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Topic: [ANN][YAC] YACoin ongoing development - page 128. (Read 380091 times)

hero member
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August 28, 2013, 07:49:58 AM
YAC mining even selling at .0001 BTC/YAC is at least 350% more profitable than mining BTC by my approximation.  Did a day mining feathercoin and compared how many FC I got to how many YAC I get in a day.. plus, looked at last BTC mining numbers from a month ago... 3x what it was a month ago.  YAC isn't dead or dying, the price is just adjusting to be in line with everything else.
sr. member
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August 28, 2013, 07:26:45 AM

well, unconfirmed transactions are kept in client memory until they either get into a block or get overwritten by another tx spending the same input (double-spend, usually with a higher fee and thus higher priority) or they expire (in case of blockchain.info server, the expiration period is 7 days IIRC, standard bitcoind/bitcoin-qt has it unlimited AFAIK, but it clears on restart -- that's why it can get confirmed even if blockchain.info is no longer showing the tx as pending). for example: you send 1 btc with zero fee, it gets stuck at unconfirmed for a week, blockchain.info removes it from their list of pending transactions but some mining pool does not, later that pool mints a block with a two weeks old tx and it's confirmed now. Smiley hope i explained it clearly.

You explained well, thanks.  Smiley
AGD
legendary
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Keeper of the Private Key
August 28, 2013, 06:43:15 AM
Since I started with POS (walletpassphrase xxxxxxxx 999999999 true) over one month ago, I have some difficulties with the client:

1. No POS blocks found, no rewards or anything recieved

Add lines listed bellow to yacoin.conf file and restart wallet afterwards.

Code:
server=1
rpcuser=someusername
rpcpassword=somepassword
gen=0

2. Starting the client takes 5-10 minutes, sometimes crashes

Slow startup is normal. I've experienced crashes too but very rarely. What version of wallet are you using anyway?

3. Most important: I hardly can send yacs to another wallet or trading platform or anything. Error: Transaction creation failed. I already tried dividing into 500Yac pieces and even smaller. Once in a while (like 1 of 10) a transaction gets through with a high fee (12YAC at the last try of 350Y). After a failed transaction the client crashes most of the time.

Using menu Settings > Options > tab Main check if your additional transaction fee is 0.000000 if not set it to that value. It is extra fee that will
be added to each and all transactions, on top of default 0.01 YAC fee. As sairon mentioned, it could be you are having many small inputs so of
course that transaction fee will be high in case you want to "merge" all those small inputs into big one. A lot of data must be moved and checked
by all other nodes on network. The more data, the higher transaction fee. Just send less coins per transaction.

4. Some of the transaction that work, keep getting unconfirmed until I start the client with --rescan.

It is -rescan actualy. You might try some other wallet version and eventualy reinstall your OS.

No good lord no. How is that stupid 'Yak' imagery not killed off yet? The value of fiat is based off of perception, and a funny-looking animal as the symbol is great to sway the perception of an outsider? The issue has already been addressed earlier in this thread... here are the logos to use, but I obviously like the one in my profile... http://imgur.com/NyRv4oc,NrPE30u,tHZ59ga,7BGBnGI,WzSU1Mc,ny0zcw3,tH5L9QA,tf0HQqq,BeYDNvK,MLL536l,1wlxCzx#8

I agree, your logos are so much better. What I like the most is separation from idea that coin must be round.

Thanks for your help. I could lower the fee and I even made some transactions now. Still some of them stick with the "transaction creation failed" error. The rest keeps still bothering me (slow start, crashes etc). I will send all the Yacs to another computer and delete the old wallet.

You wrote "server=1" and "gen=0" in the config file? Is it a must to have the server option activated to mine POS blocks and I can't use the client for mining?

sr. member
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One does not simply mine Bitcoins
August 28, 2013, 06:10:43 AM
BTC with no fee might just baunce back to sander!

More and more miners are not accepting no fee transfer!

How are these things decided? I've heard this a few times but never knew what's involved.

Pools have ways to reject tranactions? The QT client for solo-mine reject transactions based on a setting I don't know about?

For the bounce back part, it means sending client stop trying to send after a certain amount of time?
The values are hardcoded in the client. You need to either modify the source or write your own. For example the Eligius pool accepts even non-standard transactions (ones that are ok according to bitcoin spec, but qt refuses to rebroadcast them).
As for the bounce-back, you need to stop broadcasting the transaction (hard to do in qt client, you need to modify wallet.dat with pywallet; with eg. blockchain.info wallet, it does not try to rebroadcast, so the tx simply disappears (but still can get confirmed later on!)).

