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Topic: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] - page 33. (Read 155335 times)

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We will stand and fight.
easy!
they are just eating our pre orders!  Grin

 Grin
Absolutely not. Yifu attend a meeting in Macau these days, about BTC environment and economy, no direct relation with Avalon project.

when he is having a big dinner on that table,  Avalon team is at Beijing, China, working hard and eating instant noodles.  Sad
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easy!
they are just eating our pre orders!  Grin
legendary
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I think the demonstration event has been mentioned at the first (around late Sep. ?). but please let Yifu to re-explain it later, he is at the meeting in Macau


Which one is you?
Better question:

Who is each individual at the table? What do they each do for Avalon?
legendary
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I think the demonstration event has been mentioned at the first (around late Sep. ?). but please let Yifu to re-explain it later, he is at the meeting in Macau


Which one is you?
full member
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Seriously NO ONE goes to Macau for a business meeting, other than the wrong sort of people.

legendary
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... Can you upgrade our clock buffer count so we can be more competitive?
And that must be in software side of things of course Wink
Just add a scroll list in software somwhere. "Clock buffers: 1,2,4,8,16...2^xxyy"
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How many clock buffers does the avalon have? Will if have more than BFL? Can you upgrade our clock buffer count so we can be more competitive?

Cheesy
sr. member
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Avalon ASIC Team
I think the demonstration event has been mentioned at the first (around late Sep. ?). but please let Yifu to re-explain it later, he is at the meeting in Macau


 (in order from left to right, and bottom to top) Ira from BitInstant, Thomas from NEFT vodka, Roger from memeorydealers, Eric from BitInstant, Kelvin from http://bitcoins.co.kr/, ME, and Charlie from Bitinstant and Bill from Calvin Ayre.

Back to work mode after Dec 2nd. Yes, everything is going smoothly
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BitMinter
and all I can say is our project is going well.

Good to hear. Team China FTW  Cheesy
hero member
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We will stand and fight.
I think the demonstration event has been mentioned at the first (around late Sep. ?). but please let Yifu to re-explain it later, he is at the meeting in Macau.

and all I can say is our project is going well.
legendary
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I wish them well, as I too would like to see them be the first out the door with ASICs.

Still, I wonder if they have a working prototype at this point. I understand their want for secrecy. I just want to know how far they have advanced to date. A working prototype is a very good sign.
hero member
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They just stated that the demo unit will be ready around new year. It seems they're doing a shared wafer run (hence the small number of chips/batch). This is the cheapest and only way of creating a working ASIC prototype and also the right thing to do in general. Looking good for team Avalon. If they get it right on their first try, I doubt they'll be missing deadlines. If not, at least they haven't burned shitloads of money on a garbage mask-set.
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Question:

Does your team [Avalon] currently possess a prototype that is currently functional at this time? (not a simulation, but a working prototype?)

Second Follow up Question:

If so, does the device work as expected? Are there any known flaws or issues with the underlying hardware at this time?

+1
legendary
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Question:

Does your team [Avalon] currently possess a prototype that is currently functional at this time? (not a simulation, but a working prototype?)

Second Follow up Question:

If so, does the device work as expected? Are there any known flaws or issues with the underlying hardware at this time?
sr. member
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Avalon ASIC Team
No delays to see here.
 
To offer some more detail on the next update, we wish to address the uncertainty the community's been having about if the ASICs are even real, mostly due to our competition failing to meet the deadlines. Recently it has been happening more often in which I had to defend the Avalon image from general statements on ASICs are delayed again and other false accusations.

In this light, we have contacted our foundry, TSMC and Fujitsu who is handling our chip packaging to provide a copy of our original contracts with them to produce the Avalon ASICs. We hope this will provide some comfort and trust with our potential customers.

Again, the reason we do not wish to release pictures such as our board design and such is purely for competitive reasons, especially now that we known bASIC has yet to complete their board.

Our demonstration is still scheduled to happen around the end of the year, then soon 1-2 weeks after the demo, Shipping will begin.
sr. member
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Avalon ASIC Team
Any idea of when the next email update (#5)  may occur?

Soon as in probably within the next week. we want to address some of the uncertainty when it comes to ASICs.
legendary
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Is it safe to say "the Avalon device is no where near its maximum performance at the current 66Gh/s"?

Is there still quite a lot of headroom to play with?

Any idea of when the next email update (#5)  may occur?
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Avalon ASIC Team
Addressing the recent bASIC 33% performance increase and shipping delays:

For long we at Avalon have predicted the possibility of a price/hash war happening due to competition; after all, we fired the first shot by announce our device at 50% performance increase than the rest of the field initially.

If 2 of your main competitors, BFL and bASIC, are both far enough along into the process of getting ASICs into customers hands as they say they are, then what are your concerns about publicizing this information? It's too late in the game for them to really steal any ideas from you, isn't it?

If, then indeed. They are scheduled to ship before us anyways, I am fortunately enough to have the option to wait and see.

See, this is exactly what I'm talking about, now bASIC has announced they are increasing the chip count on the board, and there is possibility the engineers have to redesign their board, so are they really far along the process? Like I previously mentioned,  I am fortunately enough to have the option to wait and see.


Disregard, this information no longer apply. To provide a better explanation, we used a modular design so the number of chips on the Unit is not yet final, we are still playing around the numbers to get the best power consumption vs. hash-rate.

I have also previously mentioned due to the nature of our unit design and the fact we are due to ship after our competitors, we have time to play around with our numbers. In fact, I particularly scheduled for if something like this to happen, we still have time and can ship without delays.

and Lastly, the following still holds true.
It sounds like you have a number of undisclosed features, correct?
This is correct.
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Life is short, play long
For anyone that's interested, it looks like there are 3 units left in the store that will ship with the first batch.

avalon-asic.com

I was one of the lucky bastards Smiley.
Bought last of shelf, however it could be more are coming if people not paying for their ASIC.
sr. member
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Avalon ASIC Team
Hi, could you please post your die size so I can list your product's η-factor?  BFL has posted all the information needed to compute theirs.

Have you had a chance to post these figures?

Yes, awhile ago.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1323704
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