just need someone to say if its the best Tongue

An anonymous system that isn't trustless and decentralized the dev can create coins and no one knows or keep logs of the transactions and sell them to NSA.

I'm not a fan of zcash or zcoin, but this is just misinformation. Yes, the zcash trusted setup could allow the creation of coins that no one could detect on the blockchain (zcoin coin creation was due to an implementation bug, unrelated to this), but as far as anyone knows, the anonymity provided by zcash is trustless - there's no way anyone could "keep logs" of the txs.

I didn't refer to zcash.
I was talking about what "trustless" means on crypto currencies.

FUTURECRYPTO

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Maybe you are using an outdated wallet.
Try with the last one that is 0.8.2 and can be downloaded at www.decred.org
If you use windows, the last version of the gui wallet paymetheus is excellent.
Very easy to POS mine with it. There's a tutorial with pics on brasil stake pool https://stake.decredbrasil.com
If this doesn't help, it is better to enter on slack, #support channel and talk with a dev.
[/quote]

Hi,

I am new to Decred. I think its a good project with great team and vision. I want to do PoS with my Dcr. I am a newbie. Stakepool would be ideal for me because I can't be online all the time. Do you recommend me to join stakepool here https://evolution.dcrstats.com or using paymetheus wallet as you described? What's the difference between the two?

Anyone doing the Pos in stakepool can please through some numbers? like if you had 1000 DCR in stakepool, what would be the payouts like daily or monthly? Appx numbers are fine. Thank you.

jwinterm

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Quote from: EmilioMann on March 22, 2017, 09:17:32 AM

Quote from: AusKipper on March 22, 2017, 12:55:05 AM

...

So Decred is getting the best of the current bitcoin chain options when/if successfully implemented, though still not quite as good as Monero style ring signatures right?

I assume trustless is better than trusted, but I dont really understand it all that well, I just need someone to say if its the best Tongue

An anonymous system that isn't trustless and decentralized the dev can create coins and no one knows or keep logs of the transactions and sell them to NSA.

I'm not a fan of zcash or zcoin, but this is just misinformation. Yes, the zcash trusted setup could allow the creation of coins that no one could detect on the blockchain (zcoin coin creation was due to an implementation bug, unrelated to this), but as far as anyone knows, the anonymity provided by zcash is trustless - there's no way anyone could "keep logs" of the txs.

EmilioMann

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#mitandopelomundo

Quote from: AusKipper on March 22, 2017, 12:55:05 AM

...

So Decred is getting the best of the current bitcoin chain options when/if successfully implemented, though still not quite as good as Monero style ring signatures right?

I assume trustless is better than trusted, but I dont really understand it all that well, I just need someone to say if its the best Tongue

An anonymous system that isn't trustless and decentralized the dev can create coins and no one knows or keep logs of the transactions and sell them to NSA.

EmilioMann

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#mitandopelomundo

Quote from: Penttikuisma on March 22, 2017, 06:50:02 AM

Quote from: skunk on March 22, 2017, 05:59:52 AM

hello!

i had my dcr wallet offline for a long while because i've lost connection to the host where it's installed.
once the host went online again, i've restarted the wallet and saw how all my live tickets went missed, amen...
i didn't re-enable staking, however after about two months from restart i notice most of my budget is still locked:

...

why?
when can i expect my dcr to get unlocked?

thank you

If "rebroadcastmissed" won't help, recreate your wallet from seed. Be sure, that daemon is fully synced before recreate.

Add: I'm not sure is there also 256 block delay, starting from that point where you reconnected your wallet and tickets hit missed. If so, your funds are usable after that (around 24 hours)

Maybe you are using an outdated wallet.
Try with the last one that is 0.8.2 and can be downloaded at www.decred.org
If you use windows, the last version of the gui wallet paymetheus is excellent.
Very easy to POS mine with it. There's a tutorial with pics on brasil stake pool https://stake.decredbrasil.com
If this doesn't help, it is better to enter on slack, #support channel and talk with a dev.

