Topic: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | FUNDING THE FUTURE WITH THE FUTURE OF CURRENCY - page 326. (Read 1076409 times)
May 20, 2014, 08:30:06 AM
May 20, 2014, 06:54:20 AM
Any updates?
May 20, 2014, 05:57:34 AM
50 Satoshi maybe, but it will rebound as soon as the developers will start a good job. The only question is when
May 20, 2014, 03:00:31 AM
Updates?
May 20, 2014, 01:14:34 AM
im gonna buy back into emc2 around 50 sats because unfortunately it probably will be there soon...
This thread lately just has bad vibes
This thread lately just has bad vibes
May 19, 2014, 04:44:30 PM
bob... you are a classic example of an irrational investor..
obviously you are entitled to speak your mind, but it seems like you don't even realize the negative the effect that your comments are having on your own investment.
whether you like to admit it or not, you are an insider and a large investor and that carries a significant amount of weight and responsibility within the community.
You may think that you are just trying to save the furniture but in the meantime you have set fire to the house.
if not for everyone else's sake then for the sake of your own investment please take your very public spat offline and direct it to those who need to hear it privately.
you aren't doing anyone any good by trying to force change through airing dirty laundry.
Your Sincerely...
Alphi, Some guy who invested in this coin.
obviously you are entitled to speak your mind, but it seems like you don't even realize the negative the effect that your comments are having on your own investment.
whether you like to admit it or not, you are an insider and a large investor and that carries a significant amount of weight and responsibility within the community.
You may think that you are just trying to save the furniture but in the meantime you have set fire to the house.
if not for everyone else's sake then for the sake of your own investment please take your very public spat offline and direct it to those who need to hear it privately.
you aren't doing anyone any good by trying to force change through airing dirty laundry.
Your Sincerely...
Alphi, Some guy who invested in this coin.
I can't agree more, very wise words,
mdtspain, another guy who invested in this coin.
Hold the fort!
How many times does one need to have the 'private' discussions before they qualify for public airing?
How many quiet questions of concern must be expressed by various individuals, regardless of coin holding size, before the matters of concern are addressed?
How many different people must be be verbally assaulted by the EMC2-can-do-no-wrong bandwagon before the bandwagon charts a new course?
The fact of the matter is, when things started to go in the wrong direction people quietly said:'ah, I don't think you should do that', the response was 'we got this don't worry'.
When things went further in the wrong direction, people spoke up about it, the common response was: "don't worry we're addressing that"
When things got ugly, the cheerleaders told us the 'low prices were good, we should view it as an opportunity to buy more, have faith, and believe in the vision',
and now that EMC2 is barely breathing you are asking for decorum and private hashing? Rubbish!
EMC2 has indicated on numerous occasions the notion of complete transparency. I contend that if there was full transparency before the crash, NOTHING said now by anyone would be a surprise or negatively effective.
It is highly probably that EMC2 will have traveled from 900 to 90 sat in just 5 weeks, why in the world do you want that swept under the rug?
How in the world do you not see that as mismanagement? If it went the other way around you would be justified in praising management, even though you knew in the back of your head it was a bubble.
Instead of leadership pulling the EMC2 reigns in a better direction they're asking for bigger blinders; what a shame.
Do you STILL think 100+ EMC2 is a good thing?
Do you want a higher value for EMC2?
Do you realize that it is more likely that EMC2 will hit 50 sat before 600 sat if nothing substantive is done?
May 19, 2014, 03:56:25 PM
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Does not update ..
Einsteinium-qt-1.1 loaded
Come to the IRC Channel for help #EinsteiniumFoundation. If you do not have a IRC Client use this link: https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.kiwiirc.com/?nick=Einstein|?#einsteiniumfoundation
May 19, 2014, 03:31:21 PM
May 19, 2014, 02:59:59 PM
bob... you are a classic example of an irrational investor..
obviously you are entitled to speak your mind, but it seems like you don't even realize the negative the effect that your comments are having on your own investment.
whether you like to admit it or not, you are an insider and a large investor and that carries a significant amount of weight and responsibility within the community.
You may think that you are just trying to save the furniture but in the meantime you have set fire to the house.
if not for everyone else's sake then for the sake of your own investment please take your very public spat offline and direct it to those who need to hear it privately.
you aren't doing anyone any good by trying to force change through airing dirty laundry.
Your Sincerely...
Alphi, Some guy who invested in this coin.
obviously you are entitled to speak your mind, but it seems like you don't even realize the negative the effect that your comments are having on your own investment.
whether you like to admit it or not, you are an insider and a large investor and that carries a significant amount of weight and responsibility within the community.
