Topic: ♦♦♦♦♦♦[ANN]♦♦MTR♦♦MasterTraderCoin♦♦10.4m♦♦TOSHIDESK LLC♦♦ETNA Partnership♦♦♦♦♦♦ - page 56. (Read 229808 times)

Oh same here. My averages are looking better and better. I still know in my heart mastertrader is a boss and doesn't quit. Not looking like any fud slows him down.

I'm still buying at these prices. I think you are too.

The project is technically dead so, logically, no one would invest in it. At any price.

Now, if this guy eliminates the absurd stake premium, which is a scam, and burns the premine, there's a chance... now very hindered by the fact that on any rebound -and there would be a big rebound if such measures are taken soon-, all the losers holding this would quickly sell inundating the market and taken the price back down, albeit not as much as it is now. This guy has very unsmartly placed himself and his project in a situation which is almost a lose-lose one...

price is being smashed and in bittrex only 0.323  in buy orders... 

I think a burn and stake reduction would invigorate the volume

No, no, no... Is it for real?

You don't get it. Still. I still think Toshi Desk will not succeed at any level. No one will pay for it, simple as that. And no pay=no success. You are about to have yet another rude awakening in that regard.

But you are not, even though you pretend to be, open to ideas. You, like every loser in the world, are open to ideas you agree on. That's not being open to ideas, it's looking for an excuse in case your ideas -which other/s share- are failures. You want to use other/s as scapegoat if YOUR ideas, which they share, fail. You know only too well what a 120% effective rate of inflation will do to any coin and yet, you implemented it with the disastrous consequences that everyone knew it would have and you admit to knowing it. Everyone does: It is just a scam. Like any other coin project offering such rewards for staking, bar NONE. And yet you proceeded because you wanted the support of the "community" of losers that supported that totally idiotic idea. You can say "it was the community's decision" and you feel it's ok. Meanwhile the coin goes down the drain.  Same with the premine: You know it is worthless. Completely. And yet you keep on dreaming that it will serve ANY purpose in the future. It never will. You know you have to burn it or it will sink the entire project to the ground. Still you don't do it. Why? You make no sense. Those are just 2 ideas, but -again- contrary to your pretension, you are not looking for ideas, you are looking for scapegoats. And pretending that nothing is happening, that everything is OK in MTR-land. Well it is not. The project is effectively dead at this point for those very reasons... otherwise it would be hardly surviving like the rest of alts... at a higher level (or lower level of loss).

So, is that a clear demonstration that you are not, unlike your pretenses, looking for ideas. Talk about "constructive"... I just gave you, again, the 2 ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY actions that are a pre requisite IF (and will remain a big IF) this project is to survive. I know it. And you know it. Question is: Will you do it? I would be surprised if you do even though you can always claim "Barabbas told me to do it". But I guess that is not as acceptable as "the community wanted it", ah?

As for the rest, I just bought a few coins a couple days ago as part of a much wider strategy that happened to include MTR because of the volume, strictly. Less than 0.16 BTC of it, if you must know. Looking for a trade as quickly as possible, at least at 50% gain, otherwise it can go to hell, as you can imagine whatever the final result of that trade will not make me bat an eye, regardless ho big the gain or how small -cannot be big- the loss. As it stands, there's absolutely nothing positive about this project right now and your stubborness is beginning to look like quite a negative for it seems to be a manic attitude against the most basic common sense. It's in fact like if you would want to kill the project rather than attempt to save it.  Imagine a company whose stock trades in the stock market, minimal volume and unknown, would come with the idea of a giveaway of shares with no value whatsoever... do you think it would attract investors or losers? Imagine that that very company would do that after trying to get investors by giving them a 120% rate of return, do you think real investors would put a dime on it? Imagine further that that company would have a float of 10 million shares while retaining 90 million shares "for future development and acquisitions", do you think it would attract any investors at all?

I'm sure you see the parallels.

Hello,

Thanks for what appears to be your style of a heart to heart.

I will have to tell you I'm in no way panicking my friend.

This is me looking to engage more with my community to see what they would like to see done with the premine.

My ideas are my ideas...nothing more than that.

If you're looking to run off with my ideas as an inkling of panic, you are sadly mistaken.

I have the premine for a reason, and that is to use it to grow the community and foundation of MTR and ToshiDesk.

I'm not looking to pay bills with the premine...Don't be an idiot...It would be nice if I could...but that would truly kill the market.

All the bills have been paid by me!

My own pocket!

I hope you can understand that.

If I wasn't here paying the bills, and the premine was abused, and things were truly falling apart maybe there'd be reason for panic...but none of that is happening.

I'm looking for some creative ways to distribute the premine.

I'm asking the community for their insights on the ideas I proposed.

Branching off into other sectors of trolling isn't helping man.

MTR price is slightly declining due to 10% stake a month...Maybe staking % can be reduced to plug this small hole in the boat.

You seem not to like the ideas, because you feel it will kill the value of the coins you secretly hold.

That is 100% understandable.

I don't plan to let many other "beta" users have access to the ToshiDesk Platform.

I added the last 15 beta users today.

ToshiDesk will be a platform that cost $10 a month in MTR / BTC / Credit Card.

I thank you for noticing that this is truly my baby, and it shows me that you know I care about this and WONT give up.

I guess my respect level for you is sort of tarnished, because back in the day you were calling me an outright scammer....and that ToshiDesk would never exist.

Well looks like you were wrong about that...and now you have bought into MTR....I've turned your thoughts around by the looks of it.

I'm glad to have your support man...but please drop the condescending type of attitude you have.

Lets work together....

I obviously care about what the community thinks.

I obviously know I've helped people make money.

I obviously know I will have to continue to pour money into this project.

Lets not brush over things I obviously know please.

Building a real community is my main objective right now....

Can you give me some input on ways you think this is achievable?

By the sounds of it, you think using the premine in this sort of fashion is a bad idea.

So give me some good ones to ponder on.

No more trolling.

Lets get to business.

Cheers,

MasterTrader777



 

No one has to tell you what "would kill the market". You KNOW too well what will kel ANY market: More offer. Outrageous stake % WILL kill the market. A million coins giveaway WILL contribute to kill the market. Keeping the premine at your disposal HAS already killed the market. You know this regardless who tells you this or the opposite. You are NOT stupid. You know.

You also know that the idea you envision for Toshi Desk is ONLY possible if MTR rises in price and attracts real investors. That, regardless of your idea, is a VERY long shot. But IF it is to happen, MTR has to be successful first. I don't care if the price will go back to ATH -it will not- or not, but it has to reach a channel and stay there for months. As it is it is only going in one direction. Fast. And the main reason is that you are letting the will of a bunch of losers here dictate what you do. Remember the ones that used to post that 400k sat and 250k sat were acceptable minimum prices? THOSE. You paid heed to those idiots and now you are paying the price... starting to pay the price, for it isn't over by any means.

If there's ANY remote possibility of success here, it will be by YOUR own decisions. You are way more smart than 99.99% of the people of your "community". You WILL do much better following your common sense and even your impulses... unless you panic, which is what you are doing now. The funds to keep this going are not in the premine, never will. Either you pony up what you say you are not willing to do, or someone will have to. Like a real COMMUNITY. You have not achieved that, sorry. I highly doubt that you will ever achieve it seeing how low things have gone, but, once again, that is what you need. No more losers using Toshi Desk -unless they pay for it, of course-. And certainly you don't need more people getting MTR for free, for they will draw the price to the low hundreds in a real hurry. But you know only too well all of this. The lot of it. You are just panicking and going on a wing and a prayer hoping for a miracle. It maybe too late, I repeat, but there's no miracle possible. Only what you and a real community will be able to do.

And, by the way, doing what your "community" decides is neither true -you have the power of final decision, ultimately- nor anything else but avoiding responsibility for things that may -or likely will- go wrong. It IS your child, your project. Act like it is.

A giveaway would be good but only if executed properly and targeted to the right audience. What you need is to attract experienced traders with solid market insights to ToshiDesk,  not freeloaders seeking freebies to dump.

If you get more experienced traders on the platform, they will draw new users who seek their knowledge.

I'd simply urge you to take your time preparing the giveaway and use a format that includes the winners participating actively in ToshiDesk.  Perhaps the most tipped advisor or similar.  Don't merely base it on social media,  include a catch that serves the real long term purpose.

A giveaway can be a good tool to grow the user base but execution will be important.

I already have ToshiDesk charting module multi-lingual.

Getting HumHub - ToshiDesk Framework to be multi lingual shouldn't be too hard.

User A, B, and C would just have to specify their language of choice at login...

I don't think it would be an in platform switch option from the start.

Let me look more into this and let you know Mis069.

Thanks for the suggestion!

Cheers,

MasterTrader777

Bingo,

I'm here just spitting ideas back and forth.

I would like some real input on these.

Not just.... "those ideas suck, because it will kill the market".

Do I just do what I want, because no one seems to have credible input..or do I continue to reach out to the community for response on new ideas?

I will distribute the premine, there is no doubt about it.

I'm open to cutting down certain areas of distribution with % base increments.

Never would I deviate from any amounts set in stone.

So lets set them in stone.

I'm open to every idea someone proposes.

Lets get chatting community.

Cheers,

MasterTrader777

yes - input from others is not a bad thing ... even if some of the ideas are not part of the 'norm' ...

looking ( and moreover WORKING ) outside the box is a good way to not only test the waters - but also to change the status quo ...

how about a percentage based system? ...

a percentage for giveaways - a percentage for faucet - a percentage for new users to get them involved somehow - a percentage for toshidesk development ...

when these percentages are set - set them in stone ... do NOT deviate from the percentage limitations if they are agreed upon by you and the community ...

its ALL up for debate - and this is the best place to determine what is good and bad as far as community input is concerned ... constructive criticism and ideas are what can make this grow ... its called brainstorming - and even the smallest ideas to the silliest ideas are put down in a brainstorming session ... any corporate will tell you that ...

anyway - thats one of the ideas ive put forward to mt777 - amongst others ...

i have looking at many avenues for granite - and these avenues can include ANY coin with the right backing ...

ideas are the foundation ... they can be honed - changed - implemented - or even scrapped ... at least they are out and can be used for discussion ...

#crysx

Hello,

ToshiDesk is nothing without users.

I'm continuing the innovation behind ToshiDesk, but I still need new users to connect with it.

Right now the community is small...and the only way to grow the community is increase the amount of people trading, staking, and speaking about MTR in chat boxes/forums.

Yes the approach to some of these new ideas is outside of my normal box.

Most of these ideas I'm coming up with are with input from other outsiders looking in.

It looks like the 2 main fudders here, are only concerned about the coins they secretly hold and stake...and only want those to keep their value.

I personally want MTR to keep its value is well...but I'm not going to pour another 40-50 BTC into MTR to bring it back to the ATH.

I already poured more than this into MTR itself on the market and bills are continually being paid month after month.

I need more users, more traders, more interest in ToshiDesk and MTR...so yes I will be doing a giveaway...

The premine wasn't meant to hold forever over your heads guys...it was intended for much more than that.

How about you guys give me some of your ideas.

I don't have time for the fud, so that crap is being ignored.

Lets hear some of your ideas guys.

Cheers,

MasterTrader777

Stick to innovating ToshiDesk,  between the 90 day MTR doubling gunk and this new giveaway idea I only see value dropping,  which will deter the new investments you think you are drawing.

How many days till you start paying out those doubled investments and they get dumped onto the market now?

ToshiDesk offers some real services and a tangible platform,  these other moves don't seem to fit your usual strategy.

This is, by leaps and bundles far the best advice you will ever get here or anywhere. AND YOU KNOW IT. The "community", save for exceptions, of course, is a buncg of nutty individuals with no money whatsoever who like to amass big amounts of coins no matter how worthless. Furthermore, if your project is to work -at whatever level- any time in the future, it will be with the real (i.e.: CASH, real CASH) support of THE COMMUNITY, not the words of those unstable yahoos. THEY HAVE TO PAY for the development. Not any pre-mine at your disposal, but the community stage by stage of the project. As long as the premine exists, this is going to the low hundreds, simple as that. Understandably so, of course, because otherwise it would make you a very wealthy man and no one else, you understand, right?

The 1 mil promotion? meaningless. Don't waste your time. Same yahoos without a nickel to their name will post the shit in a social media than no one remotely rational and solid will follow. You have... wasted quite a bit of personal resources already. Any average smart person would realize by now what is NOT working but you don't seem too. Perseverance on bad ideas will only take you deeper down. PUSH your OWN ideas through if what you want is to experiment. You will get followers and detractors, sort the ones that count out and act in consequence. You you cannot afford any longer is to keep on listening to a "community" whose support has dragged your project down to the ground. Because unless you change the trajectory, the future is painfully evident.

If you don't learn your lessons -and act upon it- from failures and mistakes, you are prone to keep repeating them. You have for too long already. And the results are un questionable, aren't they?

Giving away coins for the holidays sounds like a great idea.

How difficult would it be to make Toshidesk multilingual? I'm thinking specifically Chinese investors. I know there are a lot of traders there into crypto, maybe they would be interested in Toshidesk.

So you propose a POS reduction?

I did one of these very early on and listened as it was something the community proposed.

Good suggestion.

I will leave the answer to whether or not we do something like this in the communities hands.

There are many reasons why distributing the premine is better than burning it.

MTR is intended to be a community coin paired with ToshiDesk.

Trading right now is at a very minimal state...why is that?

Is MTR dead? Obviously Not.

Are many people Staking and NOT trading? Yes

I need to empower more new users to join the community.

Giving away coins is way more effective than burning them and not improving the state in which the community sits.

Need more stakers, need more traders, need more interest.

Giving people coins for the holidays is such a great marketing idea, just let me work my magic.

I do appreciate you turning your tone around into a more civil manor, but please understand what a headache you have caused for the community, and I think they deserve an apology.

That's my 2 cents on that.

Cheers,

MasterTrader777

So you introduce more and more sell pressure... our bags are full of MTRs plus crazy 10% PoS... we don't need new MTRs anymore, we need our MTR to get a value, we need buyers.
If you want to do something reasonable, burn this calamitous premine and fork coin to lower PoS to something like 1% month (12% annually is still very high one). Stop ruining coin value with those terrible ideas. Thanks...

Thanks mate.

Alot of other things in the works.

I have been in talks with many community members in chat sessions over the past 4 weeks.

It's nice to stay connected with everyone and get an outside perspective of how things are going.

Many people say there isn't another project out there like MasterTraderCoin/ToshiDesk, that has "gone the distance" so to speak.

The biggest topic that appears to come up alot is...The premine.

It's got me thinking, and I have been brainstorming many ways to distribute this premine effectively.

I wish to use the premine for what it was intended for...and that providing a means to pay for Development, Overhead, Partnerships, Investment Options, Products and services along with building the MTR/ToshiDesk fan/user base.

First idea I'm working on....

1) Weekly Newsletter

- Sign up for weekly newsletters and be rewarded a set amount of MTR just for signing up!
- Read the newsletter and copy down the code and post it to me in bct message, bct thread post, twitter, toshidesk, toshitalk, etc and be rewarded a set amount of MTR...This will promote the community to read the newsletter and stay informed.

2) 1,000,0000 MTR Giveaway!

- Yes, in the coming weeks I will be hosting a 1,000,000 MTR Giveaway to attract new users...and to re-spark the flame for our long time supporters.

- How to partake in this Giveaway?

5 steps to earn your share of the 1,000,000 MTR Giveaway:

***Download the MTR wallet if you haven't already - and copy into a notepad - your MTR WALLET ADDRESS - You're gonna need it!***

***Sign up on the official forum - www.ToshiTalk.com and post your MTR wallet address in the 1,000,000 Giveaway thread when the giveaway goes live***

***Sign up on https://toshidesk.com/beta/index.php?r=user/auth/login - and post your wallet address in the welcome space***

***Post on social media - twitter - facebook - instagram -reddit -etc - " #1000000 #MTRGiveAway #YourMTRWalletAddress $MTR #ToshiDesk " ***

***Come back to MasterTraderCoin/ToshiDesk BitcoinTalk thread...post YOUR MTR ADDRESS, and let everyone know you have earned your share of the 1,000,000 MTR GiveAway!!!***

These are things I will be working on over the next few days.

DcGirl is still hard at work with the Level 2 API for the ToshiDesk charting module.

Long story short, she works long hours for Cryptsy and she has been running through all the regulations as they are continuing to pop up daily...Good thing here is as shes learning about all the regulations for Cryptsy...some of those could one day be passed down to ToshiDesk depending on how far we advance...put the point here is that its good having hard working and credible people working on your team. I give her the time she needs. Shes a lady...if any of you know - Rush a lady, and things get ugly. I respect the people I work with and that's why I keep people by my side through thick and thin.

Development for ToshiDesk is never going to stop, but I ask that you be patient with us as we iron out these last few puzzle pieces so we can go FULL PRESS & FULL LAUNCH.

Cheers,

MasterTrader777