Topic: [ANN][MAX] MAXcoin - PoW, ASIC Resistance, Keccak GPU Mining - page 42. (Read 914218 times)

Yeah, Karl.  It's my belief that Maxcoin will be their long term plan considering Karl's confession of buying Maxcoin.  I see startcoin as the coin they will use and abuse for the future funding of Maxcoin projects (a coin that was not pre mined) and any other projects they see as beneficial to whatever cause they might have.

Is it not strange that the Maxcoin chatter has stopped and Luke has been essentially AWOL for a fortnight after a problem started occurring?  If you want to know Max and Karl's long term strategy then look not at what they are doing but look at what they are not doing.  It might not be ethical but it is legal to fool investors to part with their investment at a discount so you can hoover them up before you start releasing news that will impact the price.  Every negative thing that has happened with Maxcoin to date could be attributed to a plan to scare investors and let the price fall so the devs and friends can buy cheap.

Let's play this out logically, and let's assume I'm the collective consciousness of the Maxcoin team.  I have just fixed a massive issue with Maxcoin or I am about to release news that is going to drive up the demand for Maxcoin.  Should I release the news now?  Should I wait and make people nervous?  If I release the news right now what do I get?  I expect to be paid for my efforts don't I?  So why not take matters into my own hands and gobble up cheap max and make a few quid?  Waiting allows me to accumulate Maxcoin that is being dumped by nervous holders as they drive the price down.  Now I have removed supply just before I increase the demand!

The real fools are the ones who can't read between the lines and base their investment solely on what could be a huge distraction from the main show.  Take for example the entire financial world, everyone buys into the propaganda that everything is fine even though you can see we are screwed if you do a little bit of digging.  Everyone eats up the bull crap that politicians spout but if you ask anyone individually "do you trust a politician" and the average answer is "no way"!  Although as a collective we gobble it all up!

Karl Gray owns maxcoins, you would be a fool if you thought that Max Keiser also doesn't own maxcoins.  If he came right out and said so then the price would go up.  But if he publicaly ignores Maxcoin for long enough then he has a chance of getting more for 5k, 4k, 3k sats or less.

Will someone just explain why a huge whale like Karl Gray bought Maxcoin please?  Did he make a mistake?  Does anyone think that Max Keiser doesn't own Maxcoin?  And most importantly, who here believes the Maxcoin devs don't own bucket loads of Maxcoin?  If I had my own little economy I would fill all your heads with doubt just before I pump, you lose, I win!

Are you talking about. Karl Gray?

I'm asking myself the same thing but I can't figure out why they'd need to split their resources between 2 coins.  Is it because StartCoin is simply too niche?  I meant, it's really used just for StartJoin for raising funds.

So maybe. MaxCoin is their currency coin - to be used for other purposes.

Can you quote me one post by anybody at all who says Maxcoin is a Keiser created coin?

But is IS a keiser backed coin, it's had exposure on RT and any Maxcoin news is retweeted by keiser.  There are hundreds of cryptos that he doesn't give a toss about.  Only a select few are discussed on his show and tweeted about!

While you are at it would you mind explaining why one of the Startjoin creators said he was building a position in Maxcoin if it's not part of a longer term plan?

Just the premine itself, justify a big NO NO, whatever purpose it's supposed to cover. So, no thank you.

you mean the "better coin" that was never posted or talked about on all of Bitcointalk before ?

i recall hearing some shady shit about it but since it's such a pain in the ass to research and find out specs etc .. fuck it.

He is not going to pump 2 coins, he has nothing to do with the development Maxcoin.  

Some think Maxcoin can hitch a ride on Startcoins success. But I think Startcoin is just warming up, so why even bother with Maxcoin and its baggage.

And if you are considering investing in Maxcoin, do yourself a favor and read up on the shady past and poor reputation. Maybe one of the reasons Keiser has distanced himself from Maxcoin - other than the creation of Startjoin/Startcoin, of course.


His focus is on just one coin, Startcoin. For anyone to claim otherwise is delusional.




Fair enough, but Maxcoin will always be the red headed stepchild. It is just a shame folks are getting confused that Maxcoin is a Keiser created and backed coin - which is not.