You may think that you are just trying to save the furniture but in the meantime you have set fire to the house.
if not for everyone else's sake then for the sake of your own investment please take your very public spat offline and direct it to those who need to hear it privately.
you aren't doing anyone any good by trying to force change through airing dirty laundry.
Your Sincerely...
Alphi, Some guy who invested in this coin.
I can't agree more, very wise words,
mdtspain, another guy who invested in this coin.
May 19, 2014, 02:26:26 PM
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May 19, 2014, 01:08:24 PM
if one side of that coin says "science" then the other says "ignorance".
because every coin has 2 sides you know.
the real coin doesn't have to have "science" written on it
but put into it's dev't, as it wows with such doge
because every coin has 2 sides you know.
the real coin doesn't have to have "science" written on it
but put into it's dev't, as it wows with such doge
I think you've been smoking too much
cant quite figure out if you are trying to be poetic or just asking people to switch to dogecoin.
May 19, 2014, 12:57:04 PM
LOL, sold them all? I wish that was the case. I have over 3.5M emc2 in my bag! If its so easy to update then site then why did Christine say a few days ago that the site was ready and just needed content?
? WTF? its been worked on for months and just now they realize content is needed.. What a joke.So next time you think I'm just trying to bring the coin down please think again. I'm trying to encourage change that will forever better the coin. The problem is you guys are all good with it staying the same...
Its fucking sad!!
Now its time to get ready, start my day and end up at the bell center tonight to watch my beloved Habs get their ass's kicked again. At lesst there's going to be beer!
bob... you are a classic example of an irrational investor..
obviously you are entitled to speak your mind, but it seems like you don't even realize the negative the effect that your comments are having on your own investment.
whether you like to admit it or not, you are an insider and a large investor and that carries a significant amount of weight and responsibility within the community.
You may think that you are just trying to save the furniture but in the meantime you have set fire to the house.
if not for everyone else's sake then for the sake of your own investment please take your very public spat offline and direct it to those who need to hear it privately.
you aren't doing anyone any good by trying to force change through airing dirty laundry.
Your Sincerely...
Alphi, Some guy who invested in this coin.
May 19, 2014, 10:50:46 AM
Bobsurplus, please leave gracefully. You have sold the majority of your stake in the coin, it's obvious you are now just bitter and want to bring the EMC2 coin reputation down with you.
The points you have raised for your leaving are MUTE. Updating a website is the easiest part of the project, the mistake was allowing the argumentative 21 YR OLD to join the team. Get rid of him.
The conversations you have revealed here should not be public and should ONLY be read by the core team.
You are being so unprofessional! No one can take you seriously when you finish a post saying you don't have time to write more and have to go get some beers... outrageous!
The points you have raised for your leaving are MUTE. Updating a website is the easiest part of the project, the mistake was allowing the argumentative 21 YR OLD to join the team. Get rid of him.
The conversations you have revealed here should not be public and should ONLY be read by the core team.
You are being so unprofessional! No one can take you seriously when you finish a post saying you don't have time to write more and have to go get some beers... outrageous!
LOL, sold them all? I wish that was the case. I have over 3.5M emc2 in my bag! If its so easy to update then site then why did Christine say a few days ago that the site was ready and just needed content?
? WTF? its been worked on for months and just now they realize content is needed.. What a joke.So next time you think I'm just trying to bring the coin down please think again. I'm trying to encourage change that will forever better the coin. The problem is you guys are all good with it staying the same...
Its fucking sad!!
Now its time to get ready, start my day and end up at the bell center tonight to watch my beloved Habs get their ass's kicked again. At lesst there's going to be beer!
May 19, 2014, 05:19:17 AM
Here I have lost my 5 BTC, from 900-300, EMC2 is one of the very few investment case I failed, I would take him as the example to remember the lesson, as a qualified investors, I overestimated the ability of the EMC2 team, they are not a group of good developers, That's it, I have to admit that I failed, you should know I do. 
May 19, 2014, 04:55:08 AM
Bobsurplus, please leave gracefully. You have sold the majority of your stake in the coin, it's obvious you are now just bitter and want to bring the EMC2 coin reputation down with you.
The points you have raised for your leaving are MUTE. Updating a website is the easiest part of the project, the mistake was allowing the argumentative 21 YR OLD to join the team. Get rid of him.
The conversations you have revealed here should not be public and should ONLY be read by the core team.
You are being so unprofessional! No one can take you seriously when you finish a post saying you don't have time to write more and have to go get some beers... outrageous!
