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newbie
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Is it safe to say that all eth forkes are waiting for eth's code for pos?

That's a solid strat, no?  Isn't catching what eth drops the primary advantage for an eth fork?  The only reason for the recent drop across the board (including Lisk which isn't even an eth fork) is that the smart contract/dapp technology itself came into question.  Most of the suits investing in these things don't seem to understand how this stuff works.  That's really the only way I can rationalize the way the markets reacted to the DAO event: they became scared of smart contracts as a concept. 

I certainly hope that Shift and Expanse don't do PoS until after Ethereum does.  It makes strategic sense to let Ethereum do the risky innovating and stick to mashing up with other decentralized web services and renaming geth's js namespaces, editing documentation and CMakeLists.txt files.

Comparing all the existing forks we are the most active in unique development without purely relying on Ethereum's releases.

The difference between other forks and SHIFT is that we are not purely marketing the functionality inherited by forking off Ethereum, which seems to be why the other forks suffered alongside Ethereum with this recent uncertainty.

We have and always will be building our own unique vision of a parallel, decentralized internet instead of advertising functionality that we inherited without adding any value to the crypto ecosystem itself.



Personally I really like Shift, am mining and buying more than the other forks (and at times even ETH itself).  I would like to see more pull requests upstream from shiftcurrency -> ethereum though if you guys are innovating the tech.  I might even start contributing code myself if that were the case.  I'm a sucker for the underdog Wink.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Is it safe to say that all eth forkes are waiting for eth's code for pos?

That's a solid strat, no?  Isn't catching what eth drops the primary advantage for an eth fork?  The only reason for the recent drop across the board (including Lisk which isn't even an eth fork) is that the smart contract/dapp technology itself came into question.  Most of the suits investing in these things don't seem to understand how this stuff works.  That's really the only way I can rationalize the way the markets reacted to the DAO event: they became scared of smart contracts as a concept. 

I certainly hope that Shift and Expanse don't do PoS until after Ethereum does.  It makes strategic sense to let Ethereum do the risky innovating and stick to mashing up with other decentralized web services and renaming geth's js namespaces, editing documentation and CMakeLists.txt files.

Comparing all the existing forks we are the most active in unique development without purely relying on Ethereum's releases.

The difference between other forks and SHIFT is that we are not purely marketing the functionality inherited by forking off Ethereum, which seems to be why the other forks suffered alongside Ethereum with this recent uncertainty.

We have and always will be building our own unique vision of a parallel, decentralized internet instead of advertising functionality that we inherited without adding any value to the crypto ecosystem itself.

sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Is it safe to say that all eth forkes are waiting for eth's code for pos?

Without a reference Proof of Stake implementation for Ethereum it is close to impossible to change the consensus algorithm.

newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
Is it safe to say that all eth forkes are waiting for eth's code for pos?

That's a solid strat, no?  Isn't catching what eth drops the primary advantage for an eth fork?  The only reason for the recent drop across the board (including Lisk which isn't even an eth fork) is that the smart contract/dapp technology itself came into question.  Most of the suits investing in these things don't seem to understand how this stuff works.  That's really the only way I can rationalize the way the markets reacted to the DAO event: they became scared of smart contracts as a concept. 

I certainly hope that Shift and Expanse don't do PoS until after Ethereum does.  It makes strategic sense to let Ethereum do the risky innovating and stick to mashing up with other decentralized web services and renaming geth's js namespaces, editing documentation and CMakeLists.txt files.
sr. member
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Is it safe to say that all eth forkes are waiting for eth's code for pos?
sr. member
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High profitability has been one of the factors why people extracted a coin, and it was just for a moment, but now it is necessary to keep the bar, our community is not large and it is necessary to have more a lot more, and then it will go faster and better, the market needs support, soft part is important too, do not forget that there are different categories of people among traders and other investors with a long investment, the third POW miners, fourth POS. and for all we must create a pleasant environment. more severe conditions are good when the community is a large and strong, the products are already in the works and so on.

We have a long line of developments, releases and marketing lined up that we hope will foster an attractive opportunity for everyone from miners to investors to cryptocurrency enthusiasts, but currently we do not have the liquidity to support being the second (or third) most profitable coin to mine worldwide for much longer, so we need to adjust the balance between being profitable to mine and protecting our investors from strong devaluation of their investment.

