Topic: [ANN]Spectrecoin[XSPEC] TOR+OBFS4, Ring Sig, Stealth! - page 81. (Read 94882 times)

Well said. I couldn't agree more.

The first step to solving a problem is identifying it.  Just saying.

I don't think silencing people who are expressing problems helps a project to succeed.

Here's hoping that the SpectreProject community will be one that welcomes candid discussion, including criticism and dissent, going forward.

Yes, the development team is now working full time, to finish in December.
They work on the update that was announced for November: Wallet version: 1.4.0

I wil try, thanks

Phew you should try to contact C-Cex support in that case.

Hi,

Somebody knows if I can recover some XSPEC that I had in the exchange ccex, the currency was removed from that exchange and I did not take them out.

Thanks

I would imagine beachguy will keep us updated, he has being doing a great job as of late.

I am just waiting patiently for the 1.4 wallet which will open up the path to 2.0. The wallet itself has some cool features that you probably would not associate with a normal coin wallet release.

looking at the previous page 1.4 appears to be close and being actively worked on. At this point I think I would be happy even if it is a beta which appears in 2017 and not final.

the rumblings from the U.S and U.K governments on crypto regulation and information disclosure make the development of this coin more important as time passes even if the more mainstream holders of non-privacy focused coins don't really understand its implications.

1) Look here: https://github.com/bitcoinx2/spectre/wiki/FAQ#7-how-can-i-stake
2) Yes. If you mean the wallet, that is.



Take a look here: http://coinwiki.info/en/SpectreCoin And also the above link.

hi!
what reward for 1 block POS?
how many coins? 0,5 or 1 or ?
no information about it on the site.

Yeah, makes sense. In any project or organization, there is always a tradeoff: To get started, you need a core group or community of dedicated people that are willing to work tirelessly because they care and believe when no one else does. The project wouldn't exist and couldn't succeed without such people. But then, as the project grows, it evolves and its needs change, and it can be difficult for the core group to adjust to that and accept it, precisely because they are so personally invested. As a project matures, personal investment can switch from being an asset to being a challenge to further evolution.

Thanks for the conversation on this. I respect that it's been discussed before, so I won't bring it up further; you know how I feel (not that my opinion is worth any more than anyone else's!).

Hey guys,
I am new here. I invested in XSPEC, and I would also like to see it growing.

I am afraid, EleanorZ made a valid point here. If we like it or not, design and marketing do matter. This could be the best coin ever, but if the marketing is not cool enough, people won't appreciate it for what it is. There are also coins that are pushed primary by the marketing and not by the content behind, which is also not what is desired, of course. But as long as we have a good coin with a working concept, I think it is just fair to present it properly. Branding and web design should have high priorities, although not top priorities.

I also understand the point made by Gandalf86, about the risks of changing the name. However when the coin starts the grow, these risks will only grow with it. If we want to change the name at all, the sooner, the better. In my opinion, the net effect of a catchy new name and a cool (not copy-pasted) website would be positive.

Hey.
how many coins do you need for a POS?
Can I install a purse on the Rapsberry Pi 3?

are there any dev updates coming on xspec in december?

New to Slack - Been a nice week for new comers! diogoxow,  xspecvn, Chris_M, John, sprc86, DirtyMiner, steven, ckoroxod12, Cobaro, paperweight, Oleg, joli89, bango, shadow, Lef, ivan, Matthieu, jorgen, enalnomis, eruir82, stalked, the_stalker, JZ3QF9, Tom14,  vanjavk, iamblichi, Catdi, and TakadaKenji

We now stand at 972 members even after deactivations for whatever reason…..low or no activity, user voluntarily went inactive or was made inactive by mods.

Dev Nutz and Boltz - @jbg showed several times this past week to answer some questions and assure members things are progressing well!

SpectreCoin News -  There has been much talk and discussion  lately about “marketing”. Mostly people just wanting it to “happen”. Other members, mostly newer, comment they’re willing to help in some way in SpectreProject.
Some long time community members have made several suggestions ….so far the community has not acted very much on these suggestions that take little time or effort and zero cost. So I’m posting here as well. Take a look!

Many times, I’ve tried to make the point that the most powerful marketing “tool” is found in each and every one of us. And that is word of mouth.