The points you have raised for your leaving are MUTE. Updating a website is the easiest part of the project, the mistake was allowing the argumentative 21 YR OLD to join the team. Get rid of him.
The conversations you have revealed here should not be public and should ONLY be read by the core team.
You are being so unprofessional! No one can take you seriously when you finish a post saying you don't have time to write more and have to go get some beers... outrageous!
+1
As soon as the remained teams have sorted out all the issues and laid out new plan for the coin, we will be in strong position again.
May 19, 2014, 01:58:05 AM
May 19, 2014, 01:16:03 AM
Bobsurplus, please leave gracefully. You have sold the majority of your stake in the coin, it's obvious you are now just bitter and want to bring the EMC2 coin reputation down with you.
The points you have raised for your leaving are MUTE. Updating a website is the easiest part of the project, the mistake was allowing the argumentative 21 YR OLD to join the team. Get rid of him.
The conversations you have revealed here should not be public and should ONLY be read by the core team.
You are being so unprofessional! No one can take you seriously when you finish a post saying you don't have time to write more and have to go get some beers... outrageous!
The points you have raised for your leaving are MUTE. Updating a website is the easiest part of the project, the mistake was allowing the argumentative 21 YR OLD to join the team. Get rid of him.
The conversations you have revealed here should not be public and should ONLY be read by the core team.
You are being so unprofessional! No one can take you seriously when you finish a post saying you don't have time to write more and have to go get some beers... outrageous!
May 18, 2014, 12:38:45 AM
EMC2, like all CCs is fundamentally rooted on science, the evidence being: the satashi paper, the algorithm, and the block chain; furthermore, it is also supported by science, the evidence being: the miner's taxing scheme, the wormhole, and the actual donation to scientific advancement.
Although the science of literally creating money from nothing is open source and available to copy it isn't the science end of it that has the critical problems, it's the nonscience (nonsense) side of it with the overwhelming majority of problems, the side fraught with scams, wholesale theft, and hype.
As for EMC2, before launch faith and hope was essentially all there was, after launch the two gave way to actual performance, as the performance record compiled the CC's character formed creating for it a level of cryptocurrency community trust (based on track record). When performance dropped it wasn't because of any of the science, or even the standing plan, it was the arbitrary execution of the plan, the overmilking of the cash-cow, the cold shoulder given to miners seeking to improve, the lack of actual transparency, the failure of the magic memo to revitalize market value, and the last straw was the 'long-term focus' BS.
The problem was with the nonscience side of things -- the science proves that too.
Although the science of literally creating money from nothing is open source and available to copy it isn't the science end of it that has the critical problems, it's the nonscience (nonsense) side of it with the overwhelming majority of problems, the side fraught with scams, wholesale theft, and hype.
As for EMC2, before launch faith and hope was essentially all there was, after launch the two gave way to actual performance, as the performance record compiled the CC's character formed creating for it a level of cryptocurrency community trust (based on track record). When performance dropped it wasn't because of any of the science, or even the standing plan, it was the arbitrary execution of the plan, the overmilking of the cash-cow, the cold shoulder given to miners seeking to improve, the lack of actual transparency, the failure of the magic memo to revitalize market value, and the last straw was the 'long-term focus' BS.
The problem was with the nonscience side of things -- the science proves that too.
wow you really do live in a bubble don't you...
firstly:...the satoshi whitepaper is not a peer reviewed scientific document it is a theoretical white paper written by one or a group of interested parties. Theory may be the basis for scientific experimentation in some cases but theory itself is not science, its theory.
secondly: the crypto economy was not founded by OR developed by scientists, it was a grass roots movement built on ideology (beliefs) and economic theory and to some degree it is still very much influenced by ideology.
thirdly: the fact that a bunch of scientific wanna-be do gooders built their entire business funding model on this so called "science" and it is not working very well is clear evidence that it is not in fact a scientific experiment but nothing more than a social experiment.
forthly: just because something Funds scientific research does not make it fundamentally science based.. if that were the case then all governments in the world would be rooted in science (instead of just plain rooted) because they are the some of biggest organizations that fund scientific research.
fifthly: taxation is scientific evidence? that's news to me...
you may choose to believe that just because something has big words like wormholes and epochs which are used completely out of context that it has something to do with science but in reality it is nothing more than creative marketing and the colorful application of "science fiction".
you may be emotional and you may have some good points about what should be done to improve the situation but the mere fact that you are not able to step back and look at things objectively proves that you are not looking at it from a "scientific" perspective.
so please stop trying to make this an argument about Science vs so called "NonScience" because if it was then you wouldn't even be here making silly irrational comments. You would have simply accepted the results and then moved on to the next experiment.