Miners bring coins to the markets and help price discovery, investors buy those coins and give price stability. That is an ongoing process and we want to show that we support both ideologies Smiley



totally agree, this is the correct understanding. I just to to keep the balance between the two sides and make a really worthwhile project, there is little good projects, because they all want to make money quickly and to date), but long-term perspective is always beneficial
sr. member
Activity: 364
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High profitability has been one of the factors why people extracted a coin, and it was just for a moment, but now it is necessary to keep the bar, our community is not large and it is necessary to have more a lot more, and then it will go faster and better, the market needs support, soft part is important too, do not forget that there are different categories of people among traders and other investors with a long investment, the third POW miners, fourth POS. and for all we must create a pleasant environment. more severe conditions are good when the community is a large and strong, the products are already in the works and so on.

We have a long line of developments, releases and marketing lined up that we hope will foster an attractive opportunity for everyone from miners to investors to cryptocurrency enthusiasts, but currently we do not have the liquidity to support being the second (or third) most profitable coin to mine worldwide for much longer, so we need to adjust the balance between being profitable to mine and protecting our investors from strong devaluation of their investment.

Miners bring coins to the markets and help price discovery, investors buy those coins and give price stability. That is an ongoing process and we want to show that we support both ideologies Smiley

sr. member
Activity: 241
Merit: 250
Hi, guys. Anyone mining at bitcause pool ? Since last 1:33 at night i do not receive payments to my wallet. Got like 24 unpaid coins on pool. Previous times pool payed regularly every 2 hours for 3-4 coins. What happened now ? Cannot find any contact info, web interface very simple.

Shift is rocking upwards. At what block POW switches to hybrid POS/POW ?

Hi dream_miner,

currently there is no hard date or block when the switch to POS will happen. We will consider switching as soon as there is a working implementation for POS available.

We are currently discussing decreasing block rewards / increasing block time in the near future to keep inflation a low as possible while simultaneously giving enough incentive to miners to secure our blockchain. Additionally the nodestaking feature should take a lot of pressure from the market too.

The Phantom development for our new wallet is coming along very nicely, so please check back regularly as we will try to update on the progress and release date as best as we can.



decrease in awards and uvilichenie block of time to kill the coin, if you are now and will continue to be set and the complexity of a set of network power, all will come quickly to the small mining. now I have 4 hours 65 coins and a further 4 days ago it was 250, the network is still rising in the 5 times and there will be a happy hunting ground for the award of tighter capacity.

We are carefully considering all options but seeing as we still have an immature and illiquid market and a very high Roi for miners, the relationship between profitability and price has been very one-sided for a long time.



High profitability has been one of the factors why people extracted a coin, and it was just for a moment, but now it is necessary to keep the bar, our community is not large and it is necessary to have more a lot more, and then it will go faster and better, the market needs support, soft part is important too, do not forget that there are different categories of people among traders and other investors with a long investment, the third POW miners, fourth POS. and for all we must create a pleasant environment. more severe conditions are good when the community is a large and strong, the products are already in the works and so on.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Hi, guys. Anyone mining at bitcause pool ? Since last 1:33 at night i do not receive payments to my wallet. Got like 24 unpaid coins on pool. Previous times pool payed regularly every 2 hours for 3-4 coins. What happened now ? Cannot find any contact info, web interface very simple.

Shift is rocking upwards. At what block POW switches to hybrid POS/POW ?

Hi dream_miner,

currently there is no hard date or block when the switch to POS will happen. We will consider switching as soon as there is a working implementation for POS available.

We are currently discussing decreasing block rewards / increasing block time in the near future to keep inflation a low as possible while simultaneously giving enough incentive to miners to secure our blockchain. Additionally the nodestaking feature should take a lot of pressure from the market too.

The Phantom development for our new wallet is coming along very nicely, so please check back regularly as we will try to update on the progress and release date as best as we can.



decrease in awards and uvilichenie block of time to kill the coin, if you are now and will continue to be set and the complexity of a set of network power, all will come quickly to the small mining. now I have 4 hours 65 coins and a further 4 days ago it was 250, the network is still rising in the 5 times and there will be a happy hunting ground for the award of tighter capacity.

We are carefully considering all options but seeing as we still have an immature and illiquid market and a very high Roi for miners, the relationship between profitability and price has been very one-sided for a long time.

sr. member
Activity: 241
Merit: 250
Hi, guys. Anyone mining at bitcause pool ? Since last 1:33 at night i do not receive payments to my wallet. Got like 24 unpaid coins on pool. Previous times pool payed regularly every 2 hours for 3-4 coins. What happened now ? Cannot find any contact info, web interface very simple.

Shift is rocking upwards. At what block POW switches to hybrid POS/POW ?

