[ANN][YAC] YACoin ongoing development - page 129.

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Quote from: ivanlabrie on August 27, 2013, 06:07:56 PM

How can that hurt?

I think it saved it from being uber dumped to infinity and left to rot with mega high diff.

From the start, yes, but now that it's almost 112 days old... well, it would be nice to have a decent comparison available.

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How can that hurt?

I think it saved it from being uber dumped to infinity and left to rot with mega high diff.

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Quote from: sairon on August 27, 2013, 05:49:05 PM

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Quote from: sairon on August 27, 2013, 05:44:32 PM

It hurts... http://coinmarketcap.com/

The only thing that hurts me there is stupid, premined, centralized, closed-source XRP valued at $643,779,590. Retards are many, obviously.

Nah, I just ignore that one.

EDIT: BTW, what I thinks hurts YAC the most is that coin-hopping sites like coinchoose.com haven't it listed (for being a scrypt-chacha based coin (or however you like to call this implementation)). This way there's no simple means to compare profitability against other altcoins and IMO that discourages many potential miners.

Non-standard mining software required would be another reason.

That's what I meant by "for being a scrypt-chacha based coin". But now with some YAC spin-offs, there might be incentive to add it to these sites.

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The price will go back up. Even bitcoin has it crashes when people start to dump. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm taking advantage of this opportunity and buying as many as I can.

Yacoin has a strong, and activity, community. As the N-factor continues in increase, it will become more and more difficult to 'pump-and-dump' this coin. Like all new markets, when there are only a few investors involved, the spikes tend to be pretty severe.

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Quote from: sairon on August 27, 2013, 05:44:32 PM

It hurts... http://coinmarketcap.com/

The only thing that hurts me there is stupid, premined, centralized, closed-source XRP valued at $643,779,590. Retards are many, obviously.

Nah, I just ignore that one.

EDIT: BTW, what I thinks hurts YAC the most is that coin-hopping sites like coinchoose.com haven't it listed (for being a scrypt-chacha based coin (or however you like to call this implementation)). This way there's no simple means to compare profitability against other altcoins and IMO that discourages many potential miners.

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It hurts... http://coinmarketcap.com/

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Quote from: Joe_Bauers on August 27, 2013, 05:28:10 PM

The loophole is if transactionFee =0 then more red letters Wink

I knew.
What a shitty way to handle bugs btw. You can't expect everyone to use bitcoin and expect the user to read on the forum. This bug had been posted on Jan2013! >1bil market cap and still beta is something I have only seen by microsoft so far.

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Quote from: Joe_Bauers on August 27, 2013, 05:10:09 PM

There are still a few out there, but it will take more than the 5 minutes that it took for the YAC to be confirmed. This is the first time that I've used the new 0.8.3 Bitcoin client and somehow my fee setting didn't transfer from the older client. Ultimately, there should be a warning when trying to send with no fees. Actually I thought there was which is why I payed it no mind.

I think 0.8.3 got lower hard-coded fee so it could be that is the reason additional fee value was reseted. Anyway, switch to Bitcoin CC and
you will always know what is transaction fee before actualy sending coins.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yet-another-coin-control-release-closed-144331

Hehe, I'm wondering if it will actually be merged into 0.9 as they say. Cheesy

EDIT: nice 8 BTC buy wall on cryptsy @0.00004002

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Quote from: sairon on August 27, 2013, 05:23:24 PM

Quote from: St.Bit on August 27, 2013, 05:20:46 PM

Quote from: Joe_Bauers on August 27, 2013, 05:10:09 PM

Quote from: reb0rn21 on August 27, 2013, 05:03:47 PM

BTC with no fee might just baunce back to sander!

More and more miners are not accepting no fee transfer!

There are still a few out there, but it will take more than the 5 minutes that it took for the YAC to be confirmed. This is the first time that I've used the new 0.8.3 Bitcoin client and somehow my fee setting didn't transfer from the older client. Ultimately, there should be a warning when trying to send with no fees. Actually I thought there was which is why I payed it no mind.

Sorry St.Bit for the delay.

No Problem as long as I recive it. I hate that bitcoin-qt doesn't warn you on such important things. Not to give you any wrong ideas, but this could be a good spot to scam someone. You could easily doublespend on me and I could probably convince you to resent the transaction since it got "rejected".

