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Topic: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network - page 223. (Read 1201327 times)

legendary
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I don't know the Url but have a look on Facebook www.facebook.com/decredcash.

By the way, there is a guy that wants to buy 50Btc but doesn't know yet the floor... I suppose he is not the only one who wants to buy!

Now is a good time to buy. Waiting for a lower price could be missing a good chance, I don't think we'll ever see lower prices than now.
0.40 - 0.50 price range is lowest imo
newbie
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We could triple it today... I'll try to get an investor into digital currencies! And I suppose he knows a lot of people Wink I'll do my best


hahahaha BS
newbie
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Not many people know that this coin is made and developed by 'Bitcoin developers' a year ago.
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-developers-are-creating-a-new-digital-currency-called-decred/

They are pretty good in developing this goin, but marketing is not realy there thing, there for not many people have seen this coin through.
But thats alright in the meantime we will scoop up this undervalued coin called Decred.



sr. member
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One World
I don't know the Url but have a look on Facebook www.facebook.com/decredcash.

By the way, there is a guy that wants to buy 50Btc but doesn't know yet the floor... I suppose he is not the only one who wants to buy!

where did you found this guy that you are reffering?

We've seen it 3 times didn't we?
member
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sr. member
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I don't know the Url but have a look on Facebook www.facebook.com/decredcash.

By the way, there is a guy that wants to buy 50Btc but doesn't know yet the floor... I suppose he is not the only one who wants to buy!

where did you found this guy that you are reffering?
sr. member
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One World
I don't know the Url but have a look on Facebook www.facebook.com/decredcash.

By the way, there is a guy that wants to buy 50Btc but doesn't know yet the floor... I suppose he is not the only one who wants to buy!
legendary
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We could triple it today... I'll try to get an investor into digital currencies! And I suppose he knows a lot of people Wink I'll do my best

That's great, I also try to spread the word and educate people about it.
If each of helps spread the word, Decred can rise fast... we shouldn't just wait for the dev team or decry the lack of marketing...
The best things spread by word of mouth.
But without shilling. Shilling is disgusting... only informing others calmly and rationally about what you believe to be a good investment and most importantly, WHY you believe that (governance model, tech, devs...)
There was a very nice page explaining in simple English what is innovative about Decred, does anyone have it handy? That's a good resource to use to show new people, I can't find the URL now though.

sr. member
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One World
We could triple it today... I'll try to get an investor into digital currencies! And I suppose he knows a lot of people Wink I'll do my best
newbie
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Things are getting more interesting on the market...

https://i.imgur.com/A6GGgHG.png

 Cheesy

They certainly are... 10btc put us up 20%.  When this goes... good luck not market buying.


We will triple this coin in the coming months
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legendary
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Things are getting more interesting on the market...



 Cheesy

They certainly are... 10btc put us up 20%.  When this goes... good luck not market buying.
sr. member
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GBM
Where is the best place to follow the project? Forum or slack?
legendary
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Things are getting more interesting on the market...



 Cheesy
legendary
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The rules for starting a new voting period can be reduced to asking a couple straightforward questions:
Did all the PoW miners upgrade to the latest dcrd release?
Did 75% or more of the stakeholders voting in the last stake version interval upgrade to the latest dcrwallet release?
If these 2 conditions are satisfied, the stake version is incremented and the next voting period begins. There is a third condition, but it is more technical and messy to explain, so I'll gloss over it.

If you have any further questions about the release, feel free to ask.

Thanks for the update!  For those of us interested, can you explain the third condition?  Or point to a thread/blog where it's already explained?  Smiley

Sure thing, IncludeBeer.  This may be more technical than some readers want, but it's necessary to explain why and how this 3rd condition works.

Since Decred's hybrid PoW/PoS system scales the block reward received by a PoW miner based on the number of PoS miners whose votes are included in that block, i.e. a block authored by a PoW miner that includes 3 of the 5 votes only receives 3/5 of the usual subsidy for mining that block, we cannot apply the same kind of enforcement, rejection and activation logic as Bitcoin uses for the block version to the stake version.  If votes are rejected based on their version, e.g. full nodes start rejecting anything but v3 votes, it unfairly penalizes the PoW miner for that block due to a PoS miner not upgrading.  Not rejecting votes creates an enforcement problem: it is not possible to guarantee a monotonic march to activation by rejecting older versions.  Without rejecting older vote versions, it is possible to have the following scenario occur: during one stake version interval (SVI), the 75% threshold is crossed by a new version, then during the next SVI, that same version falls short of the 75% threshold.  The 3rd condition is

* Instead of determining the stake version only based on the votes in that interval, we also check what version the last SVI was.  If the previous SVI was some version, the current version must be that same version or greater.

