Topic: Announcement - ASIC mining processor by Butterfly Labs - page 20. (Read 227504 times)
FallING behind, they arent behind yet, so long as josh drives today
Well according to thier own schedual they are falling behind, a BFL guy (josh) should be driving in a motor vehicle right now as "the final chips roll out"
Quote from: BFL_Josh
I obviously haven't left for the fab yet, and Mondays call will determine when/if I leave. We have changed our bumping facility from the left coast to the right coast (North Carolina), so we may have the 6 wafers overnighted via courier to the bumping facility vs me picking them up and couriering them myself, although I will be meeting them at the bumping facility and making sure they don't sit around for a couple days while some guy eats and egg salad sandwich and wonders why there's a "priority!" box on his desk.
Of course his update post changes this if you read it.
Well according to thier own schedual they are falling behind, a BFL guy (josh) should be driving in a motor vehicle right now as "the final chips roll out"
Glad to see a cleaned up thread. Let's see how many pages we go before it falls into chaos again 
This week should be pretty big for BFL, assuming they're still sticking to their schedule. Hopefully we'll have a progress update soon as well.
This week should be pretty big for BFL, assuming they're still sticking to their schedule. Hopefully we'll have a progress update soon as well.
This is actually new-ish info, I think?
It's possible they're holding half their initial batch of wafers part-way through the wafer deposition process like ASICMINER did, in case they need to be revised. To be honest, I'd thought this was what Josh was hinting about a while ago regardign being able to revise their designs, so it's a surprise that he's so surprised by it.
Ahh, I figured they'd update the first comment, new information is staying there I suppose. It's possible they're holding half their initial batch of wafers part-way through the wafer deposition process like ASICMINER did, in case they need to be revised. To be honest, I'd thought this was what Josh was hinting about a while ago regardign being able to revise their designs, so it's a surprise that he's so surprised by it.
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From: Butterfly Labs Inc <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 06:59:07 -0600
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 06:59:07 -0600
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You must order your Jalapeno through our website. When you choose BTC you
will be directed to send the required number of BTC.
There are no ASIC machines completed yet as the chips have not arrived.
With the volume of orders we have already taken your order may not be
shipped until May.
If we used the machines ourselves instead of selling them, we would break
the BTC. To be viable, many people must choose to use BTC. We are a
hardware manufacturer.
Jody
will be directed to send the required number of BTC.
There are no ASIC machines completed yet as the chips have not arrived.
With the volume of orders we have already taken your order may not be
shipped until May.
If we used the machines ourselves instead of selling them, we would break
the BTC. To be viable, many people must choose to use BTC. We are a
hardware manufacturer.
Jody
until May...
what am I looking at here?
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From: Butterfly Labs Inc <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 06:59:07 -0600
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 06:59:07 -0600
Quote
You must order your Jalapeno through our website. When you choose BTC you
will be directed to send the required number of BTC.
There are no ASIC machines completed yet as the chips have not arrived.
With the volume of orders we have already taken your order may not be
shipped until May.
If we used the machines ourselves instead of selling them, we would break
the BTC. To be viable, many people must choose to use BTC. We are a
hardware manufacturer.
Jody
will be directed to send the required number of BTC.
There are no ASIC machines completed yet as the chips have not arrived.
With the volume of orders we have already taken your order may not be
shipped until May.
If we used the machines ourselves instead of selling them, we would break
the BTC. To be viable, many people must choose to use BTC. We are a
hardware manufacturer.
Jody
until May...
This is actually new-ish info, I think?
It's possible they're holding half their initial batch of wafers part-way through the wafer deposition process like ASICMINER did, in case they need to be revised. To be honest, I'd thought this was what Josh was hinting about a while ago regardign being able to revise their designs, so it's a surprise that he's so surprised by it.
Quote from: BFL_Josh
I wanted to have a bit more information for this update, but it looks like I will have to wait until tomorrow to talk to a couple people.
The most important thing I wanted to convey to people at this time was that we have changed our initial "batch" from 12 wafers to 6 wafers, or to be more specific, it's apparently always been 6 with the additional six scheduled for about 1.5 weeks after that. Due to the short time frame between the two, there was a miscommunication as to the actual number of wafers being delivered in the first round. I don't know that this will affect any sort of shipping, since the next set of wafers will be done about when we are ready to start assembly on the first set.
The 6 wafers is actually a good set point for the "first batch" shipping, so the 1/3 plan will be implemented for the first 6 wafers and the remaining wafers will then all be FIFO. The first 6 wafers should cut into the pre-order orderbook by a decent chunk, but it obviously won't satisfy them all. We aren't sure what our yield will be on the wafers, we are running on an 80% yield speculation, but it's likely our yield will be much, much higher than that. With our design, we can have a core in a chip disabled due to dust or what have you and just bump up the other 15 cores to compensate and/or use it for a Jalapeno, so our yield will likely be much closer to 100% than other ASIC projects with more complicated chips.
