Looks really interesting but where is the block explorer and where is the premine adress?
Blockexplorer just search Ethereum block explorer on google and there is no premine address because this is not a premine scam
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September 10, 2015, 07:06:17 AM
Blockexplorer just search Ethereum block explorer on google and there is no premine address because this is not a premine scam
September 10, 2015, 07:05:24 AM
Looks really interesting but where is the premine adress?
September 10, 2015, 06:52:32 AM
Probably the most promising coins out there
September 10, 2015, 06:51:33 AM
where dev? why no news?
You want news every day, it's not possible.and dev answered on some question today at Today at 07:01:03 AM.
I think there are lots of trolls from eth or kids?
September 10, 2015, 06:44:38 AM
where dev? why no news?
September 10, 2015, 06:15:05 AM
Right, so what happened when I bought ETH at 0.02 and sold at 0.09? Didn't feel like a futile action to me..
Wow! You are the next contestant on the Price is Right!ETH never went to 0.09... stop the BS! Maybe 0.008 for a brief moment...
Forgot a 0, ath was 0.00888, please excuse my mistake
September 10, 2015, 04:56:51 AM
Right, so what happened when I bought ETH at 0.02 and sold at 0.09? Didn't feel like a futile action to me..
Wow! You are the next contestant on the Price is Right!ETH never went to 0.09... stop the BS! Maybe 0.008 for a brief moment...
From an economic stand point, the people that invested in the IPO/ICO at $0.30 an ETH are the big winners from a profit aspect.
I don't remember ETH going above .0075.
I never quoted ETH as a currency. ETH will always be ETH, no clone can take that away from them and they pioneer the way for clones to make their own ideals separate from ETH.
Everything in crypto is speculated, even BTC. It's the underlying tech of crypto which are the most important parts, may it be blockchains, smart contracts/DAPPS, DAO, PoC, etc....
Everything in crypto is speculated, even BTC. It's the underlying tech of crypto which are the most important parts, may it be blockchains, smart contracts/DAPPS, DAO, PoC, etc....
pioneer the way for clones to make their own ideals separate from ETH. Totally agree! It is the main purpose of clone to forward new ideas!
What are the new ideas brought forward by Shift? To be announced! We have great plans! Ok.
Everything in cryptos is mostly wait and see. If you have a complaint about it, then do something about it. Maybe create your own coin, algo, etc..... Criticism, debate and arguing is fine, but make it constructive and progressive.....
September 10, 2015, 04:17:21 AM
Putting all economics and politics to the side, do you support the coin you wish to invest/mine in? That's the main question, people mined BTC and LTC at a lose for a year or so until they realize the fruits of their labor.
Ethereum is a platform for smart contracts - not a currency. Cloning Ethereum as a coin is futile.
Therefore, speculating on ETH price is futile. Same goes to clones of Ethereum.
Right, so what happened when I bought ETH at 0.02 and sold at 0.09? Didn't feel like a futile action to me..
September 10, 2015, 04:10:55 AM
Putting all economics and politics to the side, do you support the coin you wish to invest/mine in? That's the main question, people mined BTC and LTC at a lose for a year or so until they realize the fruits of their labor.
Ethereum is a platform for smart contract - not a currency. Cloning Ethereum is futile.
Ethereum has mechanisms in place to remove the volatility of the ETH vs GAS. GAS is required to run contracts, not ETH. By adjusting the GAS price vs ETH price, ETH price remains stable. Therefore, speculating on ETH is futile.
I never quoted ETH as a currency. ETH will always be ETH, no clone can take that away from them and they pioneer the way for clones to make their own ideals separate from ETH.
Everything in crypto is speculated, even BTC. It's the underlying tech of crypto which are the most important parts, may it be blockchains, smart contracts/DAPPS, DAO, PoC, etc....
September 10, 2015, 03:52:52 AM
That's all and dandy, but your not accounting for market volume and prices per bid and asking prices base on volume. None of the network hashrate is ever stable, there is spikes and dips also or the time per block. You have to account for variances and a tolerance of sort on mining, solo or pool.