By preventing the stake version from decreasing, we avoid other complex failure modes that could occur when the stake version goes from 3 to 2 or similar.

No worries, I work in development myself. This makes good sense imo.  It sounds like a trivial check to make, and as you pointed out, does a good job of mitigating the risks of all those complex failure modes that otherwise could occur. Great work devs! Cheesy
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The rules for starting a new voting period can be reduced to asking a couple straightforward questions:
Did all the PoW miners upgrade to the latest dcrd release?
Did 75% or more of the stakeholders voting in the last stake version interval upgrade to the latest dcrwallet release?
If these 2 conditions are satisfied, the stake version is incremented and the next voting period begins. There is a third condition, but it is more technical and messy to explain, so I'll gloss over it.

If you have any further questions about the release, feel free to ask.

Thanks for the update!  For those of us interested, can you explain the third condition?  Or point to a thread/blog where it's already explained?  Smiley

Sure thing, IncludeBeer.  This may be more technical than some readers want, but it's necessary to explain why and how this 3rd condition works.

Since Decred's hybrid PoW/PoS system scales the block reward received by a PoW miner based on the number of PoS miners whose votes are included in that block, i.e. a block authored by a PoW miner that includes 3 of the 5 votes only receives 3/5 of the usual subsidy for mining that block, we cannot apply the same kind of enforcement, rejection and activation logic as Bitcoin uses for the block version to the stake version.  If votes are rejected based on their version, e.g. full nodes start rejecting anything but v3 votes, it unfairly penalizes the PoW miner for that block due to a PoS miner not upgrading.  Not rejecting votes creates an enforcement problem: it is not possible to guarantee a monotonic march to activation by rejecting older versions.  Without rejecting older vote versions, it is possible to have the following scenario occur: during one stake version interval (SVI), the 75% threshold is crossed by a new version, then during the next SVI, that same version falls short of the 75% threshold.  The 3rd condition is

* Instead of determining the stake version only based on the votes in that interval, we also check what version the last SVI was.  If the previous SVI was some version, the current version must be that same version or greater.

By preventing the stake version from decreasing, we avoid other complex failure modes that could occur when the stake version goes from 3 to 2 or similar.
legendary
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From Decred Forums:

It was mentioned on slack/IRC that this DD was technical and didn't make the release tangible for the layperson. Here's a breakdown of the most important parts of this release.

Stake version soft fork

In order to enable hard fork voting, we implement a soft fork that makes use of the existing block version in block headers, vote version and the stake version in block headers. Those familiar with Bitcoin may be aware that soft forks are implemented via the block version in the block header, where the network begins enforcing and rejecting blocks of lower version at certain activation thresholds, e.g. if 75% of the blocks in a trailing window of 1000 blocks are version 3, blocks with version less than 3 are rejected by the network. This process is entirely controlled by the PoW miners, so in Bitcoin, this process depends only on the PoW miners and not the rest of the network. In Decred, we require a second version in the block header to enable hard fork voting, called the stake version, and this version being incremented corresponds to the start of voting on a new set of issues that are encoded in votebits that are part of each vote cast by stakeholders. Decred uses the existing Bitcoin method for incrementing the block version in its block headers, but to increment the stake version, the block version must already be incremented and 75% or more of the votes cast in a stake version interval must be of a particular version, e.g. version 3. The rules for starting a new voting period can be reduced to asking a couple straightforward questions:
Did all the PoW miners upgrade to the latest dcrd release?
Did 75% or more of the stakeholders voting in the last stake version interval upgrade to the latest dcrwallet release?
If these 2 conditions are satisfied, the stake version is incremented and the next voting period begins. There is a third condition, but it is more technical and messy to explain, so I'll gloss over it.


If you have any further questions about the release, feel free to ask.

Thanks for the update!  For those of us interested, can you explain the third condition?  Or point to a thread/blog where it's already explained?  Smiley
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legendary
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If I'm happily staking and buying tickets (manually) with 0.5 command Line wallet, is there a pressing need to update?

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