Splitting Keiser community into two different camps is not ideal. Vlad2Vlad is correct, why support Maxcoin when Startcoin is clearly superior; no need to divide support.

Thank you for your opinion.  700% from what date precisely? I'm up thousands of % on my startcoin investment! When I say I'm all in on Maxcoin I mean that I'm not selling what I have accumulated! Not at these prices, nowhere near these prices!

Karl Gray and Max Keiser were two of the Startjoin founders and Karl clearly said he was investing in Maxcoin (a fan created cryptocurrency) on the Keiser Report on RT.  Seems more likely that it was a long term plan than a mistake on his part.  Just because a crypto was created by a fan doesn't mean it can't be embraced by the celebrity himself.  Just because it was created by a fanboy doesn't mean your hypothesis is true any more than mine.  If max did want to support an independent crypto then why not support the one with his name on it?

You can't come on here to a Maxcoin thread and declare it a "dead end" while it is still trading on exchanges, even if there are problems with wallets.  If you are right I'm sure you will be back here for your gratification but what if you are wrong? What if people sell their Maxcoin on your advice and only live to regret it?  You will be nowhere to be seen for the verbal arse kicking you will be entitled to!

On the basis of total market cap and the 4k/5k satoshi price per Maxcoin there is a low downside risk compared to the upside potential, especially considering the publicity Maxcoin can get on good price increases and good news.

Maxcoin will always be a fan created celebrity coin designed to cash in on a name. Keiser never has had anything to do with its development.

On the other hand, he IS CEO,co-founder of startjoin/startcoin.org and if you're banking on Keiser support, Startcoin is the obvious choice.



If you were all in on Startcoin you would be up around 700%.

Trying to convince people Maxcoin is anything other than a dead end is just wrong.

Indeed, I'm sure Karl Gray knows exactly what he is doing.  Is is quite strange that the devs have been so quiet about Maxcoin recently.  I'm sure something big is coming.  If I was a Maxcoin insider And something very big was coming I would certainly keep my mouth shut leading up to any news so I could soak as many up as I could at lower prices.  Doubt about any asset also leads to weak hands letting go of it easily and it's better to shake out weak hands at these low prices instead of having nervous Maxcoin holders dump the heap at a higher price and ruin any big returns for the rest of us who will not let go of them for a short term gain.

I also see Startcoin as a way of funding future Maxcoin projects.  For example, I will happily donate my interest payments every week to fund Maxcoin projects and if the price of startcoin rockets then I will be happy to throw even more fuel into the Maxcoin rocket.  If I was Keiser and Gray, I would have access to millions of startcoin, only a fraction of which can be used to fully fund Maxcoin projects to boost my main investment.  If that is the plan it's quite clever actually.  Free disposable money to boost my investment. Nice.

The Maxcoin/startcoin combo could be the killer crypto strategy.  It think both will do very well, but Maxcoin will take longer to get going so keep stacking while they are still this cheap. Don't believe FUD and remain confident that there is a plan for the future of Maxcoin.  Don't be a weak hand, believe in its future and be a strong hand and profit.

My Maxcoin is not going anywhere, they're staying in my possession and I will not be selling any until they are either worth a fortune or worth nothing. I'm all in on Maxcoin

it's to be expected all coins have been dropping pretty much.. especially bitcoin !
BTC just hit a new recent low at $347 usd at BTC-e.. lots of dumping !

Guys what with Max? Why again this fall in prices?

WOW still ? holy crap man !

I was gonna say move them over to Bittrex where i do my Max coin deals but..
They have been doing the same shit with Jackpotcoin over there for a while now *again.

Cryptsy is pretty bad for that type of bullshit !
ALWAYS has been !
I was given a bunch of FLAP coins like 20k or something like 3 months back i think roughly by a guy on chat via Cryptsy Trade Key.
And part of why he was giving them away i am pretty sure is because he said the wallet was down
and i ended up having to ask a LOT about it in chat and it took fro ever to get a response from a chat mod on there
even though they hang out there eaves dropping and lurking or chatting and playing stupid dodging helping people..
after a while they said they woudl look into it etc.. took about 2/3 weeks before they put the wallet online again.
and i have to say to them ..worry about fixing the coins you already have added before adding more assholes period .