 Shocked and thanks for explaining.

well, unconfirmed transactions are kept in client memory until they either get into a block or get overwritten by another tx spending the same input (double-spend, usually with a higher fee and thus higher priority) or they expire (in case of blockchain.info server, the expiration period is 7 days IIRC, standard bitcoind/bitcoin-qt has it unlimited AFAIK, but it clears on restart -- that's why it can get confirmed even if blockchain.info is no longer showing the tx as pending). for example: you send 1 btc with zero fee, it gets stuck at unconfirmed for a week, blockchain.info removes it from their list of pending transactions but some mining pool does not, later that pool mints a block with a two weeks old tx and it's confirmed now. Smiley hope i explained it clearly.
sr. member
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August 28, 2013, 06:04:01 AM
BTC with no fee might just baunce back to sander!

More and more miners are not accepting no fee transfer!

How are these things decided? I've heard this a few times but never knew what's involved.

Pools have ways to reject tranactions? The QT client for solo-mine reject transactions based on a setting I don't know about?

For the bounce back part, it means sending client stop trying to send after a certain amount of time?
The values are hardcoded in the client. You need to either modify the source or write your own. For example the Eligius pool accepts even non-standard transactions (ones that are ok according to bitcoin spec, but qt refuses to rebroadcast them).
As for the bounce-back, you need to stop broadcasting the transaction (hard to do in qt client, you need to modify wallet.dat with pywallet; with eg. blockchain.info wallet, it does not try to rebroadcast, so the tx simply disappears (but still can get confirmed later on!)).

 Shocked and thanks for explaining.
sr. member
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One does not simply mine Bitcoins
August 28, 2013, 03:46:59 AM
BTC with no fee might just baunce back to sander!

More and more miners are not accepting no fee transfer!

How are these things decided? I've heard this a few times but never knew what's involved.

Pools have ways to reject tranactions? The QT client for solo-mine reject transactions based on a setting I don't know about?

For the bounce back part, it means sending client stop trying to send after a certain amount of time?
The values are hardcoded in the client. You need to either modify the source or write your own. For example the Eligius pool accepts even non-standard transactions (ones that are ok according to bitcoin spec, but qt refuses to rebroadcast them).
As for the bounce-back, you need to stop broadcasting the transaction (hard to do in qt client, you need to modify wallet.dat with pywallet; with eg. blockchain.info wallet, it does not try to rebroadcast, so the tx simply disappears (but still can get confirmed later on!)).
hero member
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August 27, 2013, 10:15:36 PM
Chart bellow says color used by current YACoin logo represents shame and "Want to disappear!" while Litecoin is regret with
"Oh, if only ... (Gox finaly adds LTC)" and Bitcoin is pride with "Bursting with pride!" which really suits current prices and trends.

Change logo color, naoooooooooooooooo!  Grin

Your all taste in names is more than just questionable. You people seem to vote for a new ugly name without actually bothering about style,dignity or maby the new domains we would need if that monstrosity actually wins. So, without any faith left in mankind, I went on a shopping spree and wasted some cash. I really like my new jeans.

"Your Alternative Currency" and similar stuff would be nice slogan though.

Yeah damn good idea.
Yet another alt coin is to pessimistic name. Your Alternative Currency sound much more valuable :-)
sr. member
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August 27, 2013, 10:14:18 PM

The only thing that hurts me there is stupid, premined, centralized, closed-source XRP valued at $643,779,590. Retards are many, obviously.

That's a completely fake number...
Only 3% of XRP has been released... and Ripple is on Life Support.

But it does prove that the people running coinmarketcap are clueless...
Why don't they just use all 21,000,000 coins in BTC Cap?
hero member
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GCVMMWH
August 27, 2013, 09:14:23 PM
Status: 0/unconfirmed, broadcast through 4 nodes
Date: 8/27/13 **:58
To: 1AM4UYBjY6VyxD9oTgi8xCGB6VfQN3dcEe
Debit: -1.10 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.001 BTC
Net amount: -1.101 BTC
Transaction ID: 447a9272f3d96f88d376d4ad56076b79fc4d242200c37471e1054b884bf08868

I sent a little extra due to the f*up Wink

Send the rest of the YAC's once everything is confirmed and post here.

Status: 139 confirmations
Date: 8/27/13 **:28
From: unknown
To: YLoyZvVK1ckViN91wfU3xpFADjBAb7rHyZ (own address, label: ***)
Credit: 20000.00 YAC
Net amount: +20000.00 YAC
Transaction ID: 62e38f85cecd4b3bb72062f5854d7b52868b47890d70bea8931bebd200cf2a5d

Thanks again St.Bit, not only for the transaction, but unintentionally participating in a bug fix Wink  I will definitely fix the 0 fee issue for YAC.