-"Not accounting for market volume": 3 BTC per day doesn't usually count a reliable market volume
-"Network Hashrate": Network hashrate has been very stable in relation to market price - hovering between 7 GH to 15
-"there is spikes and dips also or the time per block": correct. This is due to the slow (very slow) difficulty adjustment of Ethereum code (oops sorry Shift!)... It went from 15 sec per blocks, to 30 sec per blocks over the last week.
-"variances and a tolerance of sort on mining, solo or pool": 20 blocks snapshots at pools usually gives a very good approximation of the current state of a network.
Putting all economics and politics to the side, do you support the coin you wish to invest/mine in? That's the main question, people mined BTC and LTC at a lose for a year or so until they realize the fruits of their labor.
September 10, 2015, 03:39:34 AM
Without proper tools, I am just trying to get the math sorted out:
From shift.suprnova.cc:
Found 20 blocks over 57 = 35% of the network
Suprnova.cc reported hash rate = 2 GH/s
Therefore, network hash is about = 2 /0.35 = 5.7 GH/s
Difficulty = 53.8
57 blocks found over 20 minutes = 20 * 60 / 57 = 21 sec per block = 3 blocks per min = 4300 blocks per day = 13k shf per day
If I have a 50 MH/s rig, I would be 50 / 5 700 = 0.88 % of the network, and get 0.88% of the rewards = 0.0088 * 13k = 114 shf per day.
114 shf * 0,00015 BTC/shf = 0.017 BTC per day.
Now, same math with Ethereum:
50 / 350 000 * 0.0051 BTC/Eth * 5000 blocks/day * 5 eth/block = 0.018 BTC per day * $237/BTC = $4.30
Miners are smart! Mining Ethereum or Shift is equivalent at the moment!
Next math problem... how much did you spend on electricity for mining those ETH or SHF?
From shift.suprnova.cc:
Found 20 blocks over 57 = 35% of the network
Suprnova.cc reported hash rate = 2 GH/s
Therefore, network hash is about = 2 /0.35 = 5.7 GH/s
Difficulty = 53.8
57 blocks found over 20 minutes = 20 * 60 / 57 = 21 sec per block = 3 blocks per min = 4300 blocks per day = 13k shf per day
If I have a 50 MH/s rig, I would be 50 / 5 700 = 0.88 % of the network, and get 0.88% of the rewards = 0.0088 * 13k = 114 shf per day.
114 shf * 0,00015 BTC/shf = 0.017 BTC per day.
Now, same math with Ethereum:
50 / 350 000 * 0.0051 BTC/Eth * 5000 blocks/day * 5 eth/block = 0.018 BTC per day * $237/BTC = $4.30
Miners are smart! Mining Ethereum or Shift is equivalent at the moment!
Next math problem... how much did you spend on electricity for mining those ETH or SHF?
That's all and dandy, but your not accounting for market volume and prices per bid and asking prices base on volume. None of the network hashrate is ever stable, there is spikes and dips also or the time per block. You have to account for variances and a tolerance of sort on mining, solo or pool.
Same with electricity costs, that's not linear either. Different companies charge different rates and/or have tier pricing. Some people get free electricity (legally) depending on the situation.
September 10, 2015, 03:31:45 AM
hi dev. what a problem this coin?
September 10, 2015, 03:20:09 AM
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I'm sorry but how should I fix my pool to hash a Dagger coin with Scrypt rigs ?! You'd either have to run and mine on a multipool, or you'd have to rework ETH/SHIFT to allow Scrypt mining too, which surely won't happen ...
I'm not sure if you understand that there are coins with different Hashalgos... You have DASH for example with X11.. You cannot mine DASH with Scrypt Rigs, unlike Litecoin, which you CAN mine with Scrypt, but you cannot mine Litecoin with X11 Rigs etc..
It's like with cars.. You cannot fill Diesel fuel into a Gasoline Driven car... But you also cannot tell Mercedes to "fix their car" when you filled Diesel in a Gasoline car...