I hope we won't have such loopholes when YAC has that age.

Well, it states everywhere in big red letters that you should not trust transactions without confirmations. So it's not a loophole. Wink

EDIT: LOL, they both got confirmed in the same block. Cheesy

The loophole is if transactionFee =0 then more red letters Wink

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Quote from: St.Bit on August 27, 2013, 05:20:46 PM

Quote from: Joe_Bauers on August 27, 2013, 05:10:09 PM

Quote from: reb0rn21 on August 27, 2013, 05:03:47 PM

BTC with no fee might just baunce back to sander!

More and more miners are not accepting no fee transfer!

There are still a few out there, but it will take more than the 5 minutes that it took for the YAC to be confirmed. This is the first time that I've used the new 0.8.3 Bitcoin client and somehow my fee setting didn't transfer from the older client. Ultimately, there should be a warning when trying to send with no fees. Actually I thought there was which is why I payed it no mind.

Sorry St.Bit for the delay.

No Problem as long as I recive it. I hate that bitcoin-qt doesn't warn you on such important things. Not to give you any wrong ideas, but this could be a good spot to scam someone. You could easily doublespend on me and I could probably convince you to resent the transaction since it got "rejected".

I hope we won't have such loopholes when YAC has that age.

Well, it states everywhere in big red letters that you should not trust transactions without confirmations. So it's not a loophole. Wink

EDIT: LOL, they both got confirmed in the same block. Cheesy

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Quote from: Joe_Bauers on August 27, 2013, 05:10:09 PM

Quote from: reb0rn21 on August 27, 2013, 05:03:47 PM

BTC with no fee might just baunce back to sander!

More and more miners are not accepting no fee transfer!

There are still a few out there, but it will take more than the 5 minutes that it took for the YAC to be confirmed. This is the first time that I've used the new 0.8.3 Bitcoin client and somehow my fee setting didn't transfer from the older client. Ultimately, there should be a warning when trying to send with no fees. Actually I thought there was which is why I payed it no mind.

Sorry St.Bit for the delay.

I was trying to buy YAC earlier and sent BTC to my exchange account, and wasn't prompted about transaction fee either, only to find no fee had been attached... Been 4 hours, and blockchain.info estimates another 11. Tried sending another 1 with a fee, and it hasn't even shown on the blockchain yet. I never understood how to know if a "miner" will accept a transaction that doesn't have a fee - I presume that's usually on the pool configuration?

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Quote from: Joe_Bauers on August 27, 2013, 05:10:09 PM

Quote from: reb0rn21 on August 27, 2013, 05:03:47 PM

BTC with no fee might just baunce back to sander!

More and more miners are not accepting no fee transfer!

There are still a few out there, but it will take more than the 5 minutes that it took for the YAC to be confirmed. This is the first time that I've used the new 0.8.3 Bitcoin client and somehow my fee setting didn't transfer from the older client. Ultimately, there should be a warning when trying to send with no fees. Actually I thought there was which is why I payed it no mind.

Sorry St.Bit for the delay.

No Problem as long as I recive it. I hate that bitcoin-qt doesn't warn you on such important things. Not to give you any wrong ideas, but this could be a good spot to scam someone. You could easily doublespend on me ~~and I could probably convince a novice to resent the transaction since it got "rejected" and hope it gets thru.~~

I hope we won't have such loopholes when YAC has that age.

EDIT: That wasn't the version I want to post.

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Quote from: Joe_Bauers on August 27, 2013, 05:10:09 PM

Quote from: reb0rn21 on August 27, 2013, 05:03:47 PM

BTC with no fee might just baunce back to sander!

More and more miners are not accepting no fee transfer!

There are still a few out there, but it will take more than the 5 minutes that it took for the YAC to be confirmed. This is the first time that I've used the new 0.8.3 Bitcoin client and somehow my fee setting didn't transfer from the older client. Ultimately, there should be a warning when trying to send with no fees. Actually I thought there was which is why I payed it no mind.

Sorry St.Bit for the delay.

