Well, Like or hate BFL they are bringing Luke-Jr and Kanoi in, for a entire week.
What happened to sending Yochdog?
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What happened to sending Yochdog?
How come the change from yochdog to Luke-Jr as co-visitor?
Well, Like or hate BFL they are bringing Luke-Jr and Kanoi in, for a entire week.
Is it really a good idea to have both of them at the same place at the same time?
yeah man, nobody seems so notice, but we are developing here a "bonnie situation":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7yO4e9h5Mg
PS: pls excuse racism and violence, I'm not racist at all, I live in Europe in a country where black people are welcome, its a funny 90's movie and one of the best..
Well, Like or hate BFL they are bringing Luke-Jr and Kanoi in, for a entire week.
Is it really a good idea to have both of them at the same place at the same time?
No, of course this won't color his review! heh.
And this is somehow different from Avalon giving Jeff and the Foundation each a device? Jeff may have paid for his, but he still got the first one...out of 3(?) units so far.
The circumstances turned out to be Yifu importing it by hand and giving it to the Bitcoin Foundation in person. That is why there is a video out there with him and the Bitcoin Foundation members laughing it up with the device humming away in the background.
Anyway, if you really think about it, at this point Kano's visit has pretty much lost it's intended purpose. Which was to prove whether BFL was real or not. At this point they are about to ship....so what is the point in that again? It becomes a rather redundant effort and probably a waste of money.
Yeah, unfortunately I agree here. The point before was to see the process in action...not touring the facility as they supposedly pack the final units for shipping.
I don't see what is going to be achieved now by the visit.
jeff did get a 25BTC "donation" from avalon after he ordered.
Well, Like or hate BFL they are bringing Luke-Jr and Kanoi in, for a entire week.
Kanoi and Con provide support on IRC all the time, they answer any question (except CPU mining) very fast and provide excellent support.
I will use my BFL (if and when I get them) with confidence that it has full software developer support. It will support both major work protocols- you are free to pick either GBT or Stratum.
Without this support and a binary available, If I had a Avalon I would be shit out of luck if something went wrong.
Of course Kanoi should come home with product, he is supporting it.
I guess you can write your own code, since you are so eager to bash Kanoi?
It's not bashing as pointing out the obvious. Kanoi and Con provide support on IRC all the time, they answer any question (except CPU mining) very fast and provide excellent support.
I will use my BFL (if and when I get them) with confidence that it has full software developer support. It will support both major work protocols- you are free to pick either GBT or Stratum.
Without this support and a binary available, If I had a Avalon I would be shit out of luck if something went wrong.
Of course Kanoi should come home with product, he is supporting it.
I guess you can write your own code, since you are so eager to bash Kanoi?
He admitted it a while back that he thought he was entitled to free hardware. (Under the guise of providing support)
When I brought up the idea of a monthly re-payment plan for the hardware...guess what?
Well, Like or hate BFL they are bringing Luke-Jr and Kanoi in, for a entire week.
Wait, you kidding, both is same room? I noticed Kano carries a ninja sword lately...
No, of course this won't color his review! heh.
And this is somehow different from Avalon giving Jeff and the Foundation each a device? Jeff may have paid for his, but he still got the first one...out of 3(?) units so far.
The circumstances turned out to be Yifu importing it by hand and giving it to the Bitcoin Foundation in person. That is why there is a video out there with him and the Bitcoin Foundation members laughing it up with the device humming away in the background.
Anyway, if you really think about it, at this point Kano's visit has pretty much lost it's intended purpose. Which was to prove whether BFL was real or not. At this point they are about to ship....so what is the point in that again? It becomes a rather redundant effort and probably a waste of money.
Yeah, unfortunately I agree here. The point before was to see the process in action...not touring the facility as they supposedly pack the final units for shipping.
I don't see what is going to be achieved now by the visit.
jeff did get a 25BTC "donation" from avalon after he ordered.
Well, Like or hate BFL they are bringing Luke-Jr and Kanoi in, for a entire week.
Kanoi and Con provide support on IRC all the time, they answer any question (except CPU mining) very fast and provide excellent support.
I will use my BFL (if and when I get them) with confidence that it has full software developer support. It will support both major work protocols- you are free to pick either GBT or Stratum.
Without this support and a binary available, If I had a Avalon I would be shit out of luck if something went wrong.
Of course Kanoi should come home with product, he is supporting it.