Please, if you really want to contribute, if you really want to see the result of just how great it works…..participate! Sure some folks you propose to will say ...the website looks lame, others will say…..nah, updates don’t seem to happen fast enough,….let them go their way. But in a month or two….remind them you tried to let them know about SpectreCoin [xpec] and its potential.

If we expose SpectreCoin to only a 1000 people and just one half of one percent say “Hey looks nice! I’ll join in”....that’s 50 people! And do remember that not everyone has the ability to cut through all the chatter and noise to really understand SpectreCoin [xspec] for what it is and has to offer.

The first proposal -  was by @Leobitman - It was very simple. And I’ll extend this until December 18. “There is a bounty program very easy to win, if you have a Twitter account that is authentic, (the account can not be created just for this, you must have more than 40 followers).
Search on Twitter: Leo Bitman, 1) follow to know about SpectreCoin, 2) ReTweet for others to know, and 3) you send a public address to me, (the ones start with the uppercase letter: "S")
and that is all there is to it!, I will send you a "Free Sample of 10.00 XSPEC".
You can receive your 10 XSPEC, approximately in 2/4 days. - edit after publishing @Leobitman has extended this give him a shout in Slack!

The second Proposal -  easy to do thing each of you can do - @rkh has located 5 Bitcoin Talk threads where we can promote SpectreCoin [xspec]. A simple positive post without looking like an overly aggressive shill could be made without annoying people. This was posted yesterday in the “marketing_xspec” channel by @rkh and a very few picked up on it. If you are new to Slack and need help finding channels….just click on “channels” on the left hand menu to display or ask any of us how to join.
The links are as follows.

Altcoin under 1$ to invest in now?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2510355.20

What price do you predict for the the coins you hold in 2018?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2498193.new#new

Best altcoins to buy for 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2451506.new#new

Top 10 altcoins to buy right now before it’s too late
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2451514.new#new

BEST ALTCOIN TO INVEST IN
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2502597.new#new

SpectreCoin [xspec] is a community based project and what that means is each of us can contribute something in some way. We are asking now, as we wait for the upcoming v1.4 client/wallet, use this time positively.

I’d also like to leave a link that one of our members @stefland created to quickly inform about SpectreCoin, how it works and some of its features.

https://youtu.be/h_2AwPE-WW4

More about what we have, what we don’t and what can we do
Please don’t take it wrong when I say….I’m getting a little weary of seeing posts and opinions, seemingly over and over, about exchanges, what other coins are doing and what marketing SpectreCoin lacks or needs. We seem to have so many experts voicing opinions and that seem to have all the answers that it makes me wonder why you don’t start your own project.
I think I know why...IT’S FREAKING HARD!

Exchanges are bombarded by old and new coins (well over 1300 as of today).....truth be known we’re pretty fortunate to be on the ones we are.Yes, I’m very aware of the older exchanges and try to keep up on the newer ones and DUH!…..yes, I even contact them and try to maintain dialogue.
We seem to run into one thing or another that I alone cannot overcome and as some of you know it takes someone above my paygrade to go further.
So thanks for the suggestions but odds are...  I’ve already contacted them at least twice and continue to follow up from time to time.Laying the groundwork in a consistent professional fashion. So, as we grow I’m hopeful we can expand but, for the time being we have what we have.

Other coins? All of them face the same challenges today and how many have died a slow death in less than a year (or less) after release when “the next big thing” comes out. SpectreCoin is at its one year mark, has gotten stronger in spite of BitCoin’s meteoric rise, “airdrops” ….the “if its free its for me mentality” of coins that don’t even have fully working code…..and countless erc20 tokens that have terrible track record of just taking peoples’ money and all the other craziness that is crypto today.
 If you see something you don’t like about SpectreCoin….I’m very sorry, I am….maybe you should go find another coin that better suits your purpose.

But please don’t rag on xspec for what it may or may not have or  that you don’t care for…..You don’t like only one full time dev….ummm okay! But I can tell you from experience teams made up of several devs can just as easily fail or split up leaving investors high and dry and funds worthless...I mean like 10 sats or less. (been there done that). Think its distribution is lopsided (I can assure you it’s not when we have over 900 members here)...well we’d like to see you stay but, if it’s one thing crypto is about...it’s choices.