We should see the bulk of what remains of the 75k chip run about 2 weeks after that, so about the time we are done shipping the other 6 wafers worth we'll have the bulk of our chips arrive and we'll start assembling/shipping those.
The bumping situation is mostly wrapped up at this point, so there should be no problem there. I know there was some talk about the final mask with regards to the bumping and that it may push the date of the chip completion back a couple days, but it shouldn't impact the timeline to speak of as a couple days on either side of the 31st of January shouldn't really make much of difference, being as it's basically a weekend and is in transit anyway. I am hoping to have confirmation with regards to that tomorrow (Monday).
I obviously haven't left for the fab yet, and Mondays call will determine when/if I leave. We have changed our bumping facility from the left coast to the right coast (North Carolina), so we may have the 6 wafers overnighted via courier to the bumping facility vs me picking them up and couriering them myself, although I will be meeting them at the bumping facility and making sure they don't sit around for a couple days while some guy eats and egg salad sandwich and wonders why there's a "priority!" box on his desk.
The most important thing I wanted to convey to people at this time was that we have changed our initial "batch" from 12 wafers to 6 wafers, or to be more specific, it's apparently always been 6 with the additional six scheduled for about 1.5 weeks after that. Due to the short time frame between the two, there was a miscommunication as to the actual number of wafers being delivered in the first round. I don't know that this will affect any sort of shipping, since the next set of wafers will be done about when we are ready to start assembly on the first set.
The 6 wafers is actually a good set point for the "first batch" shipping, so the 1/3 plan will be implemented for the first 6 wafers and the remaining wafers will then all be FIFO. The first 6 wafers should cut into the pre-order orderbook by a decent chunk, but it obviously won't satisfy them all. We aren't sure what our yield will be on the wafers, we are running on an 80% yield speculation, but it's likely our yield will be much, much higher than that. With our design, we can have a core in a chip disabled due to dust or what have you and just bump up the other 15 cores to compensate and/or use it for a Jalapeno, so our yield will likely be much closer to 100% than other ASIC projects with more complicated chips.
We should see the bulk of what remains of the 75k chip run about 2 weeks after that, so about the time we are done shipping the other 6 wafers worth we'll have the bulk of our chips arrive and we'll start assembling/shipping those.
The bumping situation is mostly wrapped up at this point, so there should be no problem there. I know there was some talk about the final mask with regards to the bumping and that it may push the date of the chip completion back a couple days, but it shouldn't impact the timeline to speak of as a couple days on either side of the 31st of January shouldn't really make much of difference, being as it's basically a weekend and is in transit anyway. I am hoping to have confirmation with regards to that tomorrow (Monday).
I obviously haven't left for the fab yet, and Mondays call will determine when/if I leave. We have changed our bumping facility from the left coast to the right coast (North Carolina), so we may have the 6 wafers overnighted via courier to the bumping facility vs me picking them up and couriering them myself, although I will be meeting them at the bumping facility and making sure they don't sit around for a couple days while some guy eats and egg salad sandwich and wonders why there's a "priority!" box on his desk.
It's possible they're holding half their initial batch of wafers part-way through the wafer deposition process like ASICMINER did, in case they need to be revised. To be honest, I'd thought this was what Josh was hinting about a while ago regardign being able to revise their designs, so it's a surprise that he's so surprised by it.
Current info (updated weekly) is here:
---> BFL ASIC Status
---> BFL ASIC Status
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BFL ASIC Status (link provided by SLoK)
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html
Darn, I was hoping that was new info from BFL. Thanks for the cleanup though The prior history of this thread was split off after it devolved into more noise than signal.
BFL ASIC Status (link provided by SLoK)
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html
Finally a clean BFL Announcement thread, Hopefully BFLabs will post thier most recent info here on this thread, because the opening post is kind of old
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BFL ASIC Status (link provided by SLoK)
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html
The prior history of this thread was split off after it devolved into more noise than signal.
BFL ASIC Status (link provided by SLoK)
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html
December 2012 UPDATE
For up to date, accurate information, please visit our new forums:
https://forums.butterflylabs.com
We provide support and official information in our forums for all things related to BFL.
Original Post
We have officially announced our upcoming ASIC based SHA256 products today. Here's the press release with most of the relevant details:
http://news.yahoo.com/butterfly-labs-announces-next-generation-asic-lineup-054626776.html
Note: We're currently focused on the shipment of our Mini Rig product and won't be able to field questions for a few days but we'll be back with answers to any questions.
Kind regards,
BFL
For up to date, accurate information, please visit our new forums:
https://forums.butterflylabs.com
We provide support and official information in our forums for all things related to BFL.
Original Post
We have officially announced our upcoming ASIC based SHA256 products today. Here's the press release with most of the relevant details:
http://news.yahoo.com/butterfly-labs-announces-next-generation-asic-lineup-054626776.html
Note: We're currently focused on the shipment of our Mini Rig product and won't be able to field questions for a few days but we'll be back with answers to any questions.
Kind regards,
BFL
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