People are stupid about their precious little Cryptsy butt kissing them.. Cryptsy couldn't care less if coins are disabled
they will say nothing anywhere and avoid acknowledging any problem
and even worse yet, they will leave the markets wide open for trading..
which means you can easily get stuck buying coins then have no way of getting them off there
OR..
Arb'ing coins and finding out after the fact they won't show up because they disabled the wallet etc (leaving trading open)
and again they pulled that shit with me on BlueCoin before too and then played dumb and dogged me about for ages
even though i kept asking and when i finally did get an answer they said there was a Fork and said shut up or your banned..
there was NO fucking fork BitJohn just made that up to shut me up and it happened during the coins height of popularity..
it was market manipulation i am certain 100% !
And why shouldn't people be warned about a Fork or frozen transfers ? why should that be a secret ?
Cryptsy has NO respect for their clients.. your all pawns in their games and bullshit.. trust me i know i regged there 2 months after they opened up.
I have seen a LOT of sleazy suspicious bullshit with them.

I took all my coins out of Cryptsy long ago an won't use them for anything ever again pretty much.
and those assholes banned me randomly for a year one day after i showed up and was having a nice chat with guys
they were all like hey we missed you you been gone for a week or so and conversation was all light and easy going then a msg came up..
Spoetnik has been banned for 1 year popped up randomly even though no mod had even spoken..
The cock sucker couldn't even grow the balls to speak to me first and was hiding with the finger on the ban button.
then after i was banned everyone there was saying wow wtf was that bullshit i didn't do anything and they started making up shit about me
bad mouthing me and accusing me of lying about them etc.. nooooooooooope
i never lied about anything ever and i have only ever called them out for their scammy bullshit stunts WHEN i seen them go down.
Be warned about that shit hole and their staff who make coins.. their corrupt faggots !

Anybody know how Max Keiser plans to pump 2 coins (Max and Start)?

I mean, why 2 coins?  It doesn't really make sense; why not focus your efforts on just 1 coin.

So what's his plan then?  Will he merge them into one or what do you guys think?

And don't say he doesn't have a plan.  He's a Wall Street banker and he's got huge backers like Karl Gray so there is some kind of plan.


Cheers!

max change to min ,,hihi

It's been 3 weeks now and I still can NOT withdraw any Max coins from Cryptsy.

I've never seen a coin down this long.  What gives?  And why isn't max coin price sky rocketing given miners haven't been able to sell (dump) anything on Cryptsy for nearly a month now?  That makes even less sense.

I don't buy that.

What about Karl Gray?  He was buying up MAX like crazy just a few months ago and said so on Keiser's show.  You expect me to believe a guy like that had no idea what he was doing just a few months ago?

Not sure what happened to StartCoin but I doubt people dumped their max since max is holding up pretty well.

Numbers says otherwise, StartCoin is a fail. The real Max Keiser user base is in Maxcoin.
Now that's pretty simple if you ask me (not a fanboy here, just the cold truth), 2 solutions are possible:

1. Keiser realise it and focus properly on MAX and StartJoin may have a chance to live.
2. Keiser doesn't, then he lose Maxcoin, StartCoin, StartJoin and his credibility in the cryptoworld.

His choice really.

Check out Keisers Twitter profile for your answer.

Most informed Keiser supporters dumped Maxcoin for Startcoin already.


Startcoin/Startjoin is Keisers baby. Maxcoin is Luke's abomination.

I don't get it, why then has start coin gone up 5 fold in 1 week while max coin has been dropping?  Sounds to me like start coin will be the real coin being used.  What am I missing?

Thx!

The developers did refer to Secp256r1 just before the launch, albeit rather obliquely. The main thing to note is that they are students at Bristol University. Professor Nigel Smart, who is a world leader in applied cryptography, is also there and has been helping them behind the scenes.

There is something odd as to the way the developers are perceived and as to the way Maxcoin has turned out so far. The timing of the rehashed 'backdoor' issue coincides with the funding of a Maxcoin project by StartCoin. Perhaps it is FUD to push down the price so people can buy in low. Max Keiser has said that the StartCoin funding should lead to an imminent boost to Maxcoin's Market Cap.