Hi dream_miner,

currently there is no hard date or block when the switch to POS will happen. We will consider switching as soon as there is a working implementation for POS available.

We are currently discussing decreasing block rewards / increasing block time in the near future to keep inflation a low as possible while simultaneously giving enough incentive to miners to secure our blockchain. Additionally the nodestaking feature should take a lot of pressure from the market too.

The Phantom development for our new wallet is coming along very nicely, so please check back regularly as we will try to update on the progress and release date as best as we can.



decrease in awards and uvilichenie block of time to kill the coin, if you are now and will continue to be set and the complexity of a set of network power, all will come quickly to the small mining. now I have 4 hours 65 coins and a further 4 days ago it was 250, the network is still rising in the 5 times and there will be a happy hunting ground for the award of tighter capacity.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Hi, guys. Anyone mining at bitcause pool ? Since last 1:33 at night i do not receive payments to my wallet. Got like 24 unpaid coins on pool. Previous times pool payed regularly every 2 hours for 3-4 coins. What happened now ? Cannot find any contact info, web interface very simple.

Shift is rocking upwards. At what block POW switches to hybrid POS/POW ?

Hi dream_miner,

currently there is no hard date or block when the switch to POS will happen. We will consider switching as soon as there is a working implementation for POS available.

We are currently discussing decreasing block rewards / increasing block time in the near future to keep inflation a low as possible while simultaneously giving enough incentive to miners to secure our blockchain. Additionally the nodestaking feature should take a lot of pressure from the market too.

The Phantom development for our new wallet is coming along very nicely, so please check back regularly as we will try to update on the progress and release date as best as we can.

member
Activity: 73
Merit: 10
Hi, guys. Anyone mining at bitcause pool ? Since last 1:33 at night i do not receive payments to my wallet. Got like 24 unpaid coins on pool. Previous times pool payed regularly every 2 hours for 3-4 coins. What happened now ? Cannot find any contact info, web interface very simple.

Shift is rocking upwards. At what block POW switches to hybrid POS/POW ?
sr. member
Activity: 304
Merit: 250
with such difficulty coin price should already be at least 8-10k at the moment the profitability of mining is very low, one cheap electricity can still get a crumb of profit and who already expensive electricity on the profit can not be considered. Production = cost

the difficulty has increased 4-fold, production dropped significantly. Network capacity grew by 2 times.

think next week is big time
They're getting closer and closer from #Phantom release
sr. member
Activity: 241
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with such difficulty coin price should already be at least 8-10k at the moment the profitability of mining is very low, one cheap electricity can still get a crumb of profit and who already expensive electricity on the profit can not be considered. Production = cost

the difficulty has increased 4-fold, production dropped significantly. Network capacity grew by 2 times.
hero member
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Merit: 531
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Anyone cares to join http://shift.geilidao.com pool? Pool got only 2 miners with a total hash power of 35 mh/s.I'm currently mining there with 1 miner.

Btw, seems like miners-zone pool got 40% of the hash power and next one is bitcause pool with 28% of hash power...
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
does the official "pool.shiftnrg.org" supports claymore's miner? and what conf should i use? Thanks

Open-ethereum pool implementation support claymore dual miner. So shf.miners-zone.net will works. Here is example:

Code:
EthDcrMiner64.exe -mode 0 -esm 0 -allcoins 1 -epool shf.miners-zone.net:58008/your_wallet/rig1 -ewal your_wallet -eworker rig1 -epsw x -dcri 30 -dpool stratum+tcp://your_decred_pool:pool_port -dwal account.rigname -dpsw x

Ok thanks for the help, ExEric3. Im going to mine there.
sr. member
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If you don't see Shift in the list of cryptocurrencies to trade in ‪Bitsquare, you need to add it manually, so‬ go to Settings > Currencies to get displayed in list > Add cryptocurrency > select Shift

sr. member
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SHIFT‬ has just been added to the vote list on Rawx.io, a future altcoin exchange with social features, VOTE for SHIFT! https://rawx.io/poll.html



Keep voting, even if we don't make it to the beta testing phase, showing support makes it more likely to be listed.
sr. member
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boys, now is the time that the miners go off the ether at the expanse and to us, the network has increased by 2 times and complexity of 2 days to 3.
it is necessary to gradually raise the price of our coins and to continuously compete with the growing complexity of the network and this is a good moment for the moments. Now we can take a share of the power and occupy the market, and new users into our community. do not miss the chance
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
hope to see shift in 1 dollar mark.

Reaching 1 dollar mark seems to be quite an uphill task, currently its at around 2 cents.
You guys feel it could fly that high  Huh
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