Marketing? Now here’s a fun one and my favorite (hope you read the start of this newsletter)….To be successful it doesn’t have to be zillion dollar huge….it just has to be consistent. I’ve learned again and again, and I’m in the retail business, what I already knew. Word of mouth will do more to promote a
product or service ( or hurt it) than anything else. That’s the grass-roots part of marketing that each and every one of you can be doing. Everyday!

Social media is great! And @rkh and @CommunityWhale head up the Reddit and twitter projects...heck @rkh has even taken on producing and modding the russian version of BitCoinTalk. But it still comes down to each of us talking up SpectreCoin in the circles we run in …..I bet each of you have a favorite place to hang out….! Post on twitter and Reddit, hang out on the telegram channel that we created people were calling for one. Telegram stands at 91 members but, its mostly new people, have you joined yet? …..it’s important to have someone there to greet newcomers.

So I guess i’m done….I hope everyone takes this in the spirit of community pulling together that is the vision that is SpectreProject!
If you read this whole news letter...THANK YOU...I appreciate it I know it was long.

               Beachguy
                                                                "Alone, we can do so little; together we can do so much."   
                                                                                                                            - Helen Keller                                                                                         

Exactly. For a step-by-step guide, see here: https://github.com/bitcoinx2/spectre/wiki/FAQ#6-i-have-zero-connections

You must add nodes taken from this updated list:

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xspec/#!network
Copy from: node list

You know what? I actually agree with that. Also I have been one of the people who proposed alternative, "catchier" names in the past, I think I proposed calling it "HALO" back then (quite the opposite of dark and shady, you see? But still protective). But both jbg (dev) and mandica (founder) pointed out that changing the brand also can have some negative impacts on the project. I am all open for change, and I agree that SpectreCoin is not an optimal name brand-wise. But sometimes one needs to be really cautious with change, because it tends to break things!   Whereas keeping the old name won't break things in the near future, so that we can focus on development, first.

If you try to discuss this question in Slack (again), you will see quite some opposition, but of course you are still welcome to check in! But honestly this question has been discussed almost as often as changing the website, so it's also kind of tiring to discuss this once again.

And btw., mostly for the developers and long-time members, Spectrecoin has also become some kind of "identity" that one has become used to, therefore such a change would also require to change one's own identity and self-perception of the project. So it's not so simple.

EleanorZ -> only does FUD here.
you just have to see his profile, he is a veteran user of pivx,
he always worked in favor of pivx, I doubt he has an XSPEC.

pivx begins with p, of Privacy, then why they publish the IPs of their users?.
Please see here: (copy and paste the whole address)

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/pivx/#!network

and then [node list] to see IP of PIVX users.

my wallet's been syncinc for more than a week and still nothing! i've restarted the program over and over again, it's never finished

I understand your point, but I think it depends on the name in question. There have been many names in the vein of DarkCoin, Darknet, StealthCoin, ShadowCoin, ShadowCash, Blackcoin, GhostCoin, SpectreCoin, etc. etc. etc. (and those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head). These names all evoke a sense of secrecy and privacy, but they are also quite generic, easily confused with each other, and sound more 'nerdy' than professional. I also think it's significant that the two most successful of these coins, DarkCoin and Darknet, only really achieved that success once they rebranded to DASH and PIVX, respectively. The funny thing is that 'DASH' and 'PIVX' are, objectively, strange names--they don't immediately call to mind the privacy aspect like the old names did. But they are unique and catchy sounding, and there is no way that someone can turn around and use the same name without being a clear copycat (ditto real-world corporate names like Yahoo!, Amazon, eBay, Nike, etc.--none of those names tell you anything about what the company does, but they are so unique that other companies can't accidentally/on purpose copy them. The same is not true of Shadow/Dark/Stealth/Ghost-related names, since those are simply concepts.

So yes, I agree that at some point you will have to stick with a name. My point is that that 'some point' should be when you have a unique, professional-sounding name that can't easily be copied, which isn't currently the case (as has just been demonstrated by the new Spectre). Being cool-sounding and descriptive isn't the same thing as being a good name from a marketing and brand-identity perspective.

Anyway, I'm not trying to be negative; XSPEC is a nice project with good potential and I hope it succeeds. I just think this is something to consider going forward.