Penttikuisma

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Quote from: skunk on March 22, 2017, 05:59:52 AM

hello!

i had my dcr wallet offline for a long while because i've lost connection to the host where it's installed.
once the host went online again, i've restarted the wallet and saw how all my live tickets went missed, amen...
i didn't re-enable staking, however after about two months from restart i notice most of my budget is still locked:

Code:

$ ./dcrctl --wallet getstakeinfo
{
  "blockheight": 117763,
  "poolsize": 40866,
  "difficulty": 99.33280417,
  "allmempooltix": 0,
  "ownmempooltix": 0,
  "immature": 0,
  "live": 0,
  "proportionlive": 0,
  "voted": 285,
  "totalsubsidy": 498.5092128,
  "missed": 56,
  "proportionmissed": 0.16422287390029325,
  "revoked": 13,
  "expired": 0
}

$ ./dcrctl --wallet getstakeinfo
{
  "blockheight": 117763,
  "poolsize": 40866,
  "difficulty": 99.33280417,
  "allmempooltix": 0,
  "ownmempooltix": 0,
  "immature": 0,
  "live": 0,
  "proportionlive": 0,
  "voted": 285,
  "totalsubsidy": 498.5092128,
  "missed": 56,
  "proportionmissed": 0.16422287390029325,
  "revoked": 13,
  "expired": 0
}

$ ./dcrctl --wallet getbalance "*" 1 all
1445.22367482

$ ./dcrctl --wallet getbalance "*" 1 locked
1038.48773844

why?
when can i expect my dcr to get unlocked?

thank you

If "rebroadcastmissed" won't help, recreate your wallet from seed. Be sure, that daemon is fully synced before recreate.

Add: I'm not sure is there also 256 block delay, starting from that point where you reconnected your wallet and tickets hit missed. If so, your funds are usable after that (around 24 hours)

skunk

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hello!

i had my dcr wallet offline for a long while because i've lost connection to the host where it's installed.
once the host went online again, i've restarted the wallet and saw how all my live tickets went missed, amen...
i didn't re-enable staking, however after about two months from restart i notice most of my budget is still locked:

Code:

$ ./dcrctl --wallet getstakeinfo
{
"blockheight": 117763,
"poolsize": 40866,
"difficulty": 99.33280417,
"allmempooltix": 0,
"ownmempooltix": 0,
"immature": 0,
"live": 0,
"proportionlive": 0,
"voted": 285,
"totalsubsidy": 498.5092128,
"missed": 56,
"proportionmissed": 0.16422287390029325,
"revoked": 13,
"expired": 0
}

$ ./dcrctl --wallet getstakeinfo
{
"blockheight": 117763,
"poolsize": 40866,
"difficulty": 99.33280417,
"allmempooltix": 0,
"ownmempooltix": 0,
"immature": 0,
"live": 0,
"proportionlive": 0,
"voted": 285,
"totalsubsidy": 498.5092128,
"missed": 56,
"proportionmissed": 0.16422287390029325,
"revoked": 13,
"expired": 0
}

$ ./dcrctl --wallet getbalance "*" 1 all
1445.22367482

$ ./dcrctl --wallet getbalance "*" 1 locked
1038.48773844

why?
when can i expect my dcr to get unlocked?

thank you

AusKipper

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Quote from: jwinterm on March 21, 2017, 11:16:11 PM

Quote from: EmilioMann on March 21, 2017, 11:13:12 PM

Quote from: AusKipper on March 21, 2017, 07:37:11 PM

Quote from: dmitryshech on March 21, 2017, 09:23:03 AM

Quote from: AusKipper on March 21, 2017, 01:01:57 AM

I read somewhere that they where planning to implement some privacy features on this, does anyone know what type?

From my understanding they will be working on some new variation of zk-SNARK. You can find out here: https://blog.decred.org/2017/01/09/2017-Decred-Roadmap/

Thankyou.

Do you know this compares to Zerocoin?

*edit*

Ignore that, I did a little googling its a version of the same thing I think.

Zerocoin is a centralized anon system that needs trustworthy on dev.
Decred system will be decentralized and trustless

It's not, really, although it was broken and allowed the generation of like 300k coins, but at least they didn't roll back the chain. Zerocash is the one with the trusted setup. Zerocoin uses RSA factoring challenge number for it's setup.

So Decred is getting the best of the current bitcoin chain options when/if successfully implemented, though still not quite as good as Monero style ring signatures right?

I assume trustless is better than trusted, but I dont really understand it all that well, I just need someone to say if its the best Tongue

jwinterm

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Quote from: EmilioMann on March 21, 2017, 11:13:12 PM

Quote from: AusKipper on March 21, 2017, 07:37:11 PM

Quote from: dmitryshech on March 21, 2017, 09:23:03 AM

Quote from: AusKipper on March 21, 2017, 01:01:57 AM

I read somewhere that they where planning to implement some privacy features on this, does anyone know what type?

From my understanding they will be working on some new variation of zk-SNARK. You can find out here: https://blog.decred.org/2017/01/09/2017-Decred-Roadmap/

Thankyou.

Do you know this compares to Zerocoin?