Markets are all about confidence and human emotion they are all about putting a bunch of the most irrational people together and hoping that they can somehow divine the true value of something..
Science is about producing predictable, quantifiable and repeatable results. Crypto currency, on the other hand, is not.. its about making money and/or furthering an ideological agenda.
personally I like the idea of harnessing the power of irrational and greedy human beings for the sake of funding projects that further human development. that is why I still own some EMC2.. but I don't for one second pretend to myself that every coin I buy is based on a purely rational, logical and cold calculated formula...
May 18, 2014, 12:16:54 AM
The leadership structure is already in place, and the core dev never left the team. Some people came and went but a core group of us has been working on this, including the person who created the coin. We are not going to drop things just because one person quit publicly, and we are dedicated to continue working on this coin. There is a certain level of churn with organizations dependent on volunteers, a core group often sticks around, and others come and go. This has been the case for us as well. Let me be clear once again, Bob left, not the core team involved. Those actually dedicated to the foundation and the coin are still around working on this despite what anybody else says. If you want to help us, you are welcome too.
The other issue is that the new website is done, and we are at the stage we need to fill out content before we deploy it. The content is not our web developers responsibility at this point. Once the content is done, the page will be deployed.
I should note one thing, if it is not already obvious, there was a hostile relationship between Bob and the Web Dev. There personalities clashed on more then one occasion. In some ways the personality clash acted as an impediment to accomplishing tasks.
As we said before, we welcome volunteers, as long as they are clear what they can do for us, and will work with us in a professional manner. We don't mind people who just want to accomplish a single task for us either. Again, the core group of us is still working on this, just because a single person quit publicly taking out their issues publicly on the board, does not mean those of us who are actually dedicated to the organization left.
The other issue is that the new website is done, and we are at the stage we need to fill out content before we deploy it. The content is not our web developers responsibility at this point. Once the content is done, the page will be deployed.
I should note one thing, if it is not already obvious, there was a hostile relationship between Bob and the Web Dev. There personalities clashed on more then one occasion. In some ways the personality clash acted as an impediment to accomplishing tasks.
As we said before, we welcome volunteers, as long as they are clear what they can do for us, and will work with us in a professional manner. We don't mind people who just want to accomplish a single task for us either. Again, the core group of us is still working on this, just because a single person quit publicly taking out their issues publicly on the board, does not mean those of us who are actually dedicated to the organization left.
With all due respect Chritine, I think you have some of the facts backwards. Firstly and foremost the personality clash between Diox and myself did not impede any tasks from getting done. What impeded the tasks was DIOX's lack of work ethic and argumentative nature!!! He always keeps saying things like "a new site wont bring people in" and "get me traffic to the site and i'll get it looking good" How can I refer potential investors to our site if it looks like shit, I'll just be wasting a good lead!!! I offered to pay out of my own pocket to hire a full time webdev, but Diox, begged and pleaded to not have a new webdev join the team even though we would have had the site up and running properly 3 weeks ago. I did nothing but help the team, be it covering legal fees, incorporation fees, PAYING DIOX, working the social media, contacting exchanges and keeping the team focused and on track. I gave out over 1M emc2 to help giveaways and pay for services..
Really you're making me to be the bad guy and I don't think its just! Also, stop making it sound like I was not dedicated. I put in more time, money and effort then any other single person on the team, including yourself!
Thanks for throwing me under the bus!
Bob
EDIT: Maybe you should add the bounties to the bounty section in the OP, also an update there would work well too, the last update is about the wallet update.. That's over a 6 weeks old!
Also, what is the true number of coins to be mined, I read somewhere that the true number of coins will be around 700M. I can search for who said it and when but I think you'll already know who and when. Whats the deal with that?
I'm sure the nature of your arguments were valid, but at very least, the other guy didn't make it his mission to sink a ship while leaving.
You made your point clear a while ago, I think you're good to go now.
I never once said she insulted me, only that she threw me under the bus. Also, I think its fair to point out that the personality's between everyone on the team clashed with Diox and I have the skypes to prove it. Diox is an argumentative person, he's a kid. 22 YO and he thinks he knows it all. If this coin fails I blame DIOX and only DIOX. On a daily basis he would argue with everyone on the team at every chance he got. He kept throwing down everyones idea if it was not his own.
If you guys want a 22 YO big shot who cant work alone, and all he does is argue with the team members, running the team that's fine with me. But it will end up at zero with a bullet like Mr Wonderful says.
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