Actually you can send a tx without fees if it has high enough priority. Dunno why yours is still pushed to the back of the queue, though.
There was a BIP (Bitcoin Implemetation Proposal) with the ability to add fees to existing transaction, but I can't seem to find it ATM. :-/ Something like this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/grease-payments-to-miners-280766

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Quote from: reb0rn21 on August 27, 2013, 05:03:47 PM

BTC with no fee might just baunce back to sander!

More and more miners are not accepting no fee transfer!

There are still a few out there, but it will take more than the 5 minutes that it took for the YAC to be confirmed. This is the first time that I've used the new 0.8.3 Bitcoin client and somehow my fee setting didn't transfer from the older client. Ultimately, there should be a warning when trying to send with no fees. Actually I thought there was which is why I payed it no mind.

Sorry St.Bit for the delay.

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BTC with no fee might just baunce back to sander!

More and more miners are not accepting no fee transfer!

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Status: 0/unconfirmed, broadcast through 4 nodes
Date: 8/27/13 **:58
To: 1AM4UYBjY6VyxD9oTgi8xCGB6VfQN3dcEe
Debit: -1.10 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.001 BTC
Net amount: -1.101 BTC
Transaction ID: 447a9272f3d96f88d376d4ad56076b79fc4d242200c37471e1054b884bf08868

I sent a little extra due to the f*up Wink

Send the rest of the YAC's once everything is confirmed and post here.

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Quote from: St.Bit on August 27, 2013, 04:49:39 PM

Quote from: sairon on August 27, 2013, 04:45:44 PM

Quote from: Joe_Bauers on August 27, 2013, 04:37:28 PM

Awesome thanks! Just sent 1 BTC

Status: 0/unconfirmed, has not been successfully broadcast yet
Date: 8/27/13 **:33
To: 1AM4UYBjY6VyxD9oTgi8xCGB6VfQN3dcEe
Debit: -1.00 BTC
Net amount: -1.00 BTC
Transaction ID: 5fd69325ea51abcddc76ea9022cab8a5326574c9e8102777e9346a1911e04a1a

lol without a fee Grin

good luck waiting those 3 hours

Whatever ...
I sent the rest and hope I'll get my BTC till xmas.

Crap - I didn't see that... Undecided

Not sure why my fee got reset in my bitcoin client. I'll fix it and send you the rest asap...

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Quote from: sairon on August 27, 2013, 04:45:44 PM

Quote from: Joe_Bauers on August 27, 2013, 04:37:28 PM

Awesome thanks! Just sent 1 BTC

Status: 0/unconfirmed, has not been successfully broadcast yet
Date: 8/27/13 **:33
To: 1AM4UYBjY6VyxD9oTgi8xCGB6VfQN3dcEe
Debit: -1.00 BTC
Net amount: -1.00 BTC
Transaction ID: 5fd69325ea51abcddc76ea9022cab8a5326574c9e8102777e9346a1911e04a1a

lol without a fee Grin

good luck waiting those 3 hours

Whatever ...
I sent the rest and hope I'll get my BTC till xmas.

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Quote from: Joe_Bauers on August 27, 2013, 04:37:28 PM

Awesome thanks! Just sent 1 BTC

Status: 0/unconfirmed, has not been successfully broadcast yet
Date: 8/27/13 **:33
To: 1AM4UYBjY6VyxD9oTgi8xCGB6VfQN3dcEe
Debit: -1.00 BTC
Net amount: -1.00 BTC
Transaction ID: 5fd69325ea51abcddc76ea9022cab8a5326574c9e8102777e9346a1911e04a1a

lol without a fee Grin

good luck waiting those 3 hours

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Status: 6 confirmations
Date: 8/27/13 **:28
From: unknown
To: YLoyZvVK1ckViN91wfU3xpFADjBAb7rHyZ (own address, label: ***)
Credit: 19998.90 YAC
Net amount: +19998.90 YAC
Transaction ID: 723087917bf7e0b92b769d1b3d1bed4f3061ea4730a8fc292a914b219203e4af

Awesome thanks! Just sent 1 BTC

Status: 0/unconfirmed, has not been successfully broadcast yet
Date: 8/27/13 **:33
To: 1AM4UYBjY6VyxD9oTgi8xCGB6VfQN3dcEe
Debit: -1.00 BTC
Net amount: -1.00 BTC
Transaction ID: 5fd69325ea51abcddc76ea9022cab8a5326574c9e8102777e9346a1911e04a1a

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