*edit*

Ignore that, I did a little googling its a version of the same thing I think.

Zerocoin is a centralized anon system that needs trustworthy on dev.
Decred system will be decentralized and trustless

It's not, really, although it was broken and allowed the generation of like 300k coins, but at least they didn't roll back the chain. Zerocash is the one with the trusted setup. Zerocoin uses RSA factoring challenge number for it's setup.

EmilioMann

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#mitandopelomundo

Quote from: AusKipper on March 21, 2017, 07:37:11 PM

Quote from: dmitryshech on March 21, 2017, 09:23:03 AM

Quote from: AusKipper on March 21, 2017, 01:01:57 AM

I read somewhere that they where planning to implement some privacy features on this, does anyone know what type?

From my understanding they will be working on some new variation of zk-SNARK. You can find out here: https://blog.decred.org/2017/01/09/2017-Decred-Roadmap/

Thankyou.

Do you know this compares to Zerocoin?

*edit*

Ignore that, I did a little googling its a version of the same thing I think.

Zerocoin is a centralized anon system that needs trustworthy on dev.
Decred system will be decentralized and trustless

AusKipper

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Quote from: dmitryshech on March 21, 2017, 09:23:03 AM

Quote from: AusKipper on March 21, 2017, 01:01:57 AM

I read somewhere that they where planning to implement some privacy features on this, does anyone know what type?

From my understanding they will be working on some new variation of zk-SNARK. You can find out here: https://blog.decred.org/2017/01/09/2017-Decred-Roadmap/

Thankyou.

Do you know this compares to Zerocoin?

*edit*

Ignore that, I did a little googling its a version of the same thing I think.

gembitz

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*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*

Quote from: sevenrustlust on March 21, 2017, 12:20:25 PM

do you think this dump is due to manipulation to let weak hands leave?

^juilan jyap the bittrex wallet guy told me the bittrex db was haxxed by russian hackers so idk..hmmm :\

Riseman

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Quote from: sevenrustlust on March 21, 2017, 12:20:25 PM

do you think this dump is due to manipulation to let weak hands leave?

Manipulation, yes. But this time "weak hands" are probably the pumper's himself.

Lunari

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Might want to take a look at Decredition linux64 wallet link in OP, it shows 404.

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Bountie- Do You Have Game?

Quote from: sevenrustlust on March 21, 2017, 12:20:25 PM

do you think this dump is due to manipulation to let weak hands leave?

i think this dump not manipulation hands leave
but impact market btc pum
Wink

sevenrustlust

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do you think this dump is due to manipulation to let weak hands leave?

Lunari

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Quote from: Jack Liver on March 21, 2017, 10:38:11 AM

this is the inflation by year

Code:

Year Coin supply Inflation
  1 470426769731536 180.015934364
  2 725516828588937 54.2252429646
  3 940676990098927 29.6561227847
  4 1122157371491044 19.2925290299
  5 1275229809050507 13.6409064761
  6 1404340975270235 10.1245411065
  7 1513241532111717 7.75456664437
  8 1605095069693740 6.06998523586
  9 1682569994083979 4.82681218409
10 1747913757492611 3.88356880477
11 1803028628435353 3.15318022451
12 1849516235066977 2.578306628
13 1888726978324850 2.12005401815
14 1921799891692961 1.75106904003
15 1949695723833590 1.45154718039
16 1973224843465019 1.20680982903
17 1993070776474089 1.00576135937
18 2009810059460965 0.839873986637
19 2023928395353035 0.702471152715
20 2035836535103161 0.588367640746

Thank you very much!

Jack Liver

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this is the inflation by year

Code:

Year Coin supply Inflation
  1 470426769731536 180.015934364
  2 725516828588937 54.2252429646
  3 940676990098927 29.6561227847
  4 1122157371491044 19.2925290299
  5 1275229809050507 13.6409064761
  6 1404340975270235 10.1245411065
  7 1513241532111717 7.75456664437
  8 1605095069693740 6.06998523586
  9 1682569994083979 4.82681218409
10 1747913757492611 3.88356880477
11 1803028628435353 3.15318022451
12 1849516235066977 2.578306628
13 1888726978324850 2.12005401815
14 1921799891692961 1.75106904003
15 1949695723833590 1.45154718039
16 1973224843465019 1.20680982903
17 1993070776474089 1.00576135937
18 2009810059460965 0.839873986637
19 2023928395353035 0.702471152715
20 2035836535103161 0.588367640746

Lunari

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Hi folks, could someone point me to a graph or info about coin distribution with time? I couldnt find info in OP or in Decred web page (including the technical brief).

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