I'm not sure if you understand that there are coins with different Hashalgos... You have DASH for example with X11.. You cannot mine DASH with Scrypt Rigs, unlike Litecoin, which you CAN mine with Scrypt, but you cannot mine Litecoin with X11 Rigs etc..
It's like with cars.. You cannot fill Diesel fuel into a Gasoline Driven car... But you also cannot tell Mercedes to "fix their car" when you filled Diesel in a Gasoline car...
I don't really care about the technical details there mate, just make sure your pools work in the future.
@SpeedDemon13: Thanks, really appreciate it!
Don't forget to add this in the ethminer bat files:
For OpenCL: --cl-global-work 16384
For CUDA: --cuda-grid-size 8192 --cuda-block-size 128 --cuda-turbo
I gained about 1 to 2 MHS per HD 7970, 3x HD 7970 did 68 MHS before I add the OpenCL string. Now I'm doing 72 MHS with the 3 cards.
SpeedDemon13 thanks for the OpenCL string tip! I gained some addtional speed!
Gunther...OCminer pools are one of the better pools in crypto world, the problem is in you that you mined with the wrong algo...
Your very welcomed....Always nice to help the crypto community in general.....Every little hash power increase is worth it in the long run...lol
September 10, 2015, 03:03:53 AM
not complaining..just saying mine for 1 week max then move to next shit clone..best way to make some BTC before price tanks
September 10, 2015, 03:01:03 AM
The battle of the Ethereum copycats is about to begin:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-expanse-exp-1st-stable-fork-of-ethereum-new-algo-pirlguard-1173722
Honey! Can you pass me the popcorn?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-expanse-exp-1st-stable-fork-of-ethereum-new-algo-pirlguard-1173722
Honey! Can you pass me the popcorn?
Made some good BTC with SHF during the first week and now the price has crashed
Best way to deal with these shit clones is to mine them at launch and at least for 1 week, dump and move on to the next shit clone, then repeat
You made some good BTC and now you are complaining about what? I wont even bother to answer the above. Makes no sense, at all really.
September 10, 2015, 02:59:36 AM
The battle of the Ethereum copycats is about to begin:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-expanse-exp-1st-stable-fork-of-ethereum-new-algo-pirlguard-1173722
Honey! Can you pass me the popcorn?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-expanse-exp-1st-stable-fork-of-ethereum-new-algo-pirlguard-1173722
Honey! Can you pass me the popcorn?
Made some good BTC with SHF during the first week and now the price has crashed
Best way to deal with these shit clones is to mine them at launch and at least for 1 week, dump and move on to the next shit clone, then repeat
September 10, 2015, 02:42:43 AM
The battle of the Ethereum copycats is about to begin:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-expanse-exp-1st-stable-fork-of-ethereum-new-algo-pirlguard-1173722
Honey! Can you pass me the popcorn?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-expanse-exp-1st-stable-fork-of-ethereum-new-algo-pirlguard-1173722
Honey! Can you pass me the popcorn?
Different project i think more serious then this one.
September 10, 2015, 02:24:32 AM
whats with the shift wallet allowing coins to be stolen......
I have now lost hundreds of coins ! account is still locked.... firewall is on........ yet they vanish....... seen it happen.
I even deleted the account and generated a new one ! yet still stolen........... again
??
I have now lost hundreds of coins ! account is still locked.... firewall is on........ yet they vanish....... seen it happen.
I even deleted the account and generated a new one ! yet still stolen........... again
??did devs post source code? haha probably wallet with malware.
look at OP, github link contains the source code
September 09, 2015, 11:58:33 PM
whats with the shift wallet allowing coins to be stolen......
I have now lost hundreds of coins ! account is still locked.... firewall is on........ yet they vanish....... seen it happen.
I even deleted the account and generated a new one ! yet still stolen........... again
??
I have now lost hundreds of coins ! account is still locked.... firewall is on........ yet they vanish....... seen it happen.
I even deleted the account and generated a new one ! yet still stolen........... again
??
September 09, 2015, 11:27:03 PM
my prediction is true if yesterday was at 10k satoshi, then just dump or otherwise pump
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