I guess you can write your own code, since you are so eager to bash Kanoi?
Kanoi and Con provide support on IRC all the time, they answer any question (except CPU mining) very fast and provide excellent support.
I will use my BFL (if and when I get them) with confidence that it has full software developer support. It will support both major work protocols- you are free to pick either GBT or Stratum.
Without this support and a binary available, If I had a Avalon I would be shit out of luck if something went wrong.
Of course Kanoi should come home with product, he is supporting it.
I guess you can write your own code, since you are so eager to bash Kanoi?
No, of course this won't color his review! heh.
And this is somehow different from Avalon giving Jeff and the Foundation each a device? Jeff may have paid for his, but he still got the first one...out of 3(?) units so far.
The circumstances turned out to be Yifu importing it by hand and giving it to the Bitcoin Foundation in person. That is why there is a video out there with him and the Bitcoin Foundation members laughing it up with the device humming away in the background.
Anyway, if you really think about it, at this point Kano's visit has pretty much lost it's intended purpose. Which was to prove whether BFL was real or not. At this point they are about to ship....so what is the point in that again? It becomes a rather redundant effort and probably a waste of money.
Yeah, unfortunately I agree here. The point before was to see the process in action...not touring the facility as they supposedly pack the final units for shipping.
I don't see what is going to be achieved now by the visit.
No, of course this won't color his review! heh.
And this is somehow different from Avalon giving Jeff and the Foundation each a device? Jeff may have paid for his, but he still got the first one...out of 3(?) units so far.
Anyway, if you really think about it, at this point Kano's visit has pretty much lost it's intended purpose. Which was to prove whether BFL was real or not. At this point they are about to ship....so what is the point in that again? It becomes a rather redundant effort and probably a waste of money.
Yeah, unfortunately I agree here. The point before was to see the process in action...not touring the facility as they supposedly pack the final units for shipping.
FYI 
I've got my plane tickets to BFL - Kansas City today (email booked digital ticket details from the travel agent) arranged by Josh
So my flight to the USA, leaving Sydney on the 17th Feb (my time) - to be back here in Aus again on the 23rd.
... so I going from Oz (Aus) to Kansas (City) ... isn't that back to front?
I've got my plane tickets to BFL - Kansas City today (email booked digital ticket details from the travel agent) arranged by Josh
So my flight to the USA, leaving Sydney on the 17th Feb (my time) - to be back here in Aus again on the 23rd.
... so I going from Oz (Aus) to Kansas (City) ... isn't that back to front?
That's quite the trip! How many days do they have you touring the facilities? Anything specific on the agenda?
Agenda: To get their stories straight so when he reports back on the forums it is exactly how BFL wants him to report things lol.
You are so far off the mark and you've made a comment based on zero knowledge of the situation ... or is your statement simply to mean that you can easily be bought and just assume others are like you?
Here's most of the opening and closing of the recent PM I sent Josh to find out where they were at and then got the visit finally organised.
Quote
Feb-2
Hey Josh,
you got any update on where your guys are at?
I'm certainly not someone to promote your guys unsubstantiated claims coz
of your crap history (even with the ASIC), and you know full well I've never been
a fan of BFL, but the Avalon people are really pissing me off, Tom's gone down
the drain, and I would certainly be happy to be able to run a BFL ASIC on an rpi
and show it leaving Avalon's shit in the dust.
...
...
So ... when is anything happening at BFL?
P.S. if anything I've said on the forum lately has pissed your guys off - oh well,
damn shame
Hey Josh,
you got any update on where your guys are at?
I'm certainly not someone to promote your guys unsubstantiated claims coz
of your crap history (even with the ASIC), and you know full well I've never been
a fan of BFL, but the Avalon people are really pissing me off, Tom's gone down
the drain, and I would certainly be happy to be able to run a BFL ASIC on an rpi
and show it leaving Avalon's shit in the dust.
...
...
So ... when is anything happening at BFL?
P.S. if anything I've said on the forum lately has pissed your guys off - oh well,
damn shame
You do realize you have been critical of Avalon for a while now. (Beyond simply the source code not being provided.)
You complained (quite openly) that you weren't getting free [development] hardware from them.
The PM you posted on the top just goes to confirm what is kinda plainly obvious. You may not like BFL
For the matter of record, yes, Kano is getting free devices from BFL when he leaves the trip.
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No, of course this won't color his review! heh.