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It was only the wind.
August 27, 2013, 07:22:30 PM

The only thing that hurts me there is stupid, premined, centralized, closed-source XRP valued at $643,779,590. Retards are many, obviously.
Nah, I just ignore that one.

EDIT: BTW, what I thinks hurts YAC the most is that coin-hopping sites like coinchoose.com haven't it listed (for being a scrypt-chacha based coin (or however you like to call this implementation)). This way there's no simple means to compare profitability against other altcoins and IMO that discourages many potential miners.

That's a GOOD thing. I wrote my own profitability calc.
sr. member
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August 27, 2013, 07:59:05 PM

EDIT: BTW, what I thinks hurts YAC the most is that coin-hopping sites like coinchoose.com haven't it listed (for being a scrypt-chacha based coin (or however you like to call this implementation)). This way there's no simple means to compare profitability against other altcoins and IMO that discourages many potential miners.

That's a GOOD thing. I wrote my own profitability calc.

While that makes Yacoin easy to mine right now, things do need to become simpler for more people to join in.

I also think those profit comparison sites can provide exposure. I for one, visit http://dustcoin.com/mining well before I knew bitcointalk forum. In terms of exposure, I suspect http://dustcoin.com/mining would be more helpful than coinchoose because fewer names are there, hence every name is better remembered by visitors.
sr. member
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August 27, 2013, 06:29:56 PM
BTC with no fee might just baunce back to sander!

More and more miners are not accepting no fee transfer!

How are these things decided? I've heard this a few times but never knew what's involved.

Pools have ways to reject tranactions? The QT client for solo-mine reject transactions based on a setting I don't know about?

For the bounce back part, it means sending client stop trying to send after a certain amount of time?
sr. member
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August 27, 2013, 05:26:19 PM
Yacoin has a strong and active community.
Oh thx to remind me:

Your all taste in names is more than just questionable. You people seem to vote for a new ugly name without actually bothering about style,dignity or maby the new domains we would need if that monstrosity actually wins. So, without any faith left in mankind, I went on a shopping spree and wasted some cash. I really like my new jeans.
sr. member
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One does not simply mine Bitcoins
August 27, 2013, 05:09:59 PM
How can that hurt?

I think it saved it from being uber dumped to infinity and left to rot with mega high diff.
From the start, yes, but now that it's almost 112 days old... well, it would be nice to have a decent comparison available.
hero member
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August 27, 2013, 05:07:56 PM
How can that hurt?

I think it saved it from being uber dumped to infinity and left to rot with mega high diff.
sr. member
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One does not simply mine Bitcoins
August 27, 2013, 05:05:36 PM

The only thing that hurts me there is stupid, premined, centralized, closed-source XRP valued at $643,779,590. Retards are many, obviously.
Nah, I just ignore that one.

EDIT: BTW, what I thinks hurts YAC the most is that coin-hopping sites like coinchoose.com haven't it listed (for being a scrypt-chacha based coin (or however you like to call this implementation)). This way there's no simple means to compare profitability against other altcoins and IMO that discourages many potential miners.

Non-standard mining software required would be another reason.
That's what I meant by "for being a scrypt-chacha based coin". But now with some YAC spin-offs, there might be incentive to add it to these sites.
legendary
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★Nitrogensports.eu★
August 27, 2013, 04:57:14 PM
The price will go back up.  Even bitcoin has it crashes when people start to dump.   I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm taking advantage of this opportunity and buying as many as I can.   

Yacoin has a strong, and activity, community.  As the N-factor continues in increase, it will become more and more difficult to 'pump-and-dump' this coin.   Like all new markets, when there are only a few investors involved, the spikes tend to be pretty severe.
sr. member
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One does not simply mine Bitcoins
August 27, 2013, 04:49:05 PM

The only thing that hurts me there is stupid, premined, centralized, closed-source XRP valued at $643,779,590. Retards are many, obviously.
Nah, I just ignore that one.

EDIT: BTW, what I thinks hurts YAC the most is that coin-hopping sites like coinchoose.com haven't it listed (for being a scrypt-chacha based coin (or however you like to call this implementation)). This way there's no simple means to compare profitability against other altcoins and IMO that discourages many potential miners.
sr. member
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One does not simply mine Bitcoins
sr. member
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August 27, 2013, 04:42:33 PM
The loophole is if transactionFee =0 then more red letters Wink

I knew.
What a shitty way to handle bugs btw. You can't expect everyone to use bitcoin and expect the user to read on the forum. This bug had been posted on Jan2013! >1bil market cap and still beta is something I have only seen by microsoft so far.
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