Anyway, if you really think about it, at this point Kano's visit has pretty much lost it's intended purpose. Which was to prove whether BFL was real or not. At this point they are about to ship....so what is the point in that again? It becomes a rather redundant effort and probably a waste of money.
Doesn't matter anyway, Kano's going to Kansas. He going to get a few BFL devices to Vaseline/lube the review in a positive direction and a few good shots of people working on benches to put together the machines. Perhaps some shots of the staff in a photo OP and finally when he gets back he will write a positive review of whatever it is he saw there.
I believe his review would have been useful in October 2012. Perhaps even November or December 2012.
That would have been interesting to see the state of things way back then. Not now that the party balloons have been put up and a "proper" implementation of the working business had come to life.
Anyway, that is my take on it. Expect the article soon.
who the F are you?
Somebody who has been around long enough to remember this gem:http://www.geekwire.com/2011/bitcoin-befuddles-customs-agents-thwarting-seattle-visit-digital-currency-guru/
Agenda: To get their stories straight so when he reports back on the forums it is exactly how BFL wants him to report things lol.
I knew I shouldn't have removed you from my iggy list.... no wonder that button is soo dark!!
So you have received a free (cattle class?) flight by a guy you never met in real life but know from the Internets.
You are a software developer who made significant contributions to Bitcoin, a crypto currency used by people who want to escape the fiat currency and who are interested in privacy and don't like the government monetary policies. Let's not forget money laundering and illegal gambling. Let's not mention Silk Road and controlled substances legislation (I guess sports people in .au must be big fans of SR)
The company who invites you (Butterfly Labs Inc. - Bitcoin Mining Hardware - ASIC Bitcoin Miner) to come over is paying for your flight and your hotel. Do you already know what hotel you are staying in, immigration will ask. The said company is release a spiffing new piece of crypto hardware they hope to export out of the USA. They want you to write various articles to promote the product by endorsing it's existence and perhaps add some more software support.
Surely this is not a vacation trip but something a bit harder to explain to immigration. I see plenty of red flags going up, starting with the fact they paid for your trip (and they know that before you get onto the plane), you work in the field they are active in and you'll probably travel with the tools of your trade like a laptop.
This from a jr member with 16 posts.....?
I do not use bitcoin to escape fiat currency, and I pay income tax on every btc I get from mining.
Most users here mine bitcoins cause it was kool. setting up gpus, tuning them, pushing them. general tinkering...
who the F are you?
BFL needs witnesses to confirm they are delaying again? I no comprehendo...
I've got my plane tickets to BFL - Kansas City today (email booked digital ticket details from the travel agent) arranged by Josh
So my flight to the USA, leaving Sydney on the 17th Feb (my time) - to be back here in Aus again on the 23rd.
So my flight to the USA, leaving Sydney on the 17th Feb (my time) - to be back here in Aus again on the 23rd.
Great, let's start posting more details like your real name and flight numbers so Echelon can pick it up.
So you have received a free (cattle class?) flight by a guy you never met in real life but know from the Internets.
You are a software developer who made significant contributions to Bitcoin, a crypto currency used by people who want to escape the fiat currency and who are interested in privacy and don't like the government monetary policies. Let's not forget money laundering and illegal gambling. Let's not mention Silk Road and controlled substances legislation (I guess sports people in .au must be big fans of SR)
The company who invites you (Butterfly Labs Inc. - Bitcoin Mining Hardware - ASIC Bitcoin Miner) to come over is paying for your flight and your hotel. Do you already know what hotel you are staying in, immigration will ask. The said company is release a spiffing new piece of crypto hardware they hope to export out of the USA. They want you to write various articles to promote the product by endorsing it's existence and perhaps add some more software support.
Surely this is not a vacation trip but something a bit harder to explain to immigration. I see plenty of red flags going up, starting with the fact they paid for your trip (and they know that before you get onto the plane), you work in the field they are active in and you'll probably travel with the tools of your trade like a laptop.
Don't you need an H-1B?
I got hassled so many times by US immigration it's no longer funny, a lot of times because some of the red flags stated above. (The only time I did not get any trouble was when I flew into Vegas and the only thing I muttered was 'gambling and hookers')
Don't be a jerk to the CBP officers.. "Yes Sir"... "No Sir"... etc
Have fun! ;-)
(feel free to add more search words to this thread to make